Dayton Shooter: Antifa’s First Mass Murderer

Dayton Antifa murder mass shooting

(AP Photo/John Minchillo)

Iowahawk blogger David Burge once famously tweeted that “Journalism is about covering important stories. With a pillow, until they stop moving.” At least where the stories don’t support the mainstream media’s narrative or Democrats and their policies. Such is the case with Antifa’s first mass murderer, Dayton shooter Connor Betts.

We all can’t grow up to be smart, famous and well-liked. Losers like Betts had none of the above going for him. He claimed to be God in one tweet and hailed Satan in another. His band released misogynistic songs that celebrated raping and killing women.

He also promoted gun control repeatedly. He wrote, “This is America: Guns on every corner, guns in every house, no freedom but that to kill.” And he criticized Rob Portman for failing to support gun control after Parkland, Florida.

From Heavy.com:

On Feb. 14, 2018, he tweeted this at (Ohio) Sen. Rob Portman: “@robportman hey rob. How much did they pay you to look the other way? 17 kids are dead. If not now, when?”

He was also a big fan of socialism and saw himself as a guardian of the radical group Antifa. And he wrote of his desire to “Kill every fascist.”

Betts brought his weapon to an Antifa counter-protest of a KKK rally in Dayton back in May. You probably didn’t see that on the CNN or the CBS Evening News.

From The Dayton Daily News:

The man who killed nine people in Dayton’s Oregon District was seen carrying a gun and protesting against the Ku Klux Klan at a rally downtown in May.

Connor Betts, 24, was shot and killed by Dayton police during the Sunday morning rampage. Neither the police nor the FBI have identified a motive for the attack, though the federal authorities said Tuesday he “was exploring violent ideologies” before the shooting…

The May 25 rally attracted about 500 to 600 counter-protesters who opposed the nine Klansman who came from Indiana and protested in Courthouse Square. The counter-protest group was fenced 0ff away from the Klansman and several people in the crowd were seen carrying firearms.

Hasan Karim, who knew Betts and grew up in Bellbrook in the same high school class, was in the crowd accompanying freelance journalists and was taking pictures of the event. Karim bumped into someone in the crowd and the man told him ‘You don’t know me.’ The two said hello to each other and Karim recognized Betts by his voice, body and mannerisms in their brief interaction.

Betts wore a bandanna covering part of his face and sunglasses. He carried a gun which appeared to be similar in style to the one used in Sunday’s shooting. He did not appear to be part of any group that was in the protest crowd.

“Neither the police nor the FBI have identified a motive for the attack…”  Sounds a lot like those authorities who can’t fathom a motive for radicalized Muslims killing people while screaming Allahu Akbar.

We’ve covered Antifa’s increasing efforts to tool up open-carry style, especially at their rallies. They have said they want to start a civil war and are forming a “Red Army” to fight in one.

What’s more, they’ve already proved themselves willing to use their guns against police. Recall the Antifa loser killed by police after he brought a gun and a backpack full of ammo to his kid’s school.  Frankly, police in Eugene might have actually stopped the first Antifa would-be mass murderer that day.

And (try not to laugh), they are boning up on their fighting skills too.

Yes, they provide much entertainment.

At the same time, don’t underestimate Antifa’s potential for murder and mayhem. One of life’s losers, Betts proved that prudent people should treat Antifa and its members as a potentially lethal threat. And to prepare to act accordingly to defend themselves and their families.

Are you ready?

comments

  1. avatar BusyBeef says:

    If he was targeting fascists why didn’t he shoot at fascists instead of random people?
    Sounds less like an antifa member and more like a deranged, confused person who just happened to latch onto an ideology he heard about on the internet.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      It was a popular cop / vet bar.

      1. avatar B-Rad says:

        No, it’s not.

        1. avatar Miner49er says:

          So Sergei just claimed it was a cop/vet bar without any facts?

          So he was just lying to support his agenda?

          Sad.

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          Says the commie who never lets a single truth come out of his mouth… Apparently to xer, somebody who rants about how the brown people are sucking up all the socialist freebies he wants for himself is “right wing”…

      2. avatar Ogre says:

        “If he was targeting fascists why didn’t he shoot at fascists instead of random people?”

        He was probably shooting whoever his “voices” told him to shoot.

    2. avatar pwrserge says:

      Here’s a comedic summary of what the modern left is.

      https://youtu.be/2AhGYo9TExU

      1. avatar John in Ohio says:

        I haven’t watch that before… hilarious and accurate. Thanks!

      2. avatar D Dunbar says:

        Oh man that punch a nazi video is peaches! Freaking brilliant. Thanks for that!

      3. avatar Minnie Driver says:

        Wow you know some person will believe this ridiculous story even though the writing is complete conspiracy theory bs and badly written at that.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Oh, you’re adorable. Tell me more about how ANTIFA aren’t violent socialists.

