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What, no skull and crossbones? . . . Gun permits may soon come with a health warning

Gun ownership in New York City could soon come with a warning — it’s dangerous to your health.

The City Council Public Safety Committee voted 6-1 Monday to require the NYPD to hand out written warnings about the risks of gun ownership to new applicants for firearm permits.

“Just like the [Surgeon General’s] warning that you see on the side of cigarette packs have changed the perception of smoking, these gun warnings are the first step to changing the public’s conversation,” said Councilwoman Vanessa Gibson, a co-sponsor of the gun bill.

Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.) may drop silencer reform and add a bump stock ban to the SHARE Act.

House GOP retreating on silencers? . . . Gun provisions could change in House sportsmen’s package

Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.), the sponsor of the bill and a co-chair of the Congressional Sportsmen’s Caucus, told E&E News this week there has been “sort of a cooling off period” for the measure in the wake of the massacre that left 59 people dead, including the gunman. He said over the past week he has approached leaders about how to get the legislation moving again toward the House floor.

According to Duncan, there are several options including dropping the silencer provision altogether and replacing it with other gun language. He said one idea could add language that would ban or require more stringent licensing for buying bump stocks, a plastic attachment added to semiautomatic weapons that allows them to fire far more rapidly.

Ralph Northam is proud of his low NRA rating.

Short bus civil rights rating . . . Ralph Northam: Proud of D- NRA Rating (He Has an F)

Democrat gubernatorial candidate Ralph Northam told Virginia voters he was proud of his D- NRA rating and the NRA pointed out that he actually has an F.

An ad released by the NRA Political Victory Fund shows Northam saying, “My grade with the NRA is a D minus, and I’m proud of that.”

The ad’s narrator then responds, “That’s a lie. It’s an F.”

Michelle Cerino on how to become a gunslinger.

Don’t just be a lead slinger . . . Take the Next Step and Become a Gunslinger

A person who carries a firearm, whether daily or occasionally, takes on a huge responsibility. Many people begin their firearms journeys with an introduction from a family member or friend, followed by a class at a local range and then they may even join a group or club. You can’t beat belonging to a group of like-minded individuals and spending time shooting.

I advise you though to take into consideration your firearms competency and consider what it takes to be a gunslinger. I’ve seen it on the range many times, people shoot fun drills until slide lock and consider that practice. What did they learn besides how to safely discharge firearms down range? Consider the following to take you from lead slinger to gunslinger.

Massholes think infringing some of their citizens' rights is just fine.

What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t they understand? . . . Tighter Massachusetts Gun Law Does Not Restrict Second Amendment

Despite enacting one of the strictest gun laws in the country in 2014, a new, comprehensive report from researchers at Northeastern University and the University of Massachusetts Boston found that the percentage of people being denied access to firearms in Massachusetts is in line with the national average. The vast majority—we’re talking 97 percent vast—of individuals who apply for a Firearm ID Card (FID) or a License to Carry (LTC) in the Bay State are accepted.

The wide-ranging Massachusetts Act Relative to the Reduction of Gun Violence adopted new gun licensing procedures, more comprehensive background checks, and additional suicide prevention standards, among other provisions. Based on data and information collected between July 2016 and June 2017, researchers determined that access to firearms for a small group of people with a history of violence declined as a result of the law, but the broader population can still legally obtain guns.

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Illinoisans can thank Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms that this is still a possibility . . . When our babies fear they will be shot, it’s time to make gun dealers more accountable

It isn’t often that residents get an opportunity to do something about the violence in Chicago. But in the next few days, a small window will open up allowing Illinoisans to clamp down on the sale of guns to people who should never have them.

During the second half of their veto session beginning Nov. 7, the Illinois House of Representatives will get another chance to consider SB1657, legislation that passed the Senate in April to help gun dealers keep their firearms from ending up in the hands of criminals.

