Turkish firearms have long been popular, lower cost options for lots of gun buyers. Among the leaders in the Turkish gun making industry is Tisas. The company was founded in 1993 and they’ve have earned a good reputation for affordable and businesslike firearms based on proven designs.
There are a lot of CZ-75 and 1911 clones in the world. Tisas manufactures a well turned-out Browning High Power clone. The Zigana PX-9 is a close copy of the Springfield XD with some important differences. The pistol loads, operates, fires and feeds like the Springfield XD and anyone familiar with one will be able to use the other…to a point.
The PX-9 9mm resembles the XD a great deal — they fit the same holsters — but the design on the left face of the slide is more similar to FN pistols.
The PX-9 features am ambidextrous manual frame safety and dispenses with the grip safety many Springfields are famous for. There’s not trigger safety blade, either. These measures are almost surely contribute to the pistol’s low cost.
At most outlets the Zigana PX-9 retails for $299. An internet search found examples as low as $279. At that price the pistol’s worth a hard look. The pistol has been vetted in at least one institutional trail. Over six thousand have been ordered by the Philippine National Police.
The PX-9 features the same easy take down as the Springfield XD. Rotate a lever and the slide may be removed from the frame.
The pistol is a single action design and the trigger pull is heavy by most standards at 7.25 pounds. The initial press meets a wall and then breaks fairly cleanly.
When the pistol is cocked the striker is visible from a small hole in the rear of the slide. The sights are very good examples of standard combat sights. The serrated rear sight is open enough for rapid acquisition and the front post is highly visible.
A surprise on the PX-9 is a tritium insert in the front sight. That’ is a very nice touch on a pistol in this price range.
The ambidextrous safety lever is a bit stiff moving to the ‘on’ position but a quick swipe of the thumb easily disengages it when you need it. It’s tight enough to be trustworthy. Ambi safety levers are subject to rubbing on seatbelts and clothing. This one doesn’t. It’s nicely recessed, just enough to avoid snagging while leaving it easily available for your thumb when needed
The pistol ships with two magazines, a speed loader, and a paddle holster. The paddle-style retention holster (plastic rather than Kydex) offers excellent adjustment, practically 360 degrees worth. It features a locking component that must be released to draw the handgun. With a bit of practice the draw isn’t difficult, but be sure that you do plenty of reps at the range. The holster, even if only used as a range holster, is a another nice touch in a $299 pistol.
It’s also worth noting that the Zigana PX-9 will take SIG P226 magazines so getting more mags — you can never have enough — won’t be difficult.
I lubricated the long bearing surfaces and barrel hood before firing. I loaded the two magazines with fifteen rounds each of Federal Syntech. The factory magazines were stiff to load when it came to the last three or round cartridges, a good thing. The pistol was fired at man-sized targets at 5, 7, and 10 yards.
The PX-9 never failed to feed, chamber, fire or eject. It’s remarkably comfortable to fire even for a 27-ounce (empty) 9mm. The pistol fired a couple of inches low when I went too fast on the trigger. The supplied grip insert is large and round, perhaps better results would be realized by changing the grip insert. By consciously correcting the grip I was able to put rounds into the X ring on demand.
I also used several all-copper loads from Lehigh Defense. Recoil was lighter, especially with the 90 grain 1250 fps load. After firing two hundred rounds I had no need to rub my wrist. The experience was very pleasant.
I settled down and fired the pistol for absolute accuracy. I used the Bullshooter’s shooting rest. A 7.25 pound trigger is less than ideal for long range accuracy. I had previously made a number of fast chest hits at 25 yards so I expected to stay on the target at least.
I used three loads and fired three shot groups with each. These were the LeHigh Defense 105 Fracturing Hollowpoint, the Federal 115 grain Syntech, and the Hornady 115 grain Critical defense. I took my time and took every advantage I could. The five-shot groups were around four inches, with the Syntech at 4.2 inches and the Critical Defense a slightly tighter 3.7 inch- little difference statistically. During the next range session I added a +P load. The Black Hills Ammunition 115 grain TAC +P averages 1160 fps with its all copper bullet. I
ran a magazine through the pistol with good results firing at 15 yards off hand. I also had on hand the Syntech Defense 138 grain 1070 fps load. A full magazine ran just fine.
