Student survivors of last week’s school massacre learned first-hand how emotions don’t always trump logic and science yesterday in the Florida House. As the students stood in the gallery, Sunshine State legislators there showed little sign of allowing emotional teenagers to sway them into banning guns and standard capacity magazines. The lopsided 36-71 vote against the ban leaves the legislation dead for now. From the UK Independent:
Florida state lawmakers have rejected a bill that would ban [police patrol type] rifles, less than a week after 17 people were killed in a shooting at a Florida high school.
The Florida House voted 36-71 against a motion to consider legislation to outlaw [police patrol type] rifles and [standard] capacity magazines, effectively killing the bill for the time-being, according to the Associated Press.
The vote came as members of Congress, state legislators, governors and student survivors of the Parkland shooting called for tougher gun control laws.
…Students from the high school had travelled to the State House in Tallahassee to watch the vote. They looked on from the gallery as their lawmakers voted against considering the bill, according to Local10 News.
However, today marks another day as these same Soros-linked organizers attempt to use those same survivors to coax the Florida Senate for a vote to ban guns.
That’s right: gun control proponents are busing these students 400 miles to the Florida capitol building, shamelessly using these young people as pawns to advance racist, sexist and classist gun control measures.
Unfortunately, Florida senators withdrew a bill to allow trained volunteers or school staff to carry concealed firearms in schools. From WTSP:
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. – A bill that would arm trained volunteers or school employees inside the state’s public schools has been withdrawn from consideration by a Senate committee.
Sen. Dennis Baxley, R-Ocala, authored SB 1236 in Dec. Before Wednesday’s shooting that left 17 people dead at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, the proposal had not been scheduled for consideration by any of the three committees to which it had been assigned.
The bill, which would have allowed a principal to designate someone to carry firearms on public school campuses, was scheduled to be heard Tuesday but was pulled late Friday night.
Sen. Greg Steube, the committee chairman, issued the decision after several top senators said they were opposed to considering the bill.
…”More guns is not the solution to gun violence,” said Jan Neuberger, a member of the Moms Demand Action St. Petersburg chapter.
Like most nations, we defend political leaders, celebrities and other VIPs with guns. In addition, we defend sporting events, government buildings, stores, utility plants, and courts with firearms. Furthermore, we even protect valuables such as cash and jewelry with guards with guns.
But Moms Demand Action and other gun control groups don’t think we should protect our most precious and vulnerable members of our society with guns. What’s wrong with protecting our precious children with guns?
Busing them in and sending crisis actors to cry on CNN. Pathetic.
Congratulations on actually sounding crazier and dumber than the anti-gun people…
They are wrong and being used but the students are not actors. Cut the crap with the infowars insanity talk.
You can make a snow-flake, in FL, but you can’t make them cool enough to affect legislation.
JB-
You left the punchline off the “we defend” list:
And when there’s an issue/incident, we call people with guns to respond.
“What’s wrong with protecting our precious children with guns?”
It shows the utility of guns. As you know, we have the philosophical and legal high ground. We also have the backing of science, if one is to validate the social sciences with such a label. They have the common sense (intuitive, but unreasoning views of a situation) solutions, the media, and a lot of knee jerk support.
If people are convinced on an innate level that guns don’t cause any higher degree of danger than most everyday items and do prevent violence, then we win.
That’s what’s wrong with defending children as well as politicians and celebrities.
“They have the
common senseemotional (intuitive, but unreasoning views of a situation) solutions, the media, and a lot of knee jerk support.”FTFY.
Good.
I just watched the remarks by students at the Fl. school where the shooting occurred and two things come to mind.
What compliant Leftists the government education system are turning out,from what I just witnessed I’m thinking 21 isn’t enough perhaps age 25.
The assault weapons ban was designed as a wedge issue to split the GOP from gun owner support. It’s a trap that ended up backfiring since the Democrats driving it couldn’t make a logical argument for keeping the gun ban (especially when it was proven to have no effect on mass shootings).
The unfortunate outcome of the gop even appearing to support an awb is that it leaves 2nd amendment minded voters nowhere to turn. This will rob the gop of critical support, leaving seats to democrats and ultimately creating more gun control.
Since no one has explained how gun control can affect spree shootings, those will still be a sad fact of life.
Terrible state of affairs. Praying for all of them.
Just another case of ‘It’s a bright, sunny, day, all the way up until it wasn’t’.
Who wants to place a bet that there was a restraining order?
This proves we can stop anti-gun legislation but it’s almost impossible to stop a bureaucratic agency acting unilaterally in direct opposition to the Constitution, especially endorsed by a so-called Republican president. The NRA’s (and now Trump’s) 12-dimensional Russian Roulette is going to backfire and cost us much more than just bumpstocks…
Nice work, FL’ers.
Here is a club with which to beat the gun grabbers over the head: You care about 17 dead high school students and teachers. So do we. But we also care about 17 people killed, one by one, in everyday violent crimes because they were forbidden the tools they needed to defend themselves. You don’t care at all about those victims.
Ok, so, everybody go with the 40 S&W.
Because it’s ‘snappy’.
Moms Demand Slavery is all about children dying so they can disarm the populace. That has always been the end game.
