Some Rural Virginia Democrats Not On Board With Gov. Northam’s Gun-Grabbing Plans

Ralph Northam

Gov. Ralph Northam (AP Photo/Steve Helber, File)

Virginia Governor Ralph “Blackface” Northam suffered another defeat Monday. Lost among news of the Democrats’ disastrous Iowa Caucus fiasco, Old Dominion lawmakers blocked another of Northam’s gun control proposals.

Northam wanted to make it a felony for gun owners to allow their minor kids access to firearms for self-defense or other lawful purposes. Or even have a loaded firearm present for defense of the home.

Remarkably, or perhaps not so much, two Democrats voted against the measure, killing it in a Senate committee.

From FoxNews:

Virginia lawmakers on Monday rejected a gun control bill proposed by Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam, as the state continues to become the battleground in the nation’s gun debate.

The Senate Judiciary Committee voted against Northam‘s bill that would make it a felony to “recklessly leave a loaded, unsecured firearm” in a way that endangers a minor.

“This bill will keep children safe from loaded, unsecured firearms. Like Gov. Northam’s other commonsense gun safety measures, it is something that everyone — including responsible gun owners — should support,” said Northam’s spokeswoman, Alena Yarmosky…

I wrote a couple of months ago that if Virginia follows the Illinois model of governance, some rural Democrats there may actually support gun rights not only in words, but in votes as well. This, at least here in the Land of Lincoln, has often been the only thing stopping the passage of draconian gun control measures.

While plenty of people think that all Democrats hate gun rights, there are exceptions.

From VIRGINIA: All Hope Is Not Lost

Watching from afar as the radical wing of Virginia’s Democrat party tries to put the screws to gun owners, I can’t help but compare Virginia with Illinois. And if what we’ve learned here in Illinois remains even partially valid for the Old Dominion, all hope is not lost for gun owners there…

Meanwhile, other Democrats vigorously support gun rights – proudly and publicly.  They generally hail from rural parts of the state and recognize that their political lives would soon end if they voted or sounded like Chuck Schumer on guns.

Admittedly, Dems’ support for the right to keep and bear arms might not run nearly as deep or wide as that of gun aficionados like most of TTAG’s readers.  However, these pols’ desire not to lose the next election surely does run plenty wide and deep.  No matter if they cherish the gun culture as much as we do or not.

Virginia law enforcement for gun rights

Guns Save Life image by Dale Lock

No doubt the the size of the rally on Monday, January 20th made an impression on those rural Virginia Democrats. Frankly, it likely made some Dems who represent more conservative-leaning districts in other states across America sit up and take notice.  Obviously American gun owners have become increasingly awake, active and emboldened to take action.

In the sic semper tyrannis state, Governor Northam’s signature piece of gun-grabbing legislation seems in serious trouble as well. Forget about Blackface Ralphie’s dreams of confiscation, even a straight-up gun ban seems less than certain.

Again, from the same Fox News story:

Another measure that would ban so-called assault weapons like AR-15 rifles is also in danger of falling short. Some of Northam’s gun control measures have passed in the state’s Democratic-controlled General Assembly and lawmakers will hash out the differences between both chambers in the coming weeks.

Some of the bills include limiting handgun purchases to once a month; universal background checks on gun purchases; and a red flag bill that would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from anyone deemed to be dangerous to themselves or others.

Getting controversial bills through House and Senate committees is generally considered easier than getting them through the entire legislative bodies. If gun control advocates can’t even muscle all their bills through Virginia Senate committees, how will they manage tougher votes in the entire Senate?

Virginia’s gun owners along with local groups like the Philip Van Cleave’s Virginia Citizens Defense League – and the NRA-ILA – continue to do great work reminding vulnerable Democrats that voting against gun rights will come with consequences… at the next election.

That reminder to vulnerable pols, repeated over and over again from a host of messengers, remains the main thing keeping gun rights intact under Ralph Northam and his merry band of would-be tyrant allies.

comments

  1. avatar dave in Houston says:

    the miserable governor has already said he is supporting infanticide and therefore in his heart he is a murderer. All you need to know about the bastard who will try to unconstitutionally confiscate your guns. The Marxist needs to be removed from office…..ASAP

    1. avatar gene says:

      Is there a consensus about this?

      https://i.imgflip.com/3ofgxt.jpg

    2. avatar Hans says:

      Plus one, Dave! There is nothing reasonable about
      any of the Gov’s legislation. He is a sick gun hater
      and needs to go to the ER.

  2. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

    It’s blowing up in their face. Like the impeachment. And the Human Paper Shredder actions. This is a surprise?

    1. avatar Justsomeguy says:

      The bills that have failed, failed in senate committees. They or similar bills are passing in the whole house. They will be sent to the senate to be reconciled. I think the senate needs to have three democrats vote against these bills along with all of the republicans. I’m not betting on our chances, but we do have a chance.

