Springfield Armory Daily Digest: Goliath Takes a Hit, Semper Fi, and the Future of Gun Sales



Yesterday in Maine, David beat Goliath – “Mainers weren’t supposed to defeat Michael Bloomberg’s agenda on the ballot yesterday. His propaganda was too powerful, his budget was limitless and his paid “grassroots” army was unstoppable. The media seemed to be with him at every turn, echoing his talking points as fact and endorsing the question, one after another. And all along, the polls were in his favor. But Mr. Bloomberg made one fatal mistake: he underestimated the power of the ‘little guy.’” It seems a lot of people did that recently.


5 Things You Might Not Know About the Marine Corps on its Birthday – “The United States Marine Corps celebrates its 241st birthday on Nov. 10, 2016. The day marks the anniversary of the approval of two Marine battalions to join the American Revolution, and today the occasion serves as a “yearly reminder of the brave spirit that has compelled young men and women to defend our nation and its interests for more than two centuries,” according to Marines.com. To honor service members past and present, take a moment to learn five things you might not know about the military branch.” Oorah.


Brazilian Politician Guns Down Man Who Complains To Him About Unfulfilled Election Promise – “A politician in northeastern Brazil has been arrested for shooting and killing a man on Monday after the victim approached him at a club to complain about his unfulfilled election promise. José Alberto Carvalho Pereira, the city counselor of Campo Formoso in the state of Bahia, was reportedly arrested as he was attempting to enter Bonfim, Roraima state, after fleeing the crime scene.”


Mec-Gar® USA is proud to announce the reintroduction of a ten-round 9mm 1911 magazine to its product line. The follower and spring have been redesigned from the previous version to improve functionality and reduce malfunctions.

According to Mec-Gar USA national sales manager David Larson, the magazine has the high quality and attention to detail expected of Mec-Gar magazines, with the following attributes:

  • Body manufactured from carbon steel and heat treated for strength
  • Upgraded anti-tilt polymer follower and spring
  • Spring manufactured from Type D music wire
  • Removable High-impact polymer baseplate for ease of cleaning and tapered to fit standard and tapered magwells
  • Numbered witness holes for remaining-round calculation

Anti-Friction coating reduces the force needed for the slide to load a cartridge from the magazine into the chamber and has superior anti-corrosion properties



We hear more about homicides, but gun suicides outnumber murders in Pennsylvania – “Most Pennsylvania counties have either zero gun murders or totals you could count on one hand. That’s not the case for suicides, which account for nearly two-thirds of the state’s gun deaths, largely in towns like Greensburg and the surrounding rural areas. Eighty-five percent of these suicide victims are white men. ‘Everything you read about in the paper is always homicides,’ said Laurie Barnett Levine, who heads the Ray of Hope suicide prevention task force, which Bacha addressed in Greensburg. ‘Nobody talks about suicide.’”


Will more gun support in Washington hinder sales? – “According to the New York Times, gun sales spiked with each election of President Obama and with recent mass shootings that garner political attention. So, will more gun support in Washington, now with Trump and a Republican majority in the house and senate, actually hinder the gun business?”



  1. avatar jwm says:

    Fuck kapo bloomberg.

    1. avatar Tim says:

      I tell you, someone was PAYING people to put up those “yes on 3” (universal background checks) signs in Maine. NO ONE wanted it, and I’m proud to have voted “NO!”

      1. avatar Matt in Maine says:

        Right there with you, Tim. We had a true grassroots organization that was tireless in fighting against this. People from all over the state contributed in many different ways. We didn’t have a lot of funds. Nearly all of the $1M they say we had came from the NRA in the form of TV and radio ads late into the campaign, meanwhile Bloomberg’s group started with a war chest right out of the gate. I am so proud of our people, our state, Gun Owners of Maine, and our deep traditions.

  2. avatar Joel says:

    I don’t plan to stop buying guns. 🙂

  3. Puh-leeese…gun sales will continue apace. Anyone watching the riots er… “protests” understands being well armed is a priority nowadaze. And I’m doing my part…

    1. avatar BLAMMO says:

      Yeah that.

