From the CCRKBA . . .
Washington Gov. Jay Inslee and Attorney General Bob Ferguson need a refresher course on the constitution; Inslee because he doesn’t know the difference between a regulated privilege and a constitutionally-protected fundamental right, and Ferguson, because he evidently believes Second Amendment rights are subject to public opinion polls, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said today.
In his Monday demand for a new round of restrictive gun control measures, Inslee told the media, “You need to get a license to drive a car in the state of Washington. You need to get a license to go fishing. It’s time to get a license to make sure you have the safety training to purchase a gun in the state of Washington. And it’s high time we pass a bill to make sure you get a permit before you purchase a firearm.”
“Maybe Jay Inslee should head back to law school so he can get it right,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “Driving is a privilege. Recreational sport fishing is a privilege. But owning a firearm is a right protected by both the U.S. and Washington state constitutions. The notion citizens should need a license to exercise a right, and a permission slip from the police before they can exercise that right, is an abomination that clearly doesn’t pass the smell test.
“In his news release, Ferguson mentions two polls showing public support for a ban on semiautomatic rifles,” he added. “The attorney general should know that constitutionally-protected rights are not determined by the whims of opinion polls. Both the U.S. and Washington constitutions protect the right to bear arms. Neither says a thing about the type of arms, how they function or what they can, or cannot, look like.”
The Washington State Constitution’s Article 1, Section 24 states, “The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.”
“Requiring a license and permit to purchase a firearm is clearly an impairment of the right to bear arms,” Gottlieb observed. “No other enumerated constitutional right is encumbered with a permit requirement. As Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in the Bruen decision earlier this year, ‘The constitutional right to bear arms…is not ‘a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees’.”
“Inslee and Ferguson are grand-standing,” he continued. “They’re not talking about sending criminals to prison. They’re talking about restricting the rights of law-abiding citizens to create the false impression something is being done about violent crime, when it really isn’t. The Legislature should soundly reject these proposals.”
The Democrats hold large majorities in the WA state House and Senate. They’re going to shove this down your throat and then dare you to try to overturn it in court. It will probably have to go to SCOTUS and that will take years.
Meanwhile, you’ll be forced to live under their arbitrary, capricious “laws.”
Because that’s how despicable tyrants roll.
These evil f*cks got away with an insane amount of Covid tyranny. They got away with firing all the state workers who refused the ineffective and harmful Covid gene modification treatments. They got away with shutting down all the churches, schools, and businesses. The elections in Washington are all by mail and are certainly suspicious.
In case you haven’t noticed, we don’t actually live under either the State or Federal Constitutions. Still, hopefully this nonsense gets shut down.
This country really is fracturing.
Well damn even NY wasn’t able to fire state workers who refused the shot and NYC had to rehire with back pay anyone they terminated. Going to be a lot of interesting civil rights cases from this decade.
Sadly, I live under these creepy Commie rats. CHAZ “Summer of love”, the Seatlle City Council and Socialist Sawant, Antifa, BLM, LGBTQ…RSTUVWXYZ trans woke insanity, homeless hell, Big Gov State as god (little g). Pure evil.
“You need to get a license to drive a car in the state of Washington. You need to get a license to go fishing.”
those are not constitutional rights you twit.
A license is needed to purchase a handgun in the State of North Carolina. Connecticut as well. Missouri used to have that requirement, but repealed it.
NC requires a permit (for which there is a fee, of course) even for private transfers. Been the law on the books for decades. A bill was passed by the State Legislature last year to repeal it, but the Governor vetoed and it remains in force. I wonder if it would successfully be challenged one day under the Bruen standard.
https://ncsheriffs.org/wp-content/uploads/Master-Firearms-Publication-September-2016.pdf
And it’s not true that you need a license to drive a car. You need a license to drive a car ON PUBLIC ROADS. Private land, assuming owner’s permission, and you can drive a vehicle no problem.
to be more exact, you are correct.
Why do they harp on safety training? Intentional malicious acts care not if you’ve had any amount of training. If anything the right training will make intentional malicious acts more successful.
It’s as stupid as mag limits.
The anti-gun goons ban magazines because it is too hard to ban the pistols and rifles that use them. For example the Glock 17 and Glock 19; the most popular pistols out there use mags that have capacities of:
Standard: 15
Optional: 17 / 19 / 24 / 31 / 33
No one makes a 10 round magazine for them so they are banned, just like that. Magazine bans are unconstitutional.
both glock and magpul make a 10 round mag for the glock 17 and 19.
And numerous other Glock models and most major manufacturers of other full size and compact pistols. Given common sense they wouldn’t exist but we have “common sense gun laws”.
The best thing to do if they pass these laws is to ignore them just as they ignore the Constitution and if they complain about it tell them its tough. Better yet why are people putting these losers in office. Vote them out.
More Gun Control insanity. For Allen to talk to nitwits submerged in Gun Control he might as well be talking to a truckoad of cow chips.
Polls??? Some poll taken using the polluted minds of folks on the west side.
I live in Spokane…on the east side and Inslee is NOT favored over hear, indeed, we can’t stand him.
Good god, don’t get me going on that idiot, I’ll never shut up.
Not all of us on the west side want this nonsense. Inslee and Side Show Bob Ferguson need to be sent packing.
I’m down here in TriCities and Insley and Ferguson are curse words here. That west side keeps these lefty dictators in office.