    3. avatar kevin says:

      If he was targeting fascists why didn’t he . . . just stay home and vote?

    4. avatar B.D. says:

      “…deranged, confused person who just happened to latch onto an ideology he heard about on the internet…”

      That is literally antifa in a nutshell.

    5. avatar LifeSavor says:

      Anyone following the reports/theories that both Dayton and El Paso killings were planned, mind-controlled events coordinated by the Deep State players to accelerate gun control?

      1. avatar Hugh Glass says:

        No.

      2. avatar No One Special says:

        I think it’s a little deeper than that but yes I believe there are people who believe in their extremist thinking so deeply that they will do almost anything to see it come to fruition. Look at terrorists for the most glaring example. The real problem is no amount banning of anything is going to put a stop to it. The only thing that will stop this kind of action is being prepared and vigilant to repel borders anytime or place the beast rears its ugly head.

      3. avatar drunkEODguy says:

        It’s not a conspiracy guy, that damn loser in NZ said in his manifesto HE WANTED TO DEMONIZE GUN OWNERSHIP IN AMERICA AND ELSEWHERE. Specifically, he wanted to make it an issue in America because he believed it would be a flash-point which would cause widespread civil unrest.

    6. avatar Ragnarredbeard says:

      Antifa doesn’t target fascists. They *are* fascists.

      1. avatar James says:

        Incorrect.

        1. avatar Minnie Driver says:

          Wow you know some person will believe this ridiculous story even though the writing is complete conspiracy theory bs

    7. avatar Chief Censor says:

      It appears he wanted gun control and he was going to make that happen by attacking black people in mass. He was saying he couldn’t wait for dumb people to finally accept socialism and gun control. He was researching mass shootings and planning some kind of attack. He wanted to fight the right but decided to shoot innocent people — the people he claimed he wanted to help — after the shooting in El Paso was done by a white identitarian.

      Looks like a crime of opportunity to give gun grabbers more emotional outrage to get gun control passed. Very similar to the Mandalay Bay shooting that was done right before the election. He bought an arm brace, an AR pistol, 100 round mags, body armor, etc.

      It appears to be a psychological operation to get people to blame the shooting on white identitarianism. He was studying psychology… I think people refer to that as a “false flag.” An attack that is intended to appear to be done by a certain group but was actually done by another. Which is why I think it was a crime of opportunity in terms of timing. He did literally run into a group of cops before he could get to his target location, which is an indicator that he wasn’t totally prepared for this specific attack. He did spend time in the bar hours before deciding if it was “go time,” he knew who he was about to attack.

      A lot of people are not paying attention to these terror attacks in regards to their motivation. Actually the FBI is now considering their identity based politics to be domestic terrorism so they can legally spy on these types of people. If you read the posts of these mass murderers you will see they all want gun control because it could start a war between the factions, which will allow them to bring forth their wanted type of political system. These young men believe there will be a civil war if they continue to do these terror attacks and gun control passes because of it. They are trying to spark a revolt against the current corporate political system.

      The FBI now considers people that think there is a deep state, one world globalist government, Q Anon, pedophile rings, etc, are potential domestic terrorists or dangerously mentally ill. Now they have “fusion cells” investigating these people. Trump wants the FBI to work with tech corporations to spy on these people and put them in a mental institution after they take their guns with rapid due process.

      Once red flag laws are passed in all the states you won’t be able to speak freely because if you do you could come off as a domestic terrorist or a crazy person. You will have to behave like people do on Youtube: self censor your speech to be politically correct and don’t talk about taboo subjects.

      1. avatar lif says:

        Hey, Chief Censor,

        I think you have a lot of this correctly. Strongly disagree on part about Trump, but clearly you are seeing beyond the headlines. So, are these and other killers connected by a common group or agency? CIA/NSA black hat, deep-staters roiling up the public to remove our firearms? Don’t know, but after 911 I don’t rule-out theories just because they sound conspiratorial.

        1. avatar Chief Censor says:

          They belong to online groups that do organized political action in the streets. There are rich business men that fund some of those actions and groups from time to time. I can’t say for certain that the FBI has infiltrated them like they did the Black Panthers. I know that the FBI tried to get some of them to attack each other in sting operations. I am aware the FBI lurks on Youtube, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook and message boards to monitor people they believe are going to commit crimes.

          You have to go watch Trump’s gun control press conference and his most recent comments. What I said is true. It is what it is.

          There is also a 15 page FBI memo that was posted on the internet that goes into detail about “conspiracy theories” and identitarianism having the potential to create future domestic terrorism and being the motivation for previous terrorism.