This is all well and good.
But we either get rid of schools being gun free zones or we expect more of these killings. There are way to many good people willing to step up with their own guns to defend our kids and schools to allow that resource to go to waste.
It’s time for the crazy russian Serges helicopter rides to start. Any pol or pundit that opposes protecting our kids with guns needs a ride.
A man pistol whipping a woman is the bad guy. Period.
That’s when you unscrew the pommel of your sword and end him rightly.
That is the most stale over used sword joke there is. It’s so bad that it might be okay once, this not being Skallagrim or Scholagladiatoria. Next time I make a voodoo doll though.
I can think of a few women that I would not assume was the victim in that circumstance.
There IS a place where kids are safe in school. It’s called “1950’s America”. The 1950’s were the most “conforming” decade in American history. There were no mass shootings of which I am aware. Nobody except hikers wore backpacks and school kids carried their books under their arm, not in a bag. Loose clothing was limited to winter wear in cold climates.
And GUNS? You could purchase an M1 Carbine and 20 round magazines and ammo through the mail, no questions asked. And it would be a be delivered to you by our friendly United States Post Office.
In researching the question of “there never used to be mass shootings,” I discovered there have been mass shootings in every decade of the 20th century. The feds didn’t keep track until the mid 70’s.
I do know there was a school massacre in colonial America. I couldn’t find out any details to know whether or not it was part of a political conflict. In the 20s a dude blew up a school. That’s still the largest school murder.
Mom’s Demand Action don’t want armed gaurds in school because they think wishful thinking would protect children. The problem with MDA is that it is an organization of women; and, gosh, how should I put this gently…. women as a class don’t know shit about protecting society because it has been men as a class who’s been shouldering that burden. Is anybody surprised that “just so” wishful thinking about removing guns =(!) less gun violence? They are a few millenia too late to come in now, and lecture us about how to keep watch.
The problem with MDA is that it is an organization of women… not really as the parent organizations are run by men seeking A New World Order.
But Moms Demand Action and other gun control groups don’t think we should protect our most precious and vulnerable members of our society with guns. What’s wrong with protecting our precious children with guns?
Without special snowflake victims, the Liberals cannot advance their gun control program leading to a further agenda for A New World Order. The Liberals love the kiddies getting killed; this is why they fanatically resist hardening schools and arming faculty.
Wow! Universal Background Checks and stricter gun control legislation for gun owners are really going to solve the problem. School security is crap and all the mentally deranged individuals know they are easy targets.
Why stop there? Why not two whole bandoliers full of happy sticks, one over each shoulder?
I carry seven rounds in the weapon, and seven rounds in a spare mag. If that’s not enough, then I had better work on my people skills.
Well, much depends on Trumps ‘flexibility’ in giving the stalinists what they want…he seems (and I very much hope only seems) to be about to snap and give away the farm. National reciprocity won’t do much for him (though I doubt it would even remain on the table) if he caves any further on 2A issues. He’s already damaged himself with the bump stock garbage.
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Most self-defense shootings that happen at night are going to be too close to use a “tracer” and the muzzle flash would prevent you from seeing it anyway.
“Which begs the question . . .”
* Raises the question.
Why isn’t incidences like these all over the media. It seems only when firearms are used in the bad that gets attention. As a matter of fact when someone shoots an attacking animal, that’s a DGU that should be on the news.Only the dirty laundry gets aired
These kids are clearly brainwashed on the issue as they are accusing the NRA of having bloods on its hands, the NRA politicians of having blood on their hands, etc…while they have a right to speak, the idea that we should be making legislation that restricts a right based on the whims of teenagers is nuts.
☞Personally, as a Jew who lost his grandparents and extended family to the Holocaust, I’m appalled that the antis and their media supporters have adopted this phrase to further the proto-fascist disarmament agenda☜
why wouldn’t they “adopt” it?
the heavy duty gun grabbers in the US are JEWs, Fargo…. or wtf-ever yr ‘name’ is…..
do you deny that?
just try it!
so….chances are…..this whole she-bang is being run by semites…hence their re-hashing a phrase with equally dubious antecedents …..
I think any of his products are a good badge product, just because he cares this much. I will wait until I get my gold badge before I buy any of his products. I am sure my badge will be mailed to me any day now.
8-foot electrified cattle prod?
The problem is that elections are won and lost by independent voters. Pretty obvious that moderates are tired of hearing about mass shootings, they don’t really know much about firearms and semi auto rifles and pistols are used in many of them. When they get to the point that they are willing to try anything, they will start to vote 2A supporters out of office. If gun owners and our organizations are seen as uncompromising, we will eventually see another useless “assault weapons” ban. I think the NRA and GOA have missed some opportunities to start some of these dialogues in the periods between some of these shootings. Immediately after, people are stressed, tempers flare and the good old NRA demons are in everyone’s cross hairs. I find it curious that not one person protested outside an FBI building. They really screwed the pooch on this one but the NRA gets all of the blame.
“I held back tears during the drill and then as soon as I left the room cried along with other staff members”.
So moms are snowflakes too. Memo to “moms.” Suck it up and grow a pair of
ballsovaries.