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Almost none of these commenters could afford one of their rifles anyway.
I can… I own an AXMC in .300WM.
I don’t buy the “clarification”, until it’s followed up with a lawsuit.
These politicians are sickening… and yes, he’s a politician. Always has been.
Military personnel above the rank of colonel are more akin to politicians than they are to the “ranks”. There are very few generals who truly look out for their troops, the few being in charge of combat units.
This is the guy who covered up and lied to the parents of Pat Tillman.
Obama appointee. Nothing to see here.
Remember how everyone jumped for joy when he criticized Obama? And then he kept opening his mouth and said that hollowpoints should be banned for the f—-in plebs in America? McChrystal is no one’s friend. He should just retire to England or someplace.
Why again is he an ex-general?
Potentially dangerous people???
Isn’t everyone “potentially dangerous?”
If these gun-controllers actually wanted to reduce death and injury, their focus would be on training and marksmanship, not on banning something that is Constitionally-protected.
They’re missing the one area where they can have a positive effect. Regulate (in the founder’s sense of the word) the militia.
Untrained and potentially dangerous people have no business leading our nations army.
So what I’m reading here is that since every American has a god-given right to bear arms, the .gov should train us all how to use them in class at our public schools? I can get behind that.
I concur;
Training in schools.
You want the same government that continually oversteps it’s authority regarding guns to “train” our youth? In what way has this same government instilled so much confidence in their ability to get it right?
I never thought much of most general officers, they had to be politician at heart to get to that rank. They also often had god complexes. I was friends with few general’s aids when I was in and they all agreed that they (generals) were political creatures. Even having been a generals aid was a significant (huge actually) advantage for promotion – promotion over guys who spent more time actually commanding units. Of course the aids I knew about tripped over themselves to get the job and usually got it by being friends with the previous aid, so they were rather political themselves.
Wonder if this guy would lose his mind if he knew my oldest 2 help me change oil and fix my Jeep and help me work on my guns when they need cleaned or repaired? Probably would because God forbid our children actually learn to work with their hands and build things anymore. Manual labor is something we should all frown upon I mean after all that’s why we have robots ain’t it? This is freakin sad. These fathers can’t be bothered to actually teach their sons responsibility and how to work with their hands (should they even be in the picture that long) so rather than taking the time to bond with their kids and teach these things they go and make em hand in their NERF guns, Super Soakers, and cap guns. Thus creating another generation of utterly useless males who can’t even change their own tire and are horrified by anything that goes BANG!! Dads, I think it’s time we had a talk, see your boys look to you to know what it means to be a man. So, when you are some effeminate pansy that’s never been in a fight and a lump of metal and wood or metal and plastic scares the crap out of you, then your sons will grow to be just like you. Now here we would normally start talking about mah rights!! but I’m not gonna do that because your effeminate little gender fluid offspring won’t affect my rights in the least. They will affect my children’s rights. You all talk of healing the racial divide and reconciling our differences so here’s where we start. BE AN ACTIVE PART OF YOUR KID(S) LIVES AND EXPLORE THINGS WITH THEM!!! They wanna try out guns? Okay start em off with NERF blasters and teach them the 4 commandments. Should they continue the pursuit, buy em a BB gun when they’re mature enough to handle it responsibly, then, move them up to a 22 and so on. Don’t stifle their experiences just because it makes you uncomfortable, instead share their curiosity take the opportunity to learn along with them. Hell if you don’t wanna teach them how to shoot a gun just take them to a gun range, mill around long enough and speak with enough owners (KEEP IT CIVIL) you are bound to find someone willing to teach you and your kid(s) how to responsibly use a firearm.
This is just my 2 cents but really y’all kids are curious about anything mechanical. Guns, cars, computers, robots, and anything else really. I’ve noticed with all 3 of my kids if it’s loud and mechanical they immediately want to learn more about it. My 95 Jeep Wrangler is the perfect example of this. Loud, crude, and mechanical my kids love the damn thing they’ll pass up rides on a fire truck just to go to the gas station in Dad’s Jeep with the top off. Same with my guns they’ll put their tablets down just to help scrub carbon off an AK bolt with Dad. This is where we win the war, converting the next generation to safe and responsible gun owners. We do that through hosting youth hunts that aren’t BYOG, we form intramural rifle teams, we host youth shoots at our local gun clubs, we talk to our children’s friends about guns and teach them what their parents won’t, and we stay away from politics throughout it all. Nothing turns a kid’s ears off like talking politics and rights and such. Start out just focusing on the hunt, the fundamentals of shooting, or the gun itself and wait a few years before you start throwing out the political stuff. Let the KOTG (Kid Of The Gun) enjoy the hobby worry free for awhile then slowly introduce the political stuff.