      2. avatar barnbwt says:

        It’s a total coincidence that a guy exhorting plain & simple socialism & decrying globalist capitalism very clearly in his ‘manifesto’ attacked ‘The Biggest Wal Mart There Is’ to punctuate his failed existence, simply because he also claimed to be racist. Nothing to read into there.

        I notice a very strong move to characterize the guy as ‘right wing’ when he is as lefty as they come, simply because he was racist. As if leftists can’t be racists, and that it’s an identifying feature of the opposite ideology.

        1. avatar Chief Censor says:

          The man that attacked El Paso is a right wing indentitarian conservative seeking to save Western culture from invasion. That’s today’s politics. Someone like him is now classified as right wing. In the past this guy would have been considered a leftist Democrat, but the politics has changed.

          The Democrats are currently sounding more like Republicans and the Republicans are sounding more like Democrats. The Democrats used to be less aggressive in their leftism until the Republican party displaced them from that position, thereby they moved further left. As Democrats move further left they drag Republicans with them. Why? Because Republicans want to compete with the Democrats. If Republicans want to win elections they have to take leftist positions. Why? Because America’s youth has shifted toward the left after spending their entire lives surrounded by leftists in school and entertainment.

          Do you remember the Democrats being against open boarders not that long ago? Do you remember when they were against corporations controlling the internet? Do you remember how the Democrats were the party of segregation and anti diversity? Now the Democrats have switched their positions and Republicans are now adopting those positions.

          Go watch videos of like 10-20 years ago to see how much the parties have flipped around on certain positions. It’s all to win elections and move the country further left. Why? Because it benefits the corporations, the bankers and the politicians. You can say the elites work together to give the people an optical illusion of choice.

        2. avatar Hannibal and the Elephants says:

          @Chief Censor
          I am not that old, yet clearly, within my lifetime, remember the democrats as opposed to civil rights, against healthcare benefits and lamenting the end slavery (amongst other atrocities). But, along with the Fudds in either political camp, democrats have always been anti 2A, because, “God forbid they (insert minority group of choice here) got their grubby hands on firearms” and threatened our sacred hierarchy.

        3. avatar Excedrine says:

          @Chief Censor — The man that attacked El Paso is a left wing identitarian liberal socialist seeking to save “his” race from an “invasion” enabled by DemoKKKrats since the 1960s. So, those are actually today’s politics, and someone like him could only be incorrectly classified as “right” wing. No, he’s still rightly and correctly considered a leftist DemoKKKrat by anyone with even a sliver of insight into the political history of these United States.

          The core of the DemoKKKrat’s base has actually moved ever more leftward, leaving the moderates either in the center or actually forcing them to join more moderate conservatives because of the insanity of their rhetoric.

          https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/pew-research-center-study-shows-that-democrats-have-shifted-to-the-extreme-left/

          Meanwhile, Republicans have only shifted slightly more rightward. The DemoKKKrats aren’t really dragging Republicans anywhere.

          The DemoKKKrats are still the party of segregation and anti-diversity, too. They’ve just switched targets, and using the minorities they’ve managed to keep on their financial and ideological plantations to attack their new enemy: anyone white, straight, theistic, and to the right of Stalin. (Oh, and don’t forget to include anyone and everyone not meeting those criteria that don’t agree with the neo-Marxist DemoKKKrat platform, too.)

      3. avatar Southern Cross says:

        I did say several days ago the Dayton shooter was a registered Democrat and was fighting for gun control. And this was reported in Progressive Australian news.

    8. avatar Brewski says:

      “more like a deranged, confused person who just happened to latch onto an ideology he heard about on the internet.”

      This describes every Antifa member.

    9. avatar Mork says:

      I see you’re very uninformed about ANTIFA. To them, anyone who’s not a far-left extremist is “a fascist”. Hence why they’ve repeatedly assaulted people for “having a Nazi haircut” just because they don’t like a popular hair style.

    10. avatar Alec says:

      That’s literally what antifa is.

  2. avatar pwrserge says:

    Why is it that every time some nutjob goes off of the rails, he always turns out to be some brand of socialist?

    1. avatar Leroy Jenkins says:

      Or a conservative, or a virgin, or a young white male. Crazy acts…crazy, especially dumb young crazy.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Name one US conservative mass shooter in the past decade… I’ll wait.

        1. avatar 41mag says:

          Still waiting…

        2. avatar Southern Cross says:

          The average ratio of leftists (ie Democrat affiliated) mass shooters to right wing mass shooters is 7:3. There’s still some room in there.

        3. avatar pwrserge says:

          Again… name ONE conservative “mass shooter”… I’d bet you can’t dig up anybody who is not some flavor of socialist.

