Not for Sale: My Winchester Model 1897 Shotgun

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Winchester Model 1897 shotgun
Courtesy ThunderVoice

By Thundervoice

NOT FOR SALE: One Winchester Model 1897 standard grade 12 gauge pump shotgun. Designed by John Moses Browning. Exposed hammer with slamfire capability. Manufactured in 1914. Barrel with matching serial number is 30 inches with full choke. Extra barrel is 26 inches with cylinder choke. Fired less than 100 rounds in the last 50 years.

Winchester produced over a million shotguns of this model between 1897 and 1957. Even though they quit making this shotgun before I was born, I’ve seen one for sale at just about every gun show I’ve been to. While still common, this is a one-of-a-kind gun. This one is mine. It has value to me far beyond its roughly $500 market value. It is a special gun. It is unique because of the memories and stories that are just as important as the firing pin deep inside this work of art.

This shotgun could be worth thousands of dollars, but it will stay in my family for as long as I am alive. No “compensated confiscation” for this gun. For its value cannot be measured. You see, I remember my father saying that this was his father’s gun. I remember my grandfather talking about duck hunting in the Arkansas backcountry with this gun.

Before I was born, my grandfather had been an avid duck hunter, who I now wish had taken me hunting at least once during the few times I got to spend with him. But by the time I was old enough to hunt, his eyes were too bad to shoot.

I remember my father cleaning this gun for his father when we visited my grandparents on vacation, taking care of it because he knew it would be his someday. I remember my father shooting the 1897 when he took me hunting as a young boy. Some day this Model 1897 will go to my son or daughter and, I hope, a grandchild, who exists only as a distant hope at this time.

I would bet dollars to doughnuts that my grandfather had this gun in his hands when he took my father hunting. I only wish I had asked my father about that before he passed away.

My father and I shared a common profession as traffic engineers and there were many things that he taught me that made me the man that I am today. Those lessons didn’t have anything to do with firearms, so during my final days with him, my only thoughts were to help him, thank him, and let him know how great of a father he was. Asking about a hundred-year-old shotgun was the furthest thing from my mind.

It wasn’t until a few months after he passed that my mother asked me about the shotguns in the closet. She didn’t know what they were, but when I pulled them out, I found the 1897 along with a couple of Remington Model 11’s (also manufactured before the Great War).

The memories started flowing back. As I pondered those guns, I realized that I had never asked my father about the history behind them. When did my grandfather buy them? Did he buy them new? How much did he pay? Did he trade mattress work for the 1897?

It’s hard to understand today, but my grandfather owned a mattress reconditioning company. Believe it or not, back in the day, when a mattress wore out, you didn’t throw it away. People took their mattresses to my grandfather to have them reconditioned. That business sustained my grandfather’s family through the Depression and into the early 1970s when he retired. So many questions, so few answers.

Shortly after I brought the 1897 home from my parents’ home, I was invited to shoot a round of sporting clays. What better chance to try out the 1897? I soon learned that John Moses Browning designed this gun when men were men and things like recoil pads were not something you designed into a shotgun.

After 50 rounds of sporting clays, my shoulder hurt…and not just a little bit. The word ‘sore’ is wholly inadequate to describe the feeling in my shoulder that day. Severe, throbbing pain was a more accurate descriptor. The shoulder was blue for more than two weeks, but I wouldn’t trade that day for the world.

I was able to take my son with me that day. There is magic in shooting a firearm that you know was shot by your grandfather and your father while you have your son alongside. And even though no more than two generations had been in the presence of that gun at any one time during its 101 year life, on that day, the gun provided a link between four generations of the men in my family.

As I lay in my bed that night massaging my shoulder, I realized this was not the first time I had shot this gun. The first time was when I was about ten years old. My father let me shoot it at a cardboard box before we went squirrel hunting in a Texas national forest. Even though I shot it from a sitting position, this firearm was too much for a ten-year old.

After pulling the trigger, I found myself on my backside. The ol’ 1897 blew that ten-year-old boy right over. Laid me out flat. Flat enough that my father was smiling at me lying on the ground. Fortunately, he was smart enough to know to only put one shell in the gun. He knew that gun the way I knew it that night, with the soreness and throbbing reinforcing the value of the lesson.

Six years later, my father and I were duck hunting with a group of his co-workers. He had the 1897 and I had my grandfather’s 16 gauge Stevens pump (I still have that gun as well).

