SAF: If Nancy Pelosi is Lying About Child Gun Deaths, What Else is She Fibbing About?

Nancy Pelosi

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

By Second Amendment Foundation

Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has been called out by the Washington Post Fact Checker for repeating a blatant falsehood about the number of children who die every day from so-called “gun violence,” and today the Second Amendment Foundation wonders what else she’s been lying about.

“Fact Checker Glenn Kessler plays no favorites,” noted SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb, “and when he slaps Pelosi with four ‘Pinocchios’ for repeatedly using a canard, she’s got it coming.”

Pelosi has repeatedly claimed that 100 people die every day from “gun violence,” and asserted that 47 of them are children and teens. But the Washington Post did some math, noting that 60 percent of firearms-related deaths are suicides, and wrote “It seemed strange that so many children would be killing themselves with guns.”

The newspaper checked data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and concluded Pelosi was way off base, yet she has repeated the false narrative.

“If Pelosi perpetuates this lie about guns,” Gottlieb wondered, “what else is she being dishonest about? This is the kind of deliberate misinformation that should attract extra scrutiny for anything she says, about guns, taxes, the economy or any other social issue.

“What is truly alarming about this,” he continued, “is that far too many people have accepted Pelosi’s falsehood as fact. She has fabricated a misleading and inflammatory argument in support of further restrictions on law-abiding gun owners and she was getting away with it until the Washington Post Fact Checker called her on it.

“Speaker Pelosi and her anti-gun Democrat colleagues may think it’s okay to dupe the American public,” Gottlieb observed, “but we don’t. Creating a false narrative, and then acting on it, is a bad idea and really bad politics because eventually you’re going to get caught.”

 

The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation’s oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control.

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  1. avatar jwm says:

    Everything. She’s a socialist talking head. They have to lie. Lies are all they have. She’s currently engaged in a coup attempt against the legally elected .gov. She tells the truth and she gets stood against a wall.

    1. avatar WOLFSTONE says:

      DOPelosi

    2. avatar James Campbell says:

      The Dumbocrats have a sure tell when they lie, if the lips are moving, they’re lying.
      100% of the time.

    3. avatar Roymond says:

      “Coup attempt”?

      Somebody doesn’t know their Constitution: the House is operating under its authority, which means that there’s no “coup attempt”, just a constitutional process at work.

      Don’t be a Pelosi — get your stuff right.

    4. avatar Patty Mogensen says:

      Nancy is a liar……she ragged on a person who asked her if she hated Trump….She got all huffy, said I am a Catholic I don’t hate anyone….but she is for abortion. That is a big no-no in Catholicism……

  2. avatar American Patriot says:

    The Democraps just have to LIE, that’s just what they were raised to do because facts are just toooo hard to find.

  3. avatar Dude says:

    “We don’t want to impeach Trump. We have to uphold the Constitution.” -Honest Nancy

    1. avatar Southern Cross says:

      The Trump Derangement Syndrome is reaching its height.

  4. avatar Dennis says:

    That’s easy, pretty much everything!

  5. avatar Merle 0 says:

    Everything.

  6. avatar Dude says:

    She missed a good chance to be an extra on The Walking Dead.

    1. avatar CC Ryder says:

      Yes and she wouldn’t even have get any make-up put on for the part.

    2. avatar James Campbell says:

      IIRC, she was the cryptkeeper on HBO back in the 2000s. She looked much better back then.

  7. avatar Ralph says:

    Pelosi lies when she says “Hello.”

  8. avatar Steven Ford says:

    Isn’t it a Felony to be caught lying to Congress?

    1. avatar Rusty - Molon Labe - Chains says:

      Not for Congressmen, on the floor they can tell any lie, they can slander any person or group with no repercussion since they specifically exempted themselves. Just like they can trade stocks with insider information and get rich doing it. And lying to Congress only applies when the person doing it is giving sworn testimony.

      1. avatar Super Frustrated in VA says:

        Look up Pelosi and I believe it was Chase stock. Look up how much money she got for information that was given to her and her husband before she took a vote…..Think it might have been 60 minutes that covered this several years ago. Yes, her and Bull Shift can lie all they want with repercussions.

    2. avatar RGP says:

      Yes and they’ll put YOU in jail for it…. unless you’re one of them, in which case do it all you want. It’s been a tyrannical congress for a long time. They literally exempt themselves from practically every law they pass.

