The text of Senator Dianne Feinstein’s assault rifle ban bill is now available on her website and, contra Nick’s expectations, it isn’t simply a copy-and-paste re-run of the failed Clinton era assault rifle ban language. It’s worse. Much worse.
How bad is it? In the first four pages, it bans the popular GLOCK 17 9mm pistol, a gun that’s commonly used for shooting sports and personal self defense by hundreds of thousands of Americans.
That’s right, one of the most reliable, commonly-used pistols in the US, from one of the most popular firearms manufacturers in the world is now on the chopping block.
But it’s not just the G17. The Beretta 92, the CZ75, and the HK VP70 would also be forbidden. Heck, even the Luger P08 would be out.
Why? Because among the many things the bill prohibits — from the “CZ Scorpion Pistol” [sic], which it somehow defines as an “AK” to the jihad it wages against barrel shrouds that keep people from injuring themselves — the senior Senator from California wants to ban any “semiautomatic versions of an automatic firearm.” (See page 4 of the bill.)
That means that if a manufacturer ever made a fully-automatic version of a semi-automatic pistol (i.e. the GLOCK 18, a select fire version of the G17), the semi-auto gun would be verboten. Feinstein’s bill, if passed, would classify these guns as a “semiautomatic assault weapons” and, therefore, outlaw them.
Let’s be clear here: this isn’t a serious bill. This isn’t intended to generate a conversation leading to an acceptable compromise. This is pure red meat for the anti-gun base, written by a legislative staff who view the Bill of Rights with utter contempt. And it laughs in the face of Supreme Court precedent concerning commonly-used firearms.
To the civilian disarmament advocates who read this blog (and you know who you are): if you ever wonder why we fight you on every single issue, in every forum, on every two-bit propaganda show…if you wonder why rifles like the AR-15 and AK-47 have proliferated in civilian hands to an amazing degree in the past ten years…if you want to know why we burst into raucous laughter every time one of your acolytes in the legacy media parrots the falsehood, “no one’s coming for your guns,” this is why.
The bad faith, ignorance, and contempt for the Bill of Rights enshrined in Senator Feinstein’s latest 123-page abomination of a bill is why.
Owning firearms puts my liberty and my safety into *my* hands, not some stranger’s. As Sarah Connor said in Terminator 2, “No fate but what we make.” Allowing someone else to determine that for you is essentially the same as giving up the choice/right to not be a victim of violence.
Honestly the $6k Rolex doesn’t faze me at all. I don’t make close to 6 figures but I’ve got a gun collection worth over $6k. I’ve got $2,500 alone in my AR. If I wasn’t a “gun guy” and had saved all that money up I’d have my own brand new Rolex if I wanted it.
I mean, I enjoy making fun of big government as much as the next guy, but do we have to be so paranoid and judgy? Sheesh.
Nothing is foolproof but I want a fighting chance for me and mine. One thing I know is no one is saying “it won’t happen in Texas” anymore…
So sad that Remington is in the state it’s in these days. The 700 used to be one of the best out-of-the box rifles you could get. I’ve got a 700 in .30-06 that was made in the early 60’s (it might even be a first-run, since -06 was one of the introductory calibers), and I wouldn’t part with it for anything. There’ll never be another 700 like it again.
I never wanted a Glock brand glock…until today.
Bring it on leftards…over your lifeless corpse’s. Yes I believe the demscum are serious. I live in Illinoisistan????
Whelp, I suppose it’s time to buy another couple thousand rounds of 5.56.
Would someone please pour a bucket of water on that old witch.
Did Feinstein actually read the entire bill…or is another one we have to pass to see what is in it deal?
Since there is a “Grandfather Clause” in this excuse for “public safety” I’ll wager there’s another tsunami of AR/AK buying coming before this thing comes up for consideration. I don’t think it’s got the chance of a fart in a windstorm of passing but I wouldn’t want to bet on it. So, buy all the “high capacity” mags and repair kits you can afford and get your AR/AK as soon as possible.
The comments coming out of Sutherland Springs in the aftermath of the spree killings have done enormous damage to the the entire gun-control narrative. If Stephen had not been there and if Johnnie hadn’t stopped at the intersection, that killer could have easily driven to the next church and killed as many people there. The cold, hard truth is found in the blood of innocents in that small community and a barefoot good man with a gun who stopped an evil that could easily have taken the lives of many others on that day. End of argument.