………and here we have a highly trained general qualifying
http://soldiersystems.net/2017/03/08/dear-sma-please-make-marksmanship-a-priority-for-all-soldiers/
Do I see a 92A1? Carrying mine today under a coat.
And BTW it looks like that general, who is a paper pusher, never picked up a pistol before that picture was taken.
That’s a regular M9 (old model 92FS with the flat dust cover instead of the newer 96FS angled dust cover). 92A1s are really nice though. I had one for a while.
That is the wrong question to ask when it comes to civil rights, the correct question would be “More guns, more crime”? If the answer is not a definitive unquestionable yes then the answer cannot be more gun control. Unless the government can prove that the exercise of a civil right is a clear and present danger to the country as a whole then they should not have the power to limit or restrict that right.
What’s truly frightening; he knows what he is saying is a lie.
He sold out to the statist devil a long time ago.
This guy is an idiot but apparently that’s not against the law for generals.
If I could bring a handgun into NY or similar state without fear of arrest, I would be happy to keep it to ten rounds or less, which I think would be the main issue for carriers from the normal states. Presence of hidden schools in high rise cities is admittedly a problem because travelers will not know where they are. Even if you travel among the current reciprocity states you have to be careful of places like theaters, public buildings (is the museum you want to visit a public building?) and parks. It would be great if those laws were overturned but I will take those restrictions if I don’t have to concerned about driving from PA to VT, for example.
This legislation takes care of magazine limits and school zones. You still have to worry about “is this place a government owned museum (or whatever).”
“…it’s an affront to both our safety as a nation and the common sense of its citizens that Congress would consider actually weakening our gun laws.”
Sorry, “sir”, National Reciprocity does nothing to “weaken our gun laws”, it only makes them approximately uniform all across the fucking nation.
I read the summary of the bill. States can still make their own laws and people from out of state must follow them. The only difference is that a State cannot prevent you from carrying your weapon so long as you have a valid permission slip from you home state, or your home state is honest enough not to require an unconstitutional permission slip for you to exercise your natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms.
Wait for New York City to make it illegal to carry a concealed weapon within 100 feet of a red fire hydrant.
When I was in the Navy the average E-3 had more time sitting in sexual harassment training than actual time training with small arms. Which actually amounted to about 15 minutes. They would still put you on the deck of a Nuclear Submarine with a 12 gauge, .45 or M-14 for sentry or topside watch. I was once assigned topside watch with a 12 gauge Mossberg while my right arm was in a sling, because I had a broken wrist. I am right handed The Captain and Commodore walked across the bridge and I saluted with my left hand. The Commodore turned around walked back to me and said “Captain what’s wrong with this picture?” The Captain reminded the Commodore that in the Navy, you are indeed allowed to salute with your left when your right hand is encumbered. Very well said the Commodore and they continued on their way.
You know what they say about 69’s: size doesn’t matter.
“Untrained and potentially dangerous people have no business carrying . . ,”
The day he gets to decide that, will never get here. And that’s a fing promise.
” “Whatever you put in a child’s hands that’s what he feels comfortable with” ”
So, just to make sure I have this right…
GI Joe action figures turn little boys gay?
Barbie Dolls turn little girls into lesbians?
Do I have it right?
I have taken the test in Virginia and passed it,’ but is this honored in Wisconsin for a CCW permit if I do a non resident application?
“Retarded general against national cc reciprocity”.
“I’m OK having complete access to WMDs. You cannot be trusted with small arms.”
What an ass.
That was a painful Remington add. My choice is the Benelli Super Black Eagle II.
“Some people claim the bear spray worked exactly as intended. It saved the life of the bear.”
Well guess what, I don’t give a shit about the Bear. We got rid of them because we are supposed to be the top of the food chain. not part of it. That’s the reason they were hunted to extinction along with wolves and cougars in the lower 48 and now these idiots have put us back in danger again by introducing these animals back into the wild. Good thing I carry large caliber when I get out of the truck at the trail head. Not going to give up my walks with nature because of the stupid Enviro’s. Just doing my part to put them back on the endangered species list. You can thank me later.
