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The rabbi likes to say “No one ever ended a gunfight saying they had too much ammo.” I’m down with that. Kinda sorta. As a concealed carry license holder who journeys from the Ocean to the Bay State on a regular basis, I’m restricted to 10 round magazines. So I carry an heir and a spare. That’s 21 rounds of .45. How many more bullets does a man with psychos lurking in the shadows need? I hope to God I never find out. Meanwhile, 11 in the gun strikes me as sufficient; the extra mag is primarily planning for mag failure. At least that’s what I tell myself. Anyway, how many rounds do you carry? And how many rounds are in or on your outdoor toy (zombie-hunting AR) and indoor toys (home handgun and/or defense shotgun)?

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  1. I personally carry either 10+1 in the gun and a spare mag with 10 (Glock 26) or 17+1 in the gun with a spare mag of 17 (Glock 17) depending on the occasion or wardrobe.

    The spare mag in my case is primarily for malfunctions as well, but quite frankly I’d rather have too much than not enough.

    • 10 for the G26 and another 15 in a spare G19 mag normally. If I know I am going into a questionable area (they don’t serve ribs like that in the ‘burbs), I carry an extra G19 mag. Problem is concealing them without looking like Mr. Blimpie so that limits what I carry.

  2. For my Ruger LC9, 7 + 1 in the chamber plus (2) 7 round magazines. The magazines are small and light weight, so why not?

  3. “Meanwhile, 11 in the gun strikes me as sufficient”

    I think you may need a holiday in one of the free states where there is less propaganda for limits on those evil high capacity assault clips.

    Back to the question: I’m not a CHP holder yet, but my first choice for carry will be my old-school all-metal S&W 9mm with single stack magazine (8+1) and one spare.

      • Yes, intentionally. I should have put “evil high capacity assault clips” in quotes to highlight them properly as a single thought or use a “/sarc” tag.

  4. I like to carry 3 reloads as well as a full gun with one the barrel for any gun I take with me when I travel outdoors and I have my main CCW 45. magnum and my back-up 38. snubbie are both wheel guns because I don’t trust semi’s to get the job done when you pull the trigger.

    I have NEVER had a round NOT fire or cycle with either of my wheel guns after thousands of rounds over the years and all I ever see at the range is mis-fires with people shooting their semi’s.

    Those are not the only weapons I carry with me at any given time, but we will leave it at that for now.

    Shotgun & long guns are always loaded with one in the pipe, no matter where they are. NH is an FFL state with castle law so we don’t need any long-winded stuff about what’s in your home and how your gonna defend it because that is too personal to put out in the open on the internet.

    Surfice it to say, if you try to kick my down down or stealth your way into my home you will not leave it under your power.

    • My GP-100 4″ was shot really limp wrist one time and locked the cylinder up.
      My buddy shot a Taurus ultralite 85 one time and it exploded and almost killed him,me, and a third guy. Half of the cylinder hit me in the belt buckle, pm me for pics of proof.
      The guy holding the remains of the 85 lost a lot of thumb meat….his thumb now kinda feels like raw chicken breast.
      Still love my Ruger, but revolvers CAN fail.

      • @brigo05,

        I never said my revovlers cannot jam, I was just stating the obvious fact that with less moving parts, quality workmanship, and regular maintenence, my wheel-guns have yet to fail on me the way I see so many semi’s fail at the ranges that I like to go to.

        I think it was on this site or a similar one that I like to read from that ran a story that quoted gun industrial officials numbers as up to 40% of all new guns sold have malfunctions that require them to be sent back to the factory for rework or retooling form a gunsmith.

        I just live by a few golden rules taught to me by family members that served our country with careers in the military:

        #1.K.I.S.S. =
        Kee It Simple Stupid

        #2.Rule of the six P’s =


          This was a factory loaded .38 special (not + anything)
          No frame fractures.
          Just three guys with ears, eyes, and safety on.
          if ANYONE wants the pictures of my belt I was wearing, Shirt I was wearing or the gun itself, please email me at [email protected], no spam or i’ll report.