The Zigana PX-9 has ran really well with a broad range of bullet weights. That’s pretty much all you can ask in a duty size semi-automatic handgun. The PX-9 isn’t a tackdriver — not with that pull weight — but it isn’t a water hose either.
For the price the PX-9 is a very capable defensive firearm and a good, affordable choice in a home defense pistol. It handles quickly, is reliable and features a tritium front sight as well as an accessory rail. In times when good guns are increasingly expensive or can’t be found at any price, the Tisas PX 9 is a very good buy.
Specifications: Tisas Zigana PX-9 Pistol
Caliber: 9mm Luger
Action Type: Single Action Locked Breech
Safety: Ambidextrous manual frame safety
Magazine Capacity: 15 rounds
Sights: Fixed, Tritum front sight
Barrel Length: 4 inches
Weight: 27 ounces
MSRP: $299 (about $280 retail)
Ratings (out of five stars):
Reliability * * * * *
No problems at all with either range or personal defense rounds after hundreds of pulls of the trigger.
Accuracy * * *
With the PX-9’s heavy pull weight trigger, accuracy is average. It’s minute of bad guy and will put all the bullets center mass at seven yards. But not as accurate as CZ 75 or even a GLOCK.
Ergonomics * * * *
Overall good. The grip frame is perhaps a bit large for the 15-round capacity. Trigger reach is easy for the average size hand.
Concealed Carry * * * *
With a proper holster (and XD holsters are plentiful) the PX-9 — which is slightly smaller than a GLOCK 19 — carries well.
Overall * * * *
This a remarkably good pistol for the money. The reliable Tisas Zigana PX-9 packs 15+1, takes P226 magazines, fits in XD holsters and costs under $300. That’s an attractive combination.
Besides Turkish coffee, i would not by anything else with the name “Turkish” on it?
Turkish Taffy tastes pretty good, but it will pull the fillings right out of one’s teeth.
I was chewing on some taffy about 6 months ago and it removed a gold crown. When asked by the dentist how it came off I said taffy and he laughed. Then stated they used a similar substance to remove crowns.
oof. i had a gold crown come off twice because of taffy like foods. in fairness, i waited so long to get it in the first place there was very little tooth left to adhere too. the third time appears to have been the charm though.
the first time it happened, i didn’t want to deal with the waiting and a numb lip all day so i just had them put it back on without anything. biggest mistake of my life….granted it was only for about 10s til i adjusted but the pain..oooooo
Eh even if you have a good tooth for it to stick to they seem to come loose every 10-15 years
The Turkish guns are really not that bad. You have to remember that the US is not a pinnacle of quality craftsmanship in guns either I might add with brands such as Lorcin, Cobra, Jennings, Bryco, Hi-point, and IOInc AKs. So just because you have a gun made in the USA, doesn’t mean it is a good gun unfortunately. It could be a colossal pile of shit.
The canik P-120 is a really nice gun made in Turkey. The Tristar CZ clones are nice guns made in turkey. And I personally have the Tisas Zigana CS9 which is a decent gun (little ugly), and is accurate with a very nice trigger.
Well said, I have a Zigana and it shoots better than my Smith & Wesson, An A Canik PT 9-mm Shoots just as Good!
Agree with you on that one, have sent over 450 rounds of cheap ammo without failures. Quite accurate, and accessories are available. I don’t care if the gun is made on Turkey or Mars as long as it goes bang when needed. No need to spend a fortune to be well protected.
only stupid turks buy Turkish shit
nothing under 1000 dollars is not American made not worth buying
smart people buy American made quality products
buying anything beyond American made is plain stupid
smart people buy American stuff
Make American Great Again
Did you have a stroke writing this?
I agree. I wanted top quality – so I bought American made and now I am the proud owner of a US made cobra 380 pistol. Top quality! I was thinking about a Jennings or bryco next.
@Anonymous – I’ve found the quality of Cobra products to be hit and miss, especially the derringers that are chambered for rimless cartridges (.32 ACP, .380 ACP, and 9mm). Their customer service leaves a lot to be desired, too. Bond Arms, American Derringer, and the long discontinued High Standard are much better quality.
