Call Of Duty: Infinite Warfare. Pay-To-Win?

Call Of Duty: Infinite Warfare is caught in a pay-to-win controversy,” reports. “CharlieINTEL has confirmed that there are supply drop exclusive weapons. As expected, the community is far from thrilled.” Over at the aforementioned link, commentator YoungMurf resembles that remark. “F*ck supply drops.” For those of you unfamiliar with the issue, here’s the problem:

Every leveled-up weapon in the Prototype Lab can be earned via virtual currency called Salvage or by leveraging the supply drop system, which costs real-world money. In Call Of Duty: Black Ops 3, for example, a rare supply drop costs 200 Call Of Duty Points or $1.99, or 30 Cryptokeys.

In other words, because all of the game’s guns can be unlocked through a paid structure, those unwilling to grind for upgrades simply have to shell out a few extra dollars to substitute for the hours of actual gameplay that most players will endure.

To make matters even more troubling, however, the grind seems like it will be quite tedious for those patient masses. If the recent beta is any indication, matches will offer about 10 Salvage per round, and it takes 6,000 Salvage to unlock every tier for a single gun. That equates to 600 games to get every perk for just one weapon!

Geddowdaheah! I thought FPS video games were the ultimate socialist paradise! Infinite Warfare was unlocked today at high noon EST. Somehow I don’t think this controversy will have the slightest impact on the game’s profitability . . .


  1. avatar Vhyrus says:

    And I thought shooting was expensive.

    1. avatar McBell says:

      Hacking Pay2Win games is far cheaper.

  2. avatar Steven says:

    This is so offensive to gamers. We spend our hard earned money only to be nickled and dimed to death (respawn?). No thanks, i was planning to buy this solely for the remastered cod 4 but now I’m just going to save my money and put it towards a real gun.

  3. avatar Xanthro says:

    “Infinite Warfare was unlocked today at high noon EST.”
    I think you mean EDT, since we are still on Daylight time until Sunday , November 6.
    You can also just use ET, for Eastern Time, as opposed to Eastern Standard Time and Eastern Daylight Time.
    There is a one hour difference between EDT and EST.

    1. avatar Mk10108 says:

      Factual ?

  4. avatar Alex Waits says:

    this is following the mobile gaming model. it will wreck the game.

    1. avatar Xanthro says:

      12 FPS on an Overclock 1080, with 64 gigs of RAM and a 6700 i7 will kill the game.

      Right now, it’s not playable. There is either a driver issue, or the game is screwed.

  5. Buying one’s way to the max level in a video game doesn’t make a better player anymore than dropping $4,000 on a custom AR-15 with optics makes a better marksman. Also, who in their right mind plays this botched appendectomy of a video game while Battlefield 1 exists?

    1. avatar Waffensammler98 says:

      Protip: never hastily use the internet immediately after an intense workout. Mods, please delete the above comment.

      1. avatar Hannibal says:

        I’ll send you some emails with hax

    2. avatar strych9 says:

      I think you meant Battlefield 2142…

      1. avatar Vendetta says:

        Said nobody. Ever.

        1. avatar strych9 says:

          Apparently you never played it. That game was released in 2006 and still has servers up and a dedicated following.

      2. avatar Johannes Paulsen says:

        Do people still play that???

  6. avatar Nynemillameetuh says:

    If you have to endure hours of gameplay, it sounds like a terrible game. I’ll stick to Battlefield 1 than you very much. Despite the inaccuracies as described by Ian over at Forgotten Weapons, it’s a hoot.

    1. avatar Jake R says:

      I’m not sure the guy I knifed 3 seconds after he got the Sentry kit would agree! I, however, have been having a blast!

    2. avatar Johannes Paulsen says:

      The great thing about BATTLEFIELD is that it really rewards team play, and if you can get a group of friends together and do a little bit of thinking, you can really do well in the game.

      The bad thing about BATTLEFIELD is that it really rewards team play, and if you can’t get a group of friends together and do a little bit of thinking, you will get your hat handed to you constantly.

  7. avatar Waffensammler98 says:

    Buying max level content in a video game makes you no better a player than dropping $4,000 on a custom AR-15 and optics makes you a better marksman.

    1. avatar Xanthro says:

      In video games, unlocking better weapons does give you an edge, because the exact same skill equals more damage.
      That said, competitive gaming requires money. Milliseconds matter, so a monitor with a 144hz refresh and the video card to drive that gives you a distinct edge over people who can’t afford that kind of hardware.