        • “I was just stating the obvious fact that with less moving parts”

          I’m a revolver fan, not a gunsmith and not trying to be a smart aleck (at the moment, at least), but it seems to me that semi-autos like my Glocks might actually have fewer moving parts than my revolvers.

          Any experts out there with the facts?

          • I’m not an expert, but revolvers (often) have more moving parts than a Glock. Most people never take the plate off after they (if they) remove the grips. If they did they’d find lots of little parts in there, including some tiny gears. Semi-autos, though, give careless people more easy opportunities to screw up by abusing magazines, using worn-out ones, limp wristing a new tight gun, etc.

      • Dang! Was the revolver grenade a hot handload?

        I’m glad I’ve never managed to blow up a .357, .44, Heavy .45 Colt, .454, or .460…

      • “Taurus ultralite 85 one time and it exploded and almost killed him,me, and a third guy”

        He is not the first to experience that. There have been reports of Taurus ultralights grenading on people, exspecially the first versions of the ultralights.

      • My buddy had the cylinder “fall” out of his taurus while at the range. I’ll stick with my Rugers, and maybe a S&W

  5. 9 .45s in my gun with an extra mag of 8 and then 6 in my back up. My AR sits with one mag in it and 2 extras in a pouch next to it.

  6. Perhaps this comment will elicit a derisive snort from the TTAG assembly,but I carry one double stack 9mm with no reloads.Me being a private citizen its very unlikely ill ever need to do more than brandish the piece on the draw to stop an attack.As to the event of needing to fire,in my personal research of DGUs most criminal vs citizen shootouts end after about 8 rounds max of expended fire,and usually much less than that.Crooks draw firearms to ensure compliance,not to participate in a Matix & Platt vs FBI re enactment.
    In any event,carrying even one double stack magazine spare is harder for me than holstering the gun itself.The weapon hides away on my frame well enough,but any magazine carried on my belt looks like a 1980s Motorola field radio on my left side.For my needs,an extra magazine on the hip presents a concealment challenge which is of dubious necessity when the very low liklihood of its use exists.

    • As I mentioned, mag failure is the number one reason to carry a spare. It is the most likely part of the gun to fail.

      • Do we have any data for this? And are we talking total magazine failure or something that a tap-rack-bang would fix?

        I bet we would find it statistically insignificant that ANY magazine will fail, although Murphy’s Law is a bi*ch!

        Of course, I rotate my magazines and use them regularly so hopefully any magazine failure will come up then and not in a SHTF/DGU scenario. However, I almost always carry a backup XDm-45 13-rounder.

        • Mags and ammo are the only variables that can cause failures. Well, that and limp risting but w/e. The point is that if your gun is the problem (like a bad exctractor) then you’ll have problems with all ammo and mags. If you only occasionally have failures then it’s more likely to be a mag or ammo problem.

          Anyway, I think RFs original point was the most failures (wether they be mag, ammo, or gun related) call for a reload to clear.

    • Nick Leghorn carries that gun now. I’m schlepping a G30SF and a BUG from time to time (S&W 642 or LC9).

  7. I got carjacked while carrying a Kimber Ultra Carry .45 loaded with 7 + 1, and one extra 7 round mag in the truck. After the gunfire ended the dude was driving off with my extra mag and I was left in the parking lot with 2 rounds left in the gun.

    Before the spray and pray crowd gets their panties in an knot, two of the six I fired would have hit him had they kept going, and considering it was a moving target at night, not bad for real world SHTF shooting with a short barreled handgun. One entered the rear window molding, went through the crew cap seat in the back and then struck the front drivers seat in the upper left (lung) area. It stopped about 3/4 of the way through the front seat. (Winchester Ranger SXT, circa 1999) The other that woulda shoulda struck him was deflected by the side impact bar in the driver’s door. The other four hit the truck but would not have hit him. This bad dude was involved in a shootout with Houston PD officers two weeks later. Result was two officers shot and 22 rounds fired into the other stolen truck he was driving. He was hit by glass fragments and escaped again. He was arrested a week after that and is now cooling his heals in the pokey…where I hope he is getting what the name inplies.

