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This isn’t that hard. When a federal and local law conflict, the Fed law usually wins.
The feds say medical marijuana users are prohibited persons. You may disagree with the law, in which case work to change it; but it’s pretty simple.
Doesn’t matter what the law is, or its effect on your RTKABA. Fix yer shit, people on drugs have proven themselves to be worthless if not down right dangerous to the rest of Society, but at the very least users become the “THEM” that require more of a watchful eye and monitoring in our shared relationships than the average non-user. And THAT’S A FU<kING TAX.
That depends on the drug, and the user.
The vast majority of marijuana users create no problems at all for anyone else. Even cocaine isn’t as bad as the government propaganda wants us to believe.
Read _Saying Yes_ by Jacob Sullum — he debunks all the myths using the government’s own data.
The law says that users of illegal drugs cannot buy guns from an FFL using form 4473
Even if your state allows medical marijuana, the ATF has taken the position that marijuana is illegal under Federal law and you are prohibited from buying from an FFL holder
There is no law about giving up your previously legally acquired guns
If your using legal drugs from a doctor.. go ahead and buy all the guns you want from a gun store!
Federal laws says users of illegal(federally) drugs may not possess firearms of ammunition.
A 4473 is a Federal form, not a State form. So if you use marijuana in a State where its legal and check No on the illegal drug question, you just lied on a Federal form.
.40 for taking care of business and .22 for plinking… and then 9mm
Do what you want. Just be aware that there is potential for you to lose your right to possess a firearm over this issue.
1. That guy is fucking stupid. He is literally saying that the only reasons we have mass shootings is because of guns and males owning them.
2.I really think we should be fighting hard for campus carry in every state.
3. Course Pelosi is going to lose her mind over it. She could tell the truth though. Those out of state visitors would still have to pass their state licensing requirements.
4.Why is it every anti gun commercial is the same? Police with weapons drawn? Check. Wounded or dead civilians on the ground after a well known mass shooting? Check. Sad music in the background? Check. Female narrator? Check.
Get high the traditional way…and to all those holier than thou types-do you speed when you drive? Drink and drive? Ever fibbed on a TAX form?!? Quit giving .gov anything. Read “3 felonies a day” sometime…
Out of the two listed…
.22lr for survival and storing tens of thousands of bullets easy.
9MM for the service pistol and getting to the rifle I shouldn’t have set down.
I’m not one to try and spit rifle loads out of a pistol, unless its a bear stopper, in a state were I can’t carry a rifle or shotgun.
I wonder if Biden was grabbing Giffords butt behind the podium. Didn’t get the nickname “hands” for no reason.
460 Rowland and .22.
I won’t comment on the day’s post because I haven’t read it yet. I clicked the link on one of the 2 “top” articles and read through it. Only at the bottom did I realize the article was TWO YEARS old. Why the hell is a 2 year old article at the top of your page? The one next to it was 14 months old. Your most recent article was the third one on the page.
In conclusion this is dumb and you should stop it.
The two top articles are clearly dated, you didn’t notice and still call TTAG dumb.
Interesting.
Hear that dudes? Yer the problem! If we could just become the island of Lesbos everthing would be hunkydory😄Duh…oh wait you just featured 2 braindead gals😖
Meanwhile in new jersey………….
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sV_j_BpWHg&w=560&h=315%5D
Maybe you shoulda shot the truck…
Looks awesome to me! Remington has it’s issues, but the 870 doesn’t seem to be affected. Nothing says close range firepower like a good shotgun.
870s very much have issues, I know several people (myself included) that have bought them in the last several years and ended up with junk. Guns that won’t extract (Remington customer service just tells you to polish the chamber), sights soldered on crooked, stripped out stock screws, etc. Freedom Group junk.
I just did a qual on a brand new 870, and it was solid. A little rough, but so are brand new Mossburgs. Sorry you’ve had issues.
“Far from making Americans safer, this deadly, extreme Republican bill would make it legal for more dangerous and untrained people to carry loaded, hidden guns in more public places and would inexplicably try to make the weakest and most dangerous state concealed-carry laws the law of the land in all 50 states,”
She doesn’t seem to realize that those who wish to violate the law are already carrying concealed in those public places. Where it’s already illegal.
But she’s the typical politician, looking to do two things: first, get re-elected, and second, make everyone else follow her demands.
Guess I don;t have two for me it as depends on the scenario,
Does simmering in ideological drivel cause some unrecognized brain pathology, or is it socially constructed gender confusion induced chemical imbalance?
