http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS-6s9JPhY0
The Constitution is a piece of paper. It was written by man for man. You want to change it? There’s an app for that. If 38 out of 50 states vote to ditch the Second Amendment protection of Americans’ right to keep and bear arms, BAM! Gone. Even in the midst of the post-Sandy Hook hysteria that’s about as likely as me scoring a date with the Arielle Arts babe at my daughter’s gym (while sitting next to my second ex-wife). So why would CBS give airtime to someone arguing that the United States Constitution is “antiquated” and irrelevant? Because they’re commie bastards. Next question? What’s in the news today . . .
Jumping the gun? NYSRPA, WCFOA, SAFE and AR15.com file a Notice of Claim against NY’s unconstitutional SAFE Act—before it’s amended.
Michael Bane reckons gun rights advocates should use Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals against the civilian disarmament movement. I reckon we should force them to stare at white on black type for four hours.
AX vs. Ballista vs. TRG M10 vs. Defense’s Modular Sniper Rifle vs. Remedy. Here’s hoping it doesn’t add up to nothing in the end. Gun makers aim at US sniper rifle contract janes.com
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose. Force de Frappe and why we need AR-15s. jfo.org
28 out of 29 Utah Sheriffs agree: firearms freedom is better for their constituents who do guns. usatoday.com
Shouldn’t that be “magazine”? MSNBC Caught Selectively Editing Another Clip This time the Tiffany Network’s spawn makes it look like pro-2a folk heckled the father of one of the Newtown victims. [As above.] theblaze.com
Twice the toll of Newtown in one month. City of Chicago Reaches 40 Homicides in January officer.com
Carl F: “The Hawaii Senate has introduced SB219 which reinstates the 1994 ‘assault weapon’ ban. As I read it. it makes owning any semi-auto illegal (class C felony) and also prevents you from selling it (Class B felony). It makes owners instant criminals with no way out, other than giving it to the cops, who are of course exempt.”
There’s a new kid in town, pistol-wise: TriStar Arms C-100. Four bills and change.
Tomorrow’s another day. David Horsey, columnist, cartoonist (as above) and civilian disarmament proponent for latimes.com asks Do gun absolutists want the right to bear rocket launchers?
Westford, MA wants to have their own gun ban. The town’s attorney’s considered opinion of the plan: The Second Amendment prohibits the prohibition. I guess they shoulda read the fine print. Oh wait; there isn’t any.
i would not @#$% her with your &*%$.
Finally, someone besides Moi uses the “C word”.
Now if we could, once again, resurrect HUAC and out law communists in our schools and government America might have a fighting chance.
And while were at it kick the UN out of America and declare it a Subversive Org.
I live in Hawaii. that ban is bullshit and have been waiting for people on the mainland to bring it up. the first state to propose outright confiscation, despite averaging ONE rifle killing per year the last three years.
Hey RF, heard you today on CBS radio news. Good job, I hope they keep in contact you, they could use somebody who speaks the truth.
Breaking News!
California has decended from the 13th largest economy on the planet to a failed socialist state in 40 years, but don’t worry banning Optimal Capacity Magazines will surely save them!
I hope you folks in Kali have your bug-out bags packed.
BTW my 20 ac. mini farm is for sale for the same price as the average LA home
A 500 box of .22 LR costs roughly $25 give or take a bit (I’ve seen Federal as low as $18 in Portland).
A box of 500 rounds x .05 cents proposed tax = $25.00.
Therefore, California is proposing a tax that will roughly equal or exceed 100% of the price on a 500 round box of .22 LR.
You got most of it right RF, but CBS really stands for COMMIE BASTARDS SUCK.
Actually should read Commie Bastards Swallow & WNCRA “With No Courtesy Reach Around”
The US Constitution “irrelevant”. Commie bastards indeed.
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I find that HB1001 is for something altogether different. I did find that particular bill that this story is about (concealed carry) listed on the Illinois General Assembly website as HB0997.