        4. avatar Ansel Hazen says:

          Tick Tock Leroy

        5. avatar Calvin Candie says:

          In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
          In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
          In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
          In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
          In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
          In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
          In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
          In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
          In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria.
          In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
          In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
          In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
          In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
          In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
          In 2009, a left wing radical Islamic sympathizer Major Nidal Hasan fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others on Fort Hood, near Killeen, Texas. The shooting produced more casualties than any other on an American military base.
          In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in the head thus wounding her for life.
          In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
          In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
          In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school.
          In Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.
          In 2016 a registered Muslim Democrat murdered 49 people in an Orlando night club.
          One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does nothing.
          Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.
          Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in these shootings and murders.

    2. avatar Pg2 says:

      Please, you’re embarassing yourself.

      1. avatar Geoff "Guns. Lots of guns." PR says:

        You certainly have loads of experience in that area… 😉

    3. avatar Miner49er says:

      Do you really believe that all the mass murderers were some brand of socialist? What brand of socialism did Adam Lanza or Dylan Roof follow? What brand of socialism did Timothy McVeigh follow?

      We do know the El Paso shooter posted a manifesto where he clearly adopted Donald Trump’s language about Hispanic invasion and used that as the basis for his mass murder.

      Sergei, you have read the manifesto from the shooter in Dayton? I hadn’t seen one posted giving any reason at all for his shooting, would you please give me the citation for his manifesto where he claims he did the mass murder because of socialism?

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Um… the El Paso shooter was ranting about being pro-UBI and pro-eco-terrorism. What part of that DOESN’T sound socialist?

        A national socialist is still a socialist.

      2. avatar Chris T in KY says:

        Miner49er
        In case you forgot Timothy McVeigh was an avowed atheist. Just like the other recent Mass shooters.

        1. avatar Chief Censor says:

          Most Americans do not have a God. Majority of young people do not like religion.

        2. avatar Will says:

          But he had a specific target, fbi. The rest was collateral damage. The federal govt knew since the 60’s that fed buildings were targets. They told us not to wear uniforms if we went to one. Not to hang around after our business was done. Why would you put a day care center in a building you knew was a possible target for terrorist both international and domestic.

      3. avatar barnbwt says:

        McVeigh is the last one you could make the argument convincingly on. Most of the mass shooters are wildly delusional “nutbars” like the Giffords-shooter or the guy who shot up Aurora thinking he was The Joker. The subset that do have coherent political motivations are almost universally leftist; accelerationists seeking to destabilize US society so that their pet group could possibly rise to the top. It’s not a political party thing, and there’s not really a ‘right wing*’ version of accelerationism, so it’s something of a self-describing criteria. Crazy people willing to kill innocents for political reasons, almost by definition must hold beliefs of totalitarian domination in order to quell some hated enemy; which is to say, leftism.

        *If socialism is left wing (and it is) then being a racist socialist does not make someone right wing. We all know racists occupy the full breadth of the political spectrum, so it’s dishonest to use it as a sorting criteria here. The result, is that rather than the ‘horseshoe chart’ of politics (originally dreamed up by academic communists to try & distance their ideology from fascists after WWII, after Stalin’s propagandists dreamed up the whole left/right paradigm to explain their sudden break from their erstwhile German allies) you have a spectrum of people that value and defend individual liberty against an overbearing state so individuals can work toward their own desires within a basic protective framework of law, and people who believe in using an overbearing state to force all of society into their own personal vision of Utopia. I shouldn’t have to say which is rational and which is a figment of narcissistic mental illness, but the first is the rational one.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          But “muh’ Nazis were Rit Wing” REEEEE….

        2. avatar John Bryan says:

          Well, and succinctly, said!

        3. avatar Southern Cross says:

          The level of racism, sexism, homophobia, and anti-Semitism in the former Soviet Union was far more than most realized. And old habits die hard as they are still common today.

    4. avatar Chief Censor says:

      People who support statism support violence. Without the use of violence you can’t have the state.

      Leftists/statists must use violence to create and maintain their state. The statists are pro gun for themselves and are anti gun for the people. They believe only the state should have the means of violence/force, only they are sanctioned to enforce the law, anyone else attempting to use force is considered a vigilante criminal.

      http://anthropos-lab.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Weber-Politics-as-a-Vocation.pdf

  3. avatar No One Special says:

    If more choose to follow in the Ohio shooter’s footsteps then the sooner his followers meet the same fate as he did the better for everyone. I personally don’t care if they are put down by police or an innocent bystander that’s armed. Just start stacking them up like firewood so the rest of us can go on with our lives peaceably.

    1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      No One Special,

      I am ready and able to stop such scumbags and protect myself and my family. I was at a beach at a state park recently with my family. I had a full-size semi-auto handgun chambered in .40 S&W with a full 15-round magazine and two more 15-round magazines on my belt.