  4. avatar -Peter says:

    Kinda tiny for a Goliath, ain’t he?

    1. avatar Jomo says:

      Well, it’a more of an ironic turn of phrase…

      1. avatar Rokurota says:

        And just to remind everyone, David did actually beat Goliath.

    2. avatar Bob Jones says:

      Napoleon Complex.
      The worst thing that can happen to a person of short stature.

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Ever since Napoleon!

    3. avatar Wood says:

      We’re talking about bank accounts, not any sort of actual measure of the man. Unless referring to his gargantuanly inflated sense of self. The little stain.

  5. avatar MLee says:

    With no panic buying, the market will stabilize. Inevitably, the fear induced demand for specific products will subside and the industry will adjust to the demand stabilization.

    1. avatar Button Gwinnett says:

      Amazing how that works, init?

    2. avatar Mark N. says:

      Except in California, where sales of soon to be illegal “assault weapons” will continue apace, with ammo sales seeing a huge boost over the next year as the unArmedageddon of Prop 63 takes effect January 1, 2018. And with Attorney General Kamala Harris soon leaving for a senate job in Washington, we expect that she will seek to leave some lasting mark on gun owners before her departure.

  6. avatar statiesevil says:

    Although I think there will be no meaningful “gun control” law repeals under Trump, or national reciprocityr (people still think Republicans are gun friendly, in the main), new “gun control” measures should be DOA for at least 4 years. Bloomberg will concentrate on the states. Ideally, he’ll die soon.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      “Ideally, he’ll die soon.”

      Nah. He bribed god.

      But maybe Soros will kick the bucket soon. He already looks like death warmed over.

      1. avatar Button Gwinnett says:

        Soros spent 1.5 million on a candidate for DA in Jefferson County, CO. The winner, the incumbent Republican, spent like 200K. Soros, Steyer, Bloomberg backed some losers this year.

      2. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        ‘But maybe Soros will kick the bucket soon. He already looks like death warmed over.’

        Kind of like when you nuke the leftover chicken too long and it comes out all rubbery. Only with death, not chicken.

      3. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        Come to think of it, Vladamir Lenin’s mummified corpse looks better than ol’ Jorge Soros.


      4. avatar Mister Fleas says:

        Soros may die soon, but his sons will take over his “work” after his death.

        We need to go after the wealth of people like these. That’s the only way to neuter them.

        1. avatar Gov. William J. Le Petomane says:

          And how do you propose we ‘go after’ their wealth?

        2. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Ask Hillary, I’m sure she had a plan!

    2. avatar Reggie Browning says:

      Yeah. I agree. We can reasonably expect something small like The Hearing Protection act to pass, but I still don’t expect the Republicans to have the spine to force blue states to accept licenses to carry from other states. Those states won’t even let their own citizens carry. The potential benefits from gun owners won’t be worth the backlash and the political gain will be rather small. The safest thing to do politically, it seems is to just not do more damage to the second amendment while not really extending the freedom either. You offend fewer people while you focus on other issues that will have more support behind them.

  7. avatar knightofbob says:

    Well, there is a particular TTAG contributor who seems to have a complete lack of understanding of economics, and thinks that an administration that actively perpetuates his industry is a bad thing. Unless he plans on retiring within the next year, then and only then can I understand the thought that a short term boost is a good thing. Or maybe he wants to go underground. Entertainment media has glamorized the concept of “breaking bad,” particularly in a specific popular serial whose title I forget.

    If you’re the type to speculate on boom and bust economies, might I recommend frozen orange juice. Or roulette, the 00 has a hell of a payout when it hits. And it does hit, I’ve actually seen it happen in Vegas.

    1. avatar knightofbob says:

      Not sure what combination of words triggered the filter, but I am proud to have had my first moderated comment.