The bill would require Illinois gun dealers to get a state license, and also would require background checks on dealers and their employees. Dealers also would be required to undergo training to prevent straw purchases — those made by people who can legally purchase a firearm on behalf of someone legally barred from buying guns. The legislation also would allow for videotaping of gun transactions so that straw purchasers can be identified.

Michigan Rep Dave Trott wants to regulate bump fire stocks under the NFA

Oh joy . . . A bipartisan group of lawmakers is bringing a new gun-control bill forward after inaction from Congress after the Las Vegas shooting

The new bill amends the National Firearms Act, which regulated fully automatic firearms and outlawed new ones made after the law’s implementation. “A reciprocating stock, or any other device which is designed to accelerate substantially the rate of fire of a semiautomatic weapon,” would be added to the books.

The bill, sponsored by Democratic Reps. Dan Kildee and Dina Titus as well as Republican Reps. Dave Trott and Brian Fitzpatrick, would require people who purchase or possess bump stocks to register with the ATF, submit to a background check and fingerprinting, and pay a $200 registration fee.

The Closing the Bump Stock Loophole Act would solve the quandary of whether the bump-stock issue should be fixed by legislative or regulatory action by placing the ball in the ATF’s court, Kildee said in an interview with Business Insider on Monday.


Fortunately the UK has strict gun control laws to prevent incidents like this . . . Gunmen in Halloween masks open fire with automatic weapons at rave in London

At least three men targeted the illegal ‘Money Move’ rave on Saturday, injuring two people in the hail of bullets. Terrifying footage shows one clubber return fire with a handgun as the lights went on and screaming people scrambled to get out of the venue.

A male victim can be seen lying on the ground bleeding as others try to help him with a tourniquet in video obtained by the Sun. Armed police arrived to find him with a gunshot wound to his left leg, and he was taken to hospital where he’s now in a stable condition.


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  1. LOL. So much for one TTAG writer’s prediction of HPA passing Congress before Christmas. “You’ll be home before the leaves fall, boys”. If/when it gets broached again, it will be time for another mass shooting. It will never be the “right time” and we’ll just end up giving more rights away in the end.

    • We were getting to close to dismantling a serious part of the governments powerbase, so they needed people to die to get more control.

      That’s why Las Vegas happened and nobody will convince me otherwise.

      • No matter how well documented and insightful my posts yall can only ignore the substance and dismiss me as troll/insult/name-calling, as Gov. William J Le Petomane gives yet another example of…

        And I get it, yall have nothing to say, yall dont know anything… you of course havent heard my nuanced remarks on am radio so have no idea how to respond, you cant think in any meaningful only lash out like children…

        • Have you looked up the definition of an internet troll? We’re calling you that, because you are.

          ll your doing is tossing insults. I realize you think your making ‘insightful comments’ but your not.

          my only mistake is, as you are a troll, my responding to you is a classic mistake.

        • Documented and insightful?

          Thank you for the laugh, I needed it this morning. Everyone thinks you are a moron.

          • Larry, I have to apologize for what I’m about to say.

            I completely agree with you THIS time!

            I apologize.

      • My last post for example is about as far from “insult” as the moron Gov claims as you can get… its an attempt to encapsulate Foucault’s idea of power being not so much repressive but productive, Gramsci’s notion of hegemony and Althusser’s theorizing about the ideological apparatus… And yes I know you “learned” about Gramsci on Rush, but dismissing his subtle ideas by slurring him as a “commerneast” is the usual sad version of “learning” yall get on am radio…

        You dunces have no idea what an OPPORTUNITY it is for you to chat with someone of my caliber! And you squander it with your stupid am radio mantra nonresponses!!

        • So you spend your time expounding to us, a bunch of drooling idiots? What the hell does that say about you? LOL

        • “You dunces have no idea what an OPPORTUNITY it is for you to chat with someone of my caliber!”

          Caliber? Dud round in the chamber! Misfire! Eject! Eject!

          • For someone who claims to know and understand us so well, the failed-to-be professor seems to have great difficulty communicating with us. Proof of our obtuseness, of course….

