“In the statement, Noor Salman described driving slowly by several destinations, including Disney World and the Pulse nightclub, before the shooting. When driving by Pulse, Omar Mateen asked his wife ‘How upset are people going to be when it gets attacked?'” – Pulse gunman’s wife: I knew he was going to Orlando to attack [via usatoday.com]
I wish we’d stop naming the killers. Research shows the fame they get is motivation. We can tell the antis(and anyone who finds mass shootings appalling) that if they don’t want to be complicit, don’t name them. Anyways f*ck the Pulse killer, and molon labe
Hiding the names is a real good way to let the government get away with even more crap. It reeks of Stalin airbrushing out people he didn’t like any more.
I have a friend who works for the Orange County (CA) Sheriff’s weapons ID unit.
They routinely go shooting (for fun) with seized and recovered weapons.
Has been on my bucket list for a long time; By hook or crook was looking through a an on line site and found one listed for $1600.00, carrying case and 5 magazines locally. Traded a lightly pitted partial Winchester Garand and a reconstituted 1903A3 from a drill rifle straight up. At first wondered if I didn’t give to much but when checking what Sarco wants for the magazines thought that given $60.00 a pop with case was a fairly even swap. Garand barrel was about 4-4 1/2 throat worn.
Omar Mateen asked his wife ‘How upset are people going to be when it gets attacked?’”
Almost a pity you’re not around anymore so you could find out.*
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*oh, who am I kidding? He’d hardly be handed over to the mob for justice. No, he’d be treated with kid gloves and idolized by the rest of the prison population.
come on man , if this site is going tranny or homo then I will have to drop it,I thought it was for firearms news.
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Honest conversation begins with the nature of violence in America is…”Not related to the law abiding citizen. Correct?”
If the other party cannot get past this there will be no honest conversation. From this point ‘we’ can prove that almost every regulation does nothing but, treat the law abiding, except perhaps background check (blind). Therefore any gun control argument is moot (except for the hidden agenda of full confiscation / elimination).
IMHO
Property Rights people.
If its on my land, I will shoot it, sell it, or make it to wear silly hats as I see fit.
You can say that all day long. But actually doing so will get you placed in jail, unless it’s a nuisance critter like coyotes or pigs.
I’m more concerned about the 2 legged threat on a trail. Many more of them in Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin than charging bears. The revolver is a no-brainer for those of us who would panic, fumble, panic while are hands are shaking. Racking a slide? Even tho you’ve done it many, many times? Heck, you know how to talk, but, your voice cracks and you stutter when you’re scared.
What about a shock wave loaded with buckshot and/or slugs or a mare’s leg in 44 mag both could be slug over the shoulder or along side a backpack \ messager bag… more then enough for large predator either two or four legged kind…
My hiking gun is a 6″ Smith and Wesson Model 28-2 Highway Patrolman. Is it a bit too big? Yup! It will stop anything smaller than a Grizzly, and it looks pretty cool, which, honestly, is 50% of why we carry something anyway, right?
For far too many Americans, the choice is often:
A. Buy a gun to defend self/family.
B. Eat this week.
It was that realization that convinced me to stop being such a snob and looking down my nose at choices like HiPoint, the S&W SD9, SCCY, Taurus PT111, etc.
Poor folk need protection too.
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I’d love to see the gun manufacturers get together and set up a voluntary training program to address the new/want to be gun owners directly and competently. The NRA had an only fair training program to start with, and they have screwed it up so badly it may never recover. The NRA needs serious competition in this. Training programs and manufacturers, and all other parts of the American gun culture would benefit.
I’m gonna play devil’s advocate here and say that all that is neccesary for evil to triumph is for scared, abused, oppressed women to do nothing. If he carelessly murdered a bunch of people he didn’t know, imagine what he did to her. How scared did she have to be to know what was going to happen, know the right thing to do to stop it, and still decide that saving the lives of others wasn’t worth what she would endure for turning him in?
Selfish? Cowardice? Thats for the monday morning quarterbacks and keyboard commandos here to decide. But I think she was a battered woman doing what battered women do: surviving.
yeah, ok.
i’m goin’ with mutual ideology.
The firearms industry is quite small. There is only one reason why it has any societal impact at all, and that reason is the NRA. The NRA, with only 5 million members, is also small, but it has been very successful. Which is why the left and the usual TTAG tr0lls hate it.