    2. avatar dph says:

      00 pays the same as any other number on the wheel. The reason for it and the 0 spot are to tilt the odds in favor of the house, funny how the odds are always in favor of the establishment.

  8. avatar ATTAGReader says:

    I expect gun prices will start coming down. They seem to have crept up in the last few months for certain models, Glocks, AK’s, Springfield XD, Ruger and Smith & Wesson entry level AR’s. Other prices seem to have stayed very low as supply may have surpassed demand. But as FWW above notes, the likelihood of urban unrest is high, and will be much higher next summer after some of the Obama directives have been reversed, the new Congress is seated, and a few idiots decide to see if they can provoke the Donald. They will provoke him, and they will reap the whirlwind. Fortunately, where I live none of this affects me. I am just relieved that there is no need for panic buying, which ought to make Black Friday and Cyber Monday pricing very compelling.

    1. avatar No one of consequence says:

      Problem is, at least some of the places the riots are happening, make legally getting a gun a hassle. California, for instance.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        Which is why you don’t wait for riots to happen before you buy a gun. If you’ve lived for a time in a state and don’t realize there is a civil rights violating waiting period on gun buying then you may well be part of the problem.

  9. avatar CarlosT says:

    I’m looking forward to ammo prices stabilizing. I have plans to get a handgun and rifle in .22 LR and I’d like to be able to buy ammo for them.

    1. avatar 2004done says:

      Learn to reload, long punch to tap out the rim depression, “match head” primers on a long thin paintbrush, and cast-your-own .22 roundball or #4 shot. Tell me how it works, I’m still finishing up my $80/case stuff (and I’m STILL complaining that 1.6 cents/shot is too much). I’m thinking perhaps time has passed me by, again. Maybe I can afford some higher-priced stuff (even as high as $9/brick?).

    2. avatar Sian says:

      Ammo prices are already down about as far as they can go, given the component costs. There just isn’t room to go lower.

      You’re gonna see a price cut in firearms though.

  10. avatar HP says:

    I’d venture a guess that gun sales with remain robust. There might not be any current danger for more federal gun control, but the extreme violence and hate of the leftist protesters will likely lead more people to seek firearms for self defense. Eventually some damn Islamic terrorist will manage to kill some people as well, so that’s in the back of a lot of people’s minds.

  11. avatar Reggie Browning says:

    Considering the market has been flooded with ARs and such that people seriously over paid for…. Prices will go down and people are going to be like “My investment! D=”

    1. avatar Stinkeye says:

      The AR market already deflated quite a while ago. Supply started to outstrip demand a year or so ago, and prices have steadily come down since then. I’m not sure how much lower prices can possibly go, when you can pick up an entry-level no-name AR for $450, or a Ruger or S&W for $550. It can’t be possible to make them much cheaper than that and still be safe, functional, and profitable.

      1. avatar Reggie Browning says:

        Really? Dang! I haven’t even been looking at gun prices for a while because I figured I didn’t have the money for any more big buys like that. But if I can get an AR for less than I paid for my Glock, then I might just do that.

  12. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

    To all you Marines out there. Semper Fi and happy birthday.

    1. avatar John says:

      I for one former Marine…appreciate that.

      I was lucky enough to be in during the 200th and quite the celebration it was.


      1. avatar Jp says:

        Thank you for your service sir.

      2. avatar The Mad Parson says:

        “Former Marine”? My father was Recon during Vietnam and he always insisted “once a Marine, always a Marine”?

        Semper Fi, do or die.

        1. avatar jwtaylor says:

          Former is ok, Ex is not.

        2. avatar Joe R. says:

          Yep, never EX

          HOORAH from a SEABEE


  13. avatar Ddub says:

    I am now going to buy the guns I want, not the guns I think I need to buy because of the political climate. No more mags or boring AR’s, love me some revolvers, pre-lock smiths and single action goodness.

    1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

      Now yer talkin’.

    2. avatar No one of consequence says:

      Don’t forget good old fashioned bolt guns.