      1. avatar DNFU says:

        There should be a law outlawing the practice of making themselves exempt from any law they pass.

        1. avatar Dude says:

          Except they make the laws. So it ain’t gonna happen. They look out for themselves first. Remember when they made themselves a sweet little carve out so they wouldn’t be affected by Obamacare?

  9. Pelosi and her fellow traitors are lying about EVERYTHING concerning our right, as is shown by the U.S. Constitution, Article II of amendment, Restrictive clause:

    “the Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall NOT be infringed.”

    Our governments were expressly denied the authority to interfere with our right, which the democratic party has systematically violated. Most, if not all of the deaths due to violence committed by the illegal use of firearms. Can directly be attributed to prior infringements of our Constitutionally secured right. For it is easily shown by historical statistics that crime has always INCREASED after unconstitutional gun control laws – NEVER decreased. Yet the traitors keep passing these unconstitutional laws regardless of the actual facts.

    Our firearms death problems are directly caused by the unconstitutional laws enacted by the democratic party, (for the most part). For an armed people are a free and safe people. A restricted or outright disarmed people are nothing more than slaves.

  10. avatar Rickster says:

    What hasn’t she lied about would be the question of the day .

  11. avatar Paul Hill says:

    Scrotum face and her cronies are the ones responsible for the violence that we witness today. They are the ones protecting criminals like they are endangered species. The only people that seem to have rights in this country are criminals and illegal aliens. It is so much easier to blame us than themselves. Pelosi is nothing but a Stalin wannabe.

  12. avatar Nanashi says:

    “What Else is She Fibbing About?”
    Well we know the following was a lie, and she’s repeats it every two years.
    “I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

    1. avatar Southern Cross says:

      She had her fingers crossed behind her back so the oath doesn’t count.

      1. avatar RGP says:

        Damn! Fingers crossed means no oath so whatever she does is legal…

  13. avatar Brunelda says:

    This looks like an assault picture. There ought to be a law.

    1. avatar eagle10 says:

      I thought it was her halloween costume. Damn that is FUGLY.

  14. avatar TexasJack says:

    well she’s a fkn’ liberaltard… we know she’s lying because her lips are moving… with or without her dentures

  15. avatar WI Patriot says:

    “If”…??? She’s been lying all along and has lied about everything…

  16. avatar Peegeetwo says:

    Maybe a better question/thread would be what ha/ she told the truth about?

  17. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

    Nearly 10,000 American children are injured or killed by guns every year

    http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/the-toll-gun-violence-children

    Over 7,000 children are hospitalized or killed due to gun violence every year, according to a new study published in the medical journal Pediatrics. An additional 3,000 children die from gun injuries before making it to the hospital, bringing the total number of injured or killed adolescents to 10,000 each year.

    The new study, led by researchers at the Yale School of Medicine, highlights the toll gun violence has on child mortality rates in the country. Doctors surveyed the most recently released data from 2009 that tracked pediatric hospital stays.

    “This study reinforces what we know from the mortality data,” Daniel Webster, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, told NBC News. “We have an extraordinary health burden in our youth associated with firearms injuries.”

    In the 2009 Kids’ Inpatient Database (KID), 7,391 children under the age of 20 had been hospitalized for injuries from firearms and the majority of those gunshot injuries —4,559—resulted from intentional firearm assaults. 2,149 of those injured were accidents, and 270 were suicide attempts. Of the children who were hospitalized, 453 – 6% – died from their injuries.

    “That’s more than 7,000 children injured badly enough to be hospitalized,” said the study’s lead author, Dr. John Leventhal, a pediatrics professor at the Yale School of Medicine. “All are unnecessary hospitalizations because preventing gun violence is something that can actually be done.”

    Levanthal pointed out that parents should keep their guns locked in a safe hiding place and keep them separate from the ammunition to decrease the high number of accidental injuries, especially for smaller children.

    HILLBILLIES THAT LEAVE LOADED GUNS OUT ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY OF THE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS BECAUSE THEY LET THEIR KIDS HAVE ACCESS TO GUNS. AND IT ALSO RESULTS IN MANY CHILD SUICIDES. ANOTHER REASON FOR SAFE STORAGE LAWS.