      An out-of-state tourist noticed my armed status and made it a point to locate his family next to mine. Why? He knew that any spree killer who decided to target our location would not be very successful as long as I was there.

      1. avatar No One Special says:

        Personal safety IS personal responsibility! It’s past time that people start owning that. It’s painfully obvious that the consequences of not owning it are probably only going to get worse.

        1. avatar Ansel Hazen says:

          And what we need now is Trump to actually have the balls to say just that.

      2. avatar Huntmaster says:

        How do you know he didn’t locate there because he knew they’d take you out first giving him time to get away?

        1. avatar Someone says:

          That doesn’t make any sense.
          1. When did that ever happen? These bitches are not seeking a shootout, they prefer to be unopposed. It’s much more likely the wannabe murderer would leave and look for ‘fish in a barrel’ gun free zone. When they meet an armed opposition, usually they give up or suicide.
          2. Wouldn’t the people next to the one taken out first be next in line?

  4. avatar ROBERT Powell says:

    when is the country going to realize that it is not the guns, it is the democrats that need to be HEAVILY RESTRICTED AND LISCENSED. the koolaid that the dem’s have ben drinking is rotting the very small brain that they were born with.

    1. avatar Southern Cross says:

      Their followers have been promised utopia and they want it all and they want it now.

      (The partial paraphrasing of a song was intentional.)

  5. avatar Rocketman says:

    Pwrserge, You got it down pat. How come when a hard core leftist murders a group of people they are never listed as a “leftist” by the socialist news media but as a “white supremacist” or a “radical conservative”. This crap needs to stop RFN.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      The hillarious part is that they still don’t understand that racial supremacy is a staple of the left wing.

      1. avatar UPS Driver says:

        #Antifa_So_White

        1. avatar jwm says:

          They have a very racist belief that the poor downtrodden poc’s can’t think or function without the benevolent whites to lead them by the hand. bernie, hillary, biden, etc. and their mostly white antifa fascists troopers.

        2. avatar Chief Censor says:

          You can’t talk race or religion on TTAG if you don’t want to risk being banned. Be careful.

    2. avatar Auxwood_rebel says:

      Demonize the white people while making the colored people think they’re specifically being target by the white people. I don’t think its by accident. As for the guy in El Paso, his motives sound pretty similar to Margaret Sanger’s with a dash of bernie and AOC style climate motivated socialism.

      1. avatar Chief Censor says:

        A few months ago it was called the alt-right.

  6. avatar Aaron Walker says:

    Sure! Great! Sounds like a reason for Big Goverment to declare martial law.

  7. avatar DrewR55 says:

    Frankly, I am amazed that we haven’t yet seem any of these clowns making late night visits to the homes of those they disagree with and it is only a matter of time before this violence further escalates.

    Don’t doubt for a second that they want you dead. These good little commies think they can build a more perfect (socialist) union on the corpses of their ideological opponents.

    1. avatar David Deplorable says:

      If I recall, they already did at Boch’s house.

      1. avatar DrewR55 says:

        I was thinking more along the lines of them kicking in doors and murdering people. It is a favorite tactic of terrorists and ideologue extremists.

    2. avatar Dan W. says:

      Sam Hyde said it best.

      Do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny.

    3. avatar Ansel Hazen says:

      That may be coming, talk radio is full of stuff about a movie called “The Hunt”.

      Can’t think that I’d be the only one with fingers crossed it’s the match that lights the fire.

  8. avatar Your name here says:

    That one on the right definitely has some big Bun action going on😍😍😍

    1. avatar Manse Jolly says:

      The persons hand/fingers look mutated in the picture too.

  9. avatar CLarson says:

    Nothing is going to happen to these guys. Most of them are based in leftist strongholds where the local authorities treat them with kid gloves. Mainstream leftist pols and media activists are posting lists of names of their ideological enemies couched around incendiary rhetoric. That terror tactic only works because these squads are out there causing property damage and beating the shit out of people.

    1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      Sadly the Iron Curtain has come to America. Just as in Europe people behind the Iron Curtain were disarmed and at the mercy of the state.

      But those people in free states I think need to live up to the rhetoric. Carry a gun and kill these people if they act on their violent tendencies against you.

      The Atheist Left wants to kill. Because they have learned that they cannot talk people into voting their way. What will you do when a group of leftists surround your voting stations? Like the Black Panthers did holding nightsticks in the previous election.

      “But that would never happen here. That would never happen in America”

      I suggest everyone take formal training and get self-defense insurance. Because this coming political season there are some people that are going to certainly need it.

  10. avatar former water walker says:

    And the dead murderer reportedly was a Fauxcahontas(Warren) supporter…Trump & co. need to declare Antifa a terrorist group(as well as CAIR).

    1. avatar CWT says:

      Don’t forget antifas primary finacial backers , BAMN (ByAnyMeansNecessary).