  3. avatar Chicken Wing says:

    I hear he sings a version of “Mammy” called “Ralphy” for friends and family Al Jolson style. Good Democratic values.

  4. avatar Thixotropic says:

    Guess Daddy Bloombucks will just have to ante-up again.

    1. avatar Hannibal and the Elephants says:

      Latest news has it that Demoncraps at risk of losing their seat nationally are suddenly, “out of nowhere” breaking records on fundraising (just look it up on MSN). I guess the Grinch is giving out late Christmas presents.
      https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-iefE57dnUvU/UPMkVBfy0CI/AAAAAAAAPqU/JuNLHF9ACl0/s1600/look.alike+resize.jpg

      1. avatar Geoff "I'm getting too old for this shit" PR says:

        Especially after the last election, money spent on ads doesn’t really translate into votes any more.

        Hillary dumped hundreds of millions in ads ‘educating’ voters as to how horrible Trump was, and he still won.

        If they try that same tactic again, we have a solid shot at re-election…

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          If we lose things get pretty scary pretty quick. Check out “The New Way Forward Act” with 40+co-sponsors in the House. No one can say with a straight face that this Bill isn’t batshit insane.

          If that gets any publicity and the Dems don’t get completely routed, well fuck, this country isn’t done at that point, it was done years ago.

  5. avatar Sam Hill says:

    Someone said it on here before. I’m sorry I don’t remember who it was I should be giving credit to, however, I liked it and I think it should be said again about both states, Il., and Va. Citizens vote with your feet. Leave those brainless politicians to witlher and die because they have no tax base. I’ll add this part as my own. Drop your drawers at the state line and tell them that stays to kiss your ass goodby. If you love the Constitution as it’s written you are welcome here in Georgia.

    1. avatar Dude says:

      There is actually one county that’s trying to legally leave and join West Virginia.

    2. avatar Justin says:

      And that would accomplish almost nothing here in northern VA. Almost our entire economy is based on federal spending. I doubt the alphabet agencies are going to close up shop if some of their workforce moves away. Honestly if the federal government actually started spending responsibly a lot of NOVA would be unemployed.

      1. avatar Dude says:

        “I doubt the alphabet agencies are going to close up shop if some of their workforce moves away.”

        Justin, there’s a proposal to spread those agencies out into flyover country, but the swamp will fight it, and the swamp always wins.

    3. avatar Kenneth Phillips says:

      Make sure you make them disinfect there lips before you let kiss your but.
      If you are like me, you have enough nasty gems in your ass already.

  6. avatar T says:

    To TTAG,

    Comments are not posting. How about telling us what is preventing them from posting.

    1. avatar Hans says:

      Mr T, more than likely a kink in the software.

    2. avatar I Haz A Question says:

      Dan said something a few weeks ago about WordPress filters not tweaked properly. But some of my comments still don’t get posted, so the problem’s not fixed yet.

    3. avatar MarkPA says:

      They have a bug. They acknowledged this in an e-mail exchange with me. Comments are going into a trash folder for some as-yet unidentified reason.

      I sent an e-mail complaining and explaining that there is nothing in my comments that is inflammatory. Tried reposting to no avail. TTAG responded that they found my comments and then posted them. Have had several follow-up exchanges but no notification – yet – that the bug has been found and exterminated.

      Doesn’t seem to be censorship – at least not as far as I have seen.

  7. avatar Timothy Toroian says:

    Has this hypocritical POS discussed any specific legislation against gangs or any other organized criminal activity or just against his constituents? Sort of like Stalin did against members he THOUGHT were against him?

    1. avatar Annoyed in VA says:

      There actually were something like 8 bills proposed that made sentences harsher for gun crime. Increased pentalties, longer sentences, etc. for people who actually commit crime… EVERY ONE was shot down in committee… can’t be mean to the criminals I guess…..

      1. avatar Matt says:

        Maryland is proposing to make violent crimes punishable with harsher sentences. Dem lawmakers of course think that is WAYYYY too harsh. Violent criminals need more of a second chance. Yet their proposed universal background check law would impose up to a $10,000 fine and a 5 year prison sentence if I sold a shotgun to my neighbor and we didn’t have an FFL facilitate it (which they CAN’T “facilitate”. Of course when presented with that, dem lawmakers waved it off as just technicalities).

        The current punishment if I STOLE a gun is up to a $500 fine and up to 6-months in prison.

        “what? No, I didn’t sell the gun to my neighbor. He musta stole when I left it leaning against my garage for a few minutes. Sorry, didn’t notice it was gone”.

  8. avatar JP Ruiz says:

    The State Preemption Laws and AWB are the biggest issues for the 2A in Virginia right now.

  9. avatar Curmudgeon says:

    Wow. In an election year politicians are distancing themselves from an unpopular opinion?!! I’m trying to remember where and when I may have heard this before. It’s almost like it’s a RUSE.