      And maybe a CMP M1 Garand.

      1. avatar Mad Max says:

        Hopefully, the new Secretary of Defene will release available surplus to the CMP quickly.

        The folks at the CMP are really hurting for some new inventory (and the DOD has access to plenty)

      2. avatar Wood says:

        Bolt guns aren’t old fashioned, they’re a passing fad. I like falling blocks and other finely made single shots. And things with levers…

    3. avatar Jeff the Griz says:


  14. avatar Chris in SC says:

    I believe you misspelled “hoorah” in the article, but what do I know, I was just a dumb grunt (0351). Semper fi, fellow devil pups.

  15. avatar tjlarson2k says:

    The narrative that guns are evil simply has to die. And the people that keep spouting and spreading this BS message need to be held liable for the damage that message causes. The message that being a victim is the right thing to do when faced against evil is one of the most irresponsible and unjust messages that has been forced on the American people.

    Trump needs to have a “come to Jesus” national speech on evil in the world and the purpose of the 2A. Call on all able bodied Americans to arm up when they have the opportunity, because that’s what being a responsible American in a time where domestic terrorists are a reality in our country (thanks Obama / Hillary).

    Bottom line: Being armed, is the sensible, and responsible position to take and it’s not something to be ashamed about, nor should you ever be discriminated against for choosing to do so (businesses do this all the time with no repercussions). No person or institution should be able to deny a law abiding citizen from lawfully carrying. Period.

    1. avatar No one of consequence says:

      It’d be nice if he were to start with the military, as in on-base carry. I don’t know whether the president could authorise civilian carry in non-militaty federal installations, or whether that would take an act of Congress, but that would also be a nice place to start.

      1. avatar Bill says:

        Trump has a position paper on his web site about 2A and gun rights, and I am very encouraged. https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Second_Amendment_Rights.pdf

        for the life of me, I don’t understand why TTAG is not talking about this!

        1. avatar jwm says:

          TTAG, like the NRA, makes money when gun rights are threatened. Trump and a gop dominated .gov may just end that threat. At least for the time being.

  16. avatar pieslapper says:

    Happy birthday to all of Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children.

  17. avatar Jp says:

    To all the Marines out there… happy birthday and God bless you all. Thank you for your service!
    Long live the devil dogs!

  18. avatar doesky2 says:

    In a county with little or no violent crime it makes perfect sense that suicides outnumber murders.

    When I grew up in rural PA the next town over from me was Amish. I never recall seeing dope dealing Amish gang-bangers the last time I went over to buy some cheese. I’ve also never heard of a drive-by buggy shooting.

    1. avatar No one of consequence says:

      clop clop clop clop clop BANG clop clop clop..

      1. avatar Mad Max says:

        Hopefully, the new Secretary of Defene will release available surplus to the CMP quickly.

        The folks at the CMP are really hurting for some new inventory (and the DOD has access to plenty).

    2. avatar Jim Bullock says:

      Now that’s interesting. What’s the Amish policy on firearms?

      Do Amish folk permit themselves firearms at all? Are they pacifist by policy, eschewing such things? Are firearms gawdy indulgences, like zippers or visible buttons? Or maybe only guns up to a particular level of technology, like maybe Yeager (or Jaeger, sometimes Jager) guns, but nothing more modern?

      1. avatar FedUp says:

        I don’t know if the various groups differ on this like they do on mechanical power, but the Amish around me do love their deer hunting.

        But peace towards mankind is pretty universal to the Amish. It’s hard to imagine one of them shooting a home invader.

        1. avatar Tim says:

          And, I have heard the Remington 760/7600 (pump action, often in .30 cal) referred to as the “Mennonite Machine Gun.”

          Damn things ding the case necks, though. Reloaded some for a buddy, and each case neck was shaped like a “D”.

      2. avatar Wiregrass says:

        I have no first hand knowledge, but I often hear Amish poaching discussed as a game management problem.