    Yeah, I should have had the extra magazine on my person, and I usually do, just one of those complacency things that gets people in a pickle. And yes, it was embarrasing as a cop to be the victim of a car jacking…my truck was six days old.
    Complacency kills…lesson learned. How much ammo should you have? You can have too much to drink, you can have too much to eat, but you can Never have too much ammo.

    • Was there any legal ramifications for firing at your stolen truck as it drove off? I thought that fell into the category of things not to do if you don’t want jail time? Something about only using deadly force to stop a threat to your person? Laws vary wildly between states, but where I’m from I don’t think I’d shoot unless said vehicle was being directed at me.

    • “and I was left in the parking lot with 2 rounds left in the gun. ”

      It sounds like six was “enough”

      Agreed you can never have too much ammo, but there is a limit to what one can easily carry, and you did not need to reload in this dramatic incident. Good work surviving this encounter.

  8. I carry an S&W 340 PD with 5 .38 Special +P, a New York reload with 5 more in a Ruger LCR, and three speedloaders with 5 each. Total 25. I figure if I needed more than that, I’d be doing crowd control—and need a long gun.

    Robert, we must live in MA (in my case) and work in MA (in your case, I believe) for reasons more compelling than having 5 more rounds or so in a given magazine. While I agree that the rule is nonsensical, I urge you to let it go for the sake of your sanity. (Also I urge you to join GOAL in MA so we might get the high-capacity mag ban repealed someday.) Meanwhile,  just think of the lower-capacity magazine as I do—something that encourages me to choose my shots more wisely and make them more accurately. That way,  my brother warrior, just think what an advantage we have over the  profligate high-cap shooters!

  9. Depending on the occasion and correlating wardrobe;
    A) My primary is my Glock 20. 15+1 in the gun with 2 reloads with a +5 ext on both for a total of 56 rounds of Buffalo Bore 180 JHP 10mm Auto 😈
    B) If a more restrictive wardrobe is called for I’ll carry my Springfield XDSC40 with 9+1 in the gun and one 12 round reload in a pocket.
    C) Despite it being the lowly 9mm, I always have my LC9 on me. I really can’t remember the last time I left the house without it. I carry it, with no reloads, in conjuction with the above setups. I am occasionaly required to go only with the LC9 but not very often.

    So to answer the question; depending on circumstance, I’ll have between 8 and 72 rounds on my person.

    • Oh yea, I forgot about the second half of the question.
      I adhere to our Supreme Leaders advice of home carry so if the SHTF at home then I’ll probably have the Glock 20 on me. If not then it’s on the nightstand next to me. If I can’t get to it (I can’t fathom why but w/e) then the 930 stays loaded with 7+1 of 2.75″ Federal OO buck. My Zombie/Coyote (they’re bad around my house… the coyotes that is) Killer is an LAR-8 with a 30 round mag of .308 110 grain JHP Hornady TAP FPD and four more 30 rounders with Tula 150 grain FMJ. I have half a dozen or so 20 round mags for it but they don’t stay loaded.

  10. I carry my Sig with 14 rds in the mag plus 2 spares also loaded with 14 rds. I swap those out among the other 6 mags monthly.

    My AK has 3 loaded mags of 28 rds. ea and another 15 spares.

    Every other month I swap out mags as it does not take long and I have yet to have any spring issues.

  11. CCW:

    Glock 27 with 9+1 (in CBST holster) and a spare standard magazine (9) in a DeSantis Magpacker pocket holster.

