As Chris Matthews furiously Googles to see if — somehow — the Boston Chechnyan bombing suspects were members of a nascent Tea Party cell in Grozny, we’re getting conflicting information as to how long the suspects have been in the country. The media, in its fog of mal- and mis-information, have mentioned everything from one to ten years since the brothers Tsarnaev immigrated. Be that as it may, the thoughts of pro-2A types turn to the question of how this drama will be used — and make no mistake, it will be — by civilian disarmers to bolster their deeply wounded cause . . .
Is it possible these two were already on the terrorist watch list? If so, how did they pass a background check to buy their firearms? They’ve engaged in at least two firefights this morning, if news reports are to be believed, killing an MIT security guard and gravely wounding a police officer. One apparently also knocked over a 7-11, probably with a handgun. Were their firearms obtained illegally? Clearly all of Massachusetts’ strict gun control laws didn’t prevent two alleged terrorists from tooling up.
Nick took a ration of shit in the comments section for speculating — only minutes after the marathon bombs went off — that the terrorist act could lead to calls for restrictions on reloading components. There’s apparently no truth to the reports that he was last seen running through the streets of San Antonio shouting “neeener neeener neeenr!” when the cadaverous Frank Lautenberg, in what’s hopefully one of his last legislative acts, announced that he’d introduce a gunpowder control bill in the Senate.
Are we speculating based on early, possibly bogus information? You betcha. So go ahead, flame on. But keep an eye on the usual suspects as they contort themselves to make their case that this is all just another example of why we need common sense gun control.
There has already been one report that he has an assault rifle.
I think it would be interesting if he doesn’t have a modern sporting rifle, and everything he has would be mass compliant.
On the flip side, I can imagine a *really* good number of people in Boston thinking “I’m on lockdown….how the heck am I going to defend myself?” We may actually have some future supporters.
Am I the only one seeing MSM firmly and unabashedly calling the 19 year suspect “a man”, yet whenever there is some woe-is-me story 19 year olds are “just kids”.
Expect lots of spin here by the media. Not just on guns but also protecting Obama as this was a Muslim terrorist attack that occurred on his watch after spiking the ‘Osama’s dead’ football so many times.
DHS will be in full “cover your ass” mode. They’ll try and paint these guys as homegrown sympathizers, and that’s how they missed it. However, I’ll bet these guys have made several trips overseas for training and support from an overseas network. The FBI will also be in CYA mode, after failing to identify a guy who had a “Facebook” type page and another one who’s had several articles written about him and his boxing career. These guys didn’t hide very well, were local, had an online & public presence, and still couldn’t be found?
Popular defense at Nuremberg Trials…….
I was just following orders! AKA Superior orders defense.
This did not work then and it will not work now.
We didn’t Nick was immoral for the posting he made after the bombing, just that we need to be better then the other side on covering these things.
I’m about as politically incorrect as it gets, but I do have some respect for the dead and the grieving. I’m not gonna stop reading TTAG because of Nick’s post, but I was worried that it would negatively affect those readers we are trying to pull to our side. Anyone already on our side is already thinking exactly what Nick was, but a posting like that might make those we can influence think we are dancing in the blood of the dead just like the libs do.
It wont matter that these guys made their initial assault with BOMBS just that they made their last stand with guns. I mean why would it matter that they could kill a lot of people without guns and they proved they could, it will only matter that they had guns.
Eh, they’re white enough it will be easy enough to shoehorn through the gap between most American’s ears.
Am I the only one seeing MSM firmly and unabashedly calling the 19 year suspect “a man”, yet whenever there is some woe-is-me story 19 year olds are “just kids”.
At least his EOTech is mounted in the right direction
+1!
The BATFE has previously issued a ruling that “once a machine gun, always a machine gun”. Thus, there is no legal conversion from full auto to semi-auto. The claim that they were in the process of “conversion” to semi-auto is bogus. I’m a former class 3 machine gun dealer, and know the law.
I see some non-compliant magazines there…
Seriously stop trying to take our guns. If something happened here, like is unfolding in Boston… or WW3 breaks out… or overnight, our government becomes liking to tyrants… it’ll be comforting to know our 2nd Amendment and Constitution are firmly in place to offer protection to the citizens of the United States of America.
From the article, “Is it possible these two were already on the terrorist watch list? If so, how did they pass a background check to buy their firearms?”
A bureaucrat placing someone’s name on a “watch list” is NOT due process and is not a sufficient basis to deny anyone of their rights — whether it is their right to speak, vote, or purchase firearms.
These guys had guns,have light skin, and did bad things.They are therefore “white”. Remember how Zimmermanns Latino heritage was left on the cutting room floor?
As to the MSM, I only have this to say;may God,Buddha,and Socrates have mercy on us should we discover these pricks bought their guns face to face.Go directly to ban on Private Transfers,do not pass go, do not collect $200.