You can find Jennings and Bryco brands on the used market but they haven’t been made for years. The current successor to Jennings is Jimenez and is pretty good.
Austrian and German far better
@maga – I’ve used far too many thousand dollar, American made pistols that were definitely not worth the money. I’ve known quite a few Kimber owners who had to send their handguns back to the factory at least three times before the pistol functioned properly. A high price tag is not an indicator of high quality.
Buying American is a good idea, whenever possible, especially if that product works for you and fits your budget.
You aint as smart as you thunk you is.
You hit that nail on the head.
Are Turkish roll pins more durable than Croation roll pins?
Man all these cool gats coming from the Caliphate. Hard pass. Oh and whatever prices posted are BS. Check out Gunbroker auctions & the insane prices crap is sellin for!!!
Very true that. I follow all the auction sites , keeping up with the current price ranges. I have about 10 on my mental list I’m always looking for to add. Kinda a bucket list of firearms. Turk shotty like a Tristar is one of them.
And the ammo hoarders are back at it too, probably still working on diminishing their supply from after Sandy Hook..these guys tick me off but that’s Capitalism and way, way better than anything other system.
Sooo, it’s a budget-price knock-off, of an overpriced knock-off, of a budget-priced gun.
Aight, cool I guess?
Well written review. No reflection on the author, but really? Another plastic 9mm. That’s exactly what we need. How about interesting articles about interesting firearms?
“Another plastic 9mm.”
Another plastic striker-fired 9mm.
How can it be a Browning Hi-Power clone with no hammer?
“How about interesting articles about interesting firearms?”
Gadsen, I’m willing to bet you have a few interesting guns in your gun safe, and likely a few interesting stories from your experiences, over the years.
How about writing them up and submitting them to Dan Z? I’d enjoy reading them.
Be a part of making TTAG interesting…
(That goes for the rest of you, as well… 🙂 )
Geoff, I’ve thought of doing exactly that. But, I catch a large ration of shit already over just my comments. Never mind an article. Not worried about me. My feelings can’t be hurt. (Have to have feelings first.) However, I might send some readers into fits of rage resulting in burst capillaries and fits of hysteria. BTW my favorite 9mm is my Novak built Hi-Power followed closely by my factory hard chrome HK P7M8. Both more interesting than a Turkish Tubberware pistol.
“However, I might send some readers into fits of rage resulting in burst capillaries and fits of hysteria.”
Depending on who gets caught up in that it may not be such a bad thing GF. 🙂
Support Islamic Terror buy junk guns from Turkey.
The United States sells more guns to terrorists thab any other group. Stop paying taxes if you want to stop supporting terrorism
You think that billion dollar Saudi arms deal isnt going to be distributed to terrorists?
We don’t realistically have a choice in paying our taxes.
We do have a choice in spending our disposable income.
No to Turkey. The country has turned away from Democracy and the civilized Western nations. It is a wonder that under the current dictator they are still aligned with NATO, though that connection looks thinner all the time.
Buy American, or support your anti-American support by wearing the flags of the nations you care more about than your own.
C’mon. Where else are you gonna buy a fez for the Shriners’ parade?
But President Biden-Harris love the Turks and Iran. They need Turkish and Iranian support to finish off the Jews.
You mean the Jews who are funding them and voting for them, or the small minority of the Jewish community who actually believe in liberty?
Lol America actively arms terrorists.
How many guns did Trump sell to the Saudis, you know the guys behind 9/11?
