“When I teach a defense class, the point of the class is to kill someone. If you’re a trans woman, the person you’re killing is likely to be someone society values more than you . . . If I as a trans woman ever shoot a right-wing fascist, the law is almost definitely not going to be on our side.” Kayla Harris quoted in The Trans Women Turning to Firearms for Survival, sub-headed More trans women are taking up arms than before to protect themselves. But even the simple act of self-preservation can be deemed aggression to conservatives. [via psmag.com]
nope, sorry don’t want to serve next to conscripts and wouldn’t want my buddies still in to have to. I want those people who are there to want to be there, or at least willing to despite knowing better now. Plus conscription is anti-American in general. I’ve thought about this however and think a better idea would be a certain number of mandatory hours of community service to graduate highschool. Could do most as class activities and leave some to be done individually. This would foster the “community” thinking and sense of belonging as well as give seniors something to do during their skate year.
WTF??? Talk about “niche marketing”.
“If I as a trans woman ever shoot a right-wing fascist, the law is almost definitely not going to be on our side”
If the jury is made up of trans-woman / left-wingers, you’ve got it made in the shade. Or, and I’m reaching here, if you were actually being attacked with deadly force, you might me OK (not valid in MA, NYC, or NJ).
Will there soon be classes for trans-gender men shooting misogynists or for left-handers for shooting right-handed assailants?
“He held the gun in a sinister manner, I had no choice”
This made me laugh harder than it probably should have.
This individual doesn’t sound mentally stable. The point of a firearm self defense class isn’t to kill, it is to protect and defend. That this person is going into it with a chip on his shoulder speaks poorly of his ability to fairly and prudently impart legal standards for self-defense and prudent use of a firearm. Criminal law does not have special exemptions, positive or negative, for mentally ill (trans) people, except that it may benefit them if they are found incompetent to stand trial for their actions, or that it may disqualify them from owning a firearm at all if they’ve ever been involuntarily committed to a mental institution — something far more likely for trans people, who have a suicide rate of more than 40%.
Usually the person most dangerous to a trans person is himself.
A person with a mental delusion seems prone to instability? No….
You’re using the wrong pronoun. The person most dangerous to a transgender is itself. Here, fixed it for you.
He was born with a penis. He’s not an it or a she, he’s a man.
This is why ALL of the iterations of sodomy are mental illness. Transgender is a serious mental illness and should be barred from weapons ownership until they recieve treatment for said illness. If you can’t figure out whether you are male or female you don’t need to be arround guns.
I’d say he’s got it backwards. I’m assuming that by ‘right wing fascist’ he means white guy. White guys aren’t a protected class, trannies are. If you shoot a tranny you’re probably going up on a ‘hate crime’ with ‘enhanced penalties’.
We’ll, at least firearms and marksmanship training & qualification, including covering self-defense law (use of force, castle doctrine, stand your ground, escalation/de-escalation, etc.), you know, to “regulate the militia”.
Everyone should be required to participate (except the mentally ill and felons that haven’t served their full sentence).
Some people are going to take a lot longer than others.
This person has it wrong from the very beginning. The point of a self defense shooting is to get someone to stop trying to kill you, not to kill them. Of course it’s an acceptable result if the attacker dies as a result of your defensive actions. But this is an important distinction.
You meant to say Left-wing fascist.
Dear Little Kayla,
“When I make noises with my mouth or produce gibberish with my keyboard, my intent is to confuse the hell out of anyone who is paying attention, so I will be taken seriously and not be locked up. Also, I do not own a dictionary or even know what a dictionary is.”
FIFY
Sounds like this person has some strange fantasies of shooting people. Does he think that waves of oncoming right wing fascist skin heads are going to appear out of nowhere, and try to strip him of his virginity?
Granted, such fantasies are hardly unique to this wierdo (hordes of armored thugs or UN troops, for example)
Speaking of such strange things, Wienstine is reportedly lurking around the golden globes for another victim to rape.
Harris sounds more like a trans-snowflake than trans-sexual. It sounds as if he/she is either preparing a defense or is predetermined to assault a conservative. It would be interesting if we could discover who certified it as an instructor.
Please remind me exactly what a trans woman is. Is that someone who used to be a woman or is it someone who currently “identifies” as a woman?
Or is the goal of these confused people just to create confusion in the rest of us?
I love how these degenerates scream that science is real when it comes to the climate but get all mad when you point out that they’re just a biological defect.
There is no right to live for defects. Anyone who teaches such people to survive should be shot as a traitor to the human species.