    SAVE A CHILD’S LIFE, PUT A HILLBILLY IN PRISON AND THROW THE KEY AWAY THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF CIVILIZED BEHAVIOR.

    1. avatar ‘liljoe says:

      Hey Vlad… ever wonder how they define children? And why do they do that if not to inflate their numbers?

      Also, if you take out inner city Eutopias like Chicago, Ny, LA… what does the number drop to? All of those cities have draconian (see what I did there?) gun laws.

      1. avatar Vlad II , Voivode Of Wallaicha, Father Of Vlad (III Dracula) Tepes says:

        Like I’ve explained before, he wouldn’t always do this, just his middle school got him a library card in around ’08, and he’s been at the public library talking trash almost every day since. Also, as explained, when we moved to Fresno he had some weird homo pothead history teacher back in high school that would brainwash him with that liberal crap.

        1. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

          Time for supper junior. Your mothers calling you again. Quit bothering adults on the internet. Send your e-mails to your teenage buddies.

        2. avatar Someone says:

          Psst, Voivode, your country is named Wallachia, not Wallaicha.

      2. avatar Southern Cross says:

        In some studies, the children can be as old as 25.

      3. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

        TO LILJOE

        “”””””””””””””” ever wonder how they define children? And why do they do that if not to inflate their numbers?.””””””””””””””””””””””””””

        Its been known for over 5,000 years by the Sadists who run Militaries that young men do not mature until age 25. Here is part of an NPR interview with a neuroscientist who does know more than you do about children and maturity.

        TONY COX, host: I’m Tony Cox and this is TELL ME MORE from NPR News. Michel Martin is away. We’d like to spend this part of the program talking about the passage from childhood to adulthood and how that may be tougher for one distinct group of young people.

        Most of the privileges and responsibilities of adulthood are legally granted by the age of 18. That’s when you can vote, enlist in the military, move out on your own, but is that the true age of maturity? A growing body of science says, no. That critical parts of the brain involved in decision-making are not fully developed until years later at age 25 or so.

        In a moment, we’ll hear about how child advocates are hoping to use this research to change the laws about their foster care. But first, to learn more about adolescent brain development and maturity, we are joined now by neuroscientist, Sandra Aamodt. She is the coauthor of the book, “Welcome to Your Child’s Brain: How the Mind Grows from Conception to College.”

        NOW LETS HERE YOU PONTIFICATE ON HOW MUCH MORE YOU KNOW THAN A NEUROSCIENTIST

        1. avatar Southern Cross says:

          You didn’t answer the question. You should go into politics.

        2. avatar Leighton Cavendish says:

          So….no voting, drinking or driving before 25?
          Can’t enter into ANY contracts, either.
          Agreed?

        3. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Can you provide evidence of some kind of university degree this “neuroscientist” has earned, or is he simply a poseur?
          BTW, there is a difference between “hear” and “here”. Dumbass.

        4. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

          To Larryin Texas

          “””””””””””””””””””””Can you provide evidence of some kind of university degree this “neuroscientist” has earned, or is he simply a poseur?””””””””””””””””””””

          Its obvious your reading comprehension is very low as well as the fact you never read the entire post. If you had you would have read HER NAME.

          At any rate here is the entire interview.

          https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=141164708

        5. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

          TO Southern Cross

          “”””””””””””””You didn’t answer the question. You should go into politics.”””””””””””””””

          No you need a remedial reading course. Have some one explain it to you.

        6. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

          to Leighton

          ++++++++++++++++So….no voting, drinking or driving before 25?
          Can’t enter into ANY contracts, either.
          Agreed?++++++++++++++++++++

          That’s another subject we could talk hours on but it is interesting to note that the States realize the problem with young drivers and some already have raised the age limit for driving. In the not to distant future it will become illegal to drive your own car as all the cars will be run by computer. Insurance companies have proven people under 25 have more accidents so the proof is again validated on the immaturity of people under 25.

          As far as drinking over 25 would be an excellent law to pass. I have no problem with that at all.

          As far as contracts yes it would be a good idea to require an adult signature and for orphans with no parents then guardians and if no guardians than under a civilized Socialistic Country a free Lawyer would be provided. Its the way civilized countries would do it.