Will the mag handle 3″ rounds? It doesn’t look like it.
That will hurt Home Defense sales.
Did you read the specs?
The reviewer mentioned:
“The polymer mag (each gun ships with one) holds six 12 gauge shells (2 3/4 or 3 inches), giving a shooter seven rounds of firepower.”
don’t waste your time watching stupid SNL crap .
Wait until National Reciprocity passes if you want to see confusion and uneven enforcement!
9mm kills your body.
.45 kills your soul.
Anh, to me that’s only a little-better than a security model 870.
Yes, reloads are ~ faster, but magazines are much better on semi-autos, and 95% of those are ‘fer huntin’ and require a 3-round-max plug.
The have a 3-round magazine. That makes reloading a lot faster.
For all of you Lawyer or Legislative types; will H.R. 38 allow for non-resident permit holders to CCW in every state? I live in NJ, and if we allow (if HR 38 passes) non-NJ CCW holders to carry here, we still would not be able to acquire a CCW while living in NJ, based on existing law. Is this scenario addressed at all?
very great!
Why? I could maybe see a mag fed semi auto. But a pump? This thing is bulky and looks like it would be an unbalanced rig. I can reload a tube mag on a pump gun rapidly. If i do it right the mag tube is essentially bottomless capacity.
Now I got to pay 800 bucks for what is basically a pig with lipstick. And because it’s mag fed the tactikewl ‘warriors’ will insist on buying, at great expense, a truck load of mags to go with it. I’ll pass.
But because it will appeal to tactikewl tommy it will sell like hotcakes.
Not to mention the bulk of the extra magazines. Seems like four of these magazines is a lot bigger than a box of shotgun shells, for the same amount of ammo.
I’m squarely in the camp of “if you can’t get the job done with the 8 or 10 rounds available in a Mossberg 590A1, then a shotgun wasn’t the right tool to begin with.”
” V8-like forehead slapper that will have other shotgun makers wondering why they haven’t thought of this, too?”
We’ll have to ask Brixia (PM-5), Dominion Arms (Grizzly), Dagger (SAP6), Norinco (Grizzly again), Armed (Eagle), Uzkon (AS46-O5), etc. about that.
Standard garbage Remington 870: $300
New and improved Remington 870 with a piece of aluminum added to the loading gate and some bigger pins, same garbage: $800
Wow, they’ve got balls.
Welp. I can feel no joy at your pain. That sucks. Hope insurance comes through for ya.
That SNL video was freakin’ awful. I couldn’t make it through the end. A bunch of pampered, privileged women in the nation that treats women better than anywhere in the world acting like they’re in hell. Please.
no.
Nothing says the NRA must pick someone, if there isn’t an acceptable candidate, just don’t support anyone. I already don’t like that the NRA has become a wing of the Republican party so if they do this it’ll just cement my negative opinion.
Yeah, whatever. I dont see the NRA supporting a candidate who plans on aligning himself with the DNC’s platform, although I would suggest from a PR perspective that a simple press release would be sufficient, and then to move on to bigger battles.
The NRA, very obviously, does not want Chuck Schumer to become Majority Leader. Do you, Robert?
Seems to me most of the allegations against Moore are politically motivated bullsh!t. Unlike a lot of TTAG regulars, I actually support pro-gun politicians. Newsflash: absolutely none of them are perfect. We pick between the lesser of evils because we have no other choice. Rand Paul is still one of my favorites. I hope he continues to recover well.
Not really “OK with it” . . . If I lived there – and if there was a credible libertarian candidate who was not a goofball like many of them are – I would vote for the libertarian.
But the NRA’s decision is very understandable and I don’t have a much of a problem. The NRA grades politicians based on support of the second amendment. Moore supports the second amendment. It’s pretty simple.
Wouldn’t necessarily leave him alone with my daughter.
Much like my vote for Trump, I’d vote for Judge Moore just because it would piss so many people off. Fuck ’em.
Yup, I’m good with it
Dan Rather found a yearbook recording Moore’s absence from Mall Service?
kudos on the highly effective click bait.
This Moore business has the stench of a McMartin Case all over it.
I did not read all of the comments here on this post , but I would like to input my take and it is concise and short .
In America , you are supposed to be innocent until PROVEN guilty .
Witch hunts are not permitted .
Or just go to cabelas and pick out a new, warranted, accurate gun and spend about same.