Well you know this is actually kind of good. As usually Feinstein has bitten off way more than she can
chewgum (she is the oldest member of the Senate after all). Which, while scary, her over reach almost always makes the bill a non-starter.That said, much like North Korea, you can’t just relying on the incompetence of our enemies to keep you safe.
Grist for the secessionist mill.
Gabby Giffords, so many fails over to long a time. As a business woman she destroyed my favorite tire store/repair shop here in Tucson, AZ. Then she went into politics (where else would a failed D Politico go?!). She pissed everyone off including the libritard @hole that shot her in the head along with 18 others killing 5 as I recall. A BIG FAIL on her part as she didn’t call up the Sheriff’s Dept and ask for a deputy or 2 to come over and run security. Pretty stupid as she was getting enough hate mail to have tipped her off that one of her own was going to get nasty with her soon enough. If she had done that, the shooting would likely not have happened. They would have spotted that libritard @hole and stopped him. It was her lack of security that got her and those other poor people shot. Fail, fail, fail.
Once she was back to work in the congress she didn’t seem to be doing any worse for wear, proving that you don’t need a brain to be a libritard in Congress!
These days she is just a puppet of Soros, Bloomberg and the like, with their arm up her orifice making her mouth move, nothing up stair to make it work on her own. Her stupid asstronut hubby is no better. Fail, Fail, Fail, so many fails. I pity them it must hurt to be so stupid, so wrong, so many times for so long.
Why doesn’t that bitch go ahead and have her inevitable stroke. Jeez I’m so sick and tire of some son of a bitch telling me what I need and don’t need. Just leave us good people alone.
PS Why don’t they just go on to North Korea where they feel at home thos commi bastards.
I’m sorry, but it seems like you just talked in a circle and came to an obvious conclusion.
Can you explain the consequences of this explanation for the common man?
I am not much of a gun person, but could that position of the recoil spring in front of the trigger guard be used on say, a single stack 9mm, to reduce the recoil? The problem with the single stack, concealed carry friendly guns is the recoil…could that spring position help with that? And that trigger safety, can other pistols copy that or is that patented?
While I suspect this kind of bill has zero chance to pass federally, I am worried about what will happen in California.
Currently as it is, we’re already effed in the arse when it comes to gun rights here. If some bold democratic state assemblyman decides to adopt the language of this bill and update a few things in California, it will get a whole lot worse. As mentioned above, the Glock 17/Beretta 92/other handgun ban is one thing, and an awful one at that for sure.
Another aspect is if they decide to adopt the new assault weapon language, then ANY rifle with a “barrel shroud” (ie, a handguard) will become an assault weapon. Currently that barrel shroud requirement is not mentioned, and so we are able to still get some funky looking ARs and AKs into the state (but still quite neutered). If Handguards become banned, then kiss nearly all semi-auto rifles good bye. Seriously, the only ones left are old Browning BARs (not the WWII ones either) and Mini-14s with wood stocks. Eff that.
While I do envision a workaround for the above handguard example (not spoiling that here) , there are just too many other poison pills in the new AW bill. I have a deep sense of foreboding about gun rights for California, MA, NJ, and NY, as these states haven’t ever seen a gun control bill they hate.
And this is one of the reasons i stopped listening to their music.
People like this wouldn’t see the truth if it was glued to their face.
EXCELLENT LINE, JEREMY!: “Personally, I dig the Robocop meets pregnant guppy aesthetic.”
Tim McGraw is a podunk fudd. Maybe when he learns how to read he can read the 2nd Amendment and realize it doesn’t say a damn thing about hunting or sport. It’s tyranny insurance, nothing less.
She is more plastic than my Glock!
Wow, where are these magical rocket launchers that fit under the barrel of an AR. Pretty sure you need to have at least an FFL and paper work on any and all destructive devices as far as the grenade launcher goes. Maybe she would even go so far as to add an addition to the bill such as a provision for a chainsaw bayonet. The type USA Today seams to think exists.
People vote their interests. The races you pointed out all had a virulently anti-gun democrat. Had the democrat been more moderate on gun rights, or supportive, the split would have likely been different.
