Cull of the Wild. Geddit? The New York Times headline is a riff on Jack London’s classic shaggy dog story Call of the Wild. In London’s book, Buck goes from domesticated doggie to back woods brawler. In the article about East Hampton’s deer infestation, the editorial board contrasts “privet hedges, gentle dunes and white-seashell paths . . . a vision of a natural world tamed and tailored to the high aesthetic standards of the finest fashion and home-décor magazines” with “thousands of car collisions and the spread of Lyme disease, a debilitating illness borne by ticks that live on deer.” Answer? Shoot the damn deer! A regrettable decision for the doyennes of disarmament, but they make an excellent case to their lilly-livered sensitive subscribers . . .
Deer fanciers have sued to block the hunt [link added] calling it barbaric, but they should acknowledge that other things are deplorable, too, like emaciated deer from overabundant herds, and humans sickened by Lyme disease.
The predators that would control this situation are gone, and unless Long Islanders want to live with wolves, coyotes, bears and mountain lions, they will have to assume responsibility for their place atop the food chain.
Nonlethal solutions, like deer contraception, are expensive, slow and unreliable.
“When a population is this far out of balance,” says Allen Gosser of the Agriculture Department, referring to deer, “you need a cull before you can implement other measures,” like birth control.
Right. Kill the deer and then give them birth control like they’re planning down in DC. Yeah, that’s gonna happen. Anyway, the New York Times being the New York Times, the editorial board has to explain their enthusiasm for shooting anything, even though the cull’s being carried out by “federal sharpshooters.”
For deer, suburbia is a 24-hour salad bar. Shooting them is naturally unnerving to people who hate that the American way of solving problems so often involves guns. But other, more palatable solutions have failed.
Heads-up guys! Sometimes guns ARE the way to solve problems. Deer over-population. Discouraging criminals from criminal predation. Stopping criminals when they attack. Same thing. Imagine that!
I wonder if Rabbi Elliott Tepperman of B’nai Keshet is exempt from taxes. If he wants to continue down this route, he should lose it.
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Also, didn’t someone do some tests for TTAG sometime in the past couple years?
No problem with the current amount of coverage. Keep exposing their hypocrisy.
What the hell is a “federal sharpshooter”?
They’re a group from USDA. We use them because our township is very green but populous enough to make rifle use worrisome to most residents. They place piles of corn in a few of the larger more secluded parks and estates. At 2-3 a.m. they come with suppressed .308 rifles and night vision goggles and shoot off 120 or so deer. What “Sharpshooter” means is “a bunch of guys with night vision and suppressed rifles that we wouldn’t want living around here, but trust to do the hunting because we don’t trust each other.”
They’re referring to “USDA Wildlife Services,” http://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/ , formerly known as “Animal Damage Control.” It’s original main mission was to make the West safe for sheep. They killed untold thousands of bears, lions, BALD and golden eagles, you name it. Since they can’t do that anymore, they’re kind of grubbing for work.
If Kel Tec can’t meet demand on their long guns and PMR-30, why don’t they throttle back the PF9? They make so many of them that they’re almost giving them away.
There are not really that many manufacturers for duty weapons. I am hoping that each of them responds with a simple, “no”. Just return the form blank. If Sig-Sauer, Glock, Springfield Arms,, and S&W simply opt out, the entire thing just goes away. Or not. But in either case, gun rights wins.
I’ve handled a couple of KSGs and was thoroughly impressed! Had $1300 price tags BTW .
I’ve got my eye on a Sig 400 and would LOVE to have a Tavor but for the price difference???
I’ll keep my eye on this one though….
A lot of folks here in Cuomo’s unSAFE NY are boycotting hunting licences in hopes the deer population really goes nuts and sends NYC and Albany grabbers a message, through lost revenue and deer problems.
Nah, they’re probably hoping they will be able to outright ban guns since n’body needs a gun ‘cept to kill a dee-ah.
I don’t know how many is a lot but I’ve heard hunting licenses aren’t much lower than the usual decline… I’ve heard people talk about boycotting this and that in NY but most just quietly go get their license \ register their gun later on.