          As far as voting there are solutions to those problems as well which would require college level civics courses that one must pass or not get the right to vote and they should include the ignorant Adults who were suckered into following the pied piper of racism and hate Herr Drumpf. How many would have voted for Trump if they had passed such courses in civics, sociology, psychology and anthropology? Only the deranged would have. Educated people spotted Trumps charade and Hitlerite ideology early on in his campaign of racism and hate. I might add such courses would not be necessary if our High School level courses mimicked college courses. Many foreign countries have upgraded their secondary educational courses to near college level decades ago. Why haven’t we? When a nut case like Trump gets elected that is all the proof we need for upgraded educational courses.

          Just a few ideas but there of course could be many more. It is not important that these exact suggestions be adopted but that we do something to correct the problems we have with underage immature people.

        7. avatar jwm says:

          Vlad. Like a true fascist you don’t hesitate to restrict voting rights to only those that see things your way.

          Tell me again how you are any different from this imaginary herr drumph character you created in your mind?

        8. avatar Southern Cross says:

          Hitlerite? I haven’t heard that term since Soviet era propaganda. Does say something about your mindset. Do you ever think about the world you want? It looks like one full of logical contradictions. For 70 years the Soviet Union tried to create “The New Soviet Man” who would imbue all the ideals of the socialist ethic. What they got was “Homo Sovieticus” which was the polar opposite.

        9. avatar Someone says:

          Sorry, Vlad, I didn’t read your last novel either, so I can’t explain it to Southern Cross.

        10. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

          to JWM

          Ha Ha told you so. Herr Drumpf gets impeached. Loved every minute of seeing those lying Republicans saying “We don’t care what he did and we don’t care about destroying American and making it into a dictatorship where the President is above the law.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-impeached-by-the-house-creating-an-indelible-mark-on-his-presidency/ar-BBY8I57?li=BBnbkly

        11. avatar jwm says:

          hahaha, vlad. The impeachment means nothing. Just a bunch of leftist throwing a tantrum. It will make sure that Trump gets a second term and he continues to load the courts.

          You are the fascist. And the mask has slipped off. It’s time to break the fascists hold on America. Watch what Trump does in the next four years.

          I’m already laughing. A poorly educated drop out such as yourself still doesn’t have a clue what’s coming.

    2. avatar Southern Cross says:

      It isn’t hillbillies leaving guns out for children. It is the single mom’s latest squeeze who leaves his gun on the table while smoking crack or meth.

      Is there a breakdown of the locations where these deaths and injuries occur? How many occurred in urban areas of depressed socioeconomic activity among minority demographics?

    3. avatar Leighton Cavendish says:

      and the 800,000 or so pre-children that are aborted every year?
      oh wait…we redefine the definition of life for that case…
      I am OK with it…population control/reduction…

    4. avatar LarryinTX says:

      Hey Vlad, you’re quoting MSNBC to us? Really? It is stupid to spend tax money on CDC and FBI duplicating record keeping, but at least they have some semblance of reality. And last I heard, your sources list as “children” all persons who have not reached their twenty second birthday, which would include the huge majority of demographically challenged gang bangers who so delight in killing each other, and whom I so delight in seeing to be killing each other.

      1. avatar Southern Cross says:

        What is not often said is not can the CDC do research into firearm casualties, they HAVE been doing the research. But the results and conclusions did not match the current political expectations.

      2. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

        to Larry
        ++++++++=whom I so delight in seeing to be killing each other.==============

        Spoken like a true Right Wing Racist. A Trump worshiper no doubt. Your reply is sick, demented and racist beyond all human decency. And where Dear Genius do you think kids get guns to kill each other with. I will spell it out for you so even you can understand it.

        They get them from parents who leave loaded guns laying around,

        They get them because we have no safe storage laws that also let criminals steel them.

        They get them from unvetted guns on the street because we have no Universal Background checks,

        “”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””BTW, there is a difference between “hear” and “here”. Dumbass””””””””””””

        .And as far as the error on proof reading so I let one slip by. Drop dead asshole.

        1. avatar jwm says:

          Your lack of education is showing, vlad. And have you looked out side of your echo chamber lately? We are on the verge of nationwide constitutional carry. Even the 9th circuit is no longer predominately socialist. Your side got co-opted by a rich old white man. Even a dem congress critter has seen the light and is converting to gop. And your girl, greta, is on the ropes. You should have gotten serious at Kent State and got a useful career. You future is minimum wage and loneliness. Have a nice day, now.