      1. avatar waffensammler98 says:

        Having weapons that do more damage or OP items may provide an edge, but it isn’t a substitute for knowing how to play well. If it really is that easy, the devs made a mistake. I haven’t been a gamer since high school, but I recall seeing people get thoroughly rekt in Modern Warfare 1, myself included, by guys with nothing more than an M4 + red dot.

        1. avatar Xanthro says:

          It depends on the game. Some are OP and you can’t compete without the unlocks.
          You can’t compete at the highest levels without the unlocks, because every little edge counts.

  8. avatar Hannibal says:

    It’ll keep happening because it makes them (more) money. They would rather have all the money with an annoying game than have some of the money with a great game.

  9. avatar Dave in VA says:

    Ummm…. Slow news day? So what? They found out people will pay for it, so they incorporated it into the game. Capitalism at its finest folks.

  10. avatar Steve says:

    That’s not “pay-to-win”, that’s “pay-to-accelerate”. Under the PTA model people who pay don’t have any other advantage than spending a bit less time to get something. Trust me, not nearly as bad as “pay-to-win”, which locks the best items behind a hard paywall that you HAVE to pay to unlock with no other ways to access the material.

    But this isn’t a gaming blog, soo…..

    1. avatar Cabbage says:

      TTAG should stick to its guns. RF evidently doesn’t know enough about the gaming industry if he is dismissing p2w controversies as the product of socialist thinking.

  11. avatar strych9 says:

    Micro transactions are starting to piss me off. They work in an MMO but not in an FPS game. This new COD game is likely to end up like Eve Online. Loved by a few people with a lot of expendable time, or in this case expendable money, and hated by pretty much everyone else.

    IMHO the current best FPS is still BF4. Best milsim is Arma 3. Best 3rd person shooter is TC’s The Division.

    The COD franchise, at this point, can eat a bag of dicks. Now, if Robert’s Space Industries could unfuck the development of Star Citizen… that would be badass. FPS plus dogfighting in space? Fuck yeah! Oh, and DAT CryEngine rebuild! Gorgeous!

  12. avatar Southern Cross says:

    And this why CoD Black Ops 1 & 2 are still played online. They are fun and don’t try to nickel and dime the players.

    I’m not very good and I am mostly a target for the better players. But occasionally I can get a hit on one of the better players.

  13. avatar Mk10108 says:

    Unsolicited old guy advice of the day. Put the console down and pick up a PLC ladder logic book, put the same energy into understanding it as you do your games. Why? The automation industry needs your skill set.

    1. avatar Lucas D. says:

      It’s a special blend of arrogance and ignorance to hear about one interest or skill that somebody has and immediately assume they have no others.

    2. avatar Hannibal says:

      Jesus, why do old coots think anyone wants to hear their constant… cooting.

  14. avatar Jonathan - Houston says:

    “For those of you unfamiliar with the issue, here’s the problem:”

    Translation: “For those of you who have wives, lives, and the wisdom to have put away childish things when you became a man, here’s the problem:”

    1. avatar Hannibal says:

      Some of us between 25-39 manage to be functional adults with families while still knowing what video games are. I wonder what recreational activities of yours we can use to prove you’re an immature kid. Maybe you waste your time watching sports, instead?

    2. avatar Southern Cross says:

      Console gaming maybe just for kids but adults will still play games on PCs. And not just first-person-shooters. I also enjoy strategy and role-playing games as well.

      I’m in my late 40s and gaming is something my son and I do together. At first it was taking turns in Call of Duty Black Ops 1 & 2 multiplayer bot-match, discussing tactics, weapons, and add-ons between rounds. Now it is playing together as a team in Battlefield 1942, Unreal Tournament, UT2004, Day of Defeat, Quake III, Diablo, and others. It is probably one of the best parent-child bonding methods around as it takes physical ability out of the equation.

  15. avatar Johannes Paulsen says:

    As someone who never has enough time to grind through the game to unlock the really cool stuff and therefore gets PWN3D by a bunch of teenagers on a regular basis, my reaction to this little money-can-be-exchanged-for-goods-and-services scandal is: “And…?”

  16. avatar gargoil says:

    solution: dont play COD, EVER. its a shit franchise and has been for sometime now. Battlefield beats it hands down in every way.

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