      • And another way you highight how embarrassingly limited yall are is that whenever I draw your attention to the evidence that Gump has made us the laughing stock of the world thanks to dumb white guys like yall, you invariably ignore that evidence and fantasize that I supported Clinton and make some childish remarks about her as if that is how reasonable adults respond… just pathetic, yall are like fetarded children (and this isnt an insult donkey(nor is donkey donkey)(nor is donkey donkey…) its an accurate characterization of your posts, devoid of substance, off topic and non sequitur))!!

        • Very well, o wise an noble soul,

          without using a single negative epithet (as i am a snowflake and easily triggered), please explain, how president trump has disgraced and/or humiliated America. It will be graded however, and you will be deducted 1 point for every sanctimonious or insulting word.

        • Insult Monkey only insults us cause he has our best interests at heart.

          All hail Insult Monkey. Watch him fling his divine poo in every direction. And then eat his lunch and pick his nose with the same fingers he flings poo with.

        • Everytime you visit and comment on TTAG, you give TTAG ad revenue and therefore support the big bad gun industry. Also, your condescending fake news insults do nothing but drive everyone who reads them to vote for Trump even harder then they did last time. Keep up the good work, comrade.

          • Don’t believe that it’s only Trump supporters who see the glaring logical inconsistencies in “Professor” Manque’s rambling tirades.

  2. Yeah thanks Springfield and RRA. Why many in Illinois will never forget your treachery. I was told by my LGS who handled several gun transfers that they would close if this gunstore scheme gets passed 😡

  3. “The the next step and become a gunslinger?”

    I can’t see that kind of language being used against you after a DGU…

    Oh yeah, and Illinoisans can thank Illinoisans. You know, the ones who elect those pols?

  4. “Terrifying footage shows one clubber return fire with a handgun” Huh? A clubber in London with a handgun acting in defense of self and others? When is the hanging?

    “The vast majority—we’re talking 97 percent vast—of individuals who apply for a Firearm ID Card (FID) or a License to Carry (LTC) in the Bay State are accepted.” All that tells us is that people who know they won’t qualify (criminals) are not bothering to apply.

    • It says the applications are accepted, it doesn’t say the permits are issued. Kinda like the car dealer ads “all credit considered”.

  5. approached leaders about how to get the legislation moving again toward the House floor

    In not BS speak – He went begging to Paul Fing Ryan who extended the middle finger of friendship

  6. ““A reciprocating stock, or any other device which is designed to accelerate substantially the rate of fire of a semiautomatic weapon,” would be added to the books.”

    Drop-in triggers, binary triggers, etc, banned?


    • From my letter to my idiot congress-critter.

      “What is this open ended ‘or any other device which is designed to accelerate substantially the rate of fire of a semiautomatic weapon’ nonsense? What’s the legal definition of substantially? What is the baseline rate of fire for a semi-automatic weapon? How is that defined and/or what method is used to determine it? You’ve left the door wide open for the ATF under a future Democrat administration to attempt the same sort of indirect gun-grab that was attempted under the Obama administration except this will be on aftermarket gun parts like replacement triggers instead of ammunition.”

      • F em all. Power is a rug that’s getting pulled out from under them. There’s plenty of ways to trip up your ahole neighbors who needed a job. Ask them for things, and tell other people that you are GETTING THEM ! Tell them they better call to get stuff. Meanwhile, you are busy supporting the other guy.

        Bump fire stocks BETTER BE OFF OF THE TABLE ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! (JUST ASK THE FING SUPA-GENIUS nra ). I call my Reps weekly to get the Post 1986 Full-Auto rolls opened up. That’s a (wealthy can have them [not necessarily any better citizen or less crazy]) > = pig issue, and we can chase them from the big house if they don’t go. But they will.

        We can still get the SHARE Act by Christmas, it’s already (mostly) written.