I predict that the propagandists will link the guns to some sleepy little town in Maine and lay the blame on gun laws in free states. In fact, I bet they’ve already got the press release written and are salivating to release it.
You can bet your bottom dollar Holder & Obama are, this very minute, scheming a way to use these events to disarm us.
Gunpowder treason and plot
Shall never be forgot!
What a demonstration of the ability of the state at all levels to unify militarily and violate constitutional rights en masse, supported by state media and massive weaponry.
Ban Ohio Blue-tip matches!
So who’s this Utopian Sinclair…? 😉
Technical questions.
Having read there to be a difference in the bolts used in M16’s and semi-auto AR’s, and the bolt being part of what makes an M16 capable of full auto fire, will a bolt for a semi-auto AR work in an M16? And if so, would using a semi-auto bolt functionally convert an M16 into a semi auto?
maybe the Imperial Federal courts will implement Constitutional carry if Illinois cannot come up with something on its own.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
TO: All
RE: Indeed
Now imagine a few thousand armed Americans resisting government tyranny. What are the odds that militarized police could hunt them down? Wolverines? Well exactly. — Robert Farago
Not just a few thousand armed Americans. Consider all the Paratroopers, Rangers, Marines and Special Feces amongst them.
And don’t forget how the New York state Police Benevolent association is telling Governor Cuomo they don’t want to be the ones going up against the armed citizens they have to disarm.
I say….
Let Governor Cuomo lead by example….
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[A martial nobility and stubborn commons, possessed of arms, tenacious of property, and collected into constitutional assemblies form the only balance capable of preserving a free constitution against the enterprise of an aspiring prince. — Gibbon]
If this is their response to a 19 year old dumb-@ass, I cant imagine what they’d do if there was an actual threat.
The 19 yr old was probably trained in Chechnya by jihadists. Don’t forget we train our young men and women in the military at that age as well. In Syria the “rebels” army is made up of many youth in their teens. Never minimize your adversary.
The cops are after one guy, so why are they carrying assault weapons that have only one purpose: to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible. I don’t get it.
Apparently, that weapon is suitable for defense?
There are a lot of left-leaning politicians and Hollywood types who are upset this morning, because the terrorists are not the Great White Hope, 2nd Amendment-loving Americans they were wishing for as the perps. Nope, just the usual Islamist terrorist types.
I didn’t know that (according to their uncle) loner Muslim Chechnians failing to settle in our country were recruited by the NRA. That’s not the NRA MO. Radical Islamic clerics on the other hand….
Media is also pushing the whole where were they trained questions etc.
Can we call them Muslim terrorists now?
If only the guy who was driving the car they hijacked was a CC holder….He could have killed those bastards from the back seat, and given Chris Mathews a huge ulcer.
“Those who don’t see guns adding safety are predictably on the other side of the political aisle — mainly Democrats, liberals and those with higher education.”
52 percent of those polled in their own poll are college grads who think that a gun in the home makes them safer – How can they say that those with higher education support gun control?
And get Ralph a beer too wile your at it!
Mazlow’s Hierarchy of needs…Most of these people think they are at the top of the pyramid (self actualization) and are beyond the first few levels of basic survival, etc. These are the libs who think they are smarter than us working stiffs.
Good work getting this up Robert.
TTAG is making a difference, and the facts speak for themselves.
Intriguingly, an report of an interview with his father, who claimed he was “an angel”, also mentioned that he was a second-year medical student.
Jihad this …bitch
Looking at the pics coming in from the Boston bomber manhunt I see all these LEOs bristling with high-capacity-mag, “assault weapon” looking rifles (wonder how many are full-auto?), bad-ass shotguns, scary black pistols. For two guys … well, one now. (None now. Good show LEOs.)
Thing is, I don’t begrudge the city of Boston a single round. The LEOs, God bless ’em, aren’t taking any chances. But then why should you? Why should you be held to 7 rounds? Or 10. Or any arbitrary number.
Who needs 30-round mags?
“…legions of heavily armed police” felt like they needed them … for two guys. Then one — one guy.
If precaution advises that many trained officers with all that firepower to prepare to take out two baddies — because who knows how heavily armed they are or what they might do — how can we expect a lone homeowner to defend herself against similar unknown threats with seven rounds? Mayor Bloomberg, Governor O’Malley, et al., please, your thoughts?
TTAGers, here’s hoping you never need even one and always have access to a whole lot more.
This! WELL SAID.
I keep expecting Jeff Dunham to pop out from behind Biden and be like “JUST KIDDING!”
Joe Biden’s momma is the reason he hates guns!
Hope Chris spoke to the various police organizations around the state. You see, if they actually pass this stupid law, Ronnie Barrett is going to stop selling them to NJ police just like he did to California.
Sooo it’s a shotgun that comes with lots of extra parts?