      1. avatar Mad Max says:

        And maybe connect them to Soros and bust his ass for sponsoring terrorism.

  11. avatar FedUp says:

    Thanks, John, I made it until today without knowing that sack of crap’s name but you just ruined it for me.

    These mass murderers want to be famous, so why reward them by giving them the publicity they seek?

    1. avatar John in Ohio says:

      The left would like nothing more than their names be censored. That way, the leftist media could run with any number of lies and propaganda then who could dispute it? The name is important so that people can independently investigate their background. The left doesn’t care who does it because they want to disarm the people. Copycats are going to happen, named or not. The only thing not publishing the name can possibly do is give a massively effective free hand at pushing propaganda. Not naming the shooters would be the ultimate mask for the leftists.

      Feelings vs facts:
      Feeling – We don’t want to glorify these murders.
      Fact – If we don’t know who they are, we can’t know the truth.

  12. avatar Timothy Toroian says:

    Those red bandanas are a dangerous sign especially worn in that fashion. When they start playing revolutionary for real who ever says they are just demonstrating or exercising their 1st amendment rights should be imprisoned with them. They ARE demonstrating they have something bigger in mind. They do act like the communist and fascists of the 30s in the way they attempt to subdue and frighten people. The organization should be declared a domestic terrorist group. Then Soros can be in trouble for supporting them. If some are imprisoned be sure than others will take hostages and demand release of their comrades. Or fellow jugend.

    1. avatar John in Ohio says:

      They are also exercising their free speech rights.

      So, are you going to come imprison me? Good luck with that, Skippy.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Oh, that’s silly, you think commies have “rights”… “Rights” are for peopleses.

        1. avatar Q-punon says:

          “Whooop!, Whooop!” Thirty something, single, childless, man child alert! “Whoop! Whoop! Collision with middle age immanent!

    2. avatar Southern Cross says:

      At least it makes them easy to identify.

      Although ANTIFA have fired the first shots we still have to be patient and wait until they truly overplay their hand.

      Connor Betts may be ANTIFA’s Horst Wessel. Being martyred by the fascist lackey policem

  13. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    As I have said before on TTAG the most politically violent are the Socialist Progressive. They have assassinated US Presidents. They have tried to assassinate Republicans at a baseball field. These atheists do not believe in the individual. They believe in being subservient to the state.

    The best most powerful symbol of the individual in America is Firearms ownership. And that ownership is dictated by the individual choosing which firearm he chooses to own. Not what the state authorizes him to possess.

    An authorized list such as what they have in the state of California is not Liberty. A representative of the state took a weapon that law-abiding citizens of the State of California we’re not allowed to have and committed mass murder with it. His name was police officer Christopher Darden.

    1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      BTW
      There is no difference between the masked Klu Klux Klan and the masked Antifa. They both worked at the behest of the Democrat Party. They both attacked black and white people. And they both supported disarming the part of the civilian population that they didn’t like. But they did want weapons for themselves.

      Never forget it was a socialist Progressive President Obama who supplied military grade weapons to the civilian police forces across this country. While saying at the same time that law-abiding citizens of this country should not have such weaponry. And Ignoring the American Bill of Rights which protects the citizens right to possess such weapons.

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Commie “counter arguments” incoming…

        “Youza racis”
        “But muh’ Russia”
        “Drumf is Hitler”
        “Well… ACTUALLY”

        Let me know if I missed some.

        1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

          “You hate gay people”
          You forgot that one.

        2. avatar daveinwyo says:

          You forgot “I hate myself because I was born white”.

      2. avatar Chief Censor says:

        I think it was Bush that started the program to give military surplus gear to the cops and the program to arm Mexican cartels. Then there was NSA, FISA, DHS, TSA, ICE, etc.

        In some respects Obama simply carried on where Bush left off. He helped normalize identity politics to divide Americans. His administration made sure to allow under aged kids to cause problems, which some of them committed mass shootings. He further dumb down public education. Some of his rhetoric was exaggerated to the point that some black power types decided they needed to shoot cops.

        Before Bush America was so much more free. Luckily he didn’t get a chance to renew the “assault weapons ban” like he wanted to.

        1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

          From a historical perspective. The federal government has been giving military surplus equipment away for over 100 years now. Surplus Tommy Guns are now being sold by departments to pay for new equipment. But it was Obama who targeted the sending of military small arms to civilian cops.

          I know many Libertarians, Liberals, and the Left want to blame white christian republicans who have sex in the missionary position with the lights turned off, for all their problems.

          But the militarization of the civilian police force in the USA is the faulty of the Democrat controlled congress and Obama. During the “Peace Dividend” of the Clinton years when the democrats also controlled the congress and presidency, plenty of guns flowed to civilian cops.