Welcome to the world of ineffective government bureaucracy. They’ve had this military surplus in storage, on the taxpayers dime, for the longest time (30 years?) and I KNEW they would do something like this. Regardless of how much I hated him, Obama wanted these damn things destroyed and I can see why. It’d be easier, cheaper, safer, and better to just pick something off the rack at your local sporting goods outlet.
I actually have one of these in 308. You can find them at Cabela’s for $900 occasionally. (The Hunter, not the Long Range)
Answers to questions:
Yes, it is incredibly proprietary. The BCG is shortened to fit in the receiver group, which is more “compact” than other groups. The gas system is “mid length+” as well, and it is fully adjustable with a very large amount of positions on the block. I’d say the tube is about 1.5″ longer than a standard mid-length setup. It was very easy to dial in to get both good performance with minimal recoil. Both the factory brake and the gas setup probably has a lot to do with this.
It is actually very light and handy and very well balanced. I was surprised more than anything and I actually really appreciated it.
Rails are screwed into the upper receiver, so the barrel is free floated completely.
Accuracy wise.. I got a 0.5MOA group out of it with some loadings my friend rolled up for me. This rifle is STUPIDLY accurate with good ammunition, I was massively impressed by how crazy accurate it is.
The kicker: I needed to change out the trigger to get to that. The factory trigger is okayish, but its just mil-spec+ because of the coating. I swapped in an Elftmann Match that I had laying around.
Bad’s are.. the factory furniture is kinda meh. The rails are proprietary, along with the BCG. It takes standard AR trigger parts so most drop in units fit inside perfectly, along with the buffer tube and grip.
Overall I really like the rifle a ton, and after a bit of a breakin (It was VERY tight from the factory) its been flawless in function. I’ve got about 1500 rounds through it now, took about 100 to break it in and loosen it up, and I’ve been enjoying every bit of it. Savage put out a real good product here.
As much as I may like to buy a gun. There are no affiliated clubs it seems in Florida. I searched their web sight last night and it came back blank for 150 miles of where I live.
I don’t know where in Florida you live, but here in N.E. Florida, I belong to Gateway Rifle & Pistol Club, a CMP affiliated club.
I live in Alabama. I vote in Alabama. I have no problem voting for Moore and will do it enthusiastically as he is not a liberal democrat. I don’t care what the NRA thinks of him, nor do I care what non-Alabamians think of him.
The majority of us in this state believe this is a smear-job and the claims against him are baseless or exaggerated for political reasons. We may be wrong….if so, we will have to live with it. Or do something about it. Until then, worry about the log in your own eye….
All y’all who want to opine about Alabama politics should probably move here first. Otherwise, please STFU.
Glad my range is affiliated. I’ll probably jump in line.
I don’t have a range close to me that’s affiliated.
BTW, had a great time in Oregon for the eclipse. The traffic jam was horrendous after though.
Here’s a short video of the spot I picked out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKVzwdg_qqU
This was south of Long Creek, OR along 395 and north of Mount Vernon in the Malheur National Forest.
It’s faster reloads if you shoot the entire mag then reload. Rapid fire. Ok…
Otherwise it’s not necessarily faster: you could otherwise load one or two as you are between shooting. Always being fully loaded with a tube feed. Shoot a few. Take cover loading, shoot. Etc.
So…not really competing with their own products…
like the car companies Ford/Mercury/Lincoln…Toyota/Lexus…Honda/Acura
I’d honestly get one but that seems like a shit ton of hoops to jump through to get one. I live in goddamn America and I should be able to just go buy it off the shelf.
I thought it was a scene from an episode of Fargo……and maybe it was…
You must take pwrserge with a large grain of salt. I have nothing against the man, but when he casually mentions that he can drink a half fifth of Jack Daniels before he feels intoxicated, you know he has a high alcohol tolerance and is an alcoholic.
Black Aces Tacktical has been doing this for years based on the Mossberg platform. And after what Remington did I’ll never buy from them anyway.
YGTBFSM. No, thanks.
Hi-Point carbines make GREAT truck guns…
you people make me long for the 1911 vs Glock arguments.
America is suppose to stand for freedom to choose, backed up by amendments to the constitution that say we have speech, arms, etc.
But the underlying document was suppose to represent freedom.
So…toke up, drink up, AND keep your powder dry.
Who wants a 1911 anyways, all the cops carry Glock…. Appears there are more bears in New Jersey then Colorado…. Three guys, ones pushing a broom, your tax dollars at work. ….. Career criminal shoots cop, I’ve always felt much safer around part time criminals.
Rather have a rifle.
The fruits of US / Cuba normalization of relations.