Deer fanciers have sued to block the hunt The only way you can fancy deer is after you hunt them. Deer filet in chanterelle sauce, Smoked deer ham with tarragon mustard, and so forth. That is why Lord Bigsack has a deer park at Slavesweat Manor, not to watch them chew the greensward but to eat them.
The predators that would control this situation are gone, and unless Long Islanders want to live with wolves, coyotes, bears and mountain lions, they will have to assume responsibility for their place atop the food chain. First, the Hamptons are the home of the nation’s major predators. That’s where they summer. As for adding lesser predators like wolves and mountain lions: New Yorkers lobbied to force them on the inter-mountain west rancher, so they might as well enjoy the party. If we need wolves then they need wolves. “Ummmmmm, poodle!”
“When a population is this far out of balance,” says Allen Gosser of the Agriculture Department, referring to deer [we weren’t sure. -ed], “you need a cull before you can implement other measures” We hire these guys in my township, but to be honest the whole thing sounds like Bloomberg’s secret take on the South Bronx.
For deer, suburbia is a 24-hour salad bar. Shooting them is naturally unnerving to people who hate that the American way of solving problems so often involves guns. But other, more palatable solutions have failed. Note how they call it “the American way,” as though NYC and the Hamptons were in another country and only “those guys” use guns to solve problems. As if they weren’t the guys with the Mafia and the Five-Points Gang. Well, they’re getting there. Expect the wall to go up any day now to keep out the New Palestinians.
Given the context of natural rights and the 2nd Amendment wouldn’t the “ethical” thing be to only buy from companies that support ordinary civilians RKBA?
Please keep doing what you’re doing Robert. That’s my suggestion.
Like I said in the last post about MDA, the 2A side of the fight NEEDS a Moms Demand Protected Gun Rights to Protect Their Children group. It’s as simple as that. The anti side is using “moms” because who can say no to mom? Well, you NEED to fight fire with fire, and the mama bears who pack to protect their cubs need to band together, TTAG, NRA, GG2G, whomever, can help get their message out, but they need to be organized!
“Sometimes guns ARE the way to solve problems. Deer over-population. Discouraging criminals from criminal predation. Stopping criminals when they attack.”
I prefer the sterilization approach to criminals. How many bad guys would continue their evil ways if they knew it would cost them their exterior plumbing? I know, I know, “cruel and unusual punishment” … we can dream, can’t we?
I’ve got a solution that doesn’t involve guns: tear up a 50 square mile swath of Hamptons manions and develop a wilderness area to link up with the Pine Barrens; reintroduce the Eastern panther and problem solved.
The AI gave George Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt when he attempted to contact Trayvon Martin. The least we can do is extend the same courtesy to a cop that we do to a vandal watch dude.
We need to keep an eye on our enemies. I wholeheartedly agree with the writers on this.
What may be making people feel like it’s an obsession is because in my opinion gear reviews have felt a little lacking in the last few months that I have been reading this blog every day. For a blog with page views so high I feel like we can get a lot more hard tested gear reviews in. Possibly multidentional reviews. How many times can you review one gun or piece of gear, right? But for us heavy readers it may be nice to put the gear in some hard use, in different scenarios to show us it’s limitations.
In short, focus on what brought me here: the no-BS tell it like it is real world reviews
I think the coverage should continue.
1. It keeps everyone on our side aware (fired up) about their antics and progress.
2. The idea that they are going to get publicity through here doesn’t compute. I don’t think a whole lot of the audience they are trying to capture reads this blog, and if they do it’s an uphill battle for MDA.
-D
When did Seecamp become the “Rolex of pocket automatics”? I’ve never seen one in a gun store, but seen a lot of them in pawn shops. I always considered them a “throw away” gun.
“…naturally unnerving to people who hate that the American way of solving problems so often involves guns.”
And most of the time, it seems to be the constituents of heavily democrat cities and heavily democrat voting congressional districts who are solving their problems with guns. In 40 years of owning guns, I’ve only solved a problem with a gun twice! The second time I didn’t even have to pull it or show it. That was Aug. 1990. Anyone else? When was the last time you solved a problem with a gun?
LEO’s excluded.