Sure, the NSSF should wave it’s magic wand and convince all non-owners to go out and buy a gun. Unfortunately, there is no magic wand. So how does a tiny organization like the NSSF, with a very limited budget, reach a hundred million non-owners?
having done a lot of hiking, and carried several guns doing so, Its really a no-brainer.
S&W 629 & 2 speed loaders
First load, standard self defense loads
2nd load, bear/pig punchers of your choice.
3rd load, snake loads.
We also need to bring in more ethnic minorities into the 2A fold, many people harbor old world thinking that gun ownership will cause the govt to knock on their door. Lots of room in the chinese, Indian, middle eastern, and even African American culture to increase ownership rates.
I don’t buy those poll results. Too damn many guns being sold for the 8 years of barry and the fear filled run up to hillary’s supposed crowning to be just a few ofwg’s doing all that buying.
I live in the liberal heartland of the bay area, CA. Every time I visit a range here it’s crowded with all manner of folk. Young, old, different races. Women on their own buying and using their guns.
Don’t piss on my shoes and tell me its raining.
Latest poll confirms: Hillary is going to win the election. The only question is how big she will win.
Never really trusted polls to begin with, but this last election really put the dagger into most, if not all polls as far as I’m concerned. You can skew a poll to make it look anyway you want. Hell, a bunch of them aren’t just skewed, just straight made up.
Thank you for full transparency. The reason I’m here and not on another site.
Homosexuals are carrying signs saying “Muslims are welcome here”. I would say that the gays got what was coming to them even though they didn’t expect it. Homosexuals hate Christians and they think the Muslims might be their allies because Muslims also hate Christians. I would say the homosexuals don’t understand the realities of the world.
It’s sad when any innocent American is a victim of terrorism or any ordinary Street crime. But I have wondered why it is that gay people support bringing Muslims here. I think that shows just how really sick in the head gays really are.
Libertarians, Liberals, and the Left totally support bringing murderers and rapists to America.
“When I teach a defense class, the point of the class is to kill someone.”
So every time you teach a defense class, someone dies?!
Seriously, though, when I took my CC course, our instructor emphasized multiple times that the purpose of drawing and firing your weapon at another person was to end a threat, not to kill. Killing may be required in order to stop the threat, but if simply drawing the gun causes someone to give up, or if my first shot is non-fatal but otherwise incapacitates them, then I have accomplished my goal and there is no reason to pursue death.
I agree that we should work to fix injustices in the courts, but let’s not add fuel to the fire by claiming that the purpose of defending ourselves is to kill.
I wonder … how many of these “known-ish wolfe” attacks could be stopped if we’d put people on a “known-ish wolfe watch list”, and, you know, warch them? I mean in stead of outting non-terrorists on a “terrorist watch list”, then harassing, but not watching, them? The Pulse shooter was another kinda, sorta, kniwn-ish guy that they didn’t stop.
What would happen if we rewarded the list keepers for getting it right? Stop some whack job, good. Harass someone who’s done nothing, bad.
Every pocket knife the T S A took from not a terrorist is a failure. Every mass shooting they let happen, likewise. Maybe there’d be less shootings if they weren’t fiddling with pocket knives all the time.
What feedback have you received from Honor Guard (if any) concerning your testing results?
Any feedback from them that shows that they themselves are concerned about the results and may be thinking about ceasing production while they do further testing?
This gets into a speculative area that I’d rather shy away from and stick to just reporting actual findings, honestly. I’ll say that the direction in which Honor Defense’s public comments have been trending is encouraging.
No. Note that the police, as in the photo, will deliberately mishandle your guns in order to devalue and damage them. Even if gun cases are available, they (local, state, BATF, etc.) prefer to just throw them into the trunk of the cruiser. The police are never your friend.
A conviction is a requirement of forfeiture of rights in the US.
So, hell no.
Not true. You can be held without bail
Restraining orders fall into SIFI’s “pre-crime” category in that they are predicated on the notion that patterns of behavior can be predictive for future behavior. As we are seeing with gun-confiscation, that’s a dangerous slippery slope. Perhaps “hate speech” will be next.
If you love someone – or even like them – take them shooting. If you can, not even “Would you like to learn to shoot sometime?” but “Come to the range with me Saturday. First box is on me.”