Back in the day, Faith was a fresh-faced, honest sounding young country singer, entertaining a traditional country fan base. About the time she had to start writing lyrical excuses for why she really wasn’t a stuck-up Hollywood elitist (Mississippi Girl) was the time I dumped her music from my playlist. Although not as much of a snake as Taylor Swift, she’s totally converted to a pop singer. Whiny-assed Tim McGraw is cut of the same fabric.
from the wording, they would have to been made and designed for automatic use first, then it was made into a civilian semi version, that is what they want banned. Unlike the Glock or Luger which were designed as semi’s FIRST, then modifications were made and auto’s were manufactured. so if a pistol was only made in automatic first, THEN it was developed into a semi, that is what they are talking about.
Thats what i got out of it anyways, not that i agree but it seems thats what there were intending.
But as we all know, this is just them getting the proverbial “foot in the door”
To paraphrase Paul Giamatti, “Guns don’t elect Republicans. But they sure do help!”
The truth is that almost all of these democrat terrorists support gun control. And nearly all republicans don’t. If you want to keep your guns, vote for republicans. If you don’t, vote for those filthy, subhuman, Liberal Terrorists™. (Yes, aberrations exist. Almost every gun control bill in the last 20 years has been exclusively initiated and supported by democrat terrorists- except Manchin-Toomey bill and the recent HR3999).
Or better yet – opt out because you realize that voting doesn’t really do a dang thing!
R or D doesn’t matter, two sides of the same coin.
Both want to tax you to death and fund their personal pet projects. It just so happens that Rs are highly invested in murdering and bombing people in other countries so they pay lip service to keeping people armed here.
But in reality they don’t do anything. How many times (google it) have the Rs controlled both houses of congress and the executive branch and yet we see no rollbacks of any previous infringements on our rights, 2a or otherwise. No, instead we get such awesomeness as the “patriot act”…
For recent proof just look at all the R support for bump-stock bans.
Anyone who is looking at any politician on either side of the aisle as an ally is either blind, foolish or both.
Retired Marine we will give up our weapons when pigs fly. The first thing any country does before the enslave you is this. Look at Cuba if you don’t believe me.!!!!!
Dingii.
“common sense (gun control)” is TYRANNICAL COMMUNIST POD PEOPLE code speak for “COME AND KILL US BEFORE WE SPREAD!”
Your so reserved, lol
I like how my BLR is specifically exempted TWICE in this bill, although wouldn’t it be exempt by default because it’s not semiauto? Meanwhile, the BAR Mk3 may not be clearly exempted at all. Clearly this list was put together by people who know their stuff…
Also, when you use a forward grip you might as well be giving Satan a rusty trombone, so they must be banned for the sake of the children. No one denies this!…
The Democratic Party Platform explicitly calls for more gun control. The Republican Party Platform specifically outlines Second Amendment rights.
This stuff isn’t that hard.
NAGR and it’s founder/president Dudley Brown have been repeatedly called out for being a fake gun-rights group. The “National Association of Gun Rights” has reportedly NEVER been involved or contributed towards any pro-second Amendement litigation or spent a dime outside of their own fund-raising. AFAIK Dudley Brown has not been able to provide evidence to the contrary.
Don’t give money to fake gun-rights groups – You might as well send it to Mickey Bloomberg.
Join the GOA, SAF or NRA instead.
What a couple of PHONY rat ass elites. Oh, I got my shotgun (joe biden approved?), I hunt birds n stuff. Every thing else should be banned, except of course, my body guards. As for Faith, move to N Korea, Cuba, Venezuela. Them have strict strict strict GUN CONTROL. B-ich.
I don’t do Facebook, Twitter or Instagram so only one entry for me.
Another Hollywood…..
-Yup, you guessed it: Elitist.
The most eye opening thing when Trump won the election?
Hollywood’s reaction. That they “didn’t get what they want”, etc.
THAT was eye opening.
As is the unending media bias.
Feinstein is just doing what Republicans did when they crafted ObamaCare repeal legislation they knew Obama would never sign. She’s playing tough on guns for her dimwit supporters.
Technically, nobody is coming for your guns.
Realistically, they wouldn’t have to. You won’t be allowed to sell them or give them away, even to immediate family. And when you shuffle off this mortal coil, the State will take possession.
Nope, nobody is coming for your guns.