I’m more than good with the coverage….rage keeps the focus hahaha
Tomorrow at dawn I’ll be sitting in the palmettos of Buck Lake WMA in Brevard County Florida with a 30-06 rifle and scope in pursuit of wild pigs. The season and limits for wild hogs in Florida use to be somewhat controlled. Guess what happened? The rascals began to multiply and in a decade we’ve witnessed an explosion in wild feral pigs. These are not native to Florida. They were brought here in the 1500’s by Spanish Explorers and released as a source of food for ship wreck survivors. Now they’re destroying golf courses, eating seaturtle eggs, causing hundreds of serious vehicle collisions yearly, consuming crops, spreading several diseases, threatening whitetail populations, attacking goats, fawns, chickens, and pets….result……NO season for wild pigs now! You can shoot them 365 days a year. NO size limit. Shoot the big boars, the piglets, just shoot the devils!! NO bag limits. If you can slay 100 a day that’s just fine with the wildlife commission! NO hunting license required! NO caliber restriction. My point is Florida depends on agriculture and tourism, neither of which the invasive wild pig helps. Sometimes a cull is good for nature. Ya’ll come on down and help us out. We welcome you!
Temporary sanity.
Since they can’t be indentured to perpetual debt service by the moneylenders;
their normal daily activities can’t be directly taxed and regulated under law;
they’re already unarmed and relatively defenseless; and
the prospects for the old-age, illiberal, digressive statists getting them into the voting booths by election time this cycle to support their relentless quest to fundamentally devolve America into the most natural state of Tyranny and abject Despotism is presently unlikely;-
the most obvious solution to this otherwise complex and pressing societal problem is to simply have the local navigators sign the young and healthy ones up for the newly implemented Unaffordable Wealthcare Redistribution Tax @OhDeer.mygov.herd.
Which illegal guns are they targeting with this?
Give MDA their own link on the home page so we have to look for them. They are too dangerous to have in the main blog due to the chance that idiotic drivel is contagious.
The intellectual contortions judges go through to avoid considering the actual factors that speak to constitutionality.
Whether it’s Fast & Furious, or Libya, or the IRS, NSA, etc., or whatever other manifestations of this administration’s gross incompetence, there always plays this same refrain: nobody’s punished or at all held to account, GOP calls for such drone on without action, the administration stalls long enough that the scandal eventually becomes old news and those still harping on it get badgered into “moving on.” Well.
I don’t want to beat dead horses any more than the next guy, but failing to follow through and hold people responsible for gross ineptitude serves only to insulate and incentivize future bad actors to commit future acts of reckless policy. Move on? To what? The next epic fail?
2017 seems a long way away, but it’s coming. Once Holder’s out of office things might look a lot different.
Since this is clearly going to be a ‘toy’ no matter what…. I vote M&P. Low cost ammo, plinking fun, and what a great rifle to introduce noobs to the world of silenced shooting.
My 100 dollar ChiCom SKS is better than any of those plastic overpriced jam a matic AR 22’s. It shoots a 30 caliber bullet vs a .22. Goes bang everytime hasnt been cleaned since the day Suk Muk Dik built it in Uncle Ho’s glorious Peoples Armament Machine Factory #14 in the Year of the Dog. When TSHTF it can be clamped above the driveshaft of an F250 and driven thru the FEMA roadblocks without worrying if the Magpul midlength tac rail with covers got scratched or fell off. Then it can be used to hunt deer, shoot off locks to Walmart distribution centers, beat down DHS Kapos, and driven into the ground to keep the center of the survival tent up. Keep buying those AR 22s even tho every bubbletop has a couple in the trunk for the grabbing if/when TSHTF.
Wonder if they’ll be filing OJI forms for the hearing loss.
Good grief that had to have been loud.
enter me in the contest
When the Jericho scenario happens, Magpul’s manufacturing will be in a position to supply the new Allied States of America, to fight those “rebels” and “traitors” and “terrorists” in Columbus.
But their management will be in a separate sovereign nation…
A bag review? A messenger bag, no less. Where’s the post on the Remington 51? Focus, people. Focus. (J/K)
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