        If we don’t, the election isn’t too much further off and we can chip away at all the POS out there and go after their healthcare and pensions. Tony Podesta is taking a break, we can work on bulldozing K Street to outside the D.C. Beltway, so that this government sh_t ain’t fun enough to d1<k with anymore.

        • Anybody that wants to push gun-control anything before they even mention Uranium 1 and hillocrap is going to be considered in-it with her, and mueller, and podesta, and comey, and peyronie-bill, and . . .

          The people in D.C. know who’s going to be the most interested in that. . .

          THEIR FING REPLACEMENTS. And they’re about to get introduced to them.


          D R A I N – T H E – S W A M P

  7. Ah yes, after fighting to get SHARE through what are repubs gonna do?

    Sell out and make it worthless but dropping the silencer de regulation and giving into dems for more gun control.

    There’s no point in voting anymore. We’re just gonna get democrat policies and republican cowards and sellouts…

    Fire this sellout POS Jeff Duncan, as well as Fitpatrick and every other repug traitor!!!

  8. “…The Closing the Bump Stock Loophole Act would solve the quandary of whether the ”

    But the NRA was supposed to be on top of this. This kind of thing was going to be stopped by tossing the issue to the ATF so the politicians wouldn’t be able to try and make stupid legislation…..


  9. Interesting video of some very unintelligent, low information college kiddies.
    Glad it’s not the “bill of needs”.

  10. Great, one of the spineless jellyfish Republican sponsors of The Closing the Bump Stock Loophole Act is my congress-critter. His website brags about how he helped stop the Obama administration from banning certain types of ammo (62gr 5.56×45 green tip steel penetrators). I guess those are okay, but a piece of plastic is too dangerous.

      • I’m working on it. I sent him a real dead tree letter about the whole issue several weeks ago. I’m working on an electronic one now and will encourage others to do the same.

        • Phone is better than email if you can’t visit the office. Phone needs actual people to answer it and eats up far more of their time than an auto-sorted email. You can also justify calling multiple times: “Why hasn’t the congressman retracted the legislation I requested he retract yet?”

          Learn names and thank staff by name (simplest way is “thank you mr. uh…”). It’s really effective if you can learn to distinguish their voices and greet them by name.

        • @Nanashi I presume you mean the office he has in his district, not going all the way to DC when you say go to his office?

      • Slaves, begging for “massa” to be nice to them…

        Do you actually believe that these politicians have any legitimate authority over you or your life?

        Why? From where might that bogus authority come? Because you give to politicians the innate legitimate authority you have over yourself… the SAME natural authority you have to defend yourself.

  11. Sorry I cant be civil here.
    Ill add my 2 cents to this crock O crap changing the bill as written.
    I don’t care about bump stocks. Made NFA or otherwise, useless as they are. This bill should not include binary triggers and other such devices. Taking out suppressors is wrong, wrong, wrong. They never should have been an NFA item as is.
    Nothing more then typical useless, spineless congress critters doing what they do best.
    Selling us down the river.
    The lot of them need to be tossed in the next 2 election cycles. Whatever replaces these do nothings cant be worse. Ryan should be tossed on his butt out the door NOW…………………….POS he is.

  12. “…researchers determined that access to firearms for a small group of people with a history of violence declined as a result of the law, but the broader population can still legally obtain guns.”

    I don’t suppose it ever occurred to those well-educated researchers that that small group of violent people can still get a gun, just not legally. Or that they can legally purchase knives, bats, gasoline, cars, etc… The problem isn’t the guns, it’s that “with a history of violence” part.

    As for the SHARE act, the pessimists among us (myself included) were chided for being too negative when we said folks around here were being too Pollyanna-ish about its chances of passing. And now we find out that they’re not only talking about taking out the part where we get suppressors, but now they’re talking about putting in a bump stock ban? If anything, we weren’t pessimistic enough.

    • Unfortunately this bastard turncoat Duncan is gonna ram it through and sell us out by taking out the suppressor deregulation and rolling a whole bunch of other crap in there in addition to the proposed ban.

