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Quote of the Day: Joe Biden Says Shotguns Don’t Penetrate Walls Edition

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“You know, they make fun of my saying about use a shotgun if someone’s invading your home. Guess what — use a shotgun [on] someone invading your home — you don’t kill your kids. Use an AR-15, it goes through your wall and it can kill your kid in the bedroom.” – Vice President Joe Biden [via redalertpolitics.com]

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. Depending on the gauge, it doesn’t so much go “through” a wall as ploughing the wall ahead of the blast, yielding gypsum grapeshot.

    What a doofus.

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    • Actually, that would be hilarious if someone did! And in the legislation, explain all of the stupid nonsense he spouts as truth and facts!

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  2. If Rand and Friends do another filibuster, I hope at least one of them gets up and says “Apparently many of the Senators here are unaware of what the Second Amendment says, so I’m going to read it to them…” and then just reads the Second Amendment over and over (saying “The right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed” in a much louder volume) for an hour or two.

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  3. Bimbofied? Planned or not, you know that political correct fart in a whirlwind was used to get her some national recognition. I expect she’ll be O’s nominee to replace Holder.

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  4. i love seeing stuff get powdered in the morning.

    I still say bird shot is for little birds. Sure it will go through wallboard, but i think that the penetration in gelatin/flash is only a few inches.

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  5. And for many years the ATF has showed how far you can bend a little law, a little here goes a VERY LONG way… NO MORE GUN CONTROLS , hold the line as is!

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  6. Count how many words he takes to describe what was a self-inflicted problem. Does he like to hear himself talk or what? Consider any FFL receiving a gun; no paperwork, No FFL in the box. A week later, someone comes in and claims the gun is his and he ordered it online. No proof of who sent it nor who is the owner. The way you open the door to liberal criticism is to act as though you are trying to find loopholes by doing stupid irresponsible things; right? This time, the pontificating complainer picked a shop that did NOT accept transfers from private shippers, PERIOD. Corporate policy based on the inability to prove the credentials of the sender does not allow for acceptance of private shipments. What makes this guy really look stupid is that he had a C&R license at the time that would have been accepted but he did not send the license in the box. Watch out. This guy just may be a Democrat liberal just trying to make trouble for the firearms industry. As for me, I am telling everyone he is looking for a fight by embellishing the facts in his favor. I know. He sent the gun to me. I called ATF and asked what to do. Think about what you would do and make your own, now better informed, judgement.

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  7. The officers say that twice in recent weeks it has taken several shots for an officer to disable a gunmen who was shooting at police.

    Would someone please tell the Pittsburgh PD that that’s normal?

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  8. The only round shown (in flawed tests admittedly) to have any more stopping power than the 40 is the 357 mag, and with the skill of modern cops, I doubt they’ll be going back to revolvers any time soon. The 45 acp, despite the mythos surrounding it, doesn’t really perform that much better (if at all) than the 40. In fact, with JHP bullets, the difference between all cartridges is lessened.

    Of course, the fact that the 40 is deemed “underpowered” shows a fundamental misunderstanding about the uses, power and tactics of a handgun, from the police no less!

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  9. As a die hard .45 acp fan, the numbers don’t lie. 40 has more KE than 45acp, they are close in weight and diameter. I switched to .40 because I wanted more “stopping power”. If the BG has some amount of KE coming at you based on his mass and velocity, what you need to do to stop him is throw as much KE against his toward you. These cops don’t know what they are talking about.

    If they want more KE then they need to look at the .357 mag, or less disputedly the .41 mag. But then they will have to be able to hit.

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  10. The parking lot of the gun range where I shoot is likely one of the safest places you could go in my city.

    Gun owners are the new smokers. With every other “argument” countered, it can only come down to “Icky!”

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  11. What we need is our own gold backed currency.Well see if the sponsors stand for that when the Pro 2A states are the only ones with real currency.

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  12. I feel for this lady, I really do. But this is a classic case of emotion over logic. There are no specifics in her speech. What, exactly, are the policies under consideration that will keep guns out of the hands of madmen? What are the policies that will stop gang-bangers in Chicago from shooting each other, as well as innocents?

    Everyone involved has admitted the bills currently being considered would not have prevented Sandy Hook, much less Aurora, Tuscon, VA Tech and on and on.

    The one policy that might have helped? Armed teachers and staff in the school. No one will even mention that. Not in the Senate, anyway.

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  13. This “demonstration” was so flawed, I don’t know where to begin. All one really needs to read here are two things: “Nick Leghorn is a gun nerd” and “Ted Nugent reads TTAG.”

    The next time you want to “demonstrate” how guns in schools will make a difference, use a Real School, (when school is in progress), use Real teachers teaching Real students. Give the school administrator a simulated gun or paint gun. Tell him or her that an “assault” will happen on his/her school sometime in the next two weeks, but do not give the exact day or time. Adam Lanza didn’t phone ahead and tell them he was coming! I’ll bet my results would show something entirely different than that of TTAG and King 33 Training.

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