    Home Defense (in a GunVault bolted to floor next to bed):

    FNP-45 Tactical with 15+1 (of .45-ACP goodness). Spare 15-rd mag sitting next to it.

    FN Five-seveN with 20+1.

  12. I try to carry a few thousand rounds for every caliber weapon I have. The reason is that a while back I ran into a particularly tough target. I shot an entire belt of about 200 rounds at him and then I picked up my dead friends minigun and fired a few thousand rounds. The rest of my team joined in and we fired off our basic load of ammo. It was not enough to take him down. The lesson I learned is that whatever is a reasonable amount of ammo should be multiplied by 1000.


  13. “If you as a civilian need more than 6 or 7 rounds to stop an attack…you’ve probably already lost that gunfight.”

    Jeff Cooper

    “If you can’t solve the problem with six rounds, what makes you think any more are going to help?”

    Bill Jordan

    • ” I have never known a situation where having too many rounds was a bad thing, or having too few was not.”


  14. .45 XD 4″ is cocked and locked with a 10 round with one in the pipe. I carry two spare 10 round magazines.

  15. 17 + 1 in the PX4, 17 spare in an “assault clip”. 6 + 1 in the .32 NAA plus a spare clip of 6.
    At home my wife’s house gun holds 50 5.7, her carry guns holds 20 + 1 and a spare magazine.

        • No! This is supposed to be a place of intelligence about firearms. I demand you go tell your children that UP is DOWN and LEFT is RIGHT.
          Yeah I got that he put the first one in quotes, haha I get it. The second time (6 in the NAA) was unacceptable .
          Sorry but that’s just how I determine someone’s gun knowledge. If someone asked me for a clip, I’m going to try and find the nearest Chip Clip I can find in my pantry.

          • he clearly makes use of the ” marks, so obviously he was being sarcastic…

            Also – “This is supposed to be a place of intelligence”… lets not set that precedence!

            • So you’re telling me its called the TRUTH about guns because it advocates improper use and function of firearms knowledge?

              • Ahh – you’re also implying that “truth” = “intelligence”… You can be truthful and even truth minded without implying, insinuating, casting, or participating in anything intelligent… FWIW, some would (do?) argue that sarcasm is one of the upper most levels of intelligence.

  16. ECG mag holds 10 (standard for the model) +1 in the barrel, 2 xtra mags = 31. BUG holds 5 = 36 total. Folder that I can shave with ’cause I can’t pack a gun @ work. In WA State OC is legal so I carry OWB @ 3’oclock with mag holder @ 10 o’clock and a shirt or jacket that covers the hardware. If it shows when I reach for a tallboy on the top shelf no biggie. Uniform of the day for home lounging is a terry cloth robe and sweats. Dbl stack 9mm ECG does not present well from the robe pocket, so a Tokarev with 3 or 4 xtra mags is for loafing duty. For repelling boarders the carbine de boudoir is 30 rds of 7.62×39. Fusil de maison: 12 ga, 8 rds – 1 #000 3″ mag & 7 with 12 #00 in each.

  17. 12 in my PX4 .40 compact (11 and 1 in the chamber) and a spare mag with 12 in the other pocket.
    Will probably get that backup gun soon – Sig 238??…decisions, decisions…:-)

    • I recently purchased a Sig P238 on impulse. Straight out of the box, I fired 125 rounds with zero problems. Great sights, great trigger, controlled recoil: no pocket-pistol should be so much fun to shoot. Pricey, but I do NOT have buyer’s remorse. Now, back to our regularly scheduled program…

  18. Regular carry FN FiveseveN with an extended CLIP (how high can we make brig’s BP go?) so 30+1, 2 20 round spares in the shoulder holster; Kel-Tec P-11 in the pocket with just 10+1 and no spares.

    Going out in the woods or working in the yard in the woods, Para P-14 with extended mag (so 20+1) and 2 XL-mags in the shoulder holster.