      Remind me again what’s the purpose of voting?

      Raise holy hell, and then primary worthless traitors like senator Duncan it’s the only recourse we have against the tidal wave of socialism (however useless it is).

        • I think Trump is a one-man perfect storm. He’s been a pretty good President so far, and all the people who say ‘no’ aren’t paying attention to the economy, our standing in the world, ISIS taking a dirt nap, the Judiciary. . .

          What’s even better though, is that he openly sh_ts on 140+ years of ‘ivy league’ bullsh_t that we’ve been handed, that the only person fit for the Presidency of the United States of America, is some ahole that they pop out. And the halls of the wealthy and ‘ruling class’ have done even worse.

          Well, “Poop to That !!!” – Marvin Boggs

          Trump has shown us what a long string of sh_t-headed wind-bags we’ve been handed in the past, AND NOW THAT STRING IS BROKEN. All the self-important SOB’s that have tried to suck-off the right people to ensure their place in line HAVE LEARNED THEY’VE WASTED THEIR TIME. They ALL suck, and their defects are so apparent, and the sick-syrupy way that they attempt to sell themselves and their ‘ideas’ and ‘agendas’ is offensive and sickening. It’s so high school student council it’s scary. F all of them. Their sh_t can dry on the vine and blow away. I’m going to warn my great-great-great grandkids against them.

    • Oh good, I was getting tired of the old version of events.

      This is the Mandalay Bay Casino from Google Maps:

      ‘Full-auto’ shooting that close to a major downtown airport and there’s no talk of response on the airfield for taking off or landing aircraft?






    • TTAG ran a “help the demanding moms with their advertising” submission contest a couple years ago, IIRC.

      • Hey, TTAG management –

        Got the link to those contest entries?

        Weren’t they somewhere on the FakeBook page?

  14. The new bill amends the National Firearms Act… “A reciprocating stock, or any other device which is designed to accelerate substantially the rate of fire of a semiautomatic weapon,” would be added to the books.

    I suspect the imprecision of you could drive a truck through there (Too soon?) is a feature, not a bug.

    This isn’t about prevention another bullet-hose massacre of a concert audience. It’s about hijacking the horror at a massacre to create authority to do big stuff later. None of this will reduce murders using guns (or trucks), but that’s not the point.

    A functioning court system would throw that law out on first challenge on constitutional grounds, not 2A but “unconstitutionally vague.”

    One more time: Authorities delegated to government are narrow and specific, while restrictions are broad and general. Restrictions on citizens are narrow and specific, while prerogatives are broad and general.

    “The question is who is to be master.”

    • “preventing”

      Comment editing working with about the precision of a bump-fire stock right now. I have confidence Our Gracious Hosts will sort it out. Less confident on the bump-fire stock thing.

  15. In case we forgot, that proposed legislation reminds us that the dangerous thing about govt isn’t that the people in it believe an elected gig is their best option, but that for the people in it, it is.

  16. …these gun warnings are the first step to changing the public’s conversation,” said Councilwoman Vanessa Gibson, a co-sponsor of the gun bill.

    When those proles don’t have the right opinions, we “representatives” have to take their money to reeducate them into the right ones. Or did I miss something there?

    I suppose doing it that way is less disruptive than dismissing the people and appointing another all at once.

  17. Anthony Cumia is a terrible and irresponsible gun owner. Why he is the face of this article, I’ll never know.

  18. A warning on NYC permits? Adding that should take about 10 minutes, considering how few there are.

    About 97% of MA permits are accepted? BFHD! FID cards are for “non-large capacity “ rifles and shotguns (aka normal hunting arms). LTCs can be restricted to, say, target shooting only (which would only allow you to carry concealed to and from the range), so that wouldn’t really be a CCW permit as understood in a Free State. G.O.A.L. published some numbers last year showing that many issued permits were restricted.

  19. Shouldn’t NYC be more worried about the people regulating their concealed carry programs being implicated in a bribery ring?

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