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From Canada’s National Firearm Association daily media report [h/t Steve S.]:

December 17, 2013
Airdrie, Alberta

Mr. Ian McPhail, Q.C., Interim Chair
Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP
National Intake Office
P.O. Box 88689,
Surrey, BC  VEW 0X1

Dear Mr. McPhail:

RE:  HIGH RIVER – LONG-GUN REGISTRY RECORDS USED IN FIREARMS SEIZURES!

Reference is being made to our four previous letters sent to you outlining the many issues and concerns that need to be examined during your investigation of the RCMP’s break-in and unwarranted search of more than 1,900 homes in High River and the seizure of hundreds of firearms and hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammunition . . .

I want to thank you for sending your investigator, Robert Falla, to Calgary to interview me last week.  It was very reassuring to know the depth of your investigation even though I understand the limitations the Commission has under your legislative mandate and terms of reference.  Please let us know if we can be of any more help with your investigation of these fundamental human rights and Charter violations in the weeks and months ahead.

In our letter dated August 27, 2013, we provided expert analysis of the audio portion of a RCMP propaganda video of their search of  a High River home during the flood.  Our audio-visual expert stated the person heard in the radio transmission clearly says he’s “located all the firearms.”  These four words would indicate that the RCMP not only knew there were firearms in the house but also the exact number of firearms in the house.  We alerted you to this evidence given that the long-gun registry was supposed to be destroyed in 2012.  Now it is possible the RCMP radio transmission may have been referring to only restricted or prohibited firearms which still need to be registered; however, while this is a possibility it is not all that likely.

Today, I am providing supporting evidence that the RCMP were using long-gun registry records in their search for firearms in the High River homes.  The White’s told me this story on September 13, 2013.  Yesterday, Don and Jane White of High River gave me permission to release this information to you. When Don White went to the High River RCMP Detachment to pick up his 11 trigger-locked long guns, the RCMP officer told him that two of his long-guns weren’t registered. Don White responded, “That’s right, the two new shotguns we just bought!”  The only possible way the RCMP Constable knew that two of his long-guns weren’t registered is if he had access to a copy of the old long-gun registry listing of their guns – a listing that was supposed to be destroyed last November in accordance with an Act of Parliament.

In our last letter, we exposed a number of lies the RCMP told the media and public during the events as they unfolded in High River. But all the RCMP lies noted in that letter were told on or after June 28th.  On PAGE 93 of the RCMP’s response to ATI Act file: A-2103-04354 there is a CBNewsNet transcript for June 24 at 1:02 PM that states: “200 RCMP officers along with locksmiths as well as military personnel now going door to door checking on homes and checking to see if anyone stranded.”  The reference to “locksmiths” is not the whole truth because we also have an RCMP officer’s notes proving that on that same day, June 24, 2013 the RCMP were also kicking in doors and seizing firearms – NOT simply going door-to-door searching for survivors and finding guns that were in “plain view”!  We understand your investigators have all the notes taken by RCMP officers during the seven or eight days they searched High River homes.  It should be an easy task to prepare a time line showing the dates and times when people were rescued by the RCMP and the dates and times when firearms were seized.

Finally, on page 92 of the response to our RCMP ATIP file A-2013-04354, it shows that in addition to the 223 RCMP officers deployed in High River during the flood, there were 310 Canadian Forces personnel in High River, many of whom were witnesses to the unwarranted search and seizure operations in High River. During my e-mail communications with National Defence in October, we were told that documentation does exist from soldiers in response to Item #4 of our ATI Act request for records of ‘complaints and witness accounts of any inappropriate or illegal action observed while working in High River’.  Will you be interviewing any of the 310 Canadian Forces personnel that were deployed in High River?

Please let me know if I can be of any further help to your investigation.