I would definitely only buy American and according to my conscience if I had unlimited means. I didn’t (knowingly) buy anything made in China since at least 1990–and refused to even have a cell phone b/c of not only Chinese manufacturing, but of the cobalt, coltan, etc and the ethics involved in obtaining these type minerals. But then I was faced with a choice during the 2008ish recession–my boss told me get a cell phone if I wanted to keep my job–he needed to be able to reach me. The economy + the small town I lived in gave me few choices to “get another job”. I was newly widowed, renting a tiny room, and barely keeping my car in gas and my chihuahua fed. So I got the damn phone because of a higher priority than not supporting commie Chinese death camp lords–keeping my dog fed and myself from being homeless/jobless. I am SO far past this economic situation, but still have a dilemma. I live in the ppl’s republic of California, gun/ammo control is out of control here, people are hoarding, violence is brewing, I am not about to be homeless but resources are definitely limited. I don’t have anywhere near $1000 to spend on a gun that is made in US and may/may not have an ethical supply chain. Do I go without a gun? Or get a $300 Turkish gun (still off-roster in CA..but hey, those laws are illegal) to make sure I can protect myself and my cat if dumbass violence-mongers and brain-dead protestors get violent after Trump gets elected? If I can afford an Israeli gun and bought it (my preference), some anti-semitic prick will criticize for that. If I get some version of a Makarov, I’m sure some will feel that’s unethical. But again, some are affordable milsurp, and shippable into CA. Do I want to support the Caliphate/Erdogan and their ilk? of course not. But I want to have the ability to defend myself if needed–and if the only way to do it is to purchase a gun that benefits a company from an anti-freedom country, I will do it. If I’m dead it won’t matter whose government I supported. If I stay alive, maybe I can keep earning enough money to purchase 100% with my conscience. if anyone has any other suggestions for an inexpensive, deadly, easily obtainable protection device, I will accept all suggestions. Or any suggestions on where the hell to get an adequate (large) supply of 9 x 18 Silver Bear 94 gr Makarov ammo, comment below. B/c in addition to the Zigana PX-9, I can actually afford to get a CZ-82 if prices don’t keep going up so fast
How about a Hi-Point. They’re ugly, but they work and are affordable (cheap). And, they’re American made, so you don’t have to support the Turks.
You have a lot of “issues”
@laffing dukk – The CZ-82 is an excellent choice for personal/home defense handgun. Pretty good range gun, too, as the recoil is mild and highly manageable. I have the CZ-83 (Czech police surplus version of the Czech military surplus CZ-82) in .380 ACP and love it. It fits the hand much like a Browning HiPower, easily carried, and follow-up shots are quick. The size is a bit more than a compact but not a full-size.
The CZ82/83 is what I call a garbage mouth, as it will feed, fire, and extract just about any brand or load of appropriate ammunition you can put through it. It doesn’t matter if you use steel or brass cases. The only difference in loads are the group sizes. I use PMC Bronze FMJs for practice and Hornady Critical Defense for defense. (I can use any FMJ I want but the PMC is what my Jimenez JA380 prefers, as it is a finicky eater.)
The biggest problem with the CZ82/83 is acquiring additional magazines. There are numerous vendors selling what they call “CZ factory magazines” that have a welded seam on the front and rear of the mag body but they are not. They may be made in a factory for the 82/83 but they are not made by CZ. These mags don’t always work. I purchased six of them and every one of them had fit problems. Only one fully seated but would not eject. I had to use a screwdriver to get enough purchase with my fingers on the mag base to remove it from the pistol. Needless to say, I returned them.
Actual CZ made magazines are currently very hard to find, are extremely expensive and run an average of $100 each when you do locate them. (It’s too bad that Mec-Gar doesn’t produce an aftermarket mag for the 82/83 like they do for other pistols.)
J&G Sales, an online vendor, has both the 82 ($300 w/chipped grip) and the 83 ($370-$420, depending on condition) in stock.
The company also has the Star BM in stock. It is a Commander sized 8-shot, single stack 9mm with an all steel frame and slide. Price for these is $300. Additional magazines are available at about $30 each. You can buy up to three mags at $20 each if you get them at the same time as you purchase the pistol.
If a revolver is an acceptable choice for you, J&G also has some police surplus Smith & Wesson Model 10’s in .38 Spl with a 4″ barrel for sale at $380.
Classic Firearms has the Zigana PX-9 for sale at $330. A nice advantage is the fact that the PX-9 was designed to use SiG P226 magazines, which are widely available. (Mec-Gar does produce an aftermarket P226 mag at a reasonable price.)
Finding supplies of ammunition, in any caliber, is kinda hit-and-miss. All you can do is conduct frequent internet searches of the various online ammunition vendors to see what they have and at what price. Of course, being as you are in California, you will have to find a licensed FFL who is willing to receive your ammo order.
Another semiauto pistol you might consider is the Makarov, in 9×18 Mak or .380.