The article can scream all it wants but the Scalia decision said the courts have the right to “regulate” firearms , double talk for restrict or ban.
Mandatory Firearms training and a permit system to buy a gun is already well within the law and various states already have such laws and some have had them for years. None were ruled unconstitutional by the courts.
And unless you live in Right Wing La, La, Land pubic opinion sure as hell does influence court decisions because the power mad corrupt criminals who sit on the court know damn well they can lose their cake life time jobs if they piss off enough people which includes the American Public. So outlawing or highly restricting assault rifles is a very real possibility.
After all the Lord God of the Right Wingers, the great Satan Pres. Reagan outlawed the sale of new machine guns and that could very well eventually include semi-auto rifles as well.
Reagan had no idea that amendment was added at the last minute in an illegal process and the rest of the bill was much needed.
once again you prove you don’t know what your talking about.
@dacin
You have no idea what “regulate” means.
the Scalia decision never said ‘regulation’ could be used to infringe/ban/prohibit/control/remove a law abiding persons second amendment right to keep and bear arms and in fact by the decision such is prohibited by the Scalia decision.
“Mandatory Firearms training and a permit system to buy a gun is already well within the law and various states already have such laws and some have had them for years. None were ruled unconstitutional by the courts.”
False
and the rest of your stuff is ignorant slanted wording garbage intended to deceive thus is false. For example, “Reagan outlawed the sale of new machine guns and that could very well eventually include semi-auto rifles as well.” > that never happened – Regan signed a bill that was presented to him from Congress and it was Congress democrats in a last minute illegal process amendment that outlawed by sneaking it into the bill and not telling Regan it was in there.
Booger Brain
You have got to be the biggest pathologically liar on this forum.
quote———– that never happened – Regan signed a bill that was presented to him from Congress and it was Congress democrats in a last minute illegal process amendment that outlawed by sneaking it into the bill and not telling Regan it was in there.———quote
Reagan made the statement and I quote him “People do not need the right to own machine guns” so he was well aware that the bill he signed was banning the sale of new machine guns.
And read the damn Scalia decision. One of its center pieces was that “The courts had the right to “regulate” firearms which is slick double talk for ban or restrict.
Adults need to show up at the polls. When 60% of the registered voters throw the ballot that was delivered to their mail box in the trash instead marking it and putting it back in the mail, that shows more voter sentament than the 40% that did vote.
Washington elections are decided by 21% of the registered voters. Definitely not a majority of anything, really, but those young 20 somethings that have nothing, that rent, that have no investment in anything they vote for are easily swayed by promises of “stuff” and any kind of dope they want, because it is fun and all they want to do is be creative (on the backs of the rest of us). Those voters are easy to corral and are perfect followers of the dimwit duo.
True, but the Democrats in Washington also have perfected the manufacture of ballots and delivering them when needed. This dates back a few decades – a needed boxful of votes always seems to materialize from Seattle when the “correct” ballot measure or candidate starts to lag in the election. Since the entire state is mail-in ballots only, there’s plenty of room for skullduggery.
Unfortunately, this is what happens when the major population centers have been under Democrat control/indoctrination for years/decades. I wish the legal firearm owners in WA. well in their efforts, but like as not, they will be stuck with this kind of crap legislation until and unless they can get control of the cities.
There are 39 counties in Washington state. Only three counties in the Seattle area which is a heavy democrat population base, voted for this. The other 36 counties which are red counties now suffer because of these communists. Non of what Gov. Inslee and AG Fferguson want is enforced on the eastern side of the state. It’s almost a joke in the rest of the state.
Stop crying like a b*tch.
Cope harder 😂
“Washington Gov. Jay Inslee and Attorney General Bob Ferguson need a refresher course on the constitution …”
For the umpteen thousandth time: politicians and bureaucrats such as Inslee and Ferguson understand the U.S. Constitution and their state constitutions. And they willfully IGNORE the U.S. Constitution and their state constitutions.
Stop ascribing ignorance or incompetence to their actions. Their actions are intentional, informed, and malicious. In case that isn’t clear, let me make it crystal clear: the Ruling Class regularly and intentionally deceives, coerces, uses, abuses, exploits, and consumes the Working Class for the gain of the Ruling Class. The sooner you realize that, the sooner we can start talking about what to do about it.
Humans have to have a license to hunt or fish
How dumb is that, seems like if you’ve got the right to bear arms you should have the right to shoot fish with them.
For any country in the world today:
1. There has never been a single case where making people defenseless stopped an in progress violent act against victims.
2. There has never been a single case where disarming people stopped overall violent crime from happening in society.
3. There has never been a law that stopped/prevented an in progress violent crime.
4. There has never been any country that had a reduction in violent crime overall because they banned weapons of any type (see 6 and 7 below).
5. There has never been any country that did not have the majority of their violent crime happen inner-racially.
6. In every country in the world that has banned firearms to any extent – overall criminal violence rates increased but reporting (to authorities) of the incidents decreased (indicates a defenseless population in fear of revenge/reprisal/actions by violent criminal actors).
7. In every country in the world that has banned firearms to any extent – criminal violence rates against females and minorities increased but reporting (to authorities) of the incidents decreased (indicates a defenseless female and minority population in fear of revenge/reprisal/actions by violent criminal actors).
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