Violence, then, is really only justified when there is no other recourse, when speech is shut down, when public opinion no longer matters, when elections are decided, as alluded to by Stalin, not by those who vote, but by those who count the votes. And when you cross that line, it’s not an issue of “protest and go home” but it’s war.
Don’t kid yourself that it’s anything else. The war might be justified, but it remains a war and you are an enemy combatant to the powers that be. They might just treat you as a criminal if they don’t want to acknowledge the war. Or they may go ahead and acknowledge the war and brand you a traitor. In either case, you are pledging “your life, your fortune, and your sacred honor” to that cause.
If you aren’t ready to do that, then keep your protest peaceful, and stay far away from those who do not.
— David Burkhead in Political Violence and the Second Amendment
He ignores the third option – slavery.
Frankly 75% of congress have the mindset of a pussy whipped boy in jr. high school. The democRats have it the worst competing to see who can do the most to shower AOC with anything the bitch wants. If she wants pipeline construction shut down and thousands of jobs lost so be it. If she wants wall construction stopped so be it. Then you have the pussy whipped john kerry AKA lurch echo AOC insanity by telling workers they were misled over the past 4 years about the environmental damage done by their actions and in a sense they should be honored by their sacrifice, That coming from a lily white democRat pos flying around in his private jet and basking in mountains of Heinz money.
It’s also the reason for democRats to hurry-scurry and pass a stimulas to buy their way out and cool tempers. Of course the $2000.00 Stimulas which is a POTUS DJT idea now belongs to joe and the ho all thanks to the delay, delay, delay back stabbing mitch mcconnell who can now sit back and mumble to himself while he rides along in luxury at the back of the democRat Party bus.
Make no mistake about it…all of this sicko democCrap comes from lily white democRats and their RINO “colleagues.”
That reminds me…I haven’t seen the real ‘enuf’ in quite a while.
He and Vlad are both Generals in Venezuela
He’s busy polishing his 30 pieces of silver.
Enuf isn’t gone, just lurking. He popped in very late on one of yesterday’s posts to call Ralph names, which gave me a fun opportunity to call him out as an idiot and a POS, as he seems to think the people he voted for are somehow *not* doing what they’re clearly doing.
He’s still lurking. I saw him on an article the other day. All these flavors and enuf choses salty…
I think you’ve got it right DebbieW.
One things for certain my plans for a peaceful life after retirement sure went to hell in a hurry.
The funny thing is that shutting down XL will actually increase carbon dioxide output. Instead of traveling down an electrically powered pipe, they’ll use diesel trains to bring the oil south. Canada isn’t going to just leave the oilsands alone. Shutting down American oil leases makes the oilsands even more price competitive. Typical Dem reaction of ignoring the facts and going with feels.
Seems to me that slavery as a third option got ruled out when the democrats lost the first civil war.
Slavery was reinstated by the demoncrats disguised as ” The War on Poverty “. The crook LBJ signed it into law.
This guy gets it.
“We’ll have those (N Words) voting democrat for the next 30 years”. – LBJ
Among many other VERY racist confirmed and recorded things he said.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
Well on our way to the “third option”!
As soon as they got 50.1 percent control they moved like the 49.9 didn’t matter. They have waited for years to make their move.
Now we see what happens next.
“They have waited for years to make their move.”
Your sense of drama is stunning but unrealistic.
In 2009-2011 Obama/Biden held the presidency and the majority in both houses of Congress, yet there was no dastardly communist takeover, just an expansion of your gun rights onto millions of acres of federally managed lands.
And out of 42 executive orders issued by Biden, not one concerns guns.
From watching the Biden/Harris administration’s first moves, it seems their priority is the hundreds of thousands of dead Americans from COVID-19 and passing the economic stimulus package to bring some relief to America’s workers.
As opposed to furthering the satanic pedophile conspiracy in league with the lizard people.
And how is that whole Q ‘The Storm’ thing going, anyway. I haven’t heard much about the military takeover of America that he promised.
You are a toady promoting tyranny and servitude. My hope and prayer is you get what you deserve.
The first two years of the Obama administration was spending political capital on Obama Care. That bit them in the 4th point of contact in the midterms. They blustered about “doing something about those guns” but had they done so the luttle political capital they had left would have cost them the next election.
Right now we don’t see that fear of losing an election over firearms. Ol Joe is hoping the excessive EOs he is going thru will buy him some capital since he has started with very little.
The next 2 years will be interesting
Thank you for proving my point, the Obama Biden ministration chose to work on the healthcare issue in the first two years, providing healthcare to America’s middle and low income workers, in addition to rolling back Reagan era prohibitions on firearms in national forests.
Obama/Biden chose to spend their political capital on healthcare for Americas workers and expanding gun rights for American citizens.
Destroying oil and coal jobs isn’t helping workers or the rest of us. Obama aca fucked over so many it’s sick . I once had good health insurance at a decent price now its shit for 7 times the cost. You can shove it all up your leftist ass. Mother fucker
You’re gonna contradict Obama himself? ““I will say that was not only maybe the saddest day of my presidency, but when Congress failed to do anything in the aftermath of Sandy Hook was probably the angriest I ever was during my presidency,” Obama said. “I was disgusted and appalled by the inaction […]”
And after his now infamous “I have a pen and a phone” comment his administration rolled out operation choke point, in an effort to get rid of businesses they deemed undesirable.. including guess who? Gun stores.
