Earlier this month, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America convinced Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop to inject an anti-gun litmus test into his police department’s firearm procurement process. Nine days later, 109 Garden State members of Mayors Against Illegal Guns told the world they’re happy to sacrifice cops’ safety for political correctness. A week after that, Rabbi Joel Mosbacher returned from a European civilian disarmament tour to announce that he, too, wants police departments to force gunmakers to kow-tow to disarmament. And now Rabbi Elliott Tepperman of B’nai Keshet is twisting arms in Montclair, New Jersey, trying to inject politics where it doesn’t belong: equipping cops with suitable firearms. Montclair Police Chief David Sabagh says hell no! Ish. In fact . . .
In Montclair, the major purchaser of taxpayer-funded guns is the Montclair Police Department. Currently, the municipal police use .40 cal. Glock firearms as their official, department-issued guns. This came after a switch from Smith and Wesson 9mm handguns, which the department made around 1994, according to Lt. Angel Roman.
Montclair Police Chief David Sabagh said that the municipal police purchase new weapons on a five- to seven-year cycle. The department’s old weapons are traded back to Glock, which gives the department a discount on the new weapons.
“This reduces the cost substantially,” noted Sabagh.
Roman told The Times that municipal police consider factors such as efficiency, maintenance, accuracy, and safety when choosing what manufacturer to buy from.
Sabagh said that ethical considerations are not currently a main factor in choosing what gun to equip Montclair‘s police, but added that the Township Council has a right to offer its input. If the elected officials want the Police Department to add ethical factors into its purchasing decision, then the MPD would consider their advice.
We’ll take it into consideration. How . . . politic.
If it was me I’d say something like “This department will not do anything to sacrifice the safety of our officer or the general public, or interfere with the public’s Constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.” Of course, that second part is really, really funny given New Jersey’s de facto concealed carry ban. So . . . this is going to get worse.
I do think FN is one of the better companies for making their military variants available to us lowly peasants. That said however, i wish instead of making another AR the could make Cheaper More Affordable SCAR variants released to the general public. The new FNAC is what comes to mind.
I am a ‘smith that works out of the back of my bud’s gun shop, and I help him with sales on weekends. Here’s what I know about PCCs::
According to shop records, we sold 275 new pistol caliber carbines between October 2012 and October 2013. Of those, 41 were JRC, 13 were Theuron Defense, 27 were Kel-Tec, 27 were Beretta. The rest were an assortment of Masterpiece Arms, CIA, and stripped lowers, et.
1) Of those 41 JRC sold, 19 were sent for warranty service due to malfunction/improper operation. 6 of 19 were returned more than once. We’ve taken on trade or consignment 25 of the 41 we sold.
2) We’ve taken 3 Theuron carbines back in consignment or trade of the 13 sold.
3) Of the 27 Kel-Tec, 2 were sent to Kel-Tec to undo/correct owner FUBAR. We’ve not had any comeback for trade or consignment. Yet.
4) Of the 27 Beretta CX4 sold, I’ve serviced 3 in the shop. 1 was to reassemble one for a customer that got frustrated reversing the mag release and the other 2 were for custom mods.
My personal recommendation to anyone that ever asks me ‘What would I buy’ for a PCC is: a VZ58! Okay, sorry … seriously … I tell them to go Beretta UNLESS they already have a Glock, then I recommend the Kel-Tec series, otherwise, I preach the CX4. The CX4 has the simplest takedown, best bolt/internal design, is completely capable of being ambidextrous and has field experience behind it. The CX4 is a civilian model of the MX4 military version. The only difference of note between the CX4 and MX4 is the giggle switch. The Turkish Border Guard purchased 35K of them to phase out there MP5s. The Venezuelan National Army equipped their units with them as well. Can’t say that for the JRC, KT, Theuron or Masterpiece Arms. I am not a fan of the CX4 buis but I can tell you the Aimpoint T1 or their clones cowitness perfectly on the CX4.
I eventually get asked what I own:
1) In my truck, at all times, is a 5 day/4 season bug-out bag that contains a Beretta 96A1 with a 92FS barrel dropped in it and a modified CX4. I run Underwood 147gr +P+ in the mags and do not feel outgunned in any circumstance below 200 meters.
2) In the shop, at all times, is a 30 day/4 season stash that contains my modded VZ58 and my CZ85 Combat pistol.
3) At home is another 5 day/4 season bug-out bag whose artillery is my SR556 and another Beretta 96A1 also swapped over to 9mm.
4) My bug-out location contains ammo for all the above plus an assortment of shotguns, handguns and long range ‘stay-the-fuck-away’ rifles.
5) On my mattress holder is a Beretta 92FS Inox Compact with a Viridian green light/laser combo married to the rail.
Yeah, I know it reads like I am a Beretta fan boy, and I am, and it’s all based on personal experience. That said though, the weapon that is always on me, and always within reach, and is the one I wear at the gun shop, the range, out and about on my property is … drum roll please … my S&W MP45 with manual safety, night sights and another Viridian green laser light combo.
Didn’t mean to derail the topic, just wanted to share a little ‘insider’ info for what it was worth. Your mileage may vary.
(Dealer cost on the JRC is between $642 and $705, depending upon caliber, finish, capacity, compliance config, et. The CX4 is between $699 and $749, and the Kel-Tec between $275 and $299)
Another story headline says it all Rabbi Joel Mosbacher is a Putz.
Fly me to the Hamptons. Give me the keys to a summer home and immunity from prosecution and I’ll cull the fuck out of your deer problem. No charge.
A Michigan governor (democrat yet) made it a requirement for 911 operators to know about and ask callers regarding possible open carry, to avoid these situations. Almost worked, this time…lol
I guess camo and open carry are a bad combination…and never, ever, make a phone call using Bluetooth while open carrying, lest one be considered a mental health risk.
I’ve had a sub 2000 on order for two years, pfft, canceled it. My S&W Shield had been on backorder for nearly 1 year 8 months already( and have yet to get any word on). and I finally got my S&W M&P mags which took a year to get. Lame.
The moderator was wrong in his declaration of the winning team !.
64 to 74 = a change of 10/64 = 16.6%.
18 to 22 = a change of 4/18 = 22.2%. ( THE WINNER )
All this hurts my head and makes the good ole days of buying stuff from Nam vets out of the trunks of their Novas that much more endearing.
Since we have “Obama money,” and “Obama phones,” can we please start calling these “Obama guns?”