If revolvers are acceptable to you, Rossi and Taurus still make a more or less affordable product patterned after the Smith & Wesson medium and small framed models. (Used prices are typically more budget friendly, too.) Armscor puts out a decent 6-shot based on the old Colt medium frame.
As TTAG mentioned, the Hi-Point is also a good choice. It may be a bit unsightly and feel bulky but they are reliable, accurate, and can use steel or brass cased ammo. (The owner of Hi-Point Firearms is also the owner of MKS Supply which imports Barnaul Ammunition, the parent company of Silver Bear. He shoots Barnaul out of his personal pistols all the time.)
Chihuahuas are great companions and will keep you active. All the ones I’ve had or known loved their walks.
My condolences on the passing of your wife.
All the best to you and I hope at least one of my suggestions is on the CA-DOJ list of approved makes/models.
Or just take a drive to Arizona where they don’t ID for ammo sales
Good lord! Just reading your post had me question whether life is worth living. That poor dog…..
My Zig PX9 has a better trigger than my Croatian made Springfield XDS. Caniks are excellent pistols and I would trust my life with any of the models I own.
a turkish product or buy a springfeild product ?
What’s the difference!? LOL
One is made in turkey and supports terrorism. One is made in Croatia and supports gun control.
I am all for more options for the consumer but when it comes to auto loading pistols I recommend to anyone that asks to look at Ruger or Smith and Wesson SD9VE for a lower priced double stack striker fired pistol. Getting parts or service for some of these imports can be a nightmare.
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about the Ruger Security 9 or maybe a Taurus G3. They both seem like solid choices in the same price range. Plus they’re American made. Plus, as you said, if I did need replacement parts, they’re be readily available.
I have an older sw40ve, trigger basically sucks but hasn’t ever failed in any way. Plastic sights are kinda cheesy. 14+1 Got it in a trade. Makes a great truck/ trunk gun. I trust it completely. Would recommend it.
Fix that trigger. Doesn’t cost too much.
Thanks for the link. I’ve been thinking about that but it’s kinda a back burner thing, been spending on mags and ammo and stocking up on other stuff. But now that prices are outa sight that’s probably a good thing to spend a few bucks on.
My wife has finally agreed to own and carry a gun. She is small and cannot rack a pistol. So thinking of a revolver. She could not handle the recoil from a 9mm.
I am even concerned about the recoil from a 380. So, thinking of starting her off with a 22LR revolver.
She has had a long history of serious health issues, so we need to make it easy and go slowly.
Looking at Rugers. Any other suggestions?
Current manufacturers/makes of new double-action .22 revolvers I can quickly think of…
Various Smith & Wesson
Double action .22 revolvers tend to have a heavy DA trigger pull (because of rimfire). I just changed the hammer spring in a Ruger SP101, but I’ve yet to see if I actually got away with it.
I think you mean the Charter Arms Pathfinder, I was all excited for a minute that NAA was making a double action mini revolver.
You’re correct and I apologize. That’s what I get for ‘thinking’ & ‘typing’ at the same time.
Trigger pull on rimfire DA revolvers is generally heavier than centerfire models. It’s intentional, to help ensure reliable ignition. Since you can’t dry-fire them, highly recommend renting or borrowing one first to shoot it and see if the trigger will work for her. Dry-firing a centerfire version will not be a fair comparison since those have slightly lighter triggers.
If recoil and hand strength are the issue, some recommendations:
S&W Shield EZ (.380)
Ruger SR22 (.22LR)
Ruger LCR (.357Mag model for the heavier weight, then load the softest .38Spec SWCs you can find)
Beretta Bobcat/Tomcat (.22LR/.25ACP/.32ACP) – Don’t need to rack the slide to load it
An oddball: NAA Black Widow (.22LR). The limitation is cocking the SA hammer. If she can do that, the rest is easy. The triggers are tiny but not very heavy. The Black Widow model (and Mini-Master, longer barrel) have great sights. Recoil is negligible in .22LR. Stowing the hammer in the safety notches between rounds keeps it very safe in a pocket or purse, though a tiny holster always adds security.
Ah! I had not thought about the trigger pull. Good point! Absolutely need to test that.
I like the Berretta; the light-up barrel will make it easy for her. Going to look at the Black Widow, also.