          Trump will be our next president and he will have his way with the courts.

        2. avatar Southern Cross says:

          Don’t you know Vlad has several degrees and a diverse share portfolio? So that makes him better than all of us.

        3. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

          to JWM our Stable Genius

          “”””””””””””””””””””Trump will be our next president and he will have his way with the courts.””””””””””””””””””””””””””

          Tell me another one he just got impeached today and if you think that will not sway a lot of independent voters your living in your own fantasy world.

          By the way I have a sincere question to ask you. You kiss the stinking rectum of this faker and he dodged the draft yet you still worship his behind. And here is the part that really baffles me. Early this year he insulted you and all Vietnam Veterans when he said and I quote: “Only an idiot would have went to Vietnam”. Yet you still love smelling his rectum gas. You must be related to Marquis de Sade

          Trump was right about one thing when he implied only the low intellect people would worship him to the point that if he shot someone in broad daylight on 5th avenue they would love him all the more. Its the only time ever told the truth about anything. Its unbelievable that his glazed eye follower look past the thousands of lies he as been caught telling when corrected with actual video of him saying or doing the opposite yet it is completely ignored by his glazed eyed followers.

          My old Geography teacher a half century ago was correct when he said, “My parents are so dumb they would vote for Hitler if he ran on the Republican ticket” Fifty plus years later things have not changed one iota with such people as they are as ignorant today as they were back then, you included. Only this time we do not have Hitler we have his reincarnation Herr Drumpf. Funny you never caught on to that.

        4. avatar jwm says:

          When you lie about your age vlad, it creates distrust in all your comments. You’re no more than 30. You argue like a 13yo which means you’re a product of the modern public school system.

          When you are 50-60 years old, providing you haven’t gone against the wall before then, you can remember that it was good old jwm that foretold your future. A lifetime of poverty and minimum wage jobs and leaching off the .gov.

          You were too low intellect to realize that tilting at windmills isn’t a money making career. And with socialism broken in this country you’re going to have to survive on your merits. In your case, that’s a bleak future.

          Have nice day.

    5. avatar James Campbell says:

      More cut n paste BS from avatarmoreadventuresonotherplanets.
      If he ever loses his paid troll gig, he can open up a fertilizer supply business.
      He produces bullshit by the ton, and on a daily basis.
      Just sit him in your field with a laptop and BAM, job done.

    6. avatar I1UlUZ says:

      ” children under the age of 20″. Wait, I thought 18 and 19 were voting age legal ADULTS. Can we say padding their numbers, how many were gang members? Nothing like including the most likely years where hoodrats are more inclined to possess their first stolen pistol then try it out on a rival gang member.

      Who demanded John Hopkins have an ARMED security force? Daddy Warbucks Bloomyburg. I do believe he even bankrolled it, DO AS I DEMAND, GIVE UP YOUR DIRTY FIREARMS, NOT AS I DEMAND TO PROTECT MY VALUABLE MINIONS WHO DO MY BIDDING BY WRITING BS STUDIES.

    7. avatar Super Frustrated in VA says:

      OK, riddle me this, HOW many Kids have been killed by abortion? Bet it is more and they don’t care about them do they…..

  18. avatar rt66paul says:

    How many school shootings have been done by the children of hillbillies? Most children of people that have a gun readily available know how to use it, know what it does, and are very aware of the consequences of it’s use.
    If we would teach children what it is to hunt and how to clean the kill and the guns afterward, most kids would not want anything to do with firearms. Take the mystery out of it and end the glorification. Yes, movies and video games are teaching the wrong message – they are not making kids killers, but do not teach responsibility of handling firearms.

    1. avatar Dude says:

      How many are done by kids with a good relationship with their parents? Personally, I think that’s the key.

      1. avatar James Campbell says:

        That’s a huge factor. The left will never admit it because they want to replace the parents with the beauracracy/government. Truly a bunch of MONSTERS.

  19. avatar Timothy Toroian says:

    Mucho!!

  20. avatar MADDMAXX says:

    What Else is She Fibbing About? If her lips are moving she is lying… In other words EVERYTHING…..

  21. avatar DNFU says:

    A politician especially a Leftist Democrat is caught lying, who would have thought. You might as well post a news flash that she was breathing as well.