Sorry, but it has to be at least more accurate than me. And that shouldn’t be so hard.
“..if you ever wonder why we fight you on every single issue..”
Where was the fight for bump fire stocks a few weeks ago? I saw and heard a lot of “pro gun” people more than willing to have them banned up to and including the NRA.
There has been no serious demand for any type of true pro gun legislation and any that show signs of life that RINO p.o.s. Ryan kills it. Fuck this corrupt bullshit system.
I like what I see – but it appears it is having some growing pains.
And for me – the price is not right.
If I can buy a Beretta 92 for $500 with shit-load of parts and machining then this gun will have to be cheaper for me to consider buying it.
It is not a custom-fitted – lazer beam hole puncher or made from unobtainium weighing 14oz.
It is a neat design that looks like it would easy-to-run.
They may keep the price-point high and limit sales (been done before) if they can’t make that many.
Even if they don’t want to sell one to me, it will have a long movie career ahead of it.
Each one grew up poor white trash. He sang cover songs and a racist Indian song to make his name. She slept her way through record executives and song writers to make her name. Between the two of them, tbey have about two years worth of community college, which they flunked out of. Why shouldn’t we hang on every constitutional pronouncement uttered by either one of them?
If she spent less money on her face she’d have more money to buy guns
the entire field of psychology is bullshit anyways. its not scientific in any way. its not reproducible or peer reviewable. you just have to take the Docs word for it. even a lot of what Freud “discovered” is hugely debated. personally i think Freud was a complete and utter pervert. no telling how many patients he molested while hypnotized.
BS.
First, you need to understand the difference between psychology and psychiatry, totally different fields and approaches.
Next you need to review the 100’s of peer reviewed journals in the field. A quick review of Medscape or other online source might help you. There is actually some really good science there, that follows the scientific method, can be replicated, etc…
There is also lots of personal opinion and agendas mixed in, clinical studies with absurdly small samples. etc… A well read person will most likely come to the conclusion that the issue is that the mind is very complex with an unknown number of variables. We can see some cause and effect, but we don’t know enough to predict with any accuracy on an individual basis not determine root cause of many sick bastards.
Do it like an acquaintance who on buying a new house discovered a hollow space between the chimney, a closet, and water heater cabinet: on measuring it, he discovered it would hold his gun safe, so there is now a wall with hidden “puzzle” locks so no one even knows there’s a gun safe.
So he throws his entire profession under the bus for being ineffective in these cases, then with scientific-sounding certainty makes pronouncements as to the culpability of politicians, the legal system, and even of guns themselves in contributing to mass shootings.
He should have his examined.
Link not working for me. Anyone? Anyone?
Let’s not forget the one industry that’s most responsible for making violence glamorous and cool: Entertainment.
Between the big screen, the small screen, and music, there has been such a grotesque debasement of our culture that such atrocities are, as I said, glamorous and cool. Ditto for ordinary “Chicago style” street crime.
As for the psychiatric profession, the only difference between them and witch doctors is that by comparison witch doctors are harmless phonies.
If accurate and $750 I’m interested. As is, not so much.
I left my guns out all weekend loaded and they didn’t kill anybody maybe they’re broken I should have them looked at
They are broken for sure. I’ll be happy to take them off your hands.
I’m of the opinion that the main reason people go into psychology is to figure out what is wrong with themselves. Most of them are too damaged to figure it out yet alone being able to help a patient.
Ahem! My gun is up here….
After the Weinstein meeting, Wanda’s agent suggested she bring protection for herself and the fiscus plant next time she was summoned to his office.
I am disappointed that you missed the Gun Nuts.
https://www.amazon.com/Gunsticles-Tactical-Testicles-Rail-Mounted/dp/B06Y4587V9
Historically civilians had better weapons than the government. Kentucky rifle, 250 yards effective range. British brown Bess smooth bore musket, 60 yards max effective range.
More Thompson sub machine guns were in civilian hands than government hands in the 1920s.
Today civilians and government are about equal in firepower. And the Left doesn’t like it.
Why are we subjected to such juvenile actions by a group of intellectually challenged immature mental midgets? Oh, how I long for the days when we had some sensible reports about the field of truthful firearms-related subjects that provided substance for education, thought and consideration.
i see roast beef but smell haddock
Hello ,,, Nazycegrowithagun, she said fuck you and it’s my gun now.
