By Mike McDaniel
Many readers are, I’m sure, familiar with the Tuelller Drill. In 1983, police officer Dennis Tueller conducted research that revealed that an assailant armed with a knife can close 21 feet and inflict deadly wounds on a police officer before he can draw, fire and hope to stop the attacker. Obviously, an attacker armed with a sword can do the same at greater distance or in a shorter time due to the length of their blade.
It might seem counterintuitive to some, particularly if they reflexively consider the Second Amendment a menace. But this knowledge absolutely refutes a fundamental gun control argument: without guns, violence would be greatly reduced or eliminated. Some civilian disarmament advocates suggest that if only there were no guns, there would be no gunshot deaths.
Radical gun control and confiscation, of course, would disarm only the law-abiding. Only criminals and governments would retain firearms, and history reveals gunshot deaths would continue at very high levels; the only difference would be the people doing the shooting.
Governments with a monopoly on lethal force inevitably use it against their citizens, as there is nothing to restrain their worst, most authoritarian impulses. And of course, criminals are always as armed as they please.
Just for the sake of argument, though, let’s consider what a world without firearms would look like. Would violence really be substantially reduced?
At the battle of Marathon in 490 BC, as many as 6600 were killed within five days using weapons no more modern than spears and swords. At the battle of Actium in 31 BC, using the same kinds of weapons, as many as 7500 were killed in a single day (almost twice the number of Americans killed in the entire Iraq war).
At the battle of Hastings in 1066 AD, as many as 6000 died in a day. At the battle of Agincourt in 1415 between 7100 and 10,500 died.
All of these men were killed and wounded without the use of firearms. Their most advanced personal projectile weapons were bows, but edged and blunt trauma-producing weapons accounted for much of the casualty total.
It takes only seconds and an internet connection to find thousands of people killed or wounded with knives even today. But to extend the argument just a bit further, consider these recent cases (just the last few weeks) of crimes committed by people wielding swords. Yes, swords.
Missouri: Woman smiles in mugshot, accused of killing boyfriend with sword on Christmas Eve
Her boyfriend, 34-year-old Harrison Stephen Foster was found in the basement and pronounced dead. He had been stabbed three times, according to police.
Wilson allegedly told police she and Foster took meth earlier that day. She claimed Foster had been harvesting body parts and had “several other entities living inside his body for the past several months.” By stabbing him, she was “setting him free,” Wilson claimed, according to police.
New York: Greek-American Man Fatally Stabs Partner with Sword in Queens
The NYPD said that Ikonomou “stabbed his girlfriend to death with a sword and stuffed her in the closet of his apartment before calling cops to falsely report a robbery.”
The police described the process of discovering the tragic scene in the Brentwood, Queens apartment, saying that the case came to light after Ikonomou’s mother had decided to visit her son because he had been unresponsive. She immediately discovered the situation and Ikonomou was incredibly unstable and appeared to be intoxicated.
New Mexico – Las Cruces man pleads guilty for killing mother with sword
According to the arrest affidavit, Hunt woke up around 4 a.m. and began contemplating the way his mother treated him over the years in July 2014.
Sometime before 7:30 a.m., police said Hunt went into his mother’s bedroom with a long sword which he used to strike his mother’s hand and head, the arrest affidavit.
Hunt’s 31-year-old wife and their two children, ages 8 and 9, were in the home.
These happened just within the last few weeks and there are thousands more examples like them. Edged weapons — swords — can also be used in self-defense:
A Georgia man is facing charges after allegedly molesting his girlfriend’s 5-year-old daughter, according to police and media reports.
The child’s mother reportedly caught her boyfriend, John Lawarren Williams, in the act when she walked in on Williams allegedly assaulting the child in her Twiggs County home, WMAZ-TV reported.
The woman grabbed a sword that was in the home and slashed Williams as she tried to stop him from leaving while she called police, according to WMAZ.
The wars in the Middle East and Afghanistan taught us many lessons, but one is particularly applicable to this issue: even essentially medieval craftsmen can produce modern firearms like functional AK pattern rifles.