    Leftists politicians lying about guns is not a new story either. They inflate firearms deaths by including suicides, police interventions, accidental deaths, and anything else that they can find. They completely underplay how often firearms save lives in America. And they absolutely reel if you get them to even acknowledge that MILLIONS of crimes are stopped by armed citizens in America annually. Even mass shooters have been stopped by armed civilians. But they will never allow the public to hear about this, let alone publicize any of the positives of gun owners, as it would go against their narrative that armed civilians are all blood thirsty killers with no morals or self control.

    Legal gun owners are more law abiding than police in most cases. Legal concealed carry permit holders make up 0.7% of the firearms deaths annually, despite there being over 17 million of us in America, not counting those in states where you do not need a permit. Then of that 0.7% we are cleared as having been justified in shooting in self defense in almost every case of these roughly 100 or shootings.

    There have only been 2 actual murders with a legal fully automatic weapon in America since 1934, and one of those by a law enforcement officer. So only 1 of the half a million or so privately owned legal machine guns has ever been used in a murder. So what is all the ruckus about full auto machine guns about?

    Assault Weapons, a completely made up term, are only semi-automatic rifles that happen to look similar to an actual combat rifle. ALL rifles including the so called Assault Rifles account for roughly 400 to 450 deaths annually for all of America combined. Chicago alone accounts for more murders than this annually, almost double this number in fact. So again what is all the ruckus about?

    Of the actual murders committed with firearms the majority are actually gang related killings, and almost all are committed with illegal firearms. Usually pistols. So no amount of gun control laws will ever stop these murders from happening as criminals do not obey gun control laws, any more than they obey the law not to murder.

    The only people made safer by gun control laws are criminals, as it makes citizens into easy prey for armed criminals.

    The only group of people who fear so called “assault weapons” exclusively seems to be Leftist Politicians, be they Democrat or RINO’s. This pretty well proves that Leftist Politicians are planning to do some truly nasty things to the populous of America, because if they were not planning to do something that will get them shot at they would not care how many guns you have, nor what type they are.

  22. avatar Someone says:

    Leftists lie, nothing new there. The problem is that even if they get caught, the shitty laws they pushed through based on their lies still get enforced.
    – “Wait, we passed this bill when we thought we have an “epidemy of gun violence” on our hands. Turns out it was another leftist lie, so never mind the gun grabbing law, it is null and void!” -No one ever.

  23. avatar Nelson says:

    How do we know Pee-on-losi is lieing ,her lips are MOVING ! ! ! ! ™®🚬🔫

  24. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    “If Nancy Pelosi is Lying About Child Gun Deaths, What Else is She Fibbing About?”

    The Communist witch doesn’t fib she just straight up lies about everything.

  25. avatar tlc says:

    The Eastern US county I live in is rural and has had a grand total of ten homicide incidents in the last thirty years, all but two involving multiple deaths. Five were vehicular, two blunt force trauma (one by metal baseball bat, one by rock; all seven involved both alchohol AND narcotics), the remaining three involving firearms. One was an ‘officer involved’ shooting where a State Police officer was attacked by a 26 year-old high on PCP, one an abused wife shooting the stalker husband she was trying to divorce, one a ‘family anniahlator’ (I’m sure I spelled that wrong) who killed his wife and three of his four children with an illegally obtained shotgun. (He stole it from Daddy’s locked gun safe by threatening his stepmother so she would open it for him.) He has been doing life without parole for the past 25 years.

    My point? Even statistically cars are responsible for more deaths in my county than firearms. But where are the new laws banning cars? Didn’t even make it to committee. Because vehicles are tools and guns are weapons. Or so Congress has decreed.

    Well, I drive my weapon and lock my tools up in a state of the art gun safe. By the way, my township of residence has NO law enforcement at the local level, leaving us dependent on the State Police. Whose response time is AT BEST one hour or more from the station in the southern end of the county. (I live on the northern state line.) And yes, that shotgun welding maniac lived in my township; he killed the last town sheriff and deputy trying to escape the house. the homeowners on either side used 00 Buckshot to great effect to keep him inside until the State Police got there. (One of the officers openly wished they had been able to get a good headshot on him.)

    Now, what do you have to say about this?

  26. avatar Anon says:

    I do appreciate the calm, reasoned discussions here.

    1. avatar Someone says:

      You are late for that. Couple of years late.

  27. What hasn’t she lied about would be the question of the day .
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