National Media Notice the Spreading Second Amendment Sanctuary Movement…And They Don’t Like It

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Members of the Buckingham County Board of Supervisors pledge allegiance to the flag prior to voting to pass a Second Amendment Sanctuary City resolution at a meeting in Buckingham , Va., Monday, Dec. 9, 2019. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

By Denise Lavoie, Associated Press

A standing-room only crowd of more than 400 packed the meeting room, filled the lobby and spilled into the parking lot recently in rural Buckingham County, Virginia. They had one thing on their minds: guns.

The vast majority favored a proposal to protect their right to carry firearms: declaring the county a Second Amendment Sanctuary.

Similar scenes have played out across Virginia over the last six weeks. Gun owners are descending on local offices to demand that their government leaders establish sanctuaries for gun rights.

Chairman of the Buckingham County Board of Supervisors, Donald Bryan, holds up the Second Amendment Sanctuary City resolution during a meeting of the Board in Buckingham, Va. The board unanimously approved the resolution without taking any public comment. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

The resolutions, promoted heavily by the gun rights group Virginia Citizens Defense League, vary from county to county, but most declare the intention of local officials to oppose any “unconstitutional restrictions” on the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. In the last two months, more than 100 counties, cities and towns in Virginia have approved such resolutions.

The current movement began last year in Illinois and quickly spread to numerous states, including California, Colorado, New Mexico and Florida.

In Virginia, home to the National Rifle Association’s headquarters, lawmakers in both parties have traditionally supported gun rights. But in recent years, Democrats have backed tighter restrictions on guns.

Second amendment supporters watch as the Buckingham County Board of Supervisors unanimously voted to pass a Second Amendment Sanctuary City resolution at a meeting in Buckingham , Va., Monday, Dec. 9, 2019. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

The Second Amendment Sanctuary movement began after Democrats promising new gun control laws took over both chambers of the state legislature in the Nov. 5 election.

Gun control proposals gained momentum after a shooter killed 12 people and injured four others at a Virginia Beach municipal building in May. But a special legislative session called by Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam after the mass shooting failed to produce any new gun control bills when Republicans shut it down after just 90 minutes.

Gun control advocates are now proposing an array of new restrictions, including universal background checks, assault weapon bans and red flag laws that would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from people deemed dangerous to themselves or others.

One proposal by incoming Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw has enflamed gun rights advocates and helped fuel the Second Amendment Sanctuary movement. The bill, as initially proposed, would make it a felony to sell, manufacture, purchase or possess assault weapons and certain magazines. Saslaw has since said that allowing current owners to keep their weapons “makes sense,” and he expects to amend the bill.

But many see Saslaw’s bill as the first step down a slippery slope that will end with their guns being taken away.

“We have the right to defend our households and we have the right to defend ourselves — period,” said Jake Eubanks, 35, of Buckingham County, about 75 miles west of Richmond, where officials approved a sanctuary resolution earlier this month.

Darrell Miller, co-director of the Duke Center for Firearms Law, said the sanctuary movement is largely a phenomenon in rural communities, where people have grown up hunting and treasure their guns.

“For whatever reasons, people, especially in these communities, have a deep-seated fear that universal firearm confiscation is just around the corner,” Miller said.

Spectators applaud as the Buckingham County Board of Supervisors unanimously voted to pass a Second Amendment Sanctuary City resolution at a meeting in Buckingham , Va., Monday, Dec. 9, 2019. The board passed the resolution without any public discussion. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

David Campbell, vice chairman of the Effingham County Board in Illinois, said his county was one of the first in the nation to pass a Second Amendment Sanctuary resolution in April 2018. Campbell said he and a local prosecutor chose the word “sanctuary” as a swipe at Democratic leaders who used the word to describe their refusal to cooperate with federal immigration enforcement in the “sanctuary cities” movement.

“We thought, well, if they can do that, why can’t we make Effingham County a sanctuary for legal, law-abiding gun owners?” Campbell said.

The movement caught fire, and today, 70 out the 102 counties in Illinois have approved the resolutions, Campbell said.

“What it’s designed to do is to send a message to our legislators letting them know we are not going to stand for unconstitutional laws being passed like they are trying to do,” Campbell said.

The two sides differ on how effective such resolutions will be.

In an advisory opinion issued Friday, Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring called the resolutions ”part of an effort by the gun lobby to stoke fear” and said the resolutions “have no legal effect.”