Deeply appreciate your thoughtfulness!
Beretta Bobcat .32 has absolutely the worst recoil I have encountered in a long time! After thinking about that it’s a straight Blowback, my Kel-Tec.32 is a locked breech. World of difference.
Life, if she has a hard time racking a slide she may also have trouble with a DA trigger. Setting that aside, I would look for a vintage S&W Kit Gun. 2″. They come dear, but deals can be found. I recently brokered a deal where Randy sold one to Chris (both friends of mine) for $400.
The trigger could be an issue. I had not heard of the S&W Kit gun, but will definitely look into it.
Thank you for taking the time to advise!
Life! Never heard of a S&W Kit
Gun? Blasphemy! A beautiful piece of the handgun art. Built on the J frame. .22 LR. 2-4″ barrel. A 4″ round butt has rode in my hunt pack for decades. It has administered the occasional mercy shot, put small game in the pot, dispatched the odd eastern diamondback and sorted out a few nest raiders. No serious firearms battery is complete without one.
As has been stated .22s are problematic because of the trigger pull. If recoil is a problem and working the slide is a problem find one of the new revolvers chambered in .327. If that is too much the same revolver will work with .32 S&W Long. It’s a pussycat of a round.
If you can find one of the old S&W revolvers chambered in the .32 round you can have a decent option. I believe they’re called I frames.
.327, .32. Had not considered those. Thank you for widening my view!
Gonna get the woman shootin’, somehow, someway.
I appreciate the guidance!
I forgot about the very LCR I carry in my pocket: a 327. Capacity is bumped up to 6 (vs 5 in 38/357), it’s the same weight as the 357, and .32S&W Long loads are extremely mild (softer than the softest 38’s).
LG has a great article on the .32 family of cartridges:
I plink with Longs, occasionally burn a box of H&R Mag for fun, train a little with 327, and carry Underwood 327 loads. It’s an immensely versatile revolver.
The factory LCR boot grips are pretty good, but I bought these for a full grip and like them a lot more:
You can find .32 speed strips for reloads as well.
If you’re okay with the recoil, the Speer Gold Dot 327 round looks to be extremely effective, even out of a short barrel.
Double action 22lr revolvers all notoriously have crappy triggers, and single actions are not most peoples’ choice for conceal carry. You might try looking at the ruger lcr in 327 with the intent to use 32 s&w longs (pricey ammo but with plenty of factory wadcutters available). The other thing might be a steel framed 380 or 32 acp but again 380 isn’t cheap AT ALL!
The Ruger SR22 is a good choice. Reliable, able to mount a light etc. We have 3 in the family
Have you checked out the Smith and Wesson M&P .380 EZ? My wife is rather small framed as well, and she handles it well. Very easy racking and the mags have a built-in thumb tab that helps with loading. I’m looking for a 9mm version now for myself.
Get a decent sized 38 spc revolver, they have very little recoil
I’d rather own a Hi Point.
Oh yeah, I already do.
Better than buying from Springfield!
Yeah,thanks but No Thanks.
Lotta inbred, xenophobic hicks on this thread.
Guess I know what my next gat purchase is going to be.
Yeah, that’ll show ’em.
No, but it’ll make me smile when I get a good deal on a new pistol and a bunch of inbred, xenophobic hicks didn’t.
So, there’s that.
There is something about sending money to a company in a Country that is turning against the west. Just like all the money sent to China. Doesn’t seem proper to support those who would rather we were gone.
Go ahead and support them. At least we know where your loyalties are.
Great article with standard info. Was wondering about switching rear sights and compatibility ..some say m&p 2.0 sights fit some say xdm…I don’t want to risk purchasing one that doesn’t fit. Stupid they added a glow front sight yet rear is blank but the 2nd gen has rear glows..🤷♂️ I’d like a nice type up of ALL accessories if anybody knows that fit the px9 ..please follow up with compatibility for the sights ..
First. I don’t think you own a gun. And second. Why do you feel the need to bring your family history into it?
44 gats, currently.
And your “insult” was a piss poor effort. Try harder or don’t try at all, son.
You’re that guy, aren’t you? You can dish them out but you get butt hurt if somebody dishes back.
I still think you don’t own a single one.