          I will get you the Links.

        2. avatar No One Special says:

          I’m white, Christian, and Republican but I’m glad I don’t put such wild restrictions on myself. 😎

        3. avatar Miner49er says:

          “His administration made sure to allow under aged kids to cause problems, which some of them committed mass shootings.”

          Exactly what are you talking about here, can you provide a link?

        4. avatar Chris T in KY says:

          Yes the democrat Party is very comfortable with the level of violence in certain neighborhoods in Chiraq, Baltimore, Detroit, Atlanta, etc, etc. There was a time when LaPierre did speak the truth.

          “1999: Bill Clinton is encouraging criminals to commit crimes to build support for new gun laws. “By not prosecuting and enforcing the laws that are there — we’re talking about felons and possession of guns, violent juveniles, gang members in possession of guns, drug dealers in possession of guns — they’re making a decision to let the blood flow on the streets… and they’re getting people killed every day,” LaPierre said on Fox News’ Hannity & Colmes on November 15, 1999″

          The amazing thing about an atheist leftist is just how much faith they put in government control.
          It seems the only thing they care about is the freedom to have any kind of sex they want. Except when it involves the poor. Then the sexual activity of the poor must be controlled by the government.
          The Welfare Industrial Complex.

          You are not paranoid if the they are really out to get you and your guns.
          https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/01/two-decades-wayne-lapierre-saying-hyperbolic-things-about-guns/318915/

        5. avatar Chris T in KY says:

          No one special
          My wife and I have enjoyed ourselves at Sybaris many times before. It expands our unrestricted lifestyle.
          Not surprisingly the Left has a bigoted and close minded view of christian people. I don’t understand why. Christian reproduce like rabbits. And then the Left Complains about that too.

          https://www.sybaris.com/experience-sybaris/couples-pool-suites/

        6. avatar Chief Censor says:

          @Miner49er

          Obama had a policy to give money to areas that didn’t have a “school-to-prison pipeline” and lowered their crimes stats. He didn’t want kids to get in trouble with the police if they did something wrong/illegal. This allowed the Parkland gunmen to stay off the prohibited person’s list for guns. I think the Parkland report mentions this or the committee did.

          I heard Obama had a lot more mass shootings happen during his presidency than previous presidents did. It’s possible Trump can have more than Obama, but he is determined to take the guns first.

    2. avatar Dyspeptic Gunsmith says:

      Yup. You and I know the history, and you’re correct. This bit of leftist violence isn’t new.

      After all, Oswald was a commie. A for-real commie.

      I believe one of the reasons that so many Democrats trot out the Grassy Knoll nonsense is that they refuse to accept that their POTUS was killed by a commie.

      There is leftist violence in the US all the way back to the pre-WWI days.

      1. avatar 41mag says:

        The Dems also did the bombings in 72-73 IIRC. Thousands of bombings

  14. avatar Auxwood_rebel says:

    On one hand I think drugs (mostly marijuana) are part of what’s triggering these guys but on the upside the drugs are hopefully keeping them out of the military and the police academies.

    1. avatar Chris T in KY says:

      Be careful. You’ll make some of the Libertarians out there start crying.

      1. avatar tdiinva says:

        But weed makes you all into a peaceful and loving person. You also drive better and your term papers are the bestest.

        1. avatar No One Special says:

          This is reply to everyone on the NO MARIJUANA! campaign. There are a crazy amount of vets the use marijuana on a regular basis and they are not committing mass murder. My opinion is you have to be stupid in the first place. The drugs just make the stupidity worse. I for one have never used any illegal drug (street or any other) but I’m not going to begrudge someone that suffers with severe anxiety or chronic pain something that helps regardless of perceived or otherwise. I would struggle believing anything that the New York Post publishes no matter what it is.

        2. avatar tdiinva says:

          Medical marijuana products are the snake oil of the 21st Century. Now that we have a large enough sample size to measure the effects most of the claims are inconclusive at best. Medical marijuana has always been a stalking horse for the legalization for recreational use.

        3. avatar Auxwood_rebel says:

          I’m pretty anti weed but the new york post did that anti-assault weapon article the other day where they suggested muzzle velocity caps, so idk about their credibility…

        4. avatar pwrserge says:

          Yeah… funny how I fit that description and managed to deal with my issues without resorting to the abuse of opioids or mind altering illegal drugs. Booze and tobacco were good enough for my uncle after he came back from Afghanistan, they are good enough for me.

        5. avatar No One Special says:

          What’s more interesting is I definitely fit the example of vets with anxiety and chronic pain and I don’t need or take any of it. No drugs (pharmaceutical or illegal), no tobacco (been tobacco free for over 4 years now), and I might have a couple of beers or bourbons on a very limited basis. Like 2 or 3 months or more limited basis. There are other effective ways to manage such health problems. It just requires lifestyle changes that are better suited to better health.