Everyone could qualify as a potentially dangerous person at one time or another. The key word is “potentially”. 99 and 44/100 percent of the people that carry arms would never use those arms under anything but the most dire of circumstances involving possible loss of life for them or those in close proximity to them.
What that general is demonstrating is the dangerous “we are better than you and have authority over you” of the progressive elite among us that feel the have a right to control those they have decided are lower than themselves.
The only controls over citizens and naturalized citizens (the only people entitled to the protections in the Constitution) are those in our founding law set, the Constitution, and the laws legally adopted following the processes demanded by the Constitution.
The Second Amendment does not discriminate when it gives everyone the duty of keeping arms to bear in defense against tyranny by those posing as government. We must each be prepared at all times, with the arms we decide are the best we can afford for the specific purpose intended by the Framers; preservation of the Constitution and protection of our society based therein, from government run amok of the Constitution.
Government that has run amok of the Constitution is one comprised of people that we have chosen to serve in our places as our voices in management of the affairs of our great Constitutional Republic who have fallen to unguarded temptations, over time, for which there are no penalties for abuse. Those people will have lost site of why they hold the positions they hold and how they got into those positions as well as the obligations they accepted when they took their oaths-of-office. They will have become self-serving and concerned only with ill-gotten gains in power and personal wealth while having lost all allegiance to we the people and to the United States of America.
When we the people have decided that the public servants we chose to serve in our places have truly run amok of the Constitution and have become dangerous to the survival of the Constitution, our country and our society, it is our duty to remove those people from positions of authority and return government to the rules in the Constitution.
First, we must exercise the power given us by the Framers. They decided that the amounts of time allocated for Senators, Members of the House of Representatives, and a President to serve in respective terms, is the amount of time during which each is least likely to fall to the unguarded temptations to which they will be exposed while a public servant of the people. It is our duty to make sure those we choose/elect are qualified in character and experience to serve us in the manner we need them to serve. Doing so takes time and effort on each of our parts to insure we know the people we choose and have researched their character and qualifications well.
The Framers gave specific lengths of service for Senators, Members of the House and a President. We call those periods of service terms. The points in time when those terms expire provide us with the opportunities to choose whether to allow those persons to continue to serve us, or, to elect someone new to fill their places. These are term limits and it is up to us to use them to control how government is conducted and who is chosen to comprise government.
We the people must be allowed to keep and bear arms to protect our country and way of life. We cannot tell when the time to put down our run amok government will present itself so we must carry the best arms we can on our persons at all time in order to be prepared. Self-preservation is a side benefit of being prepared to defend our government. No state or other entity has the power to “infringe” on our Second Amendment duty. Infringements weaken our defensive abilities and empower those with tyrannical tendencies. This we must not allow, ever.
Laws now exist to protect us from those that are want to use arms for unintended purposes. Those laws must be enforced. Crimes committed using firearms must have penalties that will discourage future abuses and those penalties must be carried out publicly. Exposure can be an effective deterrent for preventing future abuses.
BUT, we the people must actively participate in government and be responsible for who serves us and what they do while in office. We must refuse to elect anyone that does not serve us well under the Constitution.
YOU, yes you must do your part always or we will lose everything those who have died for our country have sacrificed for us to continue on. Will you?
Why would a general want some civilian to carry a gun when he doesn’t let those serving under him to carry on base?
I say just give the kids a toy gun safe and teach them the 4 toy gun rules. Teach them proper shooting technique with nerf guns and stuffed animals. Raise a generation of responsible hunters and riflemen.
Nah, too much work.
Not a lot. Most of my interstate travel is in a commercial airplane and the hassle of flying with the gun is a bigger barrier to me than the question of reciprocity. Further, my state already has reciprocity with many of the destinations I’m likely to travel to and, I have little desire to go to the worst offending states in terms of gun rights.
On the other hand, I think that in the broad scheme of things national reciprocity would be a good thing long term. When (if) the people of NY, NJ, CA etc. figure out that it is not the CC holder from some other state that is a danger to them but, rather, the criminals in their midst (and the politicians who empower them), then perhaps they will once again yearn to breathe free.