44? Well, everyone has to start somewhere.
If you own 4 dozen guns then what exactly is with your attitude?
He doesn’t own 4 dozen guns and the attitude is general issue to trolls.
44 isn’t “four dozen”, rocket surgeon. Four short. Math much?
Oh, and as for “my attitude”—phony conservatives who suck cop nuts all day every day and twice on Sunday are repulsive, and I make my opinion known.
There’s no racism and xenophobia in true conservatism. I let that be known, too.
Freedom of speech really pisses you “constitutional conservatives” off, doesn’t it?
If people can get past their issues with Turkey’s leadership and religion the guns made there very good.
Funny how guns from Russia and other oppressive countries don’t get the same treatment.
Russians aren’t as “swarthy” as Turks, don’t you know.
You know how I recognize idiot in a crowd? He’s the one who starts to yell “raceeees!” no matter what is discussed.
and Italians, Japanese (who make some good stuff from Browning)
If a gun manufacturer makes good firearms then it makes good firearms
We fought both countries at one time, hell we’ve fought just about everybody..
Maybe we are more pissed about Turkey because they used to be much better friends than Russia ever was.
Turkey was a relatively progressive secular democracy for a very long time, and has only recently begun to slide into a sectarian dictatorship.
Russia, not so much. They were certainly secular during the Soviet days, but hardly democratic.
The Turkish government was no one’s friend, ever.
Just ask the Armenians.
I agree that “Friend” was probably not the right word to use. “Reliable ally” is probably more accurate. As in, “Now that Turkey is no longer a “reliable ally”, we shouldn’t be storing nuclear weapons there.
I went to the police academy with an Iraqi Kurd, served America as an interpreter, but yeah I’m sure those turkish guns are great…
My dad served beside some Turks in Korea. Said they really knew how to fight.
Their particularly liked bayonet charges. Always pays you feel sorry for all those Chinese. But not really.
Also knew a guy stationed in Turkey in the Air Force.
He was walking in his uniform one day and walked by the police station. Struck up a conversation of sorts– mostly sign language- and the guys ending up showing him every H K and grenade launcher in the PD
long long time ago
It’s bad enough that Turkey is rapidly becoming a sectarian dictatorship. We are also spending a lot of time, money, and trouble to extricate Turkey from the Joint Strike Fighter program, because they insist on buying anti-aircraft missiles from Russia. We should kick them out of NATO and boycott their asses until they decide to rejoin the family of secular democracies.
A gunm two mags and a holster aint bad for three hundred bucks.
the gun industry really has to stop helping the turks. these people are NOT our friends and every dollar you give them supports them and their faiths goal of a global caliphate.
if youre going to advocate for something Turkish then lets advocate retaking Constantinople and stopping the spread of the “religion of peace”
Ill pass on funding another erdogan and his islamic buddies.
Nice review on a interesting gun. I don’t let politics interfere with smart human Ingenuity.
Yes, despite my leanings, politics do not dampen my enjoyment when I fire my Panzer Arms AR-12 down the range!
To all the people that say they refuse to buy a gun because its from Turkey, how stupid can you get? The Turks make great weapons, affordable, high quality and decent looking to boot.
The wonderful thing about a competitive marketplace is that we can all make our own choices, for our own reasons, without really missing out on much. Sure, I might pay a little more for a non-Turkish firearm, but it will still go bang when I pull the trigger.
God an option instead of the traitors Springfield Armory and out turns out to be from a genocidal government, that pistol is cursed
the old 22/32 kit guns made in 22lr and also 32S&Wlong ( that’s where the 22/32 comes from) were good guns made on S&Ws “I” frame. and both had very good triggers. then they switched to being made on the “J” frame . still with good triggers. and still very nice guns. later the 22lr versions came out in all aluminum and so on and their triggers got really crappy, supposively to make sure the round goes off. which if the round doesn’t want to go off, the harder hammer strike was supposed to make it go off, and it does not. it only ruins the trigger pull. as far as this gun being reviewed goes, the grip is too big, and needs to be on a version with a longer barrel. and this version should have a shorter grip. not all Turkish people are happy about their government, and their government needs to go back to being a democrocy. but I think their people still have the right to own guns so far.so hate their government, but not all their people. and yes, braindead Joe Biden loves the commie like government that Turkey now has as well as Iran ( but not all the people, the arab spring really started their but the Iranian government fired on the people when they demostated against their government and of course the people did not have guns. which is the utopia Biden is aiming for here).