You ask me for anal one more time…
The Demoncrats are trying to legislate us into an armed revolt to protect the Constitution, the foundation of our country that they took an oath to protect.
The Demoncrats are trying to legislate us into an armed revolt to protect the Constitution, the foundation of our country that they took an oath to protect.
Kay, why?
Another Fake Christian Imam, the only reason the church wanted it’s people disarmed was for a sheeple reason as sheeple can be controlled and led to the slaughter easier, (less likely to prosecute and dismember its perverted Priests), most religions became political, when they did it was for the betterment of the leadership and not their flock>
“How do you justify that you’re following a person who prayed to God ?. . .”. Easy, I never listen to people who use religion to lead others on a fool’s errand.
If you count range time as training, I am good. I like to shoot and do so every week. Mixing 22 in with center file keeps the price reasonable and the availability of ranges in TX is pretty good.
Punching paper has its limits. IDPA has some value for me but like many I suspect, I am not hard core. Much of the training I see available is either geared towards younger, fit, experienced shooters who or basic gun safety. Find mid level options where you can refine the basics is hard.
Variable power optics FTW.
Did anyone else read this and think “Armed response to a terrorist attack class taking place in… in heavy brush… WTAF?!”?
What other constitutional right can be suspended by a court Order without the participation of the party?
How about the 4th, yep in this instance (the state in their wisdom will enter your house and take your possessions).
How about the 5th, when the individual won’t tell the police where his weapons are hidden, oh that leads to the 8th (cruel and unusual punishment) just put the person in jail (for his safety) until he complies with court order. How about an EX, or a family member, or any state agency suspending your voting rights and you have to prove you are sane enough to vote.
So anyone who voted for Trump (HRC or Bernie) obviously has a mental issue and needs to be cleared by a mental health professional (who by the way is employed by said government).
What could possibly go wrong!
In theory, getting a temporary restraining order that temporarily restricts an individual’s rights isn’t unheard of — as long as the defendant is guaranteed the right to be promptly appear and be heard *and* there is a mechanism for recovering damages for a wrongful injunction.
If ERPO proponents are serious that ERPO’s are only going to used in the most extreme and urgent cases, and aren’t going to be abused or used to violate someone’s legitimate rights, then they ought to have no problem with the following modest proposals:
1. You want a ERPO issued, you must first post a bond of at least $10K. (Just about any other kind of TRO or preliminary injunction always requires the movant to post a bond to cover the defendant’s damages if it turns out that the injunction was wrongfully obtained. Why should ERPO’s be any different?)
2. ERPO must automatically expire and the bonded amount be immediately paid to the defendant after ten days unless, at a hearing where the defendant has the meaningful right and ability to appear and be heard, the movant demonstrates by clear and convincing evidence that the defendant was in fact a danger to himself or others. (Standard here should be similar to that required for involuntary civil commitment.)
3. If ERPO is ultimately not upheld (or is overturned on appeal), movant must pay the defendant’s attorneys fees and all actual damages (including any amounts that exceed the amount of the bond).
4. No immunity of any type for any judges, police, etc., for their involvement in issuing, serving, or enforcing any ERPO that is not ultimately upheld, and they are jointly and severally liable with the movant for all amounts payable to the defendant.
In short, if you want an ERPO, you have to put your money where your mouth is, and if it turns out that you can’t prove your case, the person whose rights you infringed is automatically compensated. Further, the judges and cops will have skin in the game, as they will *personally* be on the hook if it turns out the there was not a truly exigent need for an ERPO.
Would ERPO proponents be amenable to provisions like this that would put some real teeth into protecting the rights of the innocent? Of course not, and that should tell you all you need to know about their actual motivations.
We have armed security/people in our church, and we’re just a small–maybe 150 people–church. Many black people don’t like guns. They think that guns are only for criminals and drug dealers. That’s how messed up the black community is in the United States.
Well then, it’s a damn good thing I don’t believe in Jesus.
Because my home isn’t a gun range, and the .308 ammo tree has yet to bear fruit, so….I have to buy or roll my ammo, that takes time.
That .308 ammo tree is pissing me off, I’ve tried eggshells, myracle-grow, worm dirt….everything!!!