Hi GTC, You look like an attorney. Good to see you here, Randy
So, Mike the Limey. Just tell me where Hemenway has been discredited. Have you read it yourself? I asked you to lead me to a resource that would support your world view. Instead of actually reviewing the material in a reasonable and rational manner you simply start disparaging it without any basis whatsoever. That is typical of the far right. You must love Fox News!
And you know Mike you are right about who is rational and who is not. People who oppose any gun regulation are people who never let their emotions color their perception of the facts. People who want reasonable gun regulation-like me-well we just cannot separate our emotions from the plain truth. So this is the truth about the gun debate: Every position taken by the NRA and its supporters is fully supported by the facts. The NRA is not subject to the same kinds of distortion of reality that occurs to other institutions and people when a personal interest is being threatened. In fact, if the NRA did a study and determined that no one should be allowed to own a gun you can bet that the NRA, and of course all of its reasonable and rational supporters would support the end of gun ownership. Even the gun and ammo manufacturers would voluntarily shut down because they, unlike reasonable gun regulation people, do what is based on upon what is in the best interest of people in general and the country as a whole.
Now you say I was wrong about where the NRA gets its money. So I did a little research and this is what I found: Gun manufacturers donate to the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action. Since 2005, the organization has received at least $14.8 million from more than 50 firearms-related companies. In 2008, Beretta reached a milestone of $2 million in donations to the NRA, and in 2012, Smith & Wesson reached $1 million. According to an April 2012 press release, Sturm, Ruger & Company raised $1.25 million through a program in which it donated $1 to the NRA’s lobbying branch for each gun it sold from May 2011 to May 2012.
Now that is a lot of money. But I have to admit, a good majority of the money that the NRA uses to bully politicians comes from other sources. Thank you getting me straight on that issue. I will not make that mistake again. What have you learned from me Mike? Anything at all true in anything that I have said or am I completely wrong about everything?? Mike you are a reasonable and rational gun supporter who would never ignore the truth of an opponent’s argument are you not??? I will send you that book by Hemenway for you to read and to make you own conclusions as to its accuracy. But you won’t. Because you are on the side that already knows the truth .
That is an interesting accusation you make about me being afraid of guns. Well, Mike, I am not sitting here with a gun in my hand in fear of someone charging into my home to assault me with a gun. But you and all your gun toting friends are. So who is afraid of guns me or you?? Read what a fellow gun toter says about carrying a gun:
‘What it’s like to carry a gun.’
I went to a Christmas party in upstate, New York on Saturday night and like many other Americans I spent most of the time discussing gun control in America with friends. The evil incident
in Connecticut last Friday has sparked a debate that will not die.
My entire adult life I have been a registered Republican and I have almost always argued from the right. However, when it comes to the subject of handguns possessed and carried by non-law enforcement civilians I just cannot agree with my friends on the right.
I feel that I am as qualified to speak on the subject as anyone else; after all, I have legally owned and carried handguns in New York State for 26 years.
I grew up in New York City, I joined the NYPD at the age of 20 and I have stared down the barrel of a gun several times.
I have been shot at and I have also fired my gun in self-defense, but in the line of duty.
I now carry a New York Carry Pistol Permit as a retired law enforcement officer.
I know what it’s like to carry a gun and not to carry a gun. I have heard arguments and stories of legal gun owners successfully defending their property and their lives, but I have also heard of more tragic stories, like the one last Friday.
Adam Lanza was able to access his mother’s legally owned guns and commit this heinous act.
That is the bottom line. Every legally possessed gun in America cannot be properly secured. There will be guns accessed by children.
I feel that we have to take an honest look at the laws in this country for the sake of our children. Many people want to own and carry guns because it gives them a feeling of power.
Most will not admit this, but it’s true. When someone is carrying a gun, they act differently. They face a situation, sometimes escalating it, instead of avoiding it.
When I fired my gun in 1992 in self-defense, I was off-duty. It was after I ran down two thugs who had just robbed a store in Queens. They turned and tried to shoot me. If I did not have my gun that day, I would have never run after them and they would have gotten away. No one would have fired any guns that day.