I cannot reach my own state capital without passing thru a restrictive state that does not offer any reciprocity. National reciprocity would be very helpful.
Police recovered an arsenal of weapons, piles of cash, and an American tourist.
At first it wouldn’t affect me at all. I am living in southern NH. Currently I can carry in NH, VT and ME without even having a permit. The states I can’t carry in like MA, NY and CT are such a nightmare that I wouldn’t want want to be the first to test the new law.
FYI: if you are a resident of a may/no issue State this Bill will do nothing for you. It only applies to nonresidents not residents with an out of State permit.
TDI: FYI, That is directly opposite of what the original post says. I have no clue which is correct.
I live and work in NYC, so it wouldnt change a thing, i.e. NYC law supercedes Federal and State law. Not sure why, but in practice it does. I guess somewhere in the fine print of the Constitution its been carved out as a de facto separate country. Or maybe its a verbal clause thats not in print. So, no change here Im afraid. Oh, I do know how this country is supposed to run. I also know how it really runs. Big difference.
Devil’s in the details. I expect anything that passes will be chock full of poison pills.
Draw me like one of your French girls Jack….
It might make me some money. My county officials ignore quite a few gun laws. They would probably ignore this one. This one would limit where states can ban guns to “any State or local government property, installation, building, base, or park” and private property where the owner bans carry. Texas has some gun free zones that don’t fall into either of those descriptions. H.R. 38 would allow for the recovery “a reasonable attorney’s fee” in both criminal and civil actions. The biggest question is whether or not the local courts would use the state or federal definition of reasonable attorney’s fees. Texas has a broader understanding of reasonable.
All that said, Cornyn’s shitty Senate version doesn’t have any of those provisions in it.
… yea, my concern also. Back in the early ’70’s I bought a pair of expensive composit plastic ski boots. There were purported to be the latest in high tech. I always kept them in a boot rack and in a closet, away from any sunlight. I was moving in the early 2000’s and when I came across these boots they literally crumbled in my hands into tiny pieces.
Does anyone really know how these plastic composits will hold up over long periods of time — like an 1851 Colt Navy after 166+ years????
Correct me if I’m wrong, but state laws such as approved lists and banned models and magazine limits would still apply, wouldn’t they?
Legalize it. Regulate it like alcohol, tax it like tobacco, and stop using prescription drugs to deny people their rights!
As someone who has driven across the USA on the longest interstate, I-90, I can attest to what a major cluster f— it is trying to stay legal. Besides having to research the laws, one must be cognizant that the information one uses in a good faith effort to obey laws may not be the most current or accurate.
Laws change with language used often confusing. As an example, in Washington State vs Swanson, the division III court of appeals ruled that “RCW 9.41.040 (Washington states Gun law) is not a model of clarity” I’ve read it many times and it’s really messy. There are exceptions to exceptions!
About the only way one can be sure of the laws before travel is to consult each state of intended travel, website of the attorney general. Naturally one must be pretty adept at reading, comprehension and research and truthfully , that’s not everyone’s forte. Using USA Carry or other well known websites is putting your legal safety in serious jeopardy.
I travel south to Arizona and depending on my route of travel, I get into California for short periods of time.
That’s worrisome as all it would take would be to have a California cops around with nothing better to do that make someones life miserable and suddenly you are on the receiving end of the hammer of justice which seems bent on screwing you with a branch off a rose bush.
If you have not done the type of research to stay legal and actually traveled, stopped at a state border to properly stow your weapon away, then get it out again, then do it again, you just really aren’t going to comprehend what a ridiculous arduous unnecessary pain it is.
The elites, LE and retired LE have carve-outs. They whip out their ID and mini retired police badges and they get the nod and on they’re on their way. But the rest of us mere-mortals don’t enjoy that luxury and hoping the cop you meet on the road doesn’t have the worst attitude the world has ever seen who seem hell-bent on “making an example out of you, is all it takes to virtually ruin your life and the cops do that under layers of immunity.
I gotta say the law if passed will be welcoming. Yes yes some states might get a governmental erection over it, but that’s inevitable, especially for that sh*t-hole California. At least for the most part, traveling concealed and crossing state lines should prove much MUCH safer from abuses.
Those Generals are bribed, bought, and paid for to mouth such ignorance. Just like many politicians.