    2. avatar Steven Lynch says:

      Bingo!! Growing up in the 60s and 70s and 80s, that is the first thing the cops did they would jerk their asses down to the police station and give them a drug test and 8 out of 10 were own something , except the University of Texas guy , I think he had a brain tumor, nowadays no way, someone some doctor somewhere would be accountable

    3. avatar Auxwood_rebel says:

      I’ve heard credible people give personal testimonies that weed, or weed based products, have helped with some severe illnesses where other pharmaceuticals weren’t helping, I’ve even had a doctor recommend cbd to me, but there’s a lot of studies showing modern strains of weed are make some folks wig out. Me personally I’m not going anywhere near the stuff until the feds the fda and the local laws get sorted out. Getting everyone hooked on weed would be an easy backdoor gun control. Sadly gotta wonder if it was between national legalized weed and a new assault weapons ban, which would get more voters to the poles?

  15. avatar CWT says:

    The Columbine murderers would have fit right in with antifa.

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      The whatever-the-hell-they-called-their-genders tranny couple that shot up the school in Colorado several months back would also certainly qualify.

  16. avatar skoon says:

    What about the antifa terrorist that tried to shoot up and fire bomb an ice facility? He would be the 2nd (attempted) mass shooter. Did he do something i dont know about that he is ignored by left and right?

    1. avatar Chief Censor says:

      The European man that attacked the ICE detention facility was attempting to free the people inside by starting fires that would require an evacuation. He intended to die in a shootout when police arrived. He wasn’t trying to murder the people being held in the facility, he wanted to kill the cops.

      1. avatar skoon says:

        yes i get that he wanted to kill police ice in particular. Tippical antifa terrorist. I was unaware he was european.

  17. avatar John in Ohio says:

    “I’m taking feelings over facts any time.” – Connor Betts

    Considering the parents, he was simply fruit of the tree.

    1. avatar Southern Cross says:

      That his sister and her boyfriend were among the first killed is something to ponder. The photos of him with his sister were creepy, as in creepy Joe level of creepy. Could he have had a thing for his sister and couldn’t take her being with another man?

  18. avatar tdiinva says:

    The title of first probably belongs to the Gilroy shooter. The FBI has found his target list which included churches, synogogues, government facilities and both major political parties. He sounds very much like an anarchist which places him squarely in the Antifa orbit.

  19. avatar L. Shamus McQuade says:

    Antifa with Weapons. I say bring it on. Then we will see what kind of a shot they are. Remember ANTIFA be careful for what you wish for, there are REAL meateaters lurking in the countryside who will take you down like the RABID mutt that you are

    1. avatar Southern Cross says:

      Most would only be set for street shooting and drive by distances. I doubt they could even see, much less hit, anything over 100m. Most likely 25-50.

    2. avatar Minnie Driver says:

      lol some people believe any propaganda conspiracy theory put in front of them. well only nut job alt righters

      1. avatar pwrserge says:

        Hi commie, there is no such thing as the “alt-right” as CNN commentator Richard Spencer mentioned, they are all socialists. Just a different brand of socialists from ANTIFA vermin.

        1. avatar Miner49er says:

          It is fascinating to read the comments here as desperate wackos attempt to re-define words and rewrite history.

          Surgi, do you mean this Richard Spencer, who actually invented the term alt right? And do you think he isn’t a member of the alt right?

          Fascinating.

          “Richard Bertrand Spencer (born 1978)[1] is an American neo-Nazi and white supremacist.[2] He is president of the National Policy Institute (NPI), a white supremacist think tank, as well as Washington Summit Publishers. Spencer rejects the labels white supremacist and neo-Nazi, considers himself a white nationalist, a white identitarian, and the equivalent of a “Zionist” for white people.[3][4][5][6] Spencer created the term “alt-right”, which he considers a movement based on “white identity”.[7][8][9] Spencer advocates white-European unity, a “peaceful ethnic cleansing” of nonwhites from America, and the creation of a “white racial empire,” which he believes would resemble the Roman Empire.”

          He, and others like him, are indeed the alt right, and they are clearly white supremacist. Why do you want to provide a smokescreen for bad actors like this, are you one of them attempting to conceal your beliefs?

          Who do you think you’re fooling by your blatant attempt to hide reality?

        2. avatar pwrserge says:

          Yes… calling the “alt-right” right wing because it’s in the name is just as retarded as calling North Korea Democratic because it’s in the name. Face it commie, you have far more in common with identitarian white nationalists than any sane person does. There is no “alt-right” it’s just a bunch of national socialists who want to hide the fact that the only difference between them and La Raza or any other racist socialist hate group is that they are pro-white people.

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