      3. avatar 16V says:

        As with all things “religious” what god “allows” varies highly by circumstance, especially if there’s money to be made. Sold a pickup truck to an Amish guy a few weeks ago, who was driving a pickup truck, with a trailer, and things on it. He had a cell phone, and was dressed like he was “English” (“normal”). His wife was 20 years his junior, and sadly rather attractive from what I could tell under the Amish garb.

        Amish kids on rumspringa are a pretty wild bunch, there’s all the sex, drugs, and rock and roll of a bunch of kids who just got released from solitary confinement. Some “get it out of their system” and return to the cult, others, well, there are kids who escape.

        1. avatar FedUp says:

          The Order near me allows cell phones for business purposes, and diesel (no spark plugs, please) vehicles may be leased, but not owned, for business, and you’ve got to get an English to drive it, no driving for the bearded ones, and no English clothes for anybody not on rumspringa. I’ve seen the womenfolk mowing the church lawn with gas engined push mowers.

          If he’s married and a full church member, he should have a beard, anywhere I’ve seen. You can’t become a full member until you’re of age and married AFAIK.

        2. avatar 16V says:

          This dude was in “English” garb, had a cell, a moustache, Penn plates in the MW, and a host of ‘interesting;’ things about him.

          As long as there is money….

      4. avatar Jim Bullock says:

        Thanks to all for the data.

        Here in “not really New York”, AKA upstate, the pretty significant Amish & Mennonite cohorts have varied and — er — nuanced positions. You can have an Amish build crew show up to put a wrap-around porch on your house. They’ll use electric and gas-power tools, if you own and provide them. The folks who sell produce down the road from my mother’s house in Pennsyltucky show up in reefer equipped trucks, while wearing hand made clothes that show no buttons.

        It’s easy to holler “hypocrisy”, but that’s a shallow, deliberate misunderstanding.

        – It’s doctrine for Christians in general that this world, and humanity are imperfect. Errors of understanding and errors of will are not the calculated dissembling of hypocrisy. So, different Amish groups can legit have different understandings, or fall short of what they know.

        – Also doctrine that human understanding of the revealed intention of the Deity is by definition limited and incomplete. People can get it wrong, with the best intention.

        Personally, the things I find myself admiring most about people who call themselves Amish that I meet are the commitment to live by what they believe, to square dealing, and to do the work, to take care of themselves. Of course, all three honored in the breach, from time to time, by the fallible humans who embody those virtues imperfectly.

        1. avatar 16V says:

          So… they’re as hypocritical as anyone else professing a religious belief, and “good people” who honor their deals and do their work- just like the vast majority of atheists in the world.

        2. avatar LarryinTX says:

          16V, I think you’ve got it!

    3. avatar Sian says:

      I don’t get what the big deal is.

      Suicides outnumber murders precisely EVERYWHERE except perpetually blue big cities.

  19. avatar SteveX says:

    Happy Birthday and Semper Fi brothers.

  20. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

    Think we will see < $500 AKs, again?

    Probably not, but a man can hope can't he… I'm still kicking myself for not buying an Arsenal SGL years ago when they could be had for under $1000.

    1. avatar 16V says:

      Wasn’t that long ago that I was paying $120 for NIB AKs. With inflation and all, one should get a decent Chinese AK for $199-$249.

      1. avatar Raoul Duke says:

        Where? When? The 90’s?

        Your numbers sound way off. If anything it sounds like you got real lucky on prices by people who didn’t know any better and thought they had junk.

        AK’s in the 80’s retail were about $300 give or take a few. Accounting for inflation that would lead to around $600 in today’s market. Also you have to take into account AK’s were not as popular then as they are now so with demand being higher prices will be higher to reflect this.

        1. avatar 16V says:

          Mid ’90s in STL, YMMV. We’d buy them and a coupla spam cans anytime we wanted to go shoot. People often forgot their guns, and it was less than drinkin’ money to grab a new one, rather than go home to get your existing. I had somewhere north of 12 at one point, I forget the exact number, because it’s like asking how many pairs of socks you own…

        2. avatar 16V says:

          To be specific, MAK-90s (Norinco) were $120+sales tax out the door. 880 round 2 spam cans were $79+tax. Yellow-sheet and the 5 minutes to fill it out were less inconvenient than going back home from work.