This is a little much even for me. Can’t we just put them in asylums instead of killing them off? Eugenics doesn’t exactly mesh with the American ideal and modern libertarianism.
I agree that a planned parenthood style eugenics approach isn’t American. The mentally ill probably should be in hospitals.
There is, in fact, a right to live, inherent in every person. What they choose to live for may never be known outside the privacy of that individual’s mind, and therefore they have the right to hold those thoughts, there being no power on earth that can stop them.
What their “true” or “official” gender is, while an interesting question for philosophers, has no bearing on the extent of their individual rights. As someone who recognizes equal rights regardless of gender, the one is irrelevant to the other.
To me, that settles the question of the rights of transgender persons. How to classify their psychological or medical conditions, and what if anything is to be done for them, is something I leave up to the medical profession. At present, the consensus is to help them “transition”.
Right wing fascist = anyone that Isn’t in lock step agreement with ze’s radical leftist ideology. That quote is both offensive and disturbing; Lamenting that It can’t get away with killing Heterosexual, Conservative, white men. IMO Sounds to me like, To coin a phrase from the Leftist MSM a “dog whistle” or a call to violence by that unhinged extremist.
For me:
9mm & .45ACP is Winchester Ranger-T: I simply haven’t seen anything with terminal ballistics in penetration and expansion *yet*. It’s also the successor to the legendary Black Talon ammo from many years ago…
.40S&W is Federal HST: great expansion, acceptable penetration, and relatively easy to find.
.380 ACP is Hornady FTX Critical Defense: it barely meets the FBI ratings for acceptable penetration but the expansion is spectacular and it’s relatively easy to find. It’s the best I could find for the relatively anemic.380 pocket guns I have.
No permanent decisions yet for .357 Mag / .38 Special / .357 Sig….
This thing is the best AR tool ever invented in the history of AR tools. It’s worth 10 times the price of what they’re asking for it. It’s that good.
Order now before they run out.
I can’t beleive I spent hours trying to figure out why the damn thing was wiggling around so much. Luckilly, this article from 3 years ago saved me more time+aggravation. What’s the point of having a trigger (that does break great) if it’s gonna wiggle around like some cheaply made, low end Chinaman special? Time for CMC to take their existing stock, drill a hole or 2 in the housing, and put some allen screws to hold it in place. I’ll be returning mine+putting the enhanced trigger back in until my (second) velocity gets through the mail.
“When I teach a defense class, the point of the class is to kill someone…”
Then you have no idea what you’re doing and your “teaching” is going to get one of your students sent to prison. Which I suppose Is the actual intent, so you can point at the situation and scream that it’s discrimination. What a sociopath.
Caught this the other day on Rogan. I would have liked to know what pistol Remi was carrying but still a pretty interesting account. Especially the part about “not wanting to be that guy” and his pack being 3 feet away.
That was a good listen. Thanks for that. I’m heading to Prince of Wales Island in September for a bear hunt.
Where I find the confusion is not in the instructors sex, but in how they see conservatives.
A Conservative could care less how you see yourself. A Conservative believes you have a right to decide for yourself.(period). A Conservative believes in the founding principles, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
That being said, if being transgender makes you happy, good for you, that’s your thing. It’s just not my thing. Second you have a right to life, a Conservative treasures life, that’s why it’s the first principle. You have every right to defend your life, and a Conservative would never take it. Unless you try to take theirs.
Finally Liberty means you have a right to do what you want, but I have the same right. So the Conservative may not be the one with the problem perhaps it’s that you do not know what Conservativism is.
Let me give you an insight from the inside, as it were.
I am a pro-choice, pro-weed, pro-gay marriage, bisexual anti-theist libertarian. But because my main “thing” is all about being self-reliant and prepared to survive everything from day to day to TEOTWAWKI, the label I am most often called by my non-heterosexual acquaintances is “conservative”, and that usually delivered with a hearty spit in my general direction.
Then again, it’s not like I expect to get any love from the people posting the “all sodomy is a mental defect and defectives should be culled from the herd” crowd as seen in the comments above, either.
The “if you aren’t 100% in lock step with me then you should be put in an oven” mentality is pretty rampant on both left and right, so glass houses and all that. A lefty statist and a righty statist are both statists, after all.
There’s a “bit” of middle ground between “in the oven you go” and pandering to mentally ill defectives. I hate to break this to you, but just because I don’t want to humor the psychotic delusions of degenerate freaks, doesn’t mean that I want to round them up and gas them. But please, remind the me last time ANY “right wing” government engaged in a policy of deliberate genocide… I’ll wait.