    I switch to the Para in the woods because a bear might get pissed off if he noticed I’d shot him with a 5.7 round. I carry the FN in the city because my back is buggered up enough that the weight of the Para is an issue.

    So, 70+1 in town, 60+1 in the woods for my carry weapons. At home . . .

    • Bruce, You’re as bad as the Rabbi and the guy in the video. At least Robert has the self-effacing good sense to ask, “How many more bullets does a man with psychos lurking in the shadows need?”

      How many civilian gunfights has the Rabbi been in to speak with such authority. And you Bruce, how many?

      The problem is you guys are dangerous. You influence your lower companions in the gun game, guys who don’t have the common sense to think it out for themselves and think you guys are cool.

      It’s extremism and fanaticism, and that’s no good for anybody.

      • So are you suggesting that he carry an empty gun and use it to club an attacker? I don’t know where Bruce travels, and neither do you. I’m guessing that he has valid reasons to carry that much with him. Some places the bad guys travel in packs much like wild animals.

        • If that were the case, I’d need no less than a Sherman tank and a Bowie knife to commute through Detroit every day.

          • Detroit? I can’t argue with your choice, just that you are gonna pay at lot at the gas pump. With the typical small arms of the ghetto gang banger, maybe a armored Humvee would get you thru ok? Seriously, I do NOT envy your commute. That has to be scary every day.

  19. Bill Jordan and Jeff Cooper were right about most deadly force encounters. I’ve been in four shootings…rounds expended were as follows: (1) two rounds (2) one round (3) one round (4) six rounds.

    If one wants to rely on the number of rounds expended by other people in their encounters so be it. Personally I’d rather have more than the minimum recommended by other people.

    I don’t mind being derided by folks who’ve never been there.

    • I was about to say, even for a LEO 4 shootings is a lot. You must be Military or some sort of PMC with a count like that.

  20. It’s been said, and I can’t disprove it, that no one has ever reloaded during a street legal DGU reported to law enforcement in the US. Magazines: The mag in the gun should have been tested recently at the range with the carry load. Has anyone ever had a magazine go bad while sitting in the pistol after testing functional at the range? Bill Jordan: He was a Border Patrol Agent long before the Cartels decided our southern border was actually just another GPS way-mark. I do not believe Jeff Cooper was ever in a shootout with a bad guy, though I’m open to see evidence otherwise. Is there any evidence he was ever in a battle? The most experienced people I have known carry a New York Reload or one spare mag or speed-loader. [I vote we rebel and call a magazine a clip and a clip a magazine. Clip is a nice short word that doesn’t remind me of mag wheels. People who don’t know better naturally prefer the word ‘clip.’]

  21. My step-dad was a LEO for over thirty years. Most of that he worked in the lab. In those years he discharged his weapon during one fire-fight. He was working off-duty security in plain clothes at a grocery store when he was young. He noticed a fellow up at the front of the store pushing an old lady. He then realized the fellow had a stoking mask on.
    He yelled at the masked man to “Freeze” while bringing his S&W Chief’s Special .38 to bear. The robber fired a round and took cover behind the stacked grocery carts.
    My step-dad took cover behind a table stacked with bread and returned fire.
    The robber ran out the front doors after they had exchanged several shots.
    This particular store had a layout of the front doors being at a corner with a second entrance down @100 feet in one of the front walls.
    My step-dad exited the store through that supplemental door to find the bad guy waiting beside the main doors in ambush.
    Again, my step-dad yelled a command or warning. They then exchanged misses again.
    The robber commandeered a car from a woman in the parking lot and drove out of the lot. My step-dad while giving foot chase realized his five shots were spent.
    He yelled to two passing AP in a car who followed the escaping felon. A block away, one of the AP put a single round from his .357 through the backglass of the car and the back of the perp’s head.
    It was then found out; a second robber had been holding the manager of the store at gunpoint feet behind my step-dad during the shoot-out inside. That robber had escaped out the back door to be caught hiding a few blocks away by searching police.
    Results: the rest of my step-dad’s life he carried the same snub-nose WITH five extra rounds in a speed loader. and he visited the second robber in county jail and thanked him for not shooting from feet behind during the shoot-out.