Let me chime in on Clint Smith’s second reason people don’t train…money. Because they just spend $5000 at your place getting yelled at by you..or you destroying their property because you don’t like it. Find a smaller training range for basic pistol…most cost around $500 for two days. Get the basic, work from their. They do alot of dry firing…believe it helps a great deal. You don’t need police, military, or Tier 1 level training…just the basics. How to load, unload, and remove malfunctions. I will also say, take a bit of that $5000 you did not spend at Gun Site, Thunder Ranch or Sig School…and use to talk to a lawyer about what to do before, during and after a self defense incident.
Our Society / Culture IS to blame. We are a “GOOD” people who have stopped teaching our children the principals and values that make us a “good” people.
1) The 10 Commandments
2) Golden Rule
3) Personal Responsibility
4) FEAR OF GOD.
Someone famous and important once said, “We are only 1 generation away from losing our freedom as a nation.” He said it because he knew that unless we instilled “Goodness” into our children, they wouldn’t understand what was being lost.
The whole self-governing democratic republic model set up by the founders and secured by the Constitution and Bill of Rights only works for a good people.
History recorded that Ben Franklin emerged from the Constitutional Convention and was asked by a woman citizen, “What have you gotten for us?”. Franklin replied, “A Republic, Madam if you can keep it.”
If our people stop being good people, we don’t deserve this republic and we will not be able to keep it. Guns have nothing to do with it. Doing the right thing. Being good to one another. Taking personal responsibility for our actions. Fearing that God will not look favorably on us when we are judged at life’s end. These things, the lack of them within us, have everything to do with it.
No way will I do business with any company that uses easy to database electronic forms. Part of what makes the 2nd Amendment safe from Democrats is the sheer nightmare of what it would take to create a database of paper 4473 forms we all filled out every time we bought a gun. The first step in this is to have dealers voluntarily use eforms, then require them to, “so the dealers can easily look up the form when ATF calls for a trace.” Next they will be required. Eventually Congress will require them to be sent to ATF, and there is your handy dandy list of everything we own. That list will be fully sortable to produce lists to allow confiscation of anything the government deems too dangerous for you to own.
Next combine that list with other government lists. Say your brother got caught as a super speeder, and the judge sees he has three ARs, since the has proved to have poor self control he is allowed to plead down to a small fine, if he turns them in. Baby steps is how the gun banners will try to do it, and computer databases are the essential tool required to make it happen!
I believe the technical term for this guy is “fucking moron.”
I’ve had the 223 version for a couple of years, I like it a LOT but the damned turrets get bumped off of zero dragging it around in the brush. It has held up just fine, but having a half dozen clicks of windage or elevation you didn’t know about is a bummer. If they had locking rings that would be sufficient, or a capped turret as noted in the review. As it is, I don’t use it afield any longer – it’s on a range-use-only upper now.
The Devil’s Rejects is the only movie I’ve ever turned off for being terrible. And it was mostly because of a scene in a motel where two bad guys are holding people at gunpoint, with 1911’s, with the hammers down. Both baddies could be put down with a knuckle sandwich, but no, it’s gotta be this wierd, perverted, drawn out thing.
Turned on Frozen instead, which is a far better film.
Multiple movies where the shooter repeatedly tries to fire his empty semi-auto and gets click, click, click…like a revolver might make.
Dwayne Johnson in Faster shooting .454 Casull’s in a Ruger Alaskan Redhawk with no recoil.
Farcebook won’t allow you to “like” the Spyderco site on their illustrious site when trying from TTAG. The sjw boss sucks over there you know. …ooh my, bad guns and evil sites, lol
Just go to Spyderco on Facebook and you can like em there
Do it just to fvuk with them liberal types at Farcebook
Fear of guns is I think similar to fear of sharks. Majority of sharks are completely harmless, and even those that can kill will ignore people. Shark fatalities are so rare. It’s so rare that you are 75 times more likely to die by lightning. But when it happens it’s brutal, so it sticks to people’s minds.
I know many people who have never even seen a shark outside an aquarium and yet can’t stop imagining it coming for them when they go swimming.