Well, I mean, you DO understand why someone like me doesn’t really want to have a conversation with someone like you, right?
It’s not because we disagree on guns, because based on your comment history I’m pretty damned sure we’re both on the same little end of the “shall not be infringed means exactly what it says” spectrum.
It’s not because you’re straight and religious, or because I’m neither.
It’s entirely because you’re calling me and my friends “degenerate freaks”.
Remember your reaction to “basket of deplorables” and “bitter clingers”? Well it’s just like that, except I’m fairly sure you and I actually want the same thing, to whit: “Leave me F*<K alone and don't tell me how to live my life." It's just that I'm not particularly inspired to invite you over to watch a game, now.
Would this not be one of the useful applications for a Mare’s Leg or similar lever action “pistol” in a large caliber? Or maybe even an AK pistol in a chest rig? Would not a steel core AK round take down just about anything short of a brown or grizzly bear at close range? I own neither gun, so these are actual questions.
‘Would this not be one of the useful applications for a Mare’s Leg…’
Yes it would, but I’m curious what the other useful application for a mare’s leg is.
I love the idea of a revolver and a lever action. I’d go with matching caliber though. .44 mag or .357 depending on the size of game near where you’re camping or hiking. Easy to pack just a couple of boxes of ammo
The article leaves out a lot of info
– The right address https://store.fixitsticks.com
– The AR15 and Glock kits are pre-order
– AR15 kits are $65 – $70
– Glock specific BITS only are $13
– Cannot find warranty details
If you don’t already have these tools, I would think these prices would make it a worthwhile purchase.
Not sure who GUNZGUNZGUNZ is, but the kit is certainly not worth 10 times the asking price.
As mentioned in the other thread. I carry a SP101 .357 (with the 4.2″ barrel) in a Ribz chest pack that I’ve sewn a holster in to.
It looks like any other dorky chest rig, but the gun is easily accessible with one zipper or even keeping the zipper halfway open.
Holy crap.
For hiking the Appalachian Trail and to manage weight, I’d carry a Keltec PMR-30 in 22 Mag which weighs 13 oz. It can hold 30 rounds of 22 Mag ammo, which weigh very little …….and gives lots of defensive firepower.
As a Libertarian (and veteran), I’m abjectly opposed to any and all things compulsory. I do believe, however, that one should be able to reap extensive income-tax/property-tax reduction based on number of years served (maybe throw rank in there too as a weighted modifier?).
So while not compulsory, it should offer tremendous benefits for those able to serve (in some capacity).
The Glock 29 is a great option. Wear it OWB on your hike then wear it IWB for dinner at nice restaurant. It could be the best of both worlds.
Fair points made on the two handguns. The G20 with Buffalo Bore ammo is a good choice in bear country, especially if you’re accustomed to carrying and shooting a Glock. But why the 30-30??? If you’re carrying for self defense you don’t need range; you need stopping power. A 44 mag lever gun, or 45-70 is much better defensive medicine.
Best woods gun would be a LCRX 3 inch in 357. RUGER MAKE ONE
The goal of self defense is to stop the threat.
If they die… so be it.
The goal is not to kill but to defend and protect.
Ah… they mythological “right wing fascist”… I’m sure we’ll find one some day… right next to the libertarian socialist, Bigfoot, and the Roswell aliens.
I know lots of them on 4chan, 8chan, and Discord, but all they do is hide in their mom’s basement and post frog memes.
“right next to the libertarian socialist”
Apparently that’s really a thing. Of course, it’s just a name some socialists gave themselves since it is impossible to be both a libertarian and a socialist, but there are actually people who call themselves “libertarian socialists”. The cognitive dissonance is very strong in that crowd.
It’s funny to me that this trans person who is an obvious democrat, advocates self defense with firearms, all thanks to republicans, libertarians, and the like.
Marlin 1895 Guide gun in 45-70 GOVT. Out hiking dunno what you’re runnin into you may as well have the caliber to deal with it all
This article is full of fail. Especially this quote: “pursuing training and licensure for the purpose of accessing conceal carry permits”. In California? LOL.
Also, the person in the photo appears to be wearing fashion sunglasses, useless for eye protection.
I live on the east coast, so for me I carry a S&W 686 plus in .357 with a 4 inch barrel in a Guide’s Choice holster.
She has a right to say whatever she wants. I have a right to IGNORE her and educate others on the 2A. New Jersey needs a 2A evangelization program to help spread the Gospel of self-defense and personal responsibility.
He who says,”I’ll meet you halfway”, usually thinks he’s standing on the line. When that happens, there IS no room for ANY conversation. Honest or otherwise.