U.S. Rep. Donald McEachin, D-Virginia, told the Washington Examiner that Northam could cut off state funds to counties that don’t comply with new gun control laws and could even call in the National Guard to enforce the laws, if necessary.

Northam’s spokeswoman, Alena Yarmosky, said the governor has “absolutely no plans to call in the National Guard.”

Northam said he’s not “looking for retaliation” against localities that pass the resolutions and is confident that local law enforcement agents “will continue to enforce constitutional laws.” He said Virginians made it clear after the Virginia Beach shooting that they support new gun restrictions.

“Virginians spoke after that mass tragedy, they spoke on Nov. 5, and they basically said, ‘’enough is enough,’ ”Northam said.

But Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, said the resolutions will have teeth if local sheriffs and prosecutors agree to refuse to arrest or prosecute people who break new laws they believe violate the Second Amendment.

“The counties are saying, this stuff is unconstitutional. We don’t want it, we don’t want to enforce it, and in most cases, we won’t enforce it,” he said.

One Virginia sheriff has vowed to deputize thousands of county residents “to protect their constitutional right to own firearms.”

“Every Sheriff and Commonwealth Attorney in Virginia will see the consequences if our General Assembly passes further unnecessary gun restrictions,” Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins wrote on Facebook.

Spectators file out of a packed Buckingham County Board of Supervisors meeting after the board unanimously voted to pass a Second Amendment Sanctuary City resolution. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

At the Buckingham County meeting, local resident Marie Flowers was one of the few who opposed the sanctuary proposal. Flowers said she believes the NRA has sold the “”John Wayne syndrome” to gun rights activists.

“Nobody’s freedom is being taken away except for these people who are being murdered,” she said.

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  1. avatar Ironhead says:

    Politicians threatened to use the national guard against law abiding citizens, and then they say that have no plans to do so????
    Hmmmmm….. someone is lying. I wonder who it is…..

    1. avatar Huntmaster says:

      First you have one of the Leading Contenders (at the time) for the democratic nomination for President admit that yes, we absolutely do want to take our guns and then you have leading politicians in the state of Virginia call for the use of military force to do so. And all these years they’ve been telling us they don’t want to do that. Go figure. They must be feeling like they are getting close.

      1. avatar Jayzon says:

        Hmmm, how about quotes from the story;

        ““For whatever reasons, people, especially in these communities, have a deep-seated fear that universal firearm confiscation is just around the corner,” Miller said”

        And then just a few lines down;

        “U.S. Rep. Donald McEachin, D-Virginia, told the Washington Examiner that Northam could cut off state funds to counties that don’t comply with new gun control laws and could even call in the National Guard to enforce the laws, if necessary.”

        Yeah where would these rascally gun owners ever get that idea?

        1. avatar Jayzon says:

          The left lies like this everyday, earlier this week the Democracy Dies In Darkness ‘newspaper’ published a tweet that read “𝑴𝒆𝒓𝒓𝒚 𝑰𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒄𝒉𝒎𝒂𝒔 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑾𝒂𝑷𝒐 𝒕𝒆𝒂𝒎!”. When they were called out on this they immediately did two things.

          1. Called conservatives who called them out misguided and stupid for not understanding the real meaning of “𝑴𝒆𝒓𝒓𝒚 𝑰𝒎𝒑𝒆𝒂𝒄𝒉𝒎𝒂𝒔!”.
          “.

          2. Played the victim card;

          Washington Post editor Marty Baron said “people will use whatever opportunity they have to attack us.”

          He pointed out that “these attacks have been going on for years now” and called the Post a “very convenient target.”

          “We’re not just a target for people on the right, but also sometimes for people on the left as well,” he said. “I think it’s important to remember that. People find it convenient to attack us because they want people to just believe them and not believe 𝙖𝙣𝙮 𝙞𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙥𝙚𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙖𝙧𝙗𝙞𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙤𝙛 𝙛𝙖𝙘𝙩𝙨.” (That’s sarcasm right?)

          These are lying deceitful people what will say and do anything to further their evil ways.

        2. avatar Erik Weisz says:

          And then they deleted that tweet. Cowards.

    2. avatar strych9 says:

      To be fair, it was Rep. McEachin who made the suggestion.

      It’s the governor who says he has no plans to do it.

      When McEachin made the statement he said “…I’m not the governor, but…” which was a nice way of letting us know that he’s not someone but that he’s about to insert his foot into the other guy’s mouth/dick in the statement immediately following “but”.

      1. avatar Southern Cross says:

        And will members of the state National Guard have to take “loyalty tests” to ensure their reliability?