If nobody ask me, S&W been junk since the 80’s, started cutting corners on quality and materials. Can’t remember what 9mm s&w had that all the cops carried, they was junk. Bought a .22 pistol s&w on a whim, it shot straight but had a iitty bitty diameter barrel surrounded by luminum, junk. My former bosses .357 junk compared to old ones. Sigmas look like Glocks and their both junk. But I’m just prejudiced against guns made outta plastic, they just ain’t all a gun can be, no pretty wood, polished steel with that to die for Colt Royal blue. That’s not just a gun it’s art. Dragging out them tacked out black guns don’t help gun grabbers attitudes, they look at them like, “Are those plastic guns real? .They are!!! That’s some seriously scary junk.”
About 20 minutes into “The Devils Brigade” with James Garner the US troops are shown boarding LST’s with slung Enfield Rifles.
That’s a very valid question, even if you ignore the “0.9mm” thing. If I were in New Jersey and had no access to hollowpoints and a 10rd magazine cap, I’d be carrying something in at least .45ACP.
Well if the new governor signs into law the smart gun initiative then that would mean that if the FFLs are in line with the NRA then all the gun stores in New Jersey will close and move out…. would be interesting to see if FFLs from surrounding states decide not to selll 2 New Jersey Law Enforcement… with no in-state FFL 4 New Jersey I don’t think it’s legally possible 2 do a legal transfer of a firearm..
I would also make sure that New Jersey Law Enforcement was going to pay $5 per round of ammunition….
The “Magic of Monarchy” that Prince Harry of the U.K. has mentioned once or twice (or more) is supposed to stem from the fact that the Monarch takes the people’s overall interests to heart, and can protect the people from oppression by the aristocracy. In practice, however, the current Queen is mostly a figurehead with little real power to help the people.
Consequently, the British government of Parliament and the bureaucracy is largely free to oppress the people as much and as long as they see fit. Sure, the people get to elect the Members of (the lower house of) Parliament, but even majority voting (as with Brexit) can result in delays and restrictions of implementation.
By now, the Brits are so brainwashed by the elites into believing that they have no right to defend themselves that they are mostly complacent about demanding that the government stop infringing on their rights — which natural rights are not protected in any formal Constitution beyond the accumulated Acts of Parliament.
I suspect that the U.K. will not be a leader in the European restoration of gun rights; but that, instead, they will have to follow the leads of such mountainous places as Czechoslovakia and Switzerland.
Ms. Richardson is another one the “We have to do something, anything no matter what” crowd. In other words a “Know nothing”.
Because I’m lazy.
According to today’s news, the Rancho Tehama gunman turned over his guns when served with the restraining order. At the time of his death, he had two unserialized (i.e. 80% lower) ARs and two hand guns that “were not registered to him.”
What, not one picture of a black plastic gun, all I seen was ugly looking engraved steel and polished wood, yuk…….lol I’m giving Glock n AR guys fits. …. I like guns, all guns. Pitty gun enthusiast(nut) has such a bad rap.
Fix NICS? I once had a dog fixed. I suggest the same fix for NICS.
“…modern AR- and AK-style pistols, which can be concealed like handguns…”
Yeah, nothing says “concealable” like a 20″ long “pistol” that weighs five pounds. I carry one in an ankle holster every day.
While I agree that the $2.8 billion expense is out of context, $1 trillion means 1/17 of our economy. That would require a crime rate that makes active war zones look peaceful.
The AZ government has a much higher valuation than the Federal SGLI which is $250k. Using the $250k gives us around $40 billion which is still more than $2.8 billion
I guess I will get an AR pistol with brace, binary trigger… In .50 Beowulf. I wonder if slide fire could make a bump brace? Why not? If not I could then SBR it and put a bump stock on it. Bump stock plus binary trigger would just go super duper fast! Then use incendiary .50 Beowulf rounds. Just have to add a grenade launcher to it and bayonet, maybe a TrackingPoint. And a silencer to make it totally silent. Yes, the ultimate evil gun.
So what does this mean for the abundance of “5.56 + 7.5 inch barrel = pointless range toy” opinions out there?
Is FN marketing a pricey rang toy to SOF?
This is gold:
“In effect, this tells the millions upon millions of lawful gun owners in this country that somehow their freedom plays a role in the criminal misuse of a firearm.”
Every single damn proposal to “Do something!” somehow includes burdening millions of people who have not done anything wrong, that is, except being different from the folks wrangling the laws.