Sincerely,
Dennis R. Young
Alberta, NWT & International Director
Canada’s National Firearms Association
1330 Ravenswood Drive SE
Airdrie, Alberta  T4A 0P8

Phone: 587-360-1111

email: [email protected]

cc:

The Right Honourable Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada
The Honourable Steven Blaney, Minister of Public Safety
RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson

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64 COMMENTS

    • It’s not the criminal or terrorist I’m worried about; I’m well trained in the use of a weapon and I have good situational awareness; and I don’t hang out with stupid people doing stupid things; it’s the government that sees me and people like me as a threat to their desire to have a monopoly of force; and like any criminal organization; if you threaten their monopoly; they will use any means necessary to eliminate the threat.

        • You mean Canada’s bureaucrats. In many ways, this is an attack on the Conservative government by the bureaucracy (of whom the RCMP are members) for their cutting of government budgets. The government is trying to get the deficits under control, and there has been a lot of pushback, assisted by a compliant media. The RCMP are only somewhat under government control. The bureaucracy is a power unto itself, and there’s a war going on. The Conservatives are hopping mad over this violation of law, and have made it clear to the RCMP. We’ll have to see who is stronger- the elected government or the bureaucracy (assisted by the media and the opposition parties)

  1. December 18, 2013

    Dear Mr. Young –

    Thank you for your recent inquiry concerning High River. I was very sorry to hear about your tragic automobile accident and the ensuing explosion. We hope that you are released from the Intensive Care Ward soon, and look forward to your recovery in due course.

    Sincerely, etc.

    Mr. Ian McPhail, Q.C., Interim Chair
    Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP

  2. Who would ever TRUST any Government Official, elected or appointed. They are too subject to influence or corruption. Always verify!

  3. I tell you Canada is slowly becoming a communist country. The government there controls everything and I mean every thing. We should not let any of their ideologies cross our border. I believe we are on the right track standing up to our government and let our voices be heard. Let’s keep up what we have been doing every time our government tries to introduce new guns law.
    Thank God we left Canada!

    • The issue at hand is called “the politics of human scale”. As our nation gets more populace, the number of elected representatives does not grow in number to reflect the change in population. Over time we begin to consolidate more and more power over the people to a smaller and smaller percentage of politicians in relation to the population. This increase in power leads to corruption, narcissism, and less accountability.

    • And I tell you that we’re getting better, not worse, laws-wise. We’ve seen big improvements up here, like the elimination of the Wheat Board, reduction in taxes, simplification of regulations (like getting the DFO out of the business of looking at farmer’s ditches), and the elimination of the Long Gun registry. Nothing is certain, but things are looking up. Yes, we have a long way to go, but every journey begins with a single step. At least it’s a step in the right, rather than wrong direction. We could be moving in the direction of Australia.

      As for this issue, it’s nothing new for the RCMP. Cleaning house is going to take time and effort, but this is a direct attack on Conservative supporters. It isn’t going over well.

      • The problem is right there with their name, “Royal.” Mankind will never be free until the last vestiges of monarchies dies.

        • Don’t think Stalin appointed himself Tsar?

          The Canadians had multiple opportunities to join the US and received the gift of The Constitution. The loved/love eurup/france too much.

  4. “But if it only saves one life to impose oppressive restrictions…”

    Sure. Right up until the minute the grannies-glasses tofu-eating urbanites decide they want to send troops abroad to die in a useless conflict. At that point they’ll hand you all the select-fire guns you want. They won’t give a damn about the foreign collateral damage. They’ll cheer you on as they give interviews wearing their clothing made in Bangladesh death factories. And when you get back from that conflict they’ll tell you you can no longer be trusted with a pheasant gun. For your own good. Because they’re paranoid.

    Hypocrisy. It’s the new black.

  5. We need to invade Canada and liberate all of the Canadian peoples from their fascist government. Instead of Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, Canada is right next door, our supply tail would not be all that long, and I imagine the Canadians would actually be grateful to be rid of their police state.