On February 26, 2012, Trayvon Martin was shot and killed by George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla. No matter what you believe happened that night, if Zimmerman did not have a gun, Trayvon Martin would be alive today.
As a father, who was heartbroken after hearing about the Connecticut killing of those innocent children, I feel I have to be honest about how I feel, even if it means disagreeing with friends.
New York
I don’t & never have watched Fox News.
I’m sure you are quite aware of all the sources that have shown Hemenway to be a charlatan.
You aren’t interested in “common sense gun control”; you’re after disarming American citizens to the greatest extent possible, despite such a policy failing to address criminal possession of firearms.
Tell me why most firearms felonies committed under existing laws are plea-bargained down to insignificant sentences if this “tough stance” you demand is so important.
How about enforcing the laws already on the books, rather than trying to disarm law-abiding citizens?
I’ll tell you why not: It is because those dead kids don’t really matter all that much to you & your ilk, as they are merely a means to an end: The monopolisation of lethal force by an all powerful central government.
I am not sitting here with a gun in my hand in fear of someone charging into my home to assault me with a gun. But you and all your gun toting friends are. So who is afraid of guns me or you?? Read what a fellow gun toter says about carrying a gun:
That’s really quite amusing as I happen to live in the UK & don’t have that option.
I’ll ignore your “message” for as long as you & the rest of the hoplophobes continue to use derogatory terms such as “gun toters” to describe those who are comfortable with looking after their own safety.
A retired LEO is hardly a good example though, as he & the rest of the retired LEO’s are invariably exempted from legislation aimed at the proletariat.
“The more intelligent among you might notice that the question pre-supposes that guns are the problem and answering the question accepts the premise”
That’s total nonsense and by preceding the wrong idea with “the more intelligent among you,” I’m sure you fooled everybody who already agrees with you.
The question was: “WHAT SHOULD AMERICA DO ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE?”
That doesn’t pre-suppose anything that I can see.
Reminds me of another promise that was quickly repudiated:”The Sudetenland is the last bit of territory I will demand in Europe!”
I always teach my students the three biggest lies:
“I promise I’ll respect you in the morning.”
“The check’s in the mail.”
“Hi! We’re from the government and we’re here to help!”
Way back in 1969 we put Americans on the moon. Why can’t we put Pearce Morgan there and leave him there?
Here’s a new way to fight:
http://www.duhprogressive.com/index.php/310-administrations-hopes-to-curb-gun-rights-shot-as-entire-nra-converts-to-islam
I know it’s completely off the topic of the post and this hearing, but I really wish I could reach through the screen and clear Leahy’s throat for him. Listening to him makes me need to cough.
Capt. Mark Kelly has not made me completely want to puke like other anti’s. I do not agree much of anything that he has said, but I am glad he seems to speak with some thought and not all emotions. He could have gotten up their crying and carrying on about gun violence. I just wanted to say I am glad he did not especially with the experiences he has personally had with violence. I would have liked to see a few more pro gun advocates from groups like SAF, GOA, or NAGR instead of Wayne the yes man. Even though, he has recently tried to take some lessons lately from charlton heston. James Johnson got me, he made me want to puke.
Not surprised at all. The MSM has been fabricating stuff for years. The Washington Post reporter who made up the story about the child crack head, the NY Times reporter(s) that completely fabricated stories, it goes on and on. Sadly this is what professional “journalism” has become. Does anyone really think they would play fair and be objective?
The problem you’re going to run into with logic like this is that you’re talking about rights to a leftest. They believe in the rights of the state not the rights of the individual. Most of them know very well that civilian disarmament will not make us safer, but that’s not the goal. The goal is to make subjects out of citizens.
Sorry, but I have to agree.
There’s a good possibility that the framers would as well.
“I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy, as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.” – T. Jefferson to H. Tompkinson (AKA Samuel Kercheval), July 12, 1816
220+ years is not too frequent an interval to change things.
Of course the hell is finding consensus about what to leave in, what to add, what to drop.
Yes, most of the (so-called) “left” just want to cut the 2A, but I’d strengthen it.