And for the love of God, please start them on a .22, not on center fire.
Welp, they’re done for as a company. I bet about 3-4 people bought one.
Yeah, but if it saves just one life, isn’t that worth it?
Excuse me while I go throw up now.
Oh well that’s the breaks(sic)…yeah you guys unvarnished truth is why I’m here(even with your horribly functioning site). Not a dandy little pocket pistol????????????
“Within minutes of the change, numerous concealed carriers began gun fighting in the city hall and spilling out into the streets…”
Oh wait that didn’t happen, because concealed carry people actually don’t want to shoot anyone….
What happens if you hit the back of it with a hammer or drop it on the ground with so it lands on the striker plate?
id like to see some actual innovation, not more meme calibers like .224 valk that only servers to separate people from their money while proving useful for less than 1% of people in the industry
Intriguing for sure. I’m sure Glock, S&W, and Springfield are trying to modify their sub compacts now to allow for a double stack. If it proves to be drop safe, I can see it getting a lot of wear.
Looks like it might compete handily against the Sig 320 subcompact, a little smaller dimensions, 10-12 rds vs 12, thinner, no removable trigger frame, definitely lighter. People seem to be fixated on thin and light so this should accomplish that goal compared to more traditional double stack subcompacts like the g26 or vp9sk, though how it shoots compared would be a question.
The price probably won’t be a problem if it is reliable, Sig fans will buy it and others might as well, if you can get a little more gun for the money. Shield and PPS are cheap and decent but price shouldn’t be the first question if this is going to be a gun you depend on to survive.
Been looking for a new carry gun, and this one checks all the boxes so far.
Looking forward to the TTAG review.
Domestic violence TROs are valid for no more than 3 weeks in most states (absent an agreed extension), and unless brought to trial on a permanent DVRO within the time frame established by law, expire by their own terms. Upon expiration of the TRO, gun rights are restored. Such orders have been repeatedly upheld as not violating due process of law for two reasons: 1) they can only be issued by a judicial officer upon satisfactory proof through signed affidavits, and 2) they are a short term order intended to preserve the peace until a contested hearing can be held on adequate notice. Long or permanent orders cannot be justified without a hearing and an opportunity to be heard. Moreover, some states allow the subject of the order 24 hours to rid him/herself of firearms by storage with an ffl, transfer to other persons, etc., thus protecting property rights.
Are such orders more than occasionally vindictive? Certainly, but in the vast majority of cases, those TROs are never brought to trial as the spouse obtaining the order wants to avoid being questioned as to the truth of the allegations.
Do I approve of such orders? Absolutely. Anyone who works in this area knows full well that an abusive spouse served with such an order, or a petition for divorce, is likely to react with anger, threats of violence, and actual violence. Phone calls, stalking, hammering on the door at all hours of the night (because these TROs contain stay-away orders as well), etc. Obviously no piece of paper will stop a rampaging spouse, but taking the guns at least makes him or her somewhat less deadly.
Holly jeebus…..what was that?
There is a list of folks and furries who rate higher than others.
White, southern, veterans, conservative gun owners who are straight are at the bottom of the list.
Lucky actually not to have a season, no bag limit and tags sold each year LOL!
Fact is if all these hyphenated humans shut up about their specialness no one would notice or care BUT that is the problem with a lack of attention which these human/furries crave.
My three choices for a hiking gun: 12 gauge autoloader, Uzi 9mm, and .45 Long Slide. I had another choice but the store owner’s response was “just what you see, pal”.
I’m not sure that the firearms industry needs saving. The executives are just unhappy that they’re not making as much money as they did when Obama was threatening to
impose common sense gun control regulationstake all of our guns away. Obviously, to bring the good old days back, the firearms industry executives need another Communist president and enough (real) Republicans in Congress to block any new gun legislation.Quite a few pro gun states on that list, you only think you live in a free state until they toss your collection in the trunk and drive away.
Is everyone forgetting about the greatest carry gun ever…DESERT EAGLE point five oh?
Just ask Bullet-Tooth Tony.
So I carry 2 speed strips and 3 speed loaders…. but those are just for my BUG.
Your move.
They will legalize supressors but then make all firearms illegal. They will spend hundreds of millions to defend their losing action which will have gotten a boost from the 9th Circus Court. They will only stop when there is only enough money left to continue all the benefits they give illegals.