  21. avatar Patrick says:

    From the Brazilian politician link:
    “In yet another disturbing incident involving guns, a man shot and killed a robber in Rio de Janiero in August after the thief attacked his car in traffic. The man identified as Marcus Cezar Feres Braga had presented a fake identification card showing that he was a Russian consul. However, an investigation revealed that he was a Brazilian lawyer, according to the Sun. Braga was reportedly driving with his wife and daughter when he was attacked by the robber on a motorbike. The robber allegedly smashed the window of Braga’s car with his gun and demanded that the lawyer remove his watch and hand it over. Instead, Braga, who is allegedly skilled in jiu-jitsu, pulled the robber closer, took his gun, and shot him dead.”

    I fail to see how a man protecting the lives of his wife/daughter from a robber who smashed man’s window, pointed a gun at man/wife/daughter, by shooting said robber with robber’s own gun is a “disturbing incident involving guns”. Sad about violence, yes. “Disturbing” as in mass shooting, bombing, burning, etc., not quite.

    1. avatar FedUp says:

      Disturbing that somebody would break out your car window and shove a gun in your face?
      Yep, I’d be pretty disturbed.

      1. avatar Patrick says:

        My point is that it was portrayed as “gun violence”.
        I see it as a defensive shooting.
        Maybe that wasn’t clear.

        1. avatar FedUp says:

          I’m hoping (maybe too optimistically) that the robbery was the ‘gun violence’ there.
          It’s hard to get nuances when the original reporting was probably in Portuguese, but popular opinion (not the same as media opinion) is becoming more pro-gun than the laws down there.

          Widespread violent crime will do that to a person’s thinking. Gee, maybe I should buy a gun, if only I could legally buy a gun…

    2. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Sounds like BS to me. If a guy on a motorbike tries to rob me while I’m driving, I won’t be shooting him, I’ll smack him with my car and then try to run over him.

  22. avatar O2HeN2 says:

    Demand for firearms is going to plummet (the top firearms salesman is leaving his position).

    Firearm companies and distributors, who have ramped up for the current demand, will start to hurt.

    Expect lots of price drops, sales and rebates in the coming years.

    With smaller profit margins, expect innovation to slow, unfortunately.

    Ammo’s a hard call, with all the new gun owners the salesman-in-chief created, it’s hard to tell how many will become actual shooters (that enjoy the sport and continue to shoot) and how many will slide back into just being gun owners (dilettantes). My guess is that ammo will follow the same pattern as for firearms, above.

    It’s going to be difficult to be in the gun industry over the next couple of years. Quite the paradox, eh?


  23. avatar FedUp says:

    I think Mainers, progressive though they might be, are very sensitive to the idea of Bloomberg trying to buy their state’s laws.

  24. avatar Wiregrass says:

    Suicides account for most gun homicides in PA. Gee, maybe we could think about that cost the next time we decide to jump into another overseas conflict. Maybe end one or two that we are already in before we start the next one. Hats off to you veterans today. Thank you for putting it all on the line for your country.

  25. avatar Parnell says:

    As more & more anti-gun laws bite the dust, more & more people will concealed carry and many will need to buy guns. I don’t think sales will plummet because there is a pro-gun President.

  26. avatar Joe R. says:

    “Goliath took a hit” [?]

    finish him

  27. avatar TyrannyOfEvilMen says:

    Both Clinton and Bloomberg discovered that the Beatles were right: Money can’t buy love.

  28. avatar W says:

    Bloomberg and Trump do not like each other.
    The NRA got in on the ground floor with Trump.
    McConnell rolled the dice on Merrick Garland, and won.
    A bullet has officially been dodged.
    The war continues.

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