    Afterwards, after all the dust settles, maybe they would be so generous as to return the favor – come South across the line and liberate us from our police state.

    • Totally didn’t work in 1812. Our friends to the north are apparently happy with their pseudo autonomy and we should be happy they are friends. We are frankly not doing a very good job right now selling the Constitutional Republic model, both here and abroad.

      I think almost every single one of our current enemies is the fault of our country meddling in elections of these countries, causing all of them them to swing from tepid neutrality to outright hostility. Nixon is the root of a majority of our current financial and diplomatic problems. Had to study Russian and Cold War history for the clep tests and its insane the crimes these people have committed on both sides.

      • Given the current occupant of the oval office… well you kinda start missing a man with the honor and integrity of Richard M. Nixon….

    • We’re not in a position to help anyone. Our government listens to its people less than the Canadian govt, it just happens that most Canadians want socialism.

      Besides, you can’t liberate others. They can only take and keep what they value.

  6. Could you please add links to the previous articles about this topic to the end of this article? I could not find them in a search, and I think others would benefit as well.

  7. And again……Remember ARMENIA!! The Turks made national registration, the Armenians were using whatever they could scrounge to buy broken guns so when the Turks came to check they had something to turn in. If they had nothing they were accused of lying and beaten.

    Communisum had killed more people than Religion, All wars since the Revolution and then some. Over 95 Million in the 20th century.

    First take their guns.

  8. Allow to finish that sentence for you:

    “…confiscation.

    The only reason for registration is, always has been, and always will be confiscation.

    Gun control has only ever gotten people killed. Usually by their own governments, too. Governments have killed more people in the 20th century than in all the rest of human history combined, with over a third of them being killed by Communism by the way, to the tune 262 million people. Imagine 80% of the U.S. or almost half the E.U. disappearing. That is the only thing that ever happens to a disarmed populace. That is the only place that gun control leads. That is gun control’s only legacy.

    • The Canadians were busy being evacuated after terrible rains flooded the entire area. It was while the residents were evacuated that the Mounties came in and got their search on.

      • Here’s the point I don’t understand… what justified the seizure of guns from homes that had been abandoned? If everything was flooded, who was going to be going around looting stuff? or is this just a reprise of what the NOPD did after Katrina? Who came up with the idea come from that citizens ought to be disarmed in the middle of a natural catastrophe? Isn’t that when they might need their firearms the most? I’d love to hear the rational for confiscation in these circumstances.

  9. Oh come one. That sort of thing (police going door-to-door to confiscate guns) cannot happen in the United States because we are different. For example, hurricane Katrina devastated the gulf coast and yet the police did not go door-to-door confiscating guns. Oh, wait …

    As it so happens, the police DID in fact go door-to-door confiscating firearms in Louisiana immediately following hurricane Katrina. And that reflects the attitude these days of many in law enforcement and government. We need to push back HARD on that front.

    • Some parts of the state had citizens shooting at the popos before they got 1/2 way down their driveway. It wasn’t a complete capitulation. Stories of the police confiscating guns and looting homes spread fast, and some of the populace were very proactive in stopping it.

      • Your comment is the first time I have ever heard of this … and I thought I was pretty read-up on the subject. This needs to be the topic of a post all by itself. What credible sources are available to support this?

        Having asked for credible sources, I realize that most people would be reluctant to publicly describe how they shot at police half-way up their driveway — even if the police were there to illegally confiscate firearms and loot homes.

  10. If you have to evacuate due to emergency, bring your gun(s) with you, if you can; if not, lock them the hell up as much as possible. Not only will you potentially need to be armed, even if police (or criminals) break in they’ll hopefully have a harder time finding/getting them.

    • Have you ever seen the police execute a search warrant? Unless you brick in your stuff with a false wall that cannot be easily detected, they will find what you hide.

    • They called in locksmiths to get into safes… despite the claim that they only took guns that were not stored properly.

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