This absolutely needs saying, again and again
“Remember, in 1994, that this law was passed with Republicans help so the country could once and for all “get the [gun control issue] behind us.” (Those were Bob Dole’s words.) But, of course, passing any part of the gun control agenda doesn’t get the issue behind us — it makes gun grabbers want more.”
Our “negotiating partners” on gun control are not honest brokers (any more than they are on various entitlements, immigration, income support, environment, or education.) It’s sad because a ton of things the larger “we” could do are off the table, because they cannot be trusted.
Gotta be said, early and often:
“Shooters in virtually every major mass shooting in recent years passed the Brady check. These include killers in Sutherland Springs, Las Vegas, San Bernardino, Orlando, Aurora, Ft. Hood, the Navy Yard and many more. And the one that didn’t, in Newtown, killed his mother and stole her guns.”
And while we’re told that one more control will somehow work, any notion other than sweeping restrictions on millions of people who haven’t done anything never gets a hearing. It’s like prohibiting people on the “terrorist watch list” from doing this or that. Here’s a notion. How about we watch them? Anybody on the list does nothing wrong, we aren’t inflicting a summary burden on them. The ones that do something, say, terroristic, we nail them, for being terrorists.
What *else* can we do?
And here’s the cost of disarmament, to flog, flog, and flog again:
“Virtually every recent mass shooting in recent years also had something else in common: They were brought to an end when a “good guy with a gun” arrived on the scene.”
How many citizens are you willing to get killed for this, because that’s the balancing cost of gun restrictions. Less bad people get guns, and less people die; more good people can’t get guns, so they, too, die.
This one doesn’t get enough emphasis:
“• Rifles, including semi-automatics like the AR-15, are not the weapon of choice for criminals. In fact, fists and feet kill at least twice as often as all rifles, including AR- 15s, according to the FBI.”
Rifles, even eeee-vil assault rifles (which they aren’t) aren’t the commonly-used killers. Even more important, the exact features that Senator No-Guns-For-You calls out to ban make them more effective self-defense tools.
This needs to be flogged again, and again until The Stupid Party gets it:
“Make no mistake about it: Your political enemies want you to help them to defeat you by “putting points on the board” for gun control.”
Beat this again, and again:
“So, as you scramble around looking for “something to do” about recent criminal acts, here are a few things to ponder.”
Do this every time they screech “Something must be done!” Along with the gun stuff, which, of course, flog anything else that might be done. Point out that somehow it’s always a ban on People Who Aren’t Like Them. Hook them on “What will you do?” Yes, “I’ll give up my guns when you give up you armed security.” is fine. BUT, go after the other, non-gun stuff too.
Multiple assaults: why wasn’t this whack-job under someone’s control in the first place?
“Known wolf” on a mission from god to cleanse the world. Maybe watch that one?
Statistically, there’s some classes of medication that if you’re on this stuff, you ought to be supervised. you brain’s not working right.
Response time is a thing.
etc.
Our Fearful Congresscritters lack the courage of their convictions; the ones they claim to have. In the end, they do respond to direct feedback applied to their political careers. “Do this or we’ll un-elect you.” Party doesn’t matter in this. BUT, given that it’s a 2-party lock-up of the system, and the D-people have staked out the intolerable position on this issue, the only game is to co-opt the R’s. Despite themselves. That letter is right in line with exactly that.
“less widespread adoption by the general gun-buying public”->At $2,700 + I cannot possibly imagine why that might be. It’s not like there are guns out there 1/2 the price and just as accurate.
“Best” is a highly subjective definition. I am a fan of many rifles that didn’t make the list, but mostly due to their prevalence. The SMLE (pick your favorite version) was a fairly good rifle for its day. Similarly, the Mosin was a perfectly serviceable rifle at the turn of the 20th century designed to be made by illiterate peasants for illiterate peasants.
The local indoor range here has no problem with rapid fire. Of course, they also do Class 3 rentals & just added a new beltfed to the rental lineup.
I’m seeing more ranges that will allow holster draw, AFTER undergoing certification from a RSO on site, which is really a good thing – safety first! Saddle River near Houston, Triangle in Raleigh. Let’s hope others will pick up on the idea.
Who wants bipartisanship? I voted for specific candidates because I didn’t want the other one to win. Why would I want him to cross the aisle and play kumbaya with the other party on legislation that he was elected to oppose?