I know the two people in the photo. I find it disturbing to see their faces here, especially if you know that a man with a gun was responsible for their deaths on the AT. I also hiked the AT, and don’t think that having a firearm would have saved either one of them.
Well, what should i say?
Does ever person have a right to live and defend this life? Yes.
Should some people rather seek the security of a mental health institution to get the most out of their life? Most definetly yes.
Anti-gun activists like her are trying to whip up enough hate for people to come and do her, and people like her, and their families and property, harm.
I hope it’s working. I want to do what I can to help her see that specific thing through.
Don’t just comment here. This is mostly an echo chamber of common beliefs. Go to these articles and make cogent arguments there. Your comments will do more good there.
Either the Dan Wesson SS 6″ .44mag, or the Marlin 1894 in .44mag.
Better yet, both!!
Or for all purpose serious SHTF hiking (trying to stay alive BAMN), my CA C39v2 AK pistol on a sling. You won’t need steel core with a couple of 30rnd mags.
That Tapco trigger is sa-weeeeeet.
Did you see the size of that extended mag? Which makes it three mags on board. Maybe Mark should carry a higher capacity firearms, like the GLOCK 19 depicted on his workbench topper?
An glock 29/29sf would an more compact option ore an glock 30/30 sf converted to 460 rowland for big animals
When I hike in North Carolina Mountains I take a Glock 29 with Buffalo Bore 200gn Hard Cast bullets. Yes I have seen bear, not had to shoot them.
Check out this perspective in the comment section of that article, this is just a small clip :
“However, it’s the other things that happen that become the problem.
You see, when you pass a law that restricts my ability to own a particular firearm, you’re impacting my ability to defend myself from those who ignore the laws. While the laws will create additional charges my attacker may face if/when he’s arrested, it’s of little solace. After all, I seriously doubt the dead really give a damn.
That gun law is tantamount to combating burglary by outlawing door locks, something that no one in their right might would actually do.”
I *like* the way that guy thinks!
One of those interesting and very ignored facts is one of the two rifles used in the massacre in Tasmania had been handed into the Victorian police.
I think the personal use / sell for cash post was probably more accurate than they planned to say.
Well, this is unintentionally hilarious. The basic gist is “We would love for you to give us your guns so we can go plinking with them.”
Cops getting free guns. Imagine that.
Oh yeah, firearms. Glock 20 will do for Michigan’s Upper Peninsula
Ok, here is my take on this article as a TS POTG, she doesn’t know what she is talking about conservatives (BTW, some of you might remember my article here). Yes some people might have issues with who I am, however with that being said generally they are in the minority. Most of my friends are conservative or at the very least independent. I don’t fear conservatives, because once you get to know them and once you talk to them about being a TS, they actually listen.
Shooters will be distributed to our officers for their personal financial gain or recreational use.
Non shooters, will have the serial #s ground off by police personnel and be distributed as drop pieces to officers in the field.
Good lord. Looking at the posture and position of these folks I think we should be asking for THEIR firearms …
Hmm…screw everyone with eczema or flat footed or with asthma I guess.
Would be an awesome way to create a whole new class system though wouldn’t it? Those that make the cut gets to enjoy the type of government benefits socialists dream about after putting in their x years. And those that don’t get to….idk it’s not like anyone would care as long as they were getting what they want.
An “honest conversation about guns” in 2018 looks remarkably like the sort of “sincerity” the Japanese demanded in 1938 regarding their campaign to conquer and enslave China.
The technical term is “abject, fawning submission”.
The answer in 1938 was “NO, I REFUSE.”
The answer in 2018 is “NO, I REFUSE.”
According to an article published by American Handgunner Jan/Feb 2000 issue, the pistol was spec’d and selected for FBI SWAT not FBI HRT.
250,000,000 million guns in private hands. over a billion bullets in the same hands. yet 250,000,000 people hurt no one yesterday. 5%
of the counties in this country are responsible for 75% plus of ALL violent and gun crime WE EXPERIENCE. (fbi.gov for source.) Chicago alone is responsible for 30 maybe 35% of those statistics on its own. THEY ALREADY HAVE DRACONIAN GUN LAWS IN PLACE. AND THE CRIME ONLY GOT WORSE. we dont have a gun control problem we have a problem that goes far deeper. it’s a HUMAN NATURE problem. glorify the criminal lifestyle. praise all the street kid rappers making it big…flashing that gat and fat stacks…”bitches ain’t nothing but ho’s and tricks.” wonder why they all think this behaviour is OK?