Did I miss something in middle school? Since when does it take 60 votes for a bill to pass through the Senate? Do we have 60 states now? Someone needs to get to work on a new flag….
Joseph Sundeen is exactly the sort of scumbag who would never have the balls to go house to house himself to enforce the laws he proposes. This is why I hate commie vermin and their collaborators.
Yup, the gloves come off (again – it isn’t like these gun control objectives haven’t been published before). Regarding the Canadian poll, IMHO a poll will record any result that the polling company (or the entity that hired them) wants to achieve. Given that the Canadian press hired the polling company, the results are not surprising and could probably be countered by a pro-gun entity hiring a polling company to achieve opposite results. With regard to the story about the Chinese black market for guns, I see that as an example of exactly what would happen in the USA if the gun control entities have their way with us. The Boston “invitation/RSVP” to legislators is the usual sophomoric tripe that the left-wingers come up with – no surprises here! As to knowing what may happen legally in Alaska after a self-defense shooting, I’ve always believed it incumbent on all persons carrying for self-defense. When you pull that trigger on a presumed bad guy, you’d better be right or your troubles are only beginning. I live in Virginia and have known for years that it’s part of responsible concealed carry to know local law and how it may affect you post trigger-pull. That’s one reason I have concealed carry insurance. I tend to agree with Nicole’s conclusions about how other people might characterize her if they know she is a shooter. It’s a shame, and is why I seldom/never tell anyone that I’m a shooter, gun owner or concealed carrier. It gets the panic juices flowing in other, hoplophobic people, and I have no desire to be SWATTED.
F canada and MA, POSs need to be sued.
We can go to war with canada over transport of weapons to AK.
F, we could go to war with canada over less.
I’m a New Jersey resident (a de-facto NON-ISSUE state, just like Hawaii, that simply NEVER grants CC permits to civilians), but I have a Florida non-resident CC permit.
So, if national reciprocity passes, will this let me use my Florida non-resident CC permit to carry in NJ?
Good question, but I’d bet anything the answer is “No.”
What it will probably mean is that residents of all other 49 states will be able to carry in New Jersey, but New Jersey’s own residents will be the only ones in NJ left unarmed!
After all, when I’m in my home state of New Jersey, I’m not “crossing state lines”, so national reciprocity won’t help me, and I still won’t be able to use my Florida non-resident permit in my home state.
Libertarian pot heads will always choose intoxication over gun civil rights. There is no utopia you get one or the other.
Unless your utopia is legal marijuana intoxication. Then you are set in California, Colorado, Hawaii, Washington State.
Libertarians will always vote for the anti gun civil rights politicians, but who are also pro legal marijuana intoxication. That is how they will get you in the end.
Because you say putting things into your body is the most important thing to you, than anything else.
Damn.
If you filed an insurance claim, what did you spend 10K on?
I have been going to that car shop since I moved to Brevard county. I was wonder if they knew if I carried when I drop my car off for auto work.
Have they hired some funny people lately? Last time I checked they haven’t had any rapier wits in years.
If only the socialist party/news media/hollywood had it’s way, ban all firearms/other deadly weapons, make the firearm free zone signs bigger, these incidents would cease.
I am all for the NRA endorsing Judge Moore. I have read or heard nothing to believe the decades old allegations against him and Gloria Allred’s involvement and failure to allow authentication of yearbook sealed the case for me. If something comes up after he is elected, though extremely doubtful IMO, the governor of Alabama could appoint a replacement.
The recent tax vote in the senate was 51-49 which shows how crucial a single senate seat is. There is a good possibility that President Trump will need to nominate another Justice for SCOTUS in 2018 and every senator vote is crucial and another democrat senator could be the difference between another Neil Gorsuch or a Merrick Garland instead. Second Amendment Rights are on the line and IMO the reason SCOTUS has refused to hear recent bans on semi automatic rifles such as in Maryland is because neither side is confident they have the votes to prevail with Anthony Kennedy as the wild card. Another Neil Gorsuch would be epic for Second Amendment Rights.
I’m cautiously optimistic.
There are a *bunch* (25) of Democrats in the Senate who are very interested in getting re-elected next fall.
Leftists voting to ‘Strengthen background checks’ is a good way to get there.
They get something, we get something. It’s about as classic Washington, DC politics as it gets, sports fans…