What sort of gun laws might [St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter] have in mind? In February last year, the Star Tribune reported:
“Democrats and gun control advocates have spent years pushing for a bill to expand criminal background checks to cover most private firearms transfers, as well as for a second bill enacting a “red flag” law to let courts temporarily remove guns from people deemed a threat to themselves or others. The first bill passed the House 69-62, the second 68-62.”
Both of these measures are directed [at] guns which are traded and owned legally. They will have absolutely no effect on guns which are traded and owned illegally, which is to say the overwhelming majority of guns used to commit crimes in Minnesota.
State law already prohibits you from owning a gun if you are a convicted felon (or convicted of a crime in another state punishable by one year and one day or more); have been convicted of, or have outstanding charges, for a felony crime of violence; are on probation for a felony conviction (not a crime of violence); have pending felony charges; have been convicted of domestic assault or an assault against a family or household member; and have been convicted of misdemeanor or gross misdemeanor drug charge within the last three years, among many other reasons. Almost all of those committing crimes with guns in Minnesota – including at least two of the three arrested for Sunday’s shooting – are already legally barred from owning them. The DFL’s proposed laws will do nothing whatsoever to stop them.
The public safety crisis in the Twin Cities is one of the most acute facing our state. In our search for solutions we must be guided by what works, not what the DFL’s leaders think they can sell to their base.
— John Phelan in DFL gun laws won’t help end Twin Cities crime surge
The old saying; “if ya can’t dazzle em with brilliance, baffle em with bullshit”! We all know what the ultimate goal is.
The Feds have an opinion about gun possession, too.
I personally wouldnt trust any articles coming out of a liberal hive such as Cornell Uni.
i’d like to zip in and out for a bob’s java hut tshirt (when my friend bob saw my last one i was relieved of it) but uptown is in flames.
when it becomes obvious these regulations are not effective they will be rescinded immediately.
“Ariz. deputy dies after being beaten unconscious by suspect” https://www.police1.com/officer-down/ariz-deputy-dies-after-being-beaten-unconscious-by-suspect-RHIOnpKLggjoCYe8/
Perp beats LEO unconscious, escapes the station, gets shot by homeowner, LE recapture. Beaten LEO dies from injuries.
No coverage on TTAG?
Did George S buy TTAG? 🤔
Was a gun envolved? TTAG no longer covers non gun crimes. They don’t have the “It should have been a defensive gun use” stories anymore.
Waaaaa…TTAG can’t cover every BS gun crime!
“TTAG can’t cover every BS gun crime!”
Wasn’t a gun crime. A homeowner shot the escaped perp before LE recaptured him.
FYI, no crying was involved in making my post.
Seems when TTAG content turns to memes (like dogs, toddlers and butt insertion of AR buffer tubes), some redirection of attention may be needed.
Like this story too……….
IDK, maybe some here on TTAG may “Waaaaa…” if memes aren’t regularly covered. 🤔
“Was a gun envolved”
A homeowner shot the suspect before LE recaptured him.
“Hurley [the perp] allegedly shot at the resident and the resident returned fire, hitting Hurley three times. He is currently hospitalized and stable.”
It’s interesting, I keep reading how “shooting under stress” makes it harder to hit the target, but almost every story I read about citizen shootings has resulted in a perp getting killed or wounded. Either the citizens in these stories are hard core operators, or maybe the whole “shooting under stress” this is bovine feces.
Both could still be true. You don’t hear about the ones where nobody got shot, and harder doesn’t mean impossible.
Point taken, though; it can’t be all *that* hard if all these senior citizens and assorted folks whose guns sit in the sock drawer for years keep pulling out their dusty gats and perforating people who deserve it.
The goal isn’t to lessen crime. Duh. “Never let a crisis go to waste.”
Not so fast all you sneaky fixated on Gun Control City Officials. Let’s itemize…
1) The Second Amendment is one thing.
2) The criminal misuse of firearms, bricks, bats, knives, vehicles, etc. is another thing.
3) History Clearly Confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is a racist and nazi based Thing.
I mean we could throw violent criminals in prisons. But i guess that’s not cool anymore.
well, the left want soft-on-crime policies because it’s “racist” to throw violent criminals in prison as it disproportionately impacts black people.
How ever, the left should look at it as it’s “racist” to NOT throw violent criminals in prison because the violence also disproportionately impacts black people.
St. Paul really needs to follow through on the “Defund the Police” program,half-ass measures just won’t do.
Thirty years ago, Boston had the same problem. They implemented a project that (1) prosecuted violent offenders, (2) put pressure on violent gangs by prioritizing them for execution of outstanding warrants, and (3) offered support for gang members who wanted to get out of the life. Results were so good that it became known as the Boston Miracle. Despite its success, the project was abandoned after ten years when new leadership took over in the city and the police department. Violent crime promptly began to increase again.
sounds like how Giuliani dropped the NYC murders from about 2,000 per year to something like 300 per year.
By the time someone is murdering someone else, it’s too late to let the person out of jail with no bail or call a social worker or therapist. It’s time to warehouse that person in prison until they are no longer a threat.
Gun control solution for crime: More gun laws!
Crime solution for more gun laws: LoL 🙂 “lets open that crate of AK’s now and celebrate.” – criminals likely to commit more crime ’cause, you know, criminals don’t obey laws
Defensive gun use solution to crime: BANG! and bullets inside criminal – criminal unlikely to commit more crime if defensive gun use person knows what they are doing.
Criminals do crime things? Who would’ve thought that.
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