Other instances of Obama calling for “gun control”
No one believes your lies miner.
Yes, they spent the capital on ruining health insurance. They should have helped those who were without not ruin what many had. I know my co-pays increased, my caps were higher, the monthly cost increased and the coverage was lower. So much for a Obama care saving money… well the insurance companies may have saved money.
I haven’t been able to afford health insurance since my disability coverage ran out. $1000 a month for minimum coverage and a $5000 deductible is not “affordable.” And that is the only coverage offered in my area. Thanks for nothing, Obama.
Of course they don’t fear elections. It doesn’t exist.
Actually his priority seems to be killing off high paying union career jobs and making sure all income levels get stuck paying more foor any goods they buy. But i guess you missed that along with the dems planning to nuke the filibuster and shoving through statehood for washington dc. But nope absolutely no power grab here move along.
The reversal of *some* of the Reagan era restrictions happen in Dec, 2008 under Bush.
I say simply, STFU.
Thats what happens when you have a democracy and not a republic.
you are right there and as far as gun control he tried at every chance and now Biden has restarted to operation chock point again because if they cannot pass gun control just close of the money supply to the makers, sellers and buyers take care of it that way
If the Gamestop squeeze is a modern Boston Tea Party we’re about two years out from the shot heard ’round the world.
Given the nearly universal reaction among the corporate class and lefty political elites has been to call for more regulation and demonize the John Q Public I’m guessing they’re going to drop the hammer hard, further insulate the beautiful people and start pulling shit like banning ownership of precious metals and converting accounts to some sort of new federal bitcoin.
That should ramp up the anger and mistrust and move things along nicely.
And they would call those… Freedom Bucks. You know, because they are the ones that love this country and liberty. They just want to destroy it. That’s how you treat something you love and respect.
A federal bitcoin would be nothing more than a cryptography singed ledger on centralized infrastructure. Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to just print more whenever they wanted. A crypto currency standard would actually be better so long as it wasn’t subject to being artificially inflated and provided anonymity. Not that the feds would ever allow that.
Cryptocurrency (“digital cash”) is a disastrously irresponsible scheme that deserves universal repudiation. It, like all digital platforms, is inherently designed for manipulation by those who build/own/control the system. Also, by design, no interconnected digital system can be made secure, so not only is digital cash at the mercy of the gatekeepers- it cannot be made secure from any “bad actor”. Fail, and fail.
And, like the rest of this ill-conceived “digital corner” humans have painted themselves into- none of it works when the lights go (or are taken) out. Strike three- we’re out.
Just remind the people of the ecological impact of cryptocurrencies. Every single transaction consumes as much energy as the average household for about 3 months. Some are better than others, but the whole blockchain system requires massive amounts of artificial “work” for proof of the transaction to be recorded on the large network of servers across the world.
Strangely enough, Ted Cruz and Donald Trump Junior agree with the “lefty political elites” opinion on the GameStop/Robin Hood issue:
“Ocasio-Cortez and Trump Jr., in an unusual meeting of the minds, were among those cheering on the Reddit phenomenon.
“Gotta admit it’s really something to see Wall Streeters with a long history of treating our economy as a casino complain about a message board of posters also treating the market as a casino,” Ocasio-Cortez wrote in a tweet.
She said in a subsequent post that Robinhood’s move to cut off retail access “while hedge funds are freely able to trade the stock as they see fit” was “unacceptable.”
Cruz later reposted Ocasio-Cortez’s tweet with the comment: “Fully agree.”
Added Trump Jr.: “It took less than a day for big tech, big government and the corporate media to spring into action and begin colluding to protect their hedge fund buddies on Wall Street. This is what a rigged system looks like, folks!”
Oh wow, Cruz and Trump Junior are now members of The Squad!
AOC dropped her support upon seeing Cruz supporting her.
Liawatha Warren also came out to defend Wall Street.
The elitist lefty opinion on display here is one of supporting the billionaire tycoons and going after the little guy.
In fact, it seems to be the wealthy elite Republican Wall Street bankers who are attacking the game stop freedom.
Leon Cooperman is the archetypical Republican billionaire, crying about his fortune when ordinary Americans exercise their freedom to participate in the stock market.
“In recent years, Cooperman has primarily donated to Republican political campaigns.
In November 2011, Cooperman gained attention for an open letter to U.S. President Barack Obama in which among other things charged the president with engaging in class warfare. This letter has been characterized by Joseph Palermo of The Huffington Post as a rant bemoaning the mistreatment of billionaires by the president and his “minions” (Cooperman’s word).
In 2019, he criticized Democratic 2020 presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren’s proposal to implement a wealth tax. He said it would lead to “unnatural acts, be near impossible to police, and is probably unconstitutional.” He said that the stock market would drop by 25% if Warren was elected. In an interview on CNBC, Cooperman started crying over the potential Warren wealth tax and its implications on his billion dollar fortune. His crying over the hypothetical tax increase was then used as part of a Bernie Sanders 2020 presidential campaign advertisement.
“During the January 2021 GameStop short squeeze, Cooperman appeared on CNBC to discuss the situation, angrily saying it was caused by “people sitting at home getting checks from the Government”.
These are globalists. Great Reset scumbags. Any party affiliation they may claim is fluid and meaningless.
Cooperman, The Squad, Biden, Cheney, etc…they all hