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Last week we noted that following the Covenant School shooting in Nashville, Volunteer State Gov. Bill Lee couldn’t manage to get his “red flag” introduced in the legislature, let alone get it passed. The law would allow the confiscation of guns without due process. After the session ended, Gov. Lee then called for a special session to consider the red flag laws at the end of summer.

Why the delay in such an “important” issue? Lee wants to give the mainstream media and the gun control lobby the entire summer to harass and pummel legislators into supporting the measure.

Right on cue, here come some naïve Tennessee public school students to offer their learned views about guns and gun rights . . .

WKRN has the agitprop story . . .

Months after the Covenant School shooting, the debate over arming staff inside schools continues.

“I constantly have to ask the question, ‘Is this a day that a maniac with a gun comes into our schools? Is this a day? Is this our last day?’ We’re asking that within institutions that are supposed to protect us, sort of supposed to build us up,” said Seamus Purdy with the Tennessee Student Union.

Seamus clearly has the heart of a lion. Who taught him to “constantly” worry about a maniac coming into his school to kill people? Like racism, that kind of paranoia doesn’t come naturally, but is learned.

Following the shooting, calls for change were heard loud and clear both inside and outside the State Capitol….

Some proposed stricter gun laws to keep guns out of the hands of potential deadly mass shooters, while others suggested increasing the number of school resource officers and the possibility of arming teachers.

“More guns is not the solution when guns themselves have been the common denominator in all of these issues,” Purdy argued.

Purdy has much to learn. Not only are good guys with guns a viable solution, but they are the most effective solution to protecting our most valuable and precious assets – our children – from maniacs, terrorists and violent criminals.

Good guys with guns protect politicians, business leaders, and celebrities. Guns protect our money in banks and precious metals and gemstones in jewelry stores. Good guys with guns protect sensitive public places like courthouses and the White House.

What’s more, millions of Americans carry guns on a daily basis for their personal defense.

Yet young Seamus opines that more guns are not the solution. Maybe putting up more gun-free zone signs — the ones that criminals, terrorists, and lunatics so freely ignore — will do the trick.

Maybe someday Seamus and his little friend will understand what about 100 million Americans have come to understand: the only thing that stops bad people with evil in their hearts is a good guy or gal with a gun.

Along those lines, how many schools with armed staff have had students shot or killed during school hours? Anyone?

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        • It should be obvious those two gung-ho snot nosed twits do not know History Confirms their beloved Gun Control agenda is Rooted in Racism and Genocide.

          That is because most Gun Owners have failed miserably to Define Gun Control by its History. Instead most gun owners are zipped lipped do-it-for-me types who send money to orgs. that dance around the History of Gun Control every now and then for the choir.

          Until the word on the street is Gun Control is as Racist as its sidekicks nooses and slave shacks continue to see more brain dead Gun Control History illiterate twits on a path to bury The Second Amendment.

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  2. Our country is doomed unless these young people get off their rear ends and get some guts and stand up and fight. the best thing to do and it doesn’t cost a thing is to get rid of the gun free zones. if they don’t get rid of the gun free zones people will continue to die. it is a simple solution to let law abiding citizens carry guns everywhere, just because you walk into a school or a courthouse doesn’t mean all of a sudden you become crazy and shoot people where do they get this stupid idea at? wake up Governor Lee we moved to Tennessee because we thought you had more brains than some of the other governors. and tell these young people to quit being sissies and Karen’s about everything.

    • Since the Liberal Democrats were allowed to take over and destroy the Public Education system decades ago. Because parents ceded the complete education to the Indoctrination of their children with Liberal and as of late Progressive Democrat ideologies. What is being witnessed is the culmination of their failure to properly oversee the education of said children. which has resulted in the skulls full of mush, that can’t read, write, do simple math, comprehend science. Have a complete understanding of our nation, it’s history or how it’s government was designed to work. The problems being faced lie directly at the feet of the parents and the people who were supposed to protect and educate the children to be successful members of society.

      • It all started with proud g@y men like Tom Ammiano. Who Didn’t like the children of the citizen’s learning to shoot in school. So he got elected to the SF school board. With the publicly stated purpose, to shut down the. Shooting teams and 2A education in the schools.

        People like him don’t want the citizens children to learn about their civil rights and the responsibilities that go with them.

        • But the demand that when children speak about any leftwing BS from lopping of parts, to “climate change”, to Trump did it” we must listen to the little “skulls full of mush”.

          NO Don’t care what some little kid “thinks”. They don’t.

      • I agree 100%. if I had kids in school today I’d probably be in jail because I would not put up with any of the stuff that’s going on. the teachers don’t teach the kids anything that they need to know for life. the degradation started when they took God out of schools

        • Over 500 years ago Martin Luther said everyone should read The Bible. Most of Christianity would later became the religion that promoted literacy to the entire population.

          With a literate population and exchanging of ideas the West, would later become extremely advanced far ahead of other societies.

          And like it or not atheists have always been against the population reading The Bible. In or out of school.

          It was the atheists who were demanding books be removed from the school. Religious books such as The Bible.

          Which I have never understood. Because if you don’t believe The Bible is the word of God? Then the Bible is just an ordinary book. And why Would you be afraid of an ordinary book????

        • Precisely why my wife and I have homeschooled all of our kids. They’ve outscored their public school peers on standardized testing over and over again. It’s a better education that focuses on what is important to learn rather than indoctrination.

      • More like 175isn years ago. Democrat President Anrew Jackson created the first Department of Education. Later administrations combined it into other departments, limiting its reach.
        Then the Peanut Farmer separated it in 79, creating the monstrocity we all know an loathe today.
        Really, it should be called the Department of Imbecility.

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        • BR, more like the department of standardized mediocrity.

          Pulling everyone down to the lowest common level.

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    • I live in NY State and was seriously thinking about moving to Tennessee to get away from the leftist insanity – now I have my doubts.

      • why would you have any doubts? we left Pennsylvania after 64 years and it’s not near as bad as New York is, and I wouldn’t think of moving back. we love it here in Tennessee. and I doubt very much if red flag laws will prevail here.

  3. Hey if they try hard enough they may get their wish. There will be absolutely no guns in school, in the hands of people that don’t want to kill kids that is.

    …the people that want to hurt the kids will be the only ones at the school with any guns, how fortunate those kids may be to get the honour of dying for some adult’s insipid beliefs.

    …well, except for the ersatz criminals that government created that disobey the obscenely stupid law so that they could protect those same kids when real murderers show up to do the damage.

  4. Did Randi Weingarten (teacher union prez) tell Ukraine that more guns wouldn’t help them? Is that why she made that visit? I love the student union commie fist logo. It’s very original. I’m sure it’s a coincidence. They’re totally apolitical, right?

  5. The kids should be asking why the elites children, and their money, are protected by cops with guns.

    Americas subservient classes are kept pretty ignorant of their status. Often bizarrely proud of their subservient status.

    They did a good job deflecting all that ire toward the 1% off onto nonsense like 57 genders, invisible racism, the average temperature of a 5 billion year old planet over a 20 year timespan and the actions of oversees boogeymen as reported by media outlets owned by that 1%. All causes that just happen to be making the wealth of that 1% ever greater and the savings and buying power of the 99% ever lesser.

    Everything they push is designed to keep you from getting ahead and they want you disarmed just incase you figure that out.

    • From the 99% to Occupy Wall Street to BLM the redirection away from central banks took less than a decade to make a financial resources issue a racism issue.

      • People forget the Occupy protests happened under Obama. His wingman was working for the financial sector. Pivoting to “racism” was a brilliant move (if you hate this country).

        • Cannot have the peasants noticing the disparity of inflation vs productivity vs relative wages.

    • “bizarrely proud of their subservient status”

      They cheer celebrity activists like Matt Damon who advocates for government schooling while sending his own children to private schools.

  7. Firearms are even used to protect sicko hypocrite Gun Control zealots like mini mike bloomberg…what a waste.

  8. “More guns is not the solution when guns themselves have been the common denominator in all of these issues,’ Purdy argued.”

    it isn’t more guns, its guns in the hands of people with willingness to protect the students.

    Think about it, you send your kids to school and who protects them then from the only common denominator in mass shootings which is mental illness driving that mass shooter?

    its not the guns doing school shootings, its the mentally ill person driven by their mental illness.

    Yet you want to remove the only capability known to stop that violent mental illness threat cold in that imminent moment when they start pulling the trigger. Are you insane?

    you don’t really care about saving kids, you only care about using it as an excuse to infringe a constitutional right of millions of law abiding people who have done nothing.

  9. I’m sorry, guns in school are not a solution. They are a bandaid. While horrific to think about, our problems are not nearly as simple to solve as arming teachers.

    This is the problem with the right and the left. While this is a gun-centric forum, has anyone seen legitimate, credible attempts from either side to bring our country back?

    And having spent years in another country, being aware of, and on the alert for violence that may occur, is because it has to be learned if you don’t intend to be a victim here. So it’s not just because an element of society crams violent evidence down our throats daily. It happens, most of it happens at a far higher rate here, and it’s abnormal in a society.

    We need to do better as individuals at everything to fix what this Country has become. Better voting, better parenting, and so on. To push hardened schools as a solution is a way for politicians to say they did something, without actually addressing our problems. And we let them do it. Our politicians haven’t done hard work in decades, and won’t until we demand it.

    • To even begin addressing some of what you are getting at (and you are right over the target) television, social media, and education would all have to come under intense scrutiny and eliminate all operant conditioning, propaganda, and guided messaging (far more things to look for but strych9 has a way more complete list) that our population is exposed to and keep the standards in place for at least 2 if not 3 generations just to get most of the population able to function in their own best interests.

      • yes, school hardening would go a long way. but, even then, its been shown that they sometimes still get in.

        • Yes because lazy teachers and staff prop open doors that lock automatically when closed and such to circumvent security for their convenience. Working in IT before I retired it was almost always the human element that allowed good security protocols to be bypassed because of laziness and ineptness.

    • @D Y

      you either missed or ignored a lot in all this. I can’t figure out of you are completely ignorant in many aspects of thus or naive.

      Tell me…a mass shooter aiming at you, are you going to preach to them your ignorant ideas or you going to think…’gee, how do I stop this.” ?

      well, I’m telling you from personal experience, and based upon the experience of millions annually, when that deadly force evil confronts you in that imminent moment there simply is not any other way except to respond with deadly force to ensure that threat is stopped. Yet you don’t want the kids in schools to have that available to protect them in that imminent moment?

      bandaid or not in your opinion, it works. And maybe when your left wing starts dealing with the mental illness, and stops trying to make every place in the world a gun free zone that does nothing but attracts these mentally ill predators, and stops using the threat of taking away rights of law abiding people who have done nothing wrong, and stops diverting the efforts to do something into a perverted tyrannical rights taking… maybe then we can get back to solving the problem. But until then, when it happens it needs to be stopped when that mentally ill school shooter imminent threat appears and the best and most sure way of doing that are the armed personnel in the schools.

      • Could be wrong but got the sense he was hinting at the deeper level causes of our social decay for which the various issues with violence would be one symptom of many.

        • maybe maybe not…but the touchy feely ‘talk about this or that’s does absoluty zero to stop that mentally ill school shooter imminent threat when it appears. And it is not only wrong but barbaric and cruel and perverted and insane to deny these kids that availability of armed source of defense in that imminent moment.

        • True and whatever approach is taken fortifying the schools will be necessary for at least a full generation regardless of how the propaganda and psychological issues play out assuming everything got fixed perfectly just to let the current crop of monsters age out of being viable threats.

    • You’re in a room with an armed murderer.
      Do you want a gun in that situation or not?

      Sometimes simple is, in fact, simple.

    • Here’s the thing about band-aids: they’re useful while working on the root problem. If you never plan on addressing the root problem, then band-aids are imperative for survival. Do you think the folks who currently control our institutions and culture are interested in addressing the root problems in society? You know, the people who are aggressively degrading our culture? The people inserting draggg_queens into cartoons? The people putting on “family friendly” draggg_shows where scantily clad men dressed as women simulate sodomy, give lap dances, and encourage children to participate or give them money like they’re strippers? You’re willing to go without the band-aid because you’re waiting on those people to address the real problem?

      • As others gathered, my point is that our problem is societal, not guns. Guns are not the solution to a society that is raising kids to think that violence is the norm, acceptable, and that human life has no value. Not to mention the “it’s just property” crowd, constant assaults on our liberty from elected officials, and so on that result from kids growing up to have no morals, and voting.

        Of course you can stop a mass shooting with a gun. Of course it’s prudent to carry a firearm for defense of self and family (and of course we are so litigious we have to think hard about defense of others). But we aren’t to this point naturally. Anyone who argues that in general we have less crime problems overall now than in the past, and it’s less thought about, isn’t being honest. As violence increases, the need for individuals to have guns increases…but that’s not the outcome we should accept or desire.

        It isn’t naive to think that our problems are more deeply rooted than school shootings. It’s naive to focus on that and rail continuously about it as if that is all that is needed. At massive taxpayer expense, that may well fix that specific problem…but then there is Las Vegas, Wal-Mart, the mall, theaters, or anywhere else you like to think about that shooters have chosen. Great…we aren’t killing at school. Problem solved? Absolutely not. It already manifests elsewhere.

        Hardening schools is more akin to a tourniquet than a bandaid. It’s a necessary evil under current conditions. But you have to look at why you needed a tourniquet, to prevent future use of the tourniquet (of whatever you are addressing). Without addressing the root problems things are going to get worse for everyone. Schools are now safe? We still have to contemplate and think through getting carjacked at a stoplight. Having our homes invaded. Being caught in the crossfire of gangland thugs shooting at each other. Our property being stolen in broad daylight. Being assaulted by a strung out junkie. And so on. Many of which have very little to no connection with firearms. If you think these are not all inter-related to school shootings, THAT’S naivety.

        I generally do not like comparing the US to other nations, but when it comes to basic society, there are some valuable conclusions to be made, ESPECIALLY against those who want to take our freedom away. A significant number of societies (not even constrained to first world) do not have the same non-firearm problems we do, at least nowhere near the same rates. If violence rates are far lower in these countries, are there things they do that we could adopt to our way of life? People are not being somehow coerced or misled to believe that life here is dangerous. Statistically it is when compared to many, many other countries. For a long period I’d argue the majority of the US population, outside of wartime, thought far less about safety and security than we do today on a daily basis. And I guarantee we spend far more time thinking, worrying, and trying to address crime than those in other nations.

        In my lifetime I’ve felt the shift, and having lived elsewhere, it’s hard to relax and let go of our ingrained assumption of potential threats everywhere. That’s a sad state when you live among those who don’t exhibit anxiety about crime and violence. And again. That’s not due to the presence or absence of firearms.

        • I can’t help but notice that your long 6 paragraph response to my brief comment avoided the question I posed. Furthermore, you never offered your alternative solution. Otherwise, you’re preaching to the choir.

        • Newspapers have a long history of not publishing personal suicides because of the well-documented science that it likely causes other suicides among people that are on the edge. There are no laws about this on the newspapers but rather the public peer pressure not to do it.

          Yet, now days, there is the hyped up 24/7 cable news and internet flood of publicity about mass shooters when it has been shown over and over that future mass shooters feed off the publicity. One could certainly make the argument that the media highlighting of these mass killing events are spurring on more killings. Where is the public and private pressure on these outlets to stop feeding the beast? The snuffing of info about Hunters laptop has demonstrated that the news and tech industry can effectively snuff out the news.

          So why isn’t there an effort to try this no-cost solution… the cynic/realist in me would answer that the Left doesn’t want the killings to stop because they want to use that to void the 2ndA.

  11. dj…Gun Control zealots push to keep Schools unarmed as a solution and to add insult to injury they hung criminal inviting Gun Free Zone signs around schools. And when a murderous perp shows up they blame firearm manufacturers, the NRA and law abiding citizens for a perp who criminally misused a firearm. Not a beep from the same Gun Control loving sickos when a perp criminally misuses a bat, knife, vehicle, etc.
    In other words…No matter what, The Second Amendment is never to be laid at the feet of those carrying around a deranged agenda that History Confirms is Rooted oin Racism and Genocide.

  12. As to be expected T Tag will not post this opposing viewpoint or simply delay posting it until the article is way down on the list, they are not fooling anyone who logs on to this forum. T Tag screams constantly about 2A rights and uses every opportunity to suppress or destroy the 1st Amendment so when they scream “brainwashing” by the Left who is brainwashing whom?????

    quote————-Why the delay in such an “important” issue? Lee wants to give the mainstream media and the gun control lobby the entire summer to harass and pummel legislators into supporting the measure.———quote

    Of course, the pressure has to be put on the far right Republican prostitutes of the NRA to make them realize their ass is on the line in the next election because they know the majority of people want some sane gun laws passed.

    quote———–Seamus clearly has the heart of a lion. Who taught him to “constantly” worry about a maniac coming into his school to kill people? Like racism, that kind of paranoia doesn’t come naturally, but is learned.———-quote

    Seamus has a computer, a cell phone and a TV, no one on the Left is brainwashing him he knows the deadly reality of a nation that refuses to pass sane gun laws and lets children get slaughtered constantly by maniacs with assault rifles and short barreled assault rifles with braces mislabeled pistols.

    quote———Purdy has much to learn. Not only are good guys with guns a viable solution, but they are the most effective solution to protecting our most valuable and precious assets – our children – from maniacs, terrorists and violent criminals.——–quote

    Arming teachers is both assine and ludicrous. Most teachers are not gun nuts and abhor them. The danger of an accidental discharge with them is high and many just refuse to carry deadly weapons. Only 3% of schools permit teachers carrying guns proving how unpopular this idea is both with the Schools and the Teachers. A teacher would hesitate to shoot someone giving the maniac the added time to shoot the teacher first.

    Since the Far Right Republicans are prostitutes of the NRA they have succeeded in breeding an entire generation of children who are terrorized by guns and hate all guns with a passion and they are going to be tomorrow’s politicians and legislators which after untold thousands of unnecessary deaths will finally put an end to the wholesale slaughter of our children brought on by the out of control paranoid gun madness of the Far Right.

    • Tell us, asshole, how many schools with armed staff have experienced school shootings?

      I’ll wait. But I won’t hold my breath.

      • to the Man with no sense

        There are 115,576 schools in the U.S. and only 3% have armed teachers you complete Moron so do the math and you find that with this small a per centage of schools with armed teachers this means that the majority of school shootings will probably be with the majority of schools that have no armed teachers. Even a 5th grader could figure out that. Your foolish right wing propaganda is ludicrous.

      • to Jethro the depraved stalking janitor

        Our forum high school dropout was too lazy and indolent to verify the facts which I gave him, which are that there are 115,576 schools and only 3% are armed.

    • dacian the demented dips**t,

      Yeah, I’m TOTES sure the voters in Tennessee are going to PUNISH their legislators at the polls next election for (*checks notes*) not passing unconstitutional gun control laws (that also violate due process). In TENNESSEE??????? How f***ing stupid are you, you retarded planaria????

      Tell us, dacian the brainless, did yo mama have any children, from her ‘extracurricular’ activities, that actually survived?????

      You are absurdly stupid, lacking in even the FAINTEST idea of politics, couldn’t deal with logic if you even knew what it was, and couldn’t pass even a “modern” civics test. You are an encephalic, yearning to be a moron.

  13. They need fathers to see them on TV, hem them up a pimp slap them the taste out of their faces… There are No real fathers anymore!

  14. Seamus, seeing that a jackass like David “HANDJOB” Hogg got a free ride to Harvard based on anti-2A BS, wanted to get an Ivy League “scholarship” for himself.

    • Yes, Hoggie has done so much, such as :
      Got accepted with an SAT score of 1270 when most rejections average around 1460.
      With a full boatride scholorship, only managed a single-major degree upon graduating….a stinking B/A… in History!
      Thanked his dead classmates for making it all possible, but forgot to thank the shooter!
      Gave Tom Hanks a thumbs-up during his commencement speech when he bragged about his honorary doctorate.
      This loser has an almost guarenteed place somewhere in education or politics.

      • That/any Harvard sheepskin is total cranp today.

        Automatic HELL NO for any lawyer/pol with a Harvard/Yale indoctrination degree.

  15. “More guns is not the solution when guns themselves have been the common denominator in all of these issues,” Purdy argued.”
    Can’t see the forest for the trees or in this case can’t see the human holding the gun because the gun blocked the view!

  17. How sad and stupid of the governor. Maybe if a teacher or staff was armed the perp would have been neutralized before causing any harm or simply decided that the risk was not work taking in the first place.

    • He grasping and the incorrect idea that this “compromise” will be enough for the banners. Only when the intellectually and morally strong and resolute realize that there is no compromise good enough for the Marxists on the Left will we be able to make headway.

      When you give in, they simply demand more and more and more until there’s nothing left to give.

      • Yep, Canadians learned that when the black face tyrant up north decided to come after the guns they thought were safe from bans but the banners are never happy.

  18. gun free zones, defined:

    “gun (gŭn) free (frē) zone (zōn)

    * Trap in which people congregate and are falsely promised safety by a make believe force field of a ‘No Guns” prohibition.

    * A place where people are disarmed and not permitted self-defense with firearms.

    * Hunting grounds for predator criminals where defenseless prey is guaranteed by law.

    * Place where existing laws against violent crimes do not work to prevent violent crimes the laws are touted to be able to prevent.

    * Places designed to attract violently mentally ill predators.

    * Places where police forces cease to operate to protect before the fact of a violent crime as they are touted to be able to do by politicians implying.

    In the Journal of Threat Assessment and Management, 7(3-4), 135–156. (Lankford, A., & Cowan, R. G. (2020)) ( https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Ftam0000151 )

    … Cowan writes of their research they “…closely analyzed public mass shooters who attacked in the United States from 1966 to 2019 and found that correlates of mental illness were approximately equally common among perpetrators, whether they had been coded as mentally ill or not.”

    Forensic psychiatrists James L. Knoll IV, MD, and George D. Annas, MD, MPH, of SUNY Upstate Medical University in Syracuse New York, both leading authorities on the mental health aspects of mass shooters, summed it up for the issue for the mental health community various studies on various aspects in terms of mass shooters…. Although mass shooters may not meet DSM-5 criteria for a recognized disorder, “they do have an ill-defined trouble of the mind for which the mental health field has no immediate, quick-acting ‘treatment,’” – in other words, mass shooters do have mental illness driving them but not something clearly defined and for which the mental health community basically has no treatment.”

  19. As long as Ignorance of what Laws do and don’t do, this mentality will exist. Logic and Reason are no longer part of the curriculum
    Laws Do Not Prevent Crime.
    Laws are there to Punish the Transgressor. That is the limit of the Law. Its other limit is that your only punished if you’re caught.

    It’s illegal to exceed the Speed Limit, yet millions of drivers do so every day. Most, consider themselves Law Abiding Citizens.
    If the over 20,000 Gun Laws on the books don’t prevent Criminal Misuse, Why the F**k would you think another “Law” will fix the problem? Obviously, it Won’t.

  21. Tennessee fares far worse than many other states, ranking 11th in overall gun violence. Between 2011-2020, gun deaths skyrocketed 48% in Tennessee, homicides increased 103% and suicides increased 20%.

    Tennessee now averages 1,273 gun deaths and 2,220 gun injuries annually, which is the leading cause of death among children and teenagers. Within two weeks of the tragedy in Uvalde, Texas, two mass shootings occurred in Chattanooga, leaving three people dead and over 20 injured.

    Outside of the horrific emotional toll, gun violence costs Tennesseans $9 billion dollars a year.

    • “which is the leading cause of death among children and teenagers. ”

      been debunked. basically the numbers include adults 18 and 19, plus they include gang on gang violence. guns are not responsible for those, gang on gang violence is common crime, and 18 and 19 year olds are not children or teens but rather adults under law. once common crime and 18 and 19 year olds are removed the leading cause of death among children and teenagers is car accident.

        • also, partially debunking the child and teen numbers lie you bring up… in the video below, a short segment, shows the source of this lie was a CDC number of 7.1 kids a day and they (CDC) flat out say it includes 18 and 19 year olds (which under law are not children or teens but instead are adults). guns being “the leading cause of death among children and teenagers” is a lie. when the adults and common crimes are removed, or even just the adults, the leading cause of child and teen deaths is car accident.

    • “More Guns, More Gun Crime”

      Correlation something something causation. And what is “gun crime?” You mean criminal violence, don’t you? The guns are not responsible.

      “ranking 11th in overall gun criminal violence.”

      Source for these statistics?

      “Outside of the horrific emotional toll, gun criminal violence costs Tennesseans $9 billion dollars a year.”

      How does it “cost?” Specifics, please — or be dismissed as just another troll like Liar69er. “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

    • Oh, COOL STORY, BRO!!!! Now tell us the stats for Tennessee, OUTSIDE of Nashville and Memphis. Oh, by the way, you brainless tw*t, what party are they from. Does you mother know you are using her computer??

      Go play bumper tag with a semi, or join MajorLiar’s afternoon circle jerk, you pathetic idiot.

    • @More Guns, More Gun Crime

      You got some if not all of your BS from here > https://everystat.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Gun-Violence-in-Tennessee.pdf

      A document produced by EveryTown, a gun control/anti-gun/gun-ban organization. Its full of false information, mischaracterizations, biased and debunked information.

      Notice the term used in the document ‘societal cost’ – which is used to arrive at the figure in your false statement of “gun violence costs Tennesseans $9 billion dollars a year.”

      ‘societal cost’ in relation to the false term ‘gun violence’ was a term invented by Everytown. Its one for which they do not release how they calculated their ‘societal cost’ in relation to the false term ‘gun violence’, but some information has been discovered. Some of their ‘societal cost’ includes a lot of ‘people said’ stuff. In other words they make it up and thrown in any thing, for example, if a politician says ‘it cost something for police to respond to a crime’ Everytown attaches the label ‘gun violence’ to it even if there was no gun and assigns it a value they make up.

      And the whole of that document and your post is nothing but pure false.

      Oh, and by the way the ‘More Guns = More Gun Crime’ lie has also been debunked several times by independent research. More crime happens because the number of criminals has increased and fewer criminals fear the legal system now because the left-wing has basically legalized crime by not prosecuting it.

  23. Meanwhile in Yamhill County Oregon, Dillon Cashman was just acquitted on attempted murder charges stemming from an incident where police officers responding to a domestic disturbance call were greeted by a hail of gunfire. Some 243 rounds were fired from a half dozen weapons, ventilating the surrounding houses.

  24. “Guns protect our money in banks…”

    Now that’s an understatement. The Reserve Bank of Australia, Brisbane, in the late 1960’s. A friend asked me to get some Crowns for him. A silver 5 shilling coin, minted in 1936 and ’37 – not in general circulation but still legal tender. I was taken down to the basement. “Stand here till I get them for you”. Elevator doors to my right opened. Chap wheeled out a platform dolly with sacks of coinage, and a Thompson sub-machine gun laying on top of them. Yup, guns guard our money all right.

  25. Didn’t see anyone else mention that the killer specifically chose that school after extensive scouting of it and several other locations including other schools and malls, some of which were on ‘her’ target list for follow up attacks. WHY was that school chosen? Because There Was NO Armed Security on the campus.

    • +1
      That answers the question right there in a nutshell. Maybe wouldn’t stop the shooting but at least they’d move on from selecting schools, and hit the next biggest gun free zone

  26. There is supportive evidence that shall-issue concealed-carry laws may increase total and firearm homicides. Evidence for the effect of permitless-carry laws on total homicides is inconclusive. Evidence that shall-issue concealed-carry laws may increase violent crime is limited.

    Key Findings
    Shall-issue concealed-carry laws may
    increase total and firearm homicides. Evidence for this relationship is supportive.

    At least three studies not compromised by serious methodological weaknesses found suggestive or significant effects in the same direction using at least two independent data sets.

    • Wow, how much mileage do you think you can get from a FLAWED study, intended to find a predetermined conclusion, that COULDN”T FIND ANY EVIDENCE??? (Since you’re too stupid to know this, when an intentionally-skewed study can AT BEST find “evidence” that is “suggestive” or “supportive”??? That is lying academic speak for “if you let us massage our data enough, we’re pretty sure we can make an argument that we like from it”.

      Dude, either go learn something about “studies” and statistics, or (better yet) just STFU.

  27. someday when their brains are allowed to think for themselves they will hopefully get it!

  30. I spent 40 years in the high security arena. I love it when snot-nosed children whose brains are still undeveloped and they have no sense of real life, real people and what happens when you give up your Rights to self-defense, both of yourself and the country. Dopes! The Republicans have proposed ways to fix the school problem but the Democrats keep shooting these down. The Democrats like school shootings and will not do anything except call for more gun control, until they call for confiscation. That is their objective and the lives of children, to them, are noble sacrifices worth the loss as long as their ideology is fed fodder to “justify” gun confiscation and the end of the Republic.

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