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I don’t trust people who advertise their membership in an aggressive gang which is financed by theft. Trusting cops makes as much sense and is exactly as “ethical” as trusting child molesters.
Lol yeah. Inherit guns from a family member you don’t want? Don’t SELL them or anything! Just give them away free of charge so some bubba cop can use them instead! ThinBlueLine and all that!
What a bunch of idiots.
I think the firearms industry need to take a lesson from Honda in the way they changed the perception of people who ride motorcycles. Their campaign of “You meet the nicest people on a Honda” changed the way people felt about motorcycle riders from outlaws to Mr. and Mrs. American family.
Political instability and crime rates will sell more firearms than anything else ever will.
New York City’s gun control laws are racist.
Sticky subject. Ok here’s where we need a burden of proof on that E.P.O law. Say Jack and Dianne are dating. Jack messes around on Dianne with Sally and leaves Dianne for Sally. Well Dianne ain’t takin it well so she goes full “bunny boiler” and goes to court to take an EPO out against Jack ex parte. Jack meanwhile has got a new place and is lovin life with Sally until there’s a knock on the door and they take all of Jack and Sally’s guns. Jack never actually hit Dianne or so much as said he would but is losing his property.
Flip the script, Jack is an abuser he beats Dianne daily. Dianne finally leaves him, he stalks her, and she takes out an EPO. Jack loses his guns. At least now he can’t shoot her.
The way I look at it is if IF an EPO is issued it should be proven that the respondent actually did something illegal like assaulted the petitioner and said respondent should be arrested on those charges.
So its a fatter shield with 2x the price?
How about turning it around?
Arm the accuser with a three-month (or whatever) CCW loaner with holster, and include some instruction, range time, practice and SD ammo. Accuser can choose to notify the accused either him/herself or by police visit, or not at all.
At the end of that time, hand it back in, or buy it from the PD for market price.
My G40 has a 6.5 inch comp’d KKM barrel, Vortex Venom, Streamlight TRL-1 HL, trigger work, and grip tape. I love my handgun! All I need is a Kenai chest holster, and I’m good to go.
Sure beats snowflake prepardness, which consists of hope.
The 642 is a terrific revolver but it’s not very fond of some speedloaders. Top o’the grip gets in the way
As Noah said in his post, there is no penalty for lying to the court
These angry women ( it is almost always women) make these accusations as a bargaining tactic.
Or just to harass the man
They will also make unfounded accusations of child abuse
Child protective services will come out over and over again
I had them come to my house 7 days in a row during the summer visitation
They claim they have to every report separately
The courts will investigate, you prove your innocence and there is no repercussions for making knowingly false accusations
Other fun things I have seen them do to other doctors I know is report you to the IRS, homeland security and the state medical board
These organizations will all also investigate and you incur costs in defense
Our family court system is biased in favor of the woman
I’ve already got this box checked, but I’m still looking forward the the review.
Lotta beer, lotta girls, and a whole lotta cursin’, 22 automatic on my person…
I had a weird thought,
How about a sawed off 10 Ga.? On the first shot, upon sighting a bruin. you could shove a couple of super tasty meatballs down the barrel, eating what gets shaved off. Keep the gun loaded with a light powder charge, and no pellets. Try and shoot your balls (meat) in front of the bears nose.
If that doesn’t get it’s mind off of you, then you can fallow up with tastier meatballs, or a load of 00 buckshot. Keep running shoes handy!
How do you add an avatar on this page?
We’ve been over this during last year’s SHOT Show – my position has not changed, Gun Bunnies make the shooting world go ’round.
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I built one from Tony over at tromix. Tromix there’s some good people over there and they were the ones that got the whole 458 Socom thing going to begin with. As I think I remember there was an Asian fellow that designed the cartridge and Tony who actually built the components to work with the cartridge. But I have to say is very effective and very accurate. Two thumbs up on 458 Socom.
It’s staggering how many people here are suddenly supporting gun restrictions because shes a tranny and ignoring the very relevant truth here. Some people are more likely to get put in jail for self defense than others, especially marginalized people, and that concerns you too. The idiots here whose hate for trannies outweighs their care for the second amendment are the same people who price gouge before a gun ban. If you don’t respect the right of every person to be able to defend themselves, you’re not a real American, and pretending that youre just concerned isnt fooling anyone when you arent concerned about very violent groups of people who are currently able to legally own firearms without any odd restrictions. If the second amendment stops applying once someone you don’t like starts exercising it, you have the same common sense gun restrictions in mind as anti gunners.