  10. avatar M1Lou says:

    I think tomorrow is one of the last days to propose laws. Hopefully we get a good turnout at any committees tomorrow. They need to see people. Wish I could go, but by the time I get off work and drive down, it would be too late. I guess that is something to do when I retire. Raise hell at committees and legislators offices until they relent and stop voting for stupid shit. That’s what some guys were telling me about an exotic pet law they wanted to pass here in VA. They bugged the sponsor so much she didn’t want to support it anymore.

  11. avatar Cadeyrn says:

    I’ve said all along there is literally nothing which can be done to change the outcome of Northam’s pre-determined course of action. They don’t care about phone calls. They didn’t care about, depending on who is counting, between 20,000 and 50,000 peaceful protestors. They don’t care about the Constitution, your rights or anything else.

    This is the face of authoritarianism. This is what will happen nationwide if Bloomberg and the Democrats win in November, 2020.

    The only way to prevent it is to support only politicians who have a demonstrated record of protecting the Constitution and Second Amendment rights in every federal, state, and local election. The only way – THE ONLY WAY – the Democrats will be deterred is if they are driven out by a red wave washing them clean out of office nationwide.

    Anything less and they will claim they have a mandate to do whatever they please which will include making gun ownership a felony, arrests, confiscations and so on. They’ve been perfectly clear about that and we’ve had our only warning.

    Start networking now. Make sure your friends and their friends have calendared election day. Explore whether there are supporters at your job, your church, your kids’ sporting events, wherever you go and whatever you do. We must all hang together or we will surely hang separately.

    1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

      270 days to go to Election Day. I literally have a countdown calendar next to me. 🙂

    2. avatar MarkPA says:

      If we do NOT vote there is nothing to be done; apart from politics by other means.
      We do not vote. We do not vote our rights. That’s our problem nationwide.
      What will it take for us to get-out-the-vote? Will Bloomberg getting the nomination inspire us?

      In the meantime, we have to hold our noses and close our eyes and vote for RINOs in the general election while looking for real-Republicans for primaries.

      If we can’t get real-Republicans nominated in primaries (and that’s hard to achieve) then the holding action is to preserve a seat in GOP hands to prevent that seat from falling into Democrat hands.

      Much of the work in legislatures happens in committee and in the leadership. One member of a committee makes the difference between a bill getting to the floor or not. One member of the leadership of the party in control can make the difference between a bill on the floor being “whipped” into passage/defeat.

      Power in our system of government rests in the hands of:
      1. a singular executive (president, governor)
      2. a vote or two on a supreme court
      3. a handful of leaders in the two chambers of the legislative branch

      I don’t like it; but that’s the way it works for the time being. Unfortunately, I have to hold my nose and close my eyes to vote for Toomey and FitzPatrick. I hate it with passion. But, it’s better than handing control of both the Senate and House to the Democrats.

      If we can’t get pro-gun candidates nominated in the primaries we have to vote for RINOs.

  12. avatar Rich says:

    Marxists and islamists who infect our government plus the media prostitutes who protect them will gleefully lie, falsify, fabricate, slander, libel, deceive, delude, bribe, and treasonably betray the free citizens of the United States into becoming an unarmed population. Unarmed populations have been treated as slaves and chattel since the dawn of history.
    Only dictators, tyrants, despots, totalitarians, and those who want to control and ultimately to enslave you support gun control.
    No matter what any politician or hard-left mainstream media tells you concerning the statist utopian fantasy of safety and security through further gun control: They are lying. If their lips are moving, they are lying about gun control. These despots truly hate America..
    These tyrants hate freedom, liberty, personal responsibility, and private property. But the reality is that our citizens’ ownership of firearms serves as a concrete deterrent against despotism. They are demanding to hold the absolute power of life and death over you and your family.
    Ask the six million J ews, and the other five million murdered martyrs who perished in the N azi death camps, how being disarmed by a powerful tyranny ended any chances of fighting back. Ask the murdered martyrs of the Warsaw Ghetto about gun control.
    Their single agenda is to control you after you are disarmed. When the people who want to control you hold the absolute power of life and death over your family, you have been enslaved.
    American Thinker

  13. avatar million says:

    that got the bill to repeal state preemption for possession, carrying, etc through committee. now Virginia’s counties will become may-issue and no open-carry just like California. that’s really all they needed. the rest is just icing on the cake.

  14. avatar RedFlagRising says:

    If 7 rds. of .45 hardball were enough for Steven Seagal, its enough for you.

    1. avatar Complete Disapproval says:

      RedFlagRising: Who asked you???

    2. avatar Broke_It says:

      Segal?!? That fat fuck can’t even roundhouse without a cut scene. I’ll keep my fistful of bullets if he’s gonna be the standard.

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