  22. According to Cooper, he used his 1911 to shoot Japanese soldiers on three different occassions, hense his fondness for the big .45 slug.

    • Where does he say that? I’ve never come across it in his writings. According to Wikipedia, and unchallenged over the last two years, “Born John Dean Cooper, but known to his friends as “Jeff”, Cooper was commissioned into the United States Marine Corps prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor. During World War II he served in the Pacific on the USS Pennsylvania (BB-38), and then was recalled to active duty for the Korean War, resigning his commission as Lieutenant Colonel in 1956.” I agree his writings often implied he had WWII Pacific shooting-on-the-ground experience. I haven’t seen anything to contradict the fact that he was assigned to the USS Pennsylvania, though.

  23. My EDC is a SA TRP 1911 with an 8 round magazine, cocked and locked. Two spare 8 round magazines carried on my belt. My BUG is a Ruger SP101 .357 magnum in an ankle holster.

    Never had to use either and hope I never do.

  24. My EDC is a Bersa Thunder 45 UC. Its a 7+1 .45 Auto and I carry one spare. For the home I have a Mossberg 590 with eight double oughts in the mag and six slugs in the sidesaddle. For Jeeping and camping my trusty MAK-90 comes along with two 30 rounders.

  25. FNP45 with a 15 rd. magazine in it, and two backup 14 rd. mags in a pouch on my belt.

    43 rounds of .45ACP 239gr. +P.

  26. Ahron, those incidents occured between December 1972 and November 1999 while working for a police department in south Texas. Yes, it had a disproportionate crime and gang problem. It was not unusual for many of the 165 officers on the department to be involved in several shooting situations over a 20-30 year career.

  27. Correction…I believe those were German soldiers that Cooper had his disagreements with. At any rate he liked the results.

  28. Ropingdown, I don’t think anyone’s biography details their individual shooting encounters unless it’s in the form of a book or something of that nature. I’m sure Mr. Cooper had more experience with firearms that some folks, and less than others. What matters is he survived his encounters. Point is, I wouldn’t ask a bus driver how to fly and airplane. Old warriors should be given some credence…how else did they grow old?

    • Cooper never served in the European theater, so if he shot Germans it was with a camera. He served in Korea but not, as I’ve heard it, on the front lines. (Corrections welcome with facts.) I think Cooper survived to old age by spending the vast majority of his adult years on ships, in universities, and on gun ranges and hunting trips, while living in the healthful climate of the South-West. I will confess here and now that I long ago grew tired of hearing his acolytes spout the one true way: I disagree with the Weaver stance bit, the utility of the so-called scout rifle, and onward. The same goes for Gunsite spinoff Awerbuck’s 870 pump shotgun devotion. These men were (are) great trainers. It is the dogmas and overstatements I’m tired of hearing. I’m an isosceles stance and semi-auto shotgun guy. I’ll get over it. Laugh. And I give JC credit for the 10mm. Loaded to .357 Magnum strength, it’s a fine defensive pistol. Loaded up to SAAMI max it’s a good field backup gun.

  29. I note (re prior posts) that the demonstrator in the video did not stick his finger into the chamber to assure it was empty. I consider that normal in good light, but many others apparently do not. Second, I still prefer using 100mph tape to join two mags. It worked well in RVN, and I don’t want to change the “release, flip, and lock” routine. It’s cheap, too..

  30. I agree on the Weaver stance, and we proved that it doesn’t work in a real situation during force on force training with Simunitions. We filmed it. In close range engagements Not ONE person used the Weaver. Most used the isosceles and often one handed. No one stands rigid and fires at an advisary who’s shooting at them. Especially when the bullets are real.