Well lots of folks need work in Turkey I guess.
There have been times when I would not want to be judged by my government and we all send a lot of bucks one way or the other to the People’s Republic of NY and New Jersey–hell of it is lots of truly good, great people there— somehow they got the shit end of the stick with their government—-
Just a thought.
Another option. Thank you TTAG.
The PX-9 is a solid choice for home defense. I have run about 500 rounds through mine at this point. It does have a heavy trigger pull as stated in the article and does fire a bit low to the left also as stated in the article. This is a good buy for entry level or for home defense. This article is spot on. It is not as accurate as my Glock 48 however, the rear sight is adjustable and I will work with that on the range to resolve the low firing issue. I am comparing to the following, Glock 23 and 48, M&P40, XDs9, Beretta Cheetah in 32ACP and a Colt 1911 MKIV. I have never had a misfeed with any type of ammo. The PX-9 has been around for a number of years. It was released in 2014 with very few changes. Good Solid gun for the money.
Try one out before you talk shit you idiots. I bought one and it’s a great value for the money (I got my on classicfirearms.com for $299 so the idiot who said the price was b.s. is full of that b.s.). It is very accurate using a variety of ammo (I’ve tried 6 so far) and the package is a tremendous value). I have plenty of guns made in the USA and I would put it up against any American made pistol I own. The purpose of any firearm is to hit what you’re aiming at. I learned how to do that very well while serving our country in the Marine Corps and With this pistol I hit where I aim. As far as the guy spouting off about the PX-9 being a browning clone, the author of the article stated the manufacturer makes a gun that is a browning clone he didnt say the PX-9 was a browning clone. Learn to read then maybe you’ll be intelligent enough to criticize another’s writing. All in all The PX-9 is a good firearm with a ready to shoot package at a great value! You’d know that if you owned one. So, if you dont own one or havent fired one, please keep your stupid comments to yourself.
Which concealed holster would
I need to get for the zigana 9
I hear North Korean and Iranian weapons are pretty good too, and quite affordable if you can get your hands on ’em. Sure, their own subjects (aka “citizens” for the pollyannish types) have very little if any access to firearms, but what actually matters here is affordability. If there’s one thing Americans are keen about, it’s getting mediocre things at OUTSTANDING PRICES regardless of:
1. Who it came from
2. What it came from
3. Where it came from
4. Why it came to us
5. How it came to us
The groovy thing about the capitalist faith is that none of these things matter…AT ALL. As long as I get mine at the best bargain price imaginable, who gives a flying frog fart if the people making these cheap widgets wished we never existed…or you know…became deathly ill from some sort of virus or crashing commercial airliner.
We just need to get past such minor, non-transactional details and get on with buying all those neato accessories for all our affordable Turkish-made guns. Yippee Ki Yay!
By the way, does anyone know if Turkey makes American flags? I could use a few more to display on my lawn so the neighbors know just how much I love my country.
Is anyone else having trouble with the slide being hard to pull back? And also the slide release being very stiff?
Taurus tx22 holds 16 shoots very good .
I realize this thread is a bit long in the tooth, but for anyone buying one of these pistols, a Canik magazine will possibly fit. A P226 can run Canik magazines (several videos on YouTube) so they will probably interchange. Might be a good source of mags, as MecGar makes some fine Canik mags. I would suggest seeing if you could borrow one before buying one, of course, just to make sure they work.
As for Turkish guns, the Canik is a near copy of the Walther PPQ. I own both the Canik and the PPQ, and they’re both flawless. I also own a Girsan (another Turkish brand) copy of the Beretta 92, and its an exact copy that works just as well as as my 92F. I love the Turkish firearms that I’ve seen.
Sights: Fixed, Tritum front sight
One place I read fixed sights .. another place driftable
and replaceable sights .. would just like a definitive answer ..
All the Turkey bashing from guys who buy Glocks (Hitler’s home country) and Toyotas and Hondas from Japan (Dec. 7, 1941).
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