    3. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

      Let us not forget “Nuke Em All” Swallowswell .

      1. avatar BatPenguin says:

        You mean Eric “Fartwell”

    4. You have to realize that on the left, the truth is an ever evolving thing that depends on audience reaction.

  2. avatar forp says:

    When they declare a 2A sanctuary district or city, what laws are they not going to follow? State laws or federal laws or all laws?

    To be clear, I’m a 2A absolutist and think any restrictions are unconstitutional.

  3. avatar Will Drider says:

    People should not overlook and specifically fight for the Rights of our future generations. “Grandfathering” kills Rights when we die off. That is not how the Constitution reads or the whole thing would have expired a Century ago!

    1. avatar LifeSavor says:

      Will Drider,

      Absolutely. This is about preserving the principles upon which the country was founded, not simply preserving the guns in our own cabinets.

      And it is not only about guns, it is about all of our rights, freedom of speach, the right of parents to raise their children without government supervision, medical freedom, and religious freedom, to name a few.

      1. avatar Huntmaster says:

        We don’t want to take your guns from you, we want to take them from your kids. It’ll be easier anyhow after we educate them, and threaten to take all the free shit we’ll be giving them.

        1. avatar Toni Smith says:

          yeah all the free stuff till they have taken all rights and then they will take the free shit as well… NOW WORK SLAVE!!!!! CRACK!!!! (screams)

  4. avatar LifeSavor says:

    I am hoping that the 2A sanctuary movement will precipitate State Supreme and Federal Supreme court cases that will forge the repeal of many, if not all, infringements.

    Wild optimism? Maybe, but it is important to visualize the reality for which we are working.

  5. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    The National Media,propaganda wing of the Commiecrat party is against freedom and liberty,that’s not stop the presses news. They will do everything to undermine the Constitution of the United States as their masters dictate,who gives a Eff the MSM likes or not.

  6. avatar Kendahl says:

    What can the state do to sheriff’s and local police departments and prosecutors who decline to enforce state laws? The state’s only effective enforcement mechanism is to withhold funds. That’s how the feds imposed the 55 mph national speed limit.

    1. avatar LifeSavor says:

      Kendahl,

      I think, in some states, there are procedures through which a Govenor can remove a Sherriff.

      1. avatar Paul Hill says:

        That is what Florida Gov. DeSantis did with Broward County Sherriff Israel . The state senate finished him off.

      2. avatar Kyle says:

        Perhaps, but its a hollow threat if the people in that county choose to not “recognize” the new sheriff and only recognize the old sheriff.

        Insurrections are kinda tricky ground to navigate.

        Its when shots start being fired that things crystallize. One way or the other, thats where this is headed. One side is going with the tactics of the england 1775, one side is going with the tactics of the colonists.

        History does seem to like to repeat itself.

        1. avatar GluteusMaximus says:

          Isn’t it something seeing this play out? These people don’t know how seriously we take this

        2. avatar Cooter E Lee says:

          The King’s tactics including using firearms to suppress the American rebellion and modern day (D) authoritarians have renounced their need for firearms.

          Unless the (D) become what they claim to be against, I predict the shortest and most lopsided battle in the history of the world. Strong words and disapproving glares vs. bullets. It’s hard for me to take anyone seriously that is that naive or immediately willing to 180 degree turn to the thing they claim they are fighting against.

          I Won’t comply and signing 2a sanctuary petitions and hoping to be available to go to Hardin County, KY fiscal court meeting on the 27th to support my brothers and sisters behind enemy lines.

        3. avatar Toni Smith says:

          Cooter E Lee, they are not against it. They are against them being in the hands of anyone they dont control eg the general populace. They love them in the hands of their henchmen who are suitably of the criminal bully boy mindset but who will follow a leader without question…. Eg an IQ below 75

      3. avatar G.W. says:

        LifeSavor – This is true, but the people that made him sheriff would have to agree. They can ignore the Governor and keep him/her in office. The state doesn’t hire or pay Sheriffs, the county does and can tell the governor to pound sand.

    2. avatar Ragnar says:

      Where do those funds come from? Tax payers money.

      If the governor withholds funds from a county, the county’s residents withhold state income tax payments.

      1. avatar Victoria Illinois says:

        Good luck withholding your tax payments. It would be a separate issue. Don’t pay? they take your house. Doesn’t make any difference why you chose to not pay. It’s like a cable bill. Don’t like the service? You signed a contract….you pay….or you get late fees on top of late fees.

        1. avatar GomeznSA says:

          Victoria – don’t forget that property taxes are paid to the County – not the state. IOW – the state cannot legally seize the property, that would be up to the County and I don’t imagine that would happen in a Sanctuary County.
          I wouldn’t put it past totalitarians to try though.

        2. avatar CC Ryder says:

          Victoria,
          Well, I’m not sure what part of Illinois you are from, but in Chicago their a radio program
          on at 5:00am in the morning at AM 560 on the dial. It is hosted by Dan Proft and Amy Jacobson. They were saying that there are some people in Cook County who have stopped paying their real estate taxes and from what was said these people haven’t been tossed out of their house. Of course this was not in an affluent area, but from what the radio hosts were saying is that these sorts of actions may have been starting to take hold in some of the middle class areas near there as well. It’s thought to be because of the ridiculous rise in property taxes in the state. Now from what I can remember I believe that was back in October of this year and I hadn’t heard anything else about it since.

        3. avatar arc says:

          Not only are property taxes paid to the county, but there would be thousands of pissed off residents that would ensure no one lost anything. Plenty of retired and unemployed vets to patrol the streets and check up on a roster of residents who are resisting tyranny. Not to mention, arrest any and all state or federal agents on sight.

      2. avatar guy says:

        Hell yeah!

    3. avatar OreGUNian says:

      Yet when Trump tried to take away funding for sanctuary states and localities for illegal aliens there was instantly an obscure Federal judge somewhere striking it down as unconstitutional???

      1. avatar Victoria Illinois says:

        Where is that judge? We need him to help with the gun sanctuary cities. Or, maybe it’s a state vs federal thing.

    4. avatar AD says:

      I’ve been wondering how that would work myself. At least in my neck of the woods motor vehicle registration and DL fees are paid locally. CCL fees are paid to the local sheriff. Some payroll tax goes directly to the state. Others are local, though.
      It seems the state may have it backwards to whom could withhold funding

      1. avatar LarryinTX says:

        Oh, lord, wouldn’t that be a kick in the ass? The guv announces that he’s cutting off such and such counties, and all counties cease sending any receipts to the state? The guv can’t pay his own salary next month? Can I still buy a ringside seat?

  7. avatar TonyL says:

    Why do they wear “Guns save lives” stickers on their shirts? Protecting the right to own and carry firearms is a core freedom issue, not a safety issue. IMO it makes their position look foolish and vulnerable.

    1. avatar enuf says:

      I’m an old person. I am an old person in part because twice in my life when threatened by criminal element my gun saved my life.

      So the stickers are simply one truth among many truths of gun ownership among the vast majority of American Citizens.

      1. avatar TonyL says:

        You missed the point.

        1. avatar Matt Richardson says:

          He didn’t necessarily miss your point. enuf answered your question without further comment on the rest of your post.

          I agree with you (excluding calling a focus on safety and defense “foolish”) but don’t think that messaging in such a way as to provide perspective for pearl-clutching moms is a bad thing at all. Defense is one of the many facets of our RKBA, but it is a facet nonetheless.

        2. avatar TonyL says:

          Using “guns saves lives” as your central Argument is a guaranteed losing position. Sad that some posters on this forum seem to be missing this. Maybe we are too stupid to deserve keeping our rights.

        3. avatar Baldwin says:

          @TonyL,
          Hypothetical: There’s a huge natural disaster and you find yourself in need of immediate help and a rescue vehicle shows up. But it’s a red vehicle and not an orange vehicle. And deep down in your heart you know that rescue vehicles are supposed to be orange. Do you turn down the assistance?

          Real world: There’s a huge man-made disaster and I find myself in need of immediate help. I’m a VCDL member and I agree “Guns Save Lives” is less than optimal wording. But it is the current form of “rescue vehicle” at hand. I’m going with what is at hand and in hand.

          Oh yeah… WE. WILL. NOT. COMPLY.

        4. avatar TonyL says:

          @Baldwin, that’s one of the worst analogies anywhere, ever. Let me break this down for the thinking impaired…. arguing gun rights on the position that guns save lives instead of gun ownership being a core principle and individual right of Americans is beyond stupid. Guaranteed losing position. Almost intentionally set up to fail.

        5. avatar TonyL says:

          Replacing the Bill Rights with a bumper stick slogan that can be easily and effectively argued against is a fools errand. So much so that I’m assuming it’s intentionally designed to fail.

        6. avatar LarryinTX says:

          I don’t actually care what rationale causes people to arm themselves, so long as people arm themselves. When we need armed people is not the time to start comparing potential purchases. If everyone determines to be prepared to defend their homes against armed intruders, very quickly the guv will drop any plans to send invaders into homes, regardless of the reason homeowners made that determination.

        7. avatar SF in VA says:

          To TonyL – hey, if you’ve got a better idea, let’s hear it! Or better yet, organize your own group and show us all how it’s done.

    2. avatar Vic Nighthorse says:

      For some people it is largely a personal defense issue. Why does that look foolish to you? Not everybody in the RKBA movement thinks the same. If you try to get a perfectly monolithic and consistent message you will end up with just one person, maybe less.

      1. avatar Victoria Illinois says:

        True. And….I’m someone who likes my pearl and guns. I can “clutch my pearls” and guns on the same day. Although I’ve never worn them to the range.

      2. avatar GunnyGene says:

        Around here it’s a BBQ issue. How you gonna have a decent BBQ without a BBQ gun?

      3. avatar TonyL says:

        See above. Same reply to your question.

  8. avatar Casey says:

    “For whatever reasons, people, especially in these communities, have a deep-seated fear that universal firearm confiscation is just around the corner,” Miller said.

    Can’t imagine where we got THAT idea from. Aside from, y’know, all the democratic presidential hopefuls. And all the democrat governors and state legislators pushing for confiscation. And all the democrat mayors of places like Chicago, Baltimore, NYC pushing for confiscation. And all the news media talking about how that’s what “everybody” wants and where we’re definitely going.

    Yeah, us dumb hicks are so stupid – listening to people and believing them when they say what they’re going to do. I mean, obviously THAT isn’t a thing! It’s just a prank, bro!

    1. avatar GasMD says:

      That’s precisely what I was thinking when I read that quote.

    2. avatar GluteusMaximus says:

      Yeah, they are mad we are listening to what they are saying. It’s a slow motion train wreck

  9. avatar Huntmaster says:

    “For whatever reasons, people, especially in these communities, have a deep-seated fear that universal firearm confiscation is just around the corner,” Miller said. It has nothing to do with fear. We know what you are doing.

  10. avatar The Cold Backhand of God says:

    Stupid woman who doesn’t understand.
    It’s not the mass of legal gun owners doing the killing and it’s patently unreasonable to expect them to be punished by micromanaging fools who’ve abused legislative powers.

    1. avatar Docduracoat says:

      It is you who do not understand.
      They do not want control because of crime or terrorism or mass shootings.
      They want to disarm the citizens so they can oppress you.

  11. avatar Huntmaster says:

    When it comes right down to it, what do you trust more, the pistol on your side or the police to get there in time, protect you and your family and not shoot your dog.

  12. avatar GS650G says:

    It’s easier to disarm law abiding citizens than the vermin. And vermin vote too so they have their support .
    Now they have to arrest the gun owners. Too badillegal aliens aren’t dealt with first.

  13. avatar Doc Samson says:

    I like it when Prog-tards speak about this subject because:

    1. It puts their ignorance, hypocrisy, and fear on display for those of us capable of rational thought to see and mock,

    2. It pulls the curtain back on the “We don’t want to take your guns.” song and dance, and

    C. Makes me a little jealous that they can be so dedicated to destroying this country that facts simply do not matter to them. Can you imagine how easy it would be to take back our country if “we” were like that, particularly with rational thought on our side?

    My biggest worry (and I’ve seen this mentality on a few firearms sites) is that we will all be happy if/when the Left backs down just a little and only imposes some very “minor” infringements… again.

    1. avatar Toni Smith says:

      Mate you have an aussie here who cant stand any of the infringements. The ones here chafe sooo bad that I would love to move to the US where there is at least some chance of fighting back…. here the slave mentality is strong in most and i hate it with a passion. I want liberty on all levels

  14. avatar Bob in Calif says:

    “But many see Saslaw’s bill as the first step down a slippery slope that will end with their guns being taken away.”
    Behold, the California Cancer is spreading. First we needed a “bullet button”, Now it’s not an option. Mfg’s have a new workaround but it’s just a matter of time before that is gone too. Assault rifles (however they are defined TODAY) must be registered. Retirement is getting closer, and the time to flush this state is near. The best thing coming out of California is I-80E. The most beautiful sight here is “Welcome to California” in the rear view mirror.

    1. avatar G.W. says:

      Bob, just please, leave the attitude that made California the way it is today in California when you leave. No need to leave, if you are going to bring all that garbage with you.

      1. avatar Bob in Calif says:

        G.W. not to worry. I’ve been choking on this BS long enough. I am getting up there in years and the fight behind enemy lines is looking more and more like a losing battle. Too many liberals here supporting the Democommunists. Sometime you just have to cut and run. I’ll do my part come Nov. When I hit the state line on my way out I’m flushing this toilet. You can rest assured that I will not carry any Calif BS with me.

        1. avatar guy says:

          Flushing lol is the whole bums using the sidewalks as bathroom thing really as bad as the news says? I just imagine a meme where the sidewalk says 2a and then a bums dropping a deuce on it lol.

      2. avatar OBOB says:

        GW most people leaving these days are the ones that remember the other 49 states not helping or noticing the state of california’s last sane gasp in 1994 with prop 187 and roll forward to now and low and behold it basis of illegal aliens ruining the state are filling the whole nation now…and now the other 49 states are finally taking notice of the damage where they are!

        Or AKA too bad you other 49 states did not help before this all got out of hand?

  15. avatar Tim says:

    Double-edged swords do indeed ‘cut both ways’.

  16. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

    Look at it this way this Moron of a Democratic Governor in Virginia became the Republicans best friend for the 2020 elections. If this does not galvanize gun owners to get out and vote in 2020 nothing will.

    On the other hand Dems in other States now realize if they can take both houses in other states gun control will be a certainty in 2020. And a lot of parents (many of whom are Republicans) are fed up with school shootings so guess which party they will be voting for. It sure as hell will not be for the Republicans.

    1. avatar pwrserge says:

      School shootings are statistically irrelevant. The per-capita death rate from them can be rounded to zero.

      In any case, bullets beat ballots and we have all the bullets. What are you going to do? Call the cops you call “jackbooted thugs in uniform”? Yeah. They’ll certainly jump at the chance to get shot fighting for you. Oh, wait… how about the military you’ve been demonizing for the past 20 years? Nope, they hate your guts too. Trump is going to sweep 2020, by ballot or by bullet. I’d get out of the country were I you commie. Otherwise, you might have to throw your dragondildo at the fireteam that kicks down the door to your mom’s basement to drag your out for your treason trial.

      1. avatar moreadventuresonotherplanets says:

        “”””””””””””””””””””School shootings are statistically irrelevant. The per-capita death rate from them can be rounded to zero.””””””””””””””””

        The only thing that can be rounded to zero is your santity that’s for sure.

        Trump has lost the votes of the Farmers and the east cost fisherman because of his idiotic trade war.

        Trump has lost the woman’s vote.

        Trump has lost the Latino vote

        Trump has lost the Black vote because of his reversing of Obama’s crack down on police murder and brutality most of which is leveled at minorities although this week the cops did kill a white guy who was disabled by literally choking him to death.

        Trump this week is now even losing the support of the Christian community as the open letter to him stated.

        Trump has lost the vote of the Independent voters who are sickened and disgusted because of his ties to Russia and his Ukraine scandal which was a continuation of using foreign governments to interfere in our elections. This has not gone unnoticed by 330 million American voters especially his recent impeachment.

        Now stable genius tell us how Trump is going to make himself king in 2020. This should really bring us a good laugh.

        Your mind may exist on the dark side of the moon but normal people still have their feet on the ground on planet earth.

        1. avatar pwrserge says:

          Yeah… that’s not what the data shows. He has a higher approval rating than Obama and the backing of the military as well as tens of millions of heavily armed supporters. What do you have? A bunch of stoners, feminazis and other degenerates. There’s a reason why the Demokkkommie party is committing political suicide with their impeachment for non-crimes. If they thought they would be a relevant party after the 2020 elections and wouldn’t all be swinging from wire nooses, they wouldn’t be quite this desperate.

        2. avatar GluteusMaximus says:

          You wouldn’t know a farmer if one bit you on the ass

        3. avatar OBOB says:

          here ya go CNN even backs that Trumps numbers are up across the board!

          https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1207995708868968449

        4. avatar PATRON49IFT says:

          moreadventuresonotherplanets: You should really step away from the pipe, it is not healthy for you. The statements you make are factually incorrect. But then I think you already know that.

        5. avatar LarryinTX says:

          Is anybody looking at the numbers, either for 2019 or forecast for 2020? If they are even close, Trump will have a serious chance of a 50-state win, nobody could vote against that kind of success, that level of national joy. Which will set him up to turn over the country in 2024 to a 1-party system because the Democrats won’t even show up.

  17. avatar David Bradford says:

    This drives me absolutely BONKERS every time I see Red flag, ERPO laws described this way.
    “red flag laws that would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from people deemed dangerous to themselves or others.”
    It sounds so benign and reasonable, but that is not how it works. That’s not how any of this works! No one is being “DEEMED” dangerous, they are only being accused of maybe, possibly, given the right circumstances, some day down the road could have a bad day and shoot someone…maybe! If they WERE an actual threat, they would be locked up. And then the “temporary” removal has no end point. Because you can’t prove that you won’t maybe, possibly, given the right circumstances, some day down the road have a bad day and shoot someone…maybe, they will never give you your rights back.

  18. avatar strych9 says:

    “Nobody’s freedom is being taken away except for these people who are being murdered…”

    Well, except all those people who’s guns would be made illegal. And all the people who’d end up in prison for owning something that was formerly legal. And all the people who become victims of emboldened criminals…

    You know, it’s interesting that they keep talking about the 2A on this. What they’re not saying speaks volumes. I pointed out yesterday, Virginia has it’s own version of the 2A at the state level. It’s Art. 1, Sec. 13 of the State Constitution.

    So even if they want to whine about how the Federal Constitution doesn’t apply to the states they’re still required to either follow their own State Constitution or amend it. But they don’t want to talk about that. It seems like they have a total inability to grasp their own arguments and/or follow the law.

    So, why should anyone else follow the new laws that don’t conform to either Constitution? I mean if pols can’t be bothered to follow multiple sets of laws then why should anyone else?

    1. avatar John in AK says:

      Perhaps she is merely confused. After all, it’s not normally the people with the guns who are getting murdered; It’s the ones that DON’T have the guns that tend to be the ones getting murdered, as a rule.

      There might be a lesson, there, somewhere, if I could only wrap my mind around it.

      Naaaah.

  19. avatar Fred says:

    Luke 22: 36 says it all. Merry Christmas!

  20. avatar 2A is okay, it can even cure libtardism says:

    I hope it spreads faster than my ex spread herpes! Keep spreading, don’t use condoms for the 2A!

    1. avatar Toni Smith says:

      Condoms can be good for keeping crap out of the business end of the barrel which makes it better for the one behind it. So for that reason and that reason alone I say condoms have one good use for the 2A

  21. avatar Alan says:

    Regarding the likes and dislikes of “media”, is one supposed to care, or to bow down to the likes or dislikes of this self serving mob? Where is it so written, or have I missed something?

  22. avatar Alan says:

    Regarding the calling out of The National Guard, following question might well be worth considering. Who makes up this National Guard? Quite possibly, people who oppose the questionable antics of Governor Northam, not to mention those who view, with significant question, proposed legislation related to firearms ownership and the possession thereof.

  23. avatar Admiral Skycap says:

    My *house* is a Second Amendment sanctuary.

    And let’s not pretend like we’re going to play along with the Fake Reasons that the Radical Left is putting out there — the “reasons” they want to seize our AR’s and their ilk … that we don’t know what the *real* disarmament agenda is all about. Hint: it’s to subjugate the Right and strip citizens of the weapons (ability) they would need to effectively resist the tyranny of a Blue Coup — by the party that *I* have voted for my entire life. Think about that and reread what I just posted. Sorry, the 2nd Amendment is where I *as an American* draw the line. I don’t care what party is trying to pull this crap.

    ***

    You might want to order yourself 5,000 to 10,000 rounds of 5.56, 7.62, 6.5 etc *tonight* — while you still can — in case *ammunition sales* are suspended in coming months in your city or state. Unlikely to go down nationally, but possible. After all, you can’t go to the range to target practice if you don’t have any bullets.

  24. avatar Ark says:

    It’s amazing how they’re still bitching about the NRA when the NRA is completely missing in action in Virginia.

    1. avatar Andrew Lias says:

      I’m glad you noticed that too. It’s not like the NRA had much of anything to do with this it’s far more grassroots and that’s something they can’t admit. That part of the narrative will go out the window if groups like the VCDL take up the torch on the NRA getting torn apart. In a way I think that would actually be worse than the NRA staying alive. The reasons why are you’ll see resources going to people who are aggressive and innovative who didn’t have them before, there will be a higher ideological purity (lets be real here the NRA is very dilute in the gun rights area) there will probably be less conflict with the “training” wing of the org (one of the reasons the NRA are pro police and you haven’t seen statements about people like Philando Castille) and you’ll probably see a lot of gun owners take it as an omen that things are about to hit the fan and you’ll end up with a lot of fudds (not close to all of them by any means) getting a wake up call about what’s happening and the end games. It’s also harder to fight a state by state game than a national game for the MSM. You could have organizations appear and disappear as “popups” who just wither away and a new one forms if they get thrashed by the MSM.

  25. avatar Pete says:

    “Gun control proposals gained momentum after a shooter killed 12 people and injured four others at a Virginia Beach municipal building in May”
    They should have simply passed a law making municipal buildings “Gun Free Zones”.
    Oh, wait…

  26. avatar sound awake says:

    jack reacher just before he kicked everybodys ass:
    remember…you wanted this…

  27. avatar Chris T in KY says:

    Virginia Beach called weak on illegal immigration
    https://www.pilotonline.com/government/local/article_36f4cb39-3536-5eb8-a27a-8d20ff8e9eb5.html

    “Another factor, experts say, is Attorney General Mark Herring’s opinion in January that local law enforcement agencies don’t have to hold immigrants in the country illegally for federal authorities.”

    The Virginia AG Mark Herring has no moral authority. He is just a gangster with a badge. If your getting your guns ready. I suggest everyone get self defense insurance.

  28. avatar Chris says:

    The dems are getting a taste of their own medicine. They wanted sanctuary cities for illegals, we give them sanctuary states for responsible gun owners.

  29. avatar Robert Messmer says:

    Quote: “To be fair, it was Rep. McEachin who made the suggestion. It’s the governor who says he has no plans to do it.” That would be the Governor who first said, ‘yep that is me in the blackface’ then said ‘I can’t remember if I was in blackface or the KKK uniform’ and then said ‘I don’t know if I am in the picture’. Forgive me if I don’t place a lot of faith in any thing he says.

  30. avatar DarryH says:

    Let him call in the National Guard. Let’s see how many of them will disarm their own families, and themselves. This would start a militia movement through the entire US, and maybe bring these socialist to their knees and to prison for treason.

    1. avatar AD says:

      In parts of VA, it may only lead to some very well fed bears.

      1. avatar guy says:

        Pigs that haven’t eaten in a day or two would do a better job ( ;

  31. avatar Bemused Berseker says:

    If Gun Control Legislation worked, I might view things differently, but every piece of Legislation has failed in its stated intent to reduce Gun Violence. EVERY EFFORT HAS FAILED!
    Only an absolute imbecile keeps doing the same thing over and over and expects to see different results. The truth is the DemoSociaCommunists want an unarmed population, simply because its not about Guns or Violence, it’s about control. An Unarmed populace doesn’t fight back when they’re ordered into the Stock Cars. Remove the populations ability to fight back or resist, and it’s much easier to fo with them what they will.
    Much ado has been made over the Legal Effect, and I freely stand and condemn those Leeches in suits known as Lawyers and Politicians who follow that thinking, and I remind them of another document to which many of our Founders signed their names. That document, the current group of crooked politicians and Lawyers ignore at their own peril, but it predates the Constitution and the Bill of Rights by several years, and its importance to this country is sacrosanct. That piece of parchment establishes that the right to govern is only granted by the consent of the governed. That the governed, We the People, have the Right to dissolve the government should it engage in or act in any way other than the peoples best interests. Any acts we view as tyrannical, we have a sacred duty to fight and abolish, by force if necessary, any of our God granted Freedoms.
    So tread carefully Mr (Bought my Office) Governor, Mr AG (A-Hole General), and Mr. (I know better than you) Congress Critter, the noose you’re threatening will be around your necks should you choose to tyrannize We the People, and on your heads shall fall our judgement. Sic Semper Tyrannus!

  32. avatar Kap says:

    Ho Chi Min the Democrats support your local VC program, vote them out!

  33. avatar Cuteandfuzzybunnies says:

    These laws are toothless. They need to pass laws restricting the amount of money cities and counties can spend enforcing the gun laws to zero or near zero. This way there is a legal enforcement method.

  34. avatar dwest says:

    Illegal alien sanctuary cities are unlawful, but declaring yourself a 2nd Amendment sanctuary is in total alignment with the BoR of the Constitution, the highest law in the United States.
    Any politician in favor of gun control should lead by example and disarm their security, get rid of their own firearms, and post signs on their front lawn declaring it a “gun-free” zone
    Molon Labe, mic drop.

  35. avatar ReBecca says:

    Why aren’t the citizens recalling this poor excuse for a govenor??? – He is trampling on the Constitution which he took an oath to uphold. This is really the only option.

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