    Ditto on the ‘scout rifle’. It just doesn’t work for me. I do like the pump shotgun but semi-autos throw a lot of lead in a hurry. As for Cooper, I do like his writing, not necessarily all his ideas.

    • Interesting. I, too, like much of Cooper’s writing, but not so much some of his basic beliefs. I have nothing against the 870, incidentally. I own two, mostly for use as deer slug guns. I just find top-quality current semi-autos extremely reliable and very fast. My home-defense gun is a Benelli M4. I think I hold it against JC that he under-credited the work of Fairbairn. I still think Fairbairn’s “Shooting to live with the one-hand gun” was the most innovative early text on practical shooting (isosceles, one-handed and two-handed), active shoot houses, etc. Anyway, enjoyed your comment.

    • What must be remembered about Jeff Cooper is that he was a teacher, first and foremost. He did serve in WWII as an officer, and regardless of whether or not he specifically took down an enemy troop it is certain he was certainly around people who did.

      During that conflict he learned a lot about combat and human nature , the lessons of which still are relevant today. He spent a life’s work teaching people how to think about self defense. The mind is the most powerful weapon , without which the choice of caliber or ammunition is meaningless. A man or woman mentally prepared to take life with a .22LR will be incalculably more deadly than an opponent with a .45 ACP 1911 and a victim’s mentality. THAT is the Colonel’s legacy,which seems to be missed in all the hand wringing about caliber and the Scout Rifle .

      Perhaps most vitally, while not Cooper’s goal his writings capture a look into what America was like culturally before the leftist lawyers flushed our nation into the socialist drain pipe.

      • Cooper brought a lot to the party, but we tend to forget that there were other important figures before him. Cooper was a better self-promoter than they were, but not a better writer or gun guy.

  31. carry 10+1 and 10 (.40 S&W), home 15+1 and 15 (sometimes a second 15; .40 S&W), AR 30 and 30, 12 ga. 4+1 and 20 in box, 16 ga. 1 and 3×20 boxes. PK380 (wife) 8+1 and 2×8.

  32. If I carry my 1911, then it’s 3 eight round mags +1 in the chamber, 25 total. If it’s the .380, then 22 rounds. When I carried my P226, it was 46.

  33. “Perhaps most vitally, while not Cooper’s goal his writings capture a look into what America was like culturally before the leftist lawyers flushed our nation into the socialist drain pipe.”

    Amen Brother!

  34. Home defense and car defense is a SBR 5.56mm with heavy kit (level IV plate and 3a soft under it with 270 + 28 in the weapon with a G34 with 19+1and 2 spare 19 rounders in the kit. ). I do NOT want to ever run out of ammo. I would rather have far too much than not enough. Lessons taught by my father from Vietnam In 67-68. The kit carries my ammo and rifle, I carry my kit. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting several times

  35. If I’m carrying the Glock 17, then I usually go with what is in the gun. If I’m carrying the 1911, then I carry an extra mag or two. If I know in advance that I’m going into known “hostile territory”, I carry more, as much more as I am comfortable with and circumstances permit. That might include sticking a Winchester 12 ga with mag extension giving me a 9 + 1 in the trunk of the car with a bandolier holding another 20 shells.

  36. I carry what is probably far too much ammo. My EDC is a Springfield XD-S .45, so I have 5 + 1 (I carry it with the shortened magazine), in addition to two more magazines (7 round full grip ones) in IWB mag holders, and one more extended 7 round mag in my pocket. It all conceals nicely with a shirt that’s not skin-tight, and 27 rounds should be sufficient, though I absolutely believe that there is no such thing as carrying too much ammo. If I’m going into a rough area, I tend to carry two more mags, one on each ankle (both 7 rounders of course) in addition to the rest. I mean, with a semi-automatic handgun, it is REALLY easy to burn through ammo, so I think the idea of NOT carrying as many spare magazines as possible is idiotic. Even if I had an XD-M is 9mm (19 + 1), I’d still carry at least two spare magazines.

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