After a morning of hunting, my dad and I had just split from the main party and were walking back to our vehicle when a hunter’s shotgun accidentally discharged into the thigh of another hunter. A life-and-death situation for a brand-new 16-year-old. I grew up fast that day. Before that, football seemed to be the most important thing in my life. But when a man’s life is hanging in the balance, you realize that football isn’t that significant. I learned a valuable lesson that day about firearm safety, muzzle discipline, first aid, and the consequences of what happens when firearm safety rules aren’t followed.

Years later, I was at an alumni function and was introduced to someone I was told was an important member of the community. The name sounded familiar and I asked him if he was the one that had been wounded in a hunting accident a dozen years earlier. He was. And he repeated over and over about how grateful he was to those men who saved his life. As the saying goes, it is a small world.

Another lesson I have learned from this gun is to write down each gun’s story. I plan to pass on every one of my firearms to my children. And if I were to die tomorrow, they would find a sheet of paper in the gun safe with the story of every gun in the safe. Who gave it to me or how much I paid for it. How I have used it. Because a hundred years from now, I want my great-grandchild to know the story of the gun he or she is holding in their hands.

This shotgun has a life of its own. And stories that go with it. I wish this gun could talk so that I could learn all of those other stories that no one ever wrote down. The good news is that its life is not over. You can bet that it’ll be in my hands during a future dove hunt when I have one of my kids with me. And I hope I can still hunt when a future grandson or granddaughter is old enough to go with me.

Someday, my son (or daughter) will have it in their hands when they take their son or daughter hunting. And maybe their grandson or granddaughter. This Model 1897 Winchester is more than just a shotgun. It is a thread that ties together the generation of my family – past, present, and generations to come.

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  1. I once had a model 1897 that has a similar story as this. It was my grandfather’s, then my dad’s and finally mine. The memories of hunting with both my grandfather and my father are some of the most precious memories that I have. My gun was very distinctive in that it has a chip on the stock that I can see in my mind’s eye after not seeing it for forty years.
    Unfortunately, my shotgun was stolen. I’ve been to many guns shows over the years looking for that gun and in my dreams I find it and beat the ever lovin’ crap out of the bastard that stole my memories.

  2. Well, of course it’s not for sale; just look at the photo — it’s broken in half. It’s hard to sell a gun that’s broke.

  3. I have the same gun made in 1916 that belonged to my father in law, and the last time it was shot was when he and I went hunting together. A great time with a great man that walked my wife down the aisle and rocked my chidren on his lap. I wish he was still here to see his great grandchildren. He would have loved it and could have taught them a few things for sure.
    And yes, it will be passed down the generations as well.
    Amen and God Bless

  4. Snagged a Norinco reproduction for $180 at a gun show; used, but new enough that it still needed breaking-in to smooth up the action. I guess the good ol’ boy who offloaded it to me saw that it was Chinese and figured it was just cheap crap. Shame that aftermarket heat shield/bayo lugs won’t fit it, though.

  5. I had my great grandfathers side by side English shotgun for just over 40 years before I passed it onto a younger nephew.

    He was ecstatic to receive a gun that his grandfather (one of my father’s brothers had used).

    I never met my great grandfather and barely my grandfather but the gun is now in the 5th generation of ownership in my family.

  6. Civil Forfeiture Victims to Get Jury Trials in Indiana (yes, for ‘protection orders’ and ‘red flag’ type things too…those are civil forfeiture too if they take guns which are also property).

  7. I have always had a soft spot for takedown shotguns. The later Stevens 520 and 620 both designed by JMB represent a minor improvement in the means of attachment.

  8. Good article. I wonder how one gets into mattress reconditioning . Or how one used to. Seems kind of a niche. Maybe not so much back in the good old days

  9. One of those Norinco 97 shotguns is my primary home defense tool. I bought it for cowboy action and used it in competition enough to get good with short range slam fire follow up shots.

  10. my brother is giving me a 12ga that was our dad’s. not sure what make/ model. i remember sneaking it out of the closet (das ist verboten!) as a kid. when he died mom wanted it out.
    i’ll be glad to pass it to the boy.

  11. My Dad and every male member of my family (5 of us) had one of these – when you got 14 Dad would track another one down. We would all gather at one of the campgrounds at Hurricane lake (Bald Knob, Arkansas) and have a squirrel tournament. We had an old camper for a headquarters/bunk and we’d put an X on the camper for each squirrel. The rules were simple. The most squirrels – you didn’t have to clean them. The least squirrels – You had to clean ALL of them – then buy the beer. The only gun you could use was a Model 97. Good times – fond memories!

  12. Thank you for writing this article. I have my fathers guns and we hunted a lot together, it brought back memories and good thoughts. I will be passing them on down to my sons and they in turn will be continue the tradition.


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