Consider this passage from a 1922 book regarding Afghan gun makers:
“The villages of the pass are famed for a strange industry — the manufacture entirely by hand of rifles and ammunitions, especially rifles, to the eye so like the products of European arsenals as to deceive all but experts. For these, since they are comparatively cheap and serviceable, there is a ready sale all along the border.”
Fast forward to 2012:
“We met a local gunsmith, Farid Shah from Zarghoon Khel, Darra. This man has a workshop set inside his small shop and has a single helper. ‘I produce Kalashinkov (AK-47) rifles and 12 gauge shotgun rifles in the Kalashinkov design,’ said Farid Shah.
Replying to a question about the quality of his guns, he simply said that his guns were no match for the Russian, Chinese or Pakistani guns produced in Wah Ordnance Factories.
‘A gun made manually from ordinary steel manually cannot match a gun produced in a well equipped factory from weapon grade steel using computerised machines,’ claimed Farid, adding that his guns were bulky and since there is no standardisation in the workshops, it is not possible to replace parts.
Hence, if something goes wrong the entire gun has to be thrown away.
‘This gun costs Rs12,000 a piece and takes 10 days to complete. But we cannot produce quality automatic weapons. Locals know it that is why no one would buy a Darra made AK-47 rifle in Peshawar or the rest of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa (K-P).”
Even with these drawbacks — by western standards — there is a real market for these guns.
Firearm technology is ubiquitous. You can build a functional firearm with about $20 and a quick trip to your local Home Depot. And that’s to say nothing of the expanding technology of 3D printing.
Even if gun-grabbers’ wildest dreams were realized and every gun in America somehow magically disappeared, it would take very little material and time to produce new firearms. It would take even less time and materiel to produce swords. The armament genie is well and truly out of the bottle…and has been for centuries.
As has always been the case, it isn’t the weapon that kills, it’s the human being who decides to use it for evil. Gun control has always been a quixotic attempt to somehow harness and alter human nature. Because it is invariably focused on depriving the honest and law-abiding of the means of armed self-defense — not “getting guns out of the wrong hands” — it has never worked. And it simply never will.
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My cousin killed a guy with a machete for not turning off the TV before the guy fell asleep.
That’s just to damned picky.
Seen a couple of guys disembowled. As well as many others with serious edged weapon wounds. More afraid of those than a handgun caliber wound. Now, understand, a rifle caliber wound is a whole other animal. Don’t want any part of those.
Seems to be the trend in England since they came down on handguns. Now many parts of England, London in particular are putting restrictions on Knife purchases and ownership based on age. You must be 21 to purchase and they are looking into knife registration for any blade over 4 inches long, has a point or serrations. Including any and all knives currently in home or restaurant ownership. Recently a member of Parliament has requested an appropriation for a study on the knife culture among Criminals. Specifically among young (12-18) year old Criminals.
“Seems to be the trend in England since they” began admitting 3rd world tribesmen of their former colonies after WWII. And now just any random barbarian can come squat in Jolly Ole.
“If Only We Could Make All The Guns Disappear . . .”
these people never stop lying. they don’t want to make guns disappear, they want to make YOUR guns disappear.
The want to make the gun owners disappear. Either into a pit or up a chimney.
This “script” has already been written, produced, and released as a movie. If you want a glimpse into the future, most science fiction films at least the good ones, can tell you what your world will be like in the future.
Hollywood has already “made guns disappear”. And it didnt work out to well either. I saw this film when it came out. It’s a very bloody/gory movie.
From 2010: “Bunraku”, 125 min long
In the aftermath of a global war, guns have been outlawed but people still fight, using blades and fists. Staring Woody Harrelson, Ron Perlman, Demi Moore.
“This “script” has already been written, produced, and released”
the gulag archipelago, by solzhenitsyn.
Don’t leave out your hero’s book, mein kamph.
Suddenly I got a yen to get a sword🤠
Reminds me that I’ve always wanted a tomahawk, but for some reason have yet to buy one.
The M-48 hawk is awesome.
Almost anyone can throw one with deadly results.
I’ve seen The Patriot. I also want one of those thingies that Chingachgook used to kill Magua in Last of the Mohicans.
A gunstock club! Those things are *brutal*. The American Indians started making them in the 1500s, after seeing the shape of European long rifles.
Cold Steel makes (made?) some ugly synthetic ones, and there are quite a few actual blade & weapon craftsmen out there making them, too. They had contestants make gunstock clubs in an episode of Forged in Fire, too.
I have several.
The best part is the savings on hearing protection and range fees.
Also, very fast reload times.
Don’t buy cheap ones.
They work, but like the handmade firearms, not very well.
I’ll take a semi-automatic hand crossbow.
I got a sword, just real quick after TX made it legal to carry one! Just too cool, my family thinks I’m nuts but harmless, but I just got a Roman short sword (18″ blade), not sure I won’t end up with a Samurai someday. Why? Why the hell NOT?
“a fundamental gun control argument: without guns, violence would be greatly reduced or eliminated”
you have to understand these people – to them, you not doing what they say is violence, but their violence is not violence. so in their minds, they’re absolutely right, and you arguing against them just proves it.
What’s with that pic?
Looks like a pissed off Audi salesperson after the buyer passes on the BS paint sealant option.
Lol. JC telling us in a subtle way that he owns an Audi. As if anyone gives a shit.
My sister owns an Audi Q4 crossover SUV yuppie some shit. Nothing but trouble with it. Mostly drives her Hyundai.
I haven’t liked anything Audi has produced after the Coupe GT Quattro from the late 80s.
My little troll is wrong…..as usual. 🙄
Keep dancing monkey 🤡, I command you. 🤣
i was driving a friends a6 and the heads up display admonished me, “please place both hands on the steering wheel, driving is a serious task.”
oh, my hands were off the wheel because it was fun to watch the car steer itself back towards the center of the lane… if you don’t signal it fights you.
“Marathon … Actium … Hastings … Agincourt”
you should list some asian battles. 100,000 per engagement was common. europeans never exceeded those totals until wwi.
I was disappointed that Cannae was not mentioned;
Polybius writes that of the Roman and allied infantry, 70,000 were killed, 10,000 captured, and “perhaps” 3,000 survived. He also reports that of the 6,000 Roman and allied cavalry, only 370 survived.
Livy wrote, “Forty-five thousand and five hundred foot, two thousand seven hundred horse, there being an equal number of citizens and allies, are said to have been slain.” He also reports that 3,000 Roman and allied infantry and 1,500 Roman and allied cavalry were taken prisoner by the Carthaginians. Another 2,000 Roman fugitives were rounded up at the unfortified village of Cannae by Carthaginian cavalry commanded by Carthalo, 7,000 fell prisoner in the smaller Roman camp and 5,800 in the larger. Although Livy does not cite his source by name, it is likely to have been Quintus Fabius Pictor, a Roman historian who fought in and wrote on the Second Punic War. It is Pictor whom Livy names when reporting the casualties at the Battle of Trebia. In addition to the consul Paullus, Livy goes on to record that among the dead were 2 quaestors, 29 of the 48 military tribunes (some of consular rank, including the consul of the previous year, Gnaeus Servilius Geminus, and the former Magister equitum, Marcus Minucius Rufus), and 80 “senators or men who had held offices which would have given them the right to be elected to the Senate”.
Later Roman and Greco-Roman historians largely follow Livy’s figures. Appian gave 50,000 killed and “a great many” taken prisoner. Plutarch agreed, “50,000 Romans fell in that battle… 4,000 were taken alive”. Quintilian: “60,000 men were slain by Hannibal at Cannae”. Eutropius: “20 officers of consular and praetorian rank, 30 senators, and 300 others of noble descent, were taken or slain, as well as 40,000-foot-soldiers, and 3,500 horse”.
Some modern historians, while rejecting Polybius’s figure as flawed, are willing to accept Livy’s figure. Other historians have come up with far lower estimates. In 1891, Cantalupi proposed Roman losses of 10,500 to 16,000. Samuels in 1990 also regarded Livy’s figure as far too high, on the grounds that the cavalry would have been inadequate to prevent the Roman infantry escaping to the rear. He doubts that Hannibal even wanted a high death toll, as much of the army consisted of Italians whom Hannibal hoped to win as allies.
Livy recorded Hannibal’s losses at “about 8,000 of his bravest men.” Polybius reports 5,700 dead: 4,000 Gauls, 1,500 Hispanics and Africans, and 200 cavalry.
Carthago delenda est. Over 100,000 killed, about 50,000 sold into slavery, and an untold number starved to death. Not a single gun involved.
I took up fencing, once, but could not see how chain link could be practical for self-defense, and especially not for concealed carry.
Soft body armor will stop a pistol bullet, but not a knife. There are now fine mesh stainless chain cloth (often used to make gloves for butchers) that will stop a knife quite well without the weight, oil, and rust. Still need the soft armor for pistols. Neither will do much for blunt force trauma.
P.S.: it is damn hard to conceal carry a 3′ long battle sword….Just sayin.’
That buzzing sound is the joke going over your head.
Barbed wire works if you throw the rolls hard enough.
From a large trebuchet would make an interesting test. Wire unrolling in flight.
Swap that to concertina wire & we have a deal.
We’re going to need a video.
Modern day world without guns….
Family of Uber driver killed with stolen knife, machete sues Walmart > https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-uber-driver-killed-family-sues-walmart-met-20170626-story.html
You can NOT make this shit up!
Hannibal killed 50,000 Romans at Cannae in a single day – not one of them a ‘gun death’. The Romans slaughtered or enslaved (mostly slaughtered) over a million Jews and leveled (literally) Jerusalem in 70AD without a single ‘gun death’. Ghengis Khan…
Don’t forget about all the stabbings in the communist Chinese elementary schools. Nearly all the victims are children. A nation where guns are totally banned in the socialist utopia. In the 21st century.
Great idea! Criminals will never think of using knives, hammers, swords, rocks, sticks, cars and bombs as weapons!!!
I don’t need no stinking sword, I want a light saber.
What they really want is to do get rid of all of us. The guns are just in the way.
If guns are the problem, then the private armed security guards hired by gun control advocates are part of the problem. They don’t believe their own propaganda. Why should we? Oh, I forgot. Their rules aren’t for them.
Been a number of years since I actively trained in a Dojo, but, I think I can still use a sword if I had too. My own ancesters raised a lot of hell and killed a lot of people with nothing but axes, swords and spears. Of course they had their longships as well, but that just made them a bit more mobile. As a collector, I do have things other than firearms in the collection. I also use a bow and a crossbow for hunting. Could easily use either for offensive, or defensive measures as well.
If, as is stated in the title, the guns all disappeared today, there would be someone on the phone or searching the net looking for a way to bring firearms in from other parts of the world. Or looking for detailed plans and blue prints to use to machine parts to make firearms. The gun genie, as well as the other assorted weapons genie’s are long since out of the bottle.
Need more emu nition. Nice thing about swords they dont.
I’ll keep my gunms thank you very much.
If one has money, they will aquire anything that they desire. Note how well the war on drugs has kept our country drug free.
To be fair, if ALL guns disappeared, these miltoast, smart-mouth, bony ‘men’ would cease to be relevant and their wives would leave them.
Then again, you’ll likely get the same result if ALL main stream media dissapeared. We wouldn’t be living in clown world either…
“Man fights with his mind. His hands and his weapons are simply extensions of his will, and one of the fallacies of our era is the notion that equipment is the equivalent of force.” Jeff Cooper.
“Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons. The possession of a good rifle, as well as the skill to use it well, truly makes a man the monarch of all he surveys. It realizes the ancient dream of the Jovian thunderbolt, and as such it is the embodiment of personal power. For this reason it exercises a curious influence over the minds of most men, and in its best examples it constitutes an object of affection unmatched by any other inanimate object.”
~ Jeff Cooper
There are two kinds of objects in the world. One kind comprises objects I know how to use as weapons. The other kind I haven’t figured out but I’m working on it.
Steven Paddock slaughtered and shot 411 people and killed 61 with a converted assault rifle that he was able to shoot full auto with a bump stock and all in a matter of seconds and from over 400 yards away. The Bands pistols were useless and they ran for their lives. The Band said later they changed their minds about tough gun laws. Seeing was believing.
Contrast this to the crude home made single pistol a German man made and only succeeded in killing one person last year. Irrefutable proof that tough gun laws work and work well.
Why do European and Asian countries not have huge amounts of people slaughtered every other day like in Capitalvania where life is considered cheap and expendable. The answer is simple, tough gun laws that vet out maniacs and criminals. The Stats that register the mass carnage in Capitalvania as compared to civilized countries are there for all to see and react in horror to. This is something no amount of lying and denying and wild excuse making by Far Right Nut cases can refute or conceal.
Why are more children gunned down in Capitalvania than in all other industrialized countries combined? Again the total lack of tough gun laws in Capitalvania prove it by the horrific numbers slaughtered and on average 1,300 children a year die in rivers of blood and carnage. The Far Right scream,, “Who cares, it did not happen to my kids today”. The word to watch is “today”, not tomorrow, because tomorrow is their turn but they are to damn stupid to see it coming.
Remember 3D is not unique to Capitalvania and other nations with tough laws do not have nut cases shooting 3D made weapons proving the 3D bullshit is myth as the average idiot is not capable of making weapons that work well with 3D in Capitalvania or in other countries. Show me the 3D machine gun or assault rifle in a mass murder anywhere. Surely the nut cases in foreign countries with tough gun laws would have done so by now if it was so easy to do it with 3D.
Why did the bar room full of people attacked by nut case terrorists by London Bridge NOT all die in seconds like they would have in Capitalvania? Answer: Tough gun laws that denied them even shotguns that they tried to previously buy so they used knives and the bar room patrons beat the shit out of them with chairs and broken beer bottles. In Capitalvania all the patrons would have died in a sea of blood and carnage in seconds by assault rifles bought on the used gun market. Proof again that British gun laws worked that day and worked well.
Try looking up the gun laws for the Czech Republic (long a bane of the EU) and the total number of gun deaths (fewer than 260 every years for decades). Health exam, proficiency test, and good to go, including concealed carry.
“Health exam, proficiency test, and good to go, including concealed carry“
My position exactly, I completely concur with that system.
The health exam would include a psychological test as well as no medical history of mental illness, proficiency testing including both written exam on rights and obligations as well as proficiency demonstration on a live fire range.
See, I knew we could agree on something.
You apparently didn’t realize no one was agreeing with you.
You two idiots (lil d and 49r) would fail any Pshrink’s test and end up in a rubber room.
Shit, try looking up the gun laws of Vermont for the past 250 years, and their problems with dumbass shootings.
Most of our “dumbazz” shootings are committed by all the denizens of the Bronx, who decided we had the perfect environment for their hobbies!up till the time we were “discovered” we had the least number of gun laws and number of shootings in the country!
A Muslim terrorist with a rental truck murdered 86 people, and injured 435…..in 5 minutes….more killed than in any mass public shooting in the U.S. including Las Vegas. The weapon of choice for European criminals is the fully automatic military rifles and grenades…in France, Sweden and other European countries……we have over 330 million people in this country…in 2019, we had a total of 10 mass public shootings…..10…..out of 330 million people…..600 million guns in private hands, over 21.5 million Americans can can carry guns in public for self defense…..10 people used guns illegally for mass public shootings…..how many people were killed in those 10 mass public shootings? 73….each year deer kill 200 people….lawn mowers kill between 90-100 people, ladders kill 300 people, bathtubs kill 350…..trying to use mass public shootings as an excuse to ban guns is ridiculous……..
quote————-A Muslim terrorist with a rental truck murdered 86 people, and injured 435…..in 5 minutes….more killed than in any mass public shooting in the U.S. including Las Vegas. The weapon of choice for European criminals is the fully automatic military rifles and grenades…in France, Sweden and other European countries————quote
More Far Right distortions of what actually happened. The night club mass murders in France took place by Terrorists trained and armed in a Middle East Country. No local gun law can prevent a foreign nation making war on France. Since then hundreds of mass murders have occurred in Capitalvania U.S.A and none were sponsored by a foreign government. France had an excuse while we had none.
France made vast improvements when mentally deranged people used vehicles to commit mass murder by erecting barricades during large gatherings of people during holidays. And in the U.S. we too have had mass murder by vehicles and made a few half baked attempts at erecting blockades at some large gatherings. Some have been successful and in other instances when barricades were not erected the mentally ill people struck again. Vehicles are not like guns anyway as it is impossible to ban all trucks and cars as they are necessary in a modern society, unlimited access to second hand guns and assault rifles are not. Vetting and restrictions are desirable and very necessary to keep weapons of war and mass destruction out of the hands of criminals and lunatics. Most other nations have done it and so can we if we want to.
quote————–trying to use mass public shootings as an excuse to ban guns is ridiculous……..———–quote
No its insanity not to do anything about them especially when other nations have and been far more successful than we have because they did something about the problem and we have done nothing and mass murders every week prove it, now that is pure insanity.
folks, dacian always has an explanation for why murders in other countries happen more than they do in the U.S. – he never addresses that other countries changed their reporting to not report in stats certain classes of crimes and murders which far outnumber those same crimes in U.S. stats – anything he can do to make the U.S. look bad he will do, its the way of the racists lying Nazi he is. Don’t even bother to discuss anything with him.
for example; Its not enough it was a Muslim terrorist with a rental truck murdered 86 people, and injured 435…..in 5 minutes – but nope, it does not count in dacians twisted view ’cause “More Far Right distortions of what actually happened. The night club mass murders in France took place by Terrorists trained and armed in a Middle East Country. No local gun law can prevent a foreign nation making war on France.”
dacian once again excuses terrorist (murderess) for their actions.
a terriorist, but suddenly it doesn’t ‘count’ in dacians twisted sick view because it was a terrorit trained in the middle east
dacian is so full of s***, it regularly spills out onto these comment sections. He seldom, if ever, says anything true, and NEVER says anything intelligent.
And, no, dacian the stupid, “hundreds of mass shootings” or “mass murders every week” – unless you use total bulls*** definitions of “mass shootings” and “mass murders” – which, of course, you do.
Go peddle your lies elsewhere, dacian the stupid.
dacian the stupid,
The incident to which .40 cal was referring is a well-known terrorist attack where a MUSLIM terrorist used a truck, drove onto a crowded pedestrian walkway and murdered and injured more people than Paddock. Using a truck. Even an ignoramus like you should be aware of the incident. So, your little witless rant about “armed invasions” is nonsense. And sounds pretty frickin’ bigoted, by the way.
Go burn a cross, you KKK wannabe.
Dodo, if it is so important to you to “do something”, why don’t you work on outlawing murder? That will result in precisely the same decrease in murders as outlawing guns, and I mean PRECISELY, since criminals will not obey either law. Which makes your entire argument completely idiotic, which is why people keep calling you an idiot. Just thought you’d like to know.
The British police have stated publicly that they can’t stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain…..the immigrant drug gangs in Britain are more violent than before, and do not respect British laws or police……Another fact….over 27 years, from 1993 to 2015, as millions of Americans bought and even started to carry guns what happened to the gun murder rate? It went down 49%….gun crime went down 75%……….So no, access to guns does not increase gun murder or gun crime…..Pew did that research…….27 years of increasing gun ownership and gun murder and crime went down, not up……you don’t understand the issues, you don’t know the facts, the truth or the reality…..
quote—————in 2019, we had a total of 10 mass public shootings…..10…..out of 330 million people…———-quote
Peddle you Far Right bullshitting lies to the unwashed.
There were more mass shootings across the U.S. in 2019 than there were days in the year, according to a gun violence research group. 2019 had the highest number of mass shootings in any year since the research group started keeping track.
By the end of 2019, there were 417 mass shootings in the U.S., according to data from the nonprofit Gun Violence Archive (GVA), which tracks every mass shooting in the country. Thirty-one of those shootings were mass murders.
quote————.27 years of increasing gun ownership and gun murder and crime went down, not up———-quote
Pure bullshit. Mass Murders since Columbine in 1999, 23 years ago have increased in scope and intensity and rapidity in every year since then. They happen now almost weekly and have been doing so since the Obama Presidency. Obama called it the new horrific normal.
Crime Has Declined Overall During The Pandemic, But Shootings And Killings Are Up
Gun toting Far Right Jackbooted storm troopers (Proud Boys) with racist Nazi candle light parades culminating under Trump in the all out assault on the Capitol came close to establishing a Trump Dictatorship and a one party Far Right Jack Booted government. Free Speech would have been immediately outlawed as well which is the hall mark of the Far Right Dictatorships.
The Country is at the point of political collapse with corruption at an all time high and Republicans carrying the Far Right lies the election was stolen despite every vote re-count proving Trump was a liar and being supported by corrupt lying sycophant Republican Authoritarian demagogues in Congress.
Increasingly an alarmed Public view weapons of war being used to intimidate people and public officials and our government by the Far Right the greatest threat to our country’s freedom and democracy in its entire history.
And they used a bullshit definition of “mass shootings” that is accepted by NO ONE except their own BS propaganda organization, and a few other similar hoplophobic nitwits (like your own pathetic self). Eff off with your lies and BS.
Most of the folks here are “washed” so GO AWAY.
“…all out assault on the capitol…” will certainly be the most amusing thing that i will read today.
Where were all those gun totting storm troopers on Jan 6 again? Surely you bullet riddled bodies of Capitol Police? Or maybe just pictures? Oh wait you don’t because your just some copy paste bot taking orders.
“over 27 years, from 1993 to 2015 … ” Ah, yes, 1993! that would be 19 years after 1974, right? What might have begun changing 19 years after 1974 which could account for a turnaround in criminal activity for the next 27 years?
Dacian. Everything you post is refutable
Dacian, your hero Hitler killed over 6 million with a closed room and a gas. Guns and violence stopped him from murdering more.
Ok Karen 👌
If that day ever comes, I am well equipped with weapons. I’d have to acquire some armor, a good helm, and maybe a nice shield and a spear to be ready for intruders. Although a war hammer might be nice too.
Try a disk mace. May be good for CQB.
Have a barong, baat jaam dou, and luk dim boon gwan, and know how to properly employ them on a high level. That count?
Still choose a fyrearm first where applicable.
how do you look in it? dressed to kill?
Besides “edged weapons” the ubiquitous and unpretentious carpenter’s hammer racks up an impressive body count each year on it’s own….
You could even go the extra mile and pretend that firearms no longer exist and can never exist again. It’s common sense that deranged criminals would then resort to using blunt/edged weapons on innocent people whose chances of survival would then be dependent on how good they were at playing Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles when they were kids.
Violence is a survival trait. Without violence, the human race would not have survived its birth in Africa. Violence obtains meat, protects crops and families, acquires new territories to increase the tribe….Today it is the same on just a grander scale. We can talk about the seven deadly sins–and they are descriptive of the true innate human condition. Yes many are peaceful and kind, but given sufficient motivation, any and all of us can be, in the Christian ethos, sinners. It is built into our genes. Remove one weapon, we will invent another, even if it is nothing more than a big stone tied to a stick, or a sharp stone that will cut or tip an arrow. We have been doing this for hundreds of thousands of yeas; and to suggest that disarming us will change our innate traits is dangerously naive.
Well stated Mark. I’d guess you have an interest in cultural anthropology, as do I.
Correct Mark. Controlling one’s speech(n-word, f-word etc) only controls vocabulary and does nothing to change one’s view, opinion.
We had a time without guns. We called it the Early Middle Ages. It sucked for everyone. You may know it as “the dark ages”.
‘We forbade them weapons, and they soon began to fashion their own. ‘ – Star Trek 5
Unless someone can just magically make gun powder suddenly not be a thing you’ll always have people fabricating their own weapons. Contrary to what certain Share-Blue shills say here in the comments there really is no way to ‘stop the signal’.
And in other news….A California appeals court has upheld the firings of two Los Angeles Police Department officers who failed to respond to a robbery in progress and instead went searching for a Snorlax in the Pokémon Go augmented reality game.
So much for calling 911.
But in a world with guns we can reduce ‘dacians’ which would cause a reduction in violence and crime due to the reduction of there influence in causing said violence and crime.
In a long and convoluted discussion I did find an agreement point with a sociology student, without guns people tend towards being property.
And if only the progtards would move back to Moscow.
As I have said before the police should be disarmed. And only issued night sticks. And this video is very timely. Here is the future of law enforcement.
Machete v Baton, video 4 min long
That’s just stupid. Those cops had guns, should have tried disarming him after 3 or 4 rounds to the head and torso.
I agree. Perhaps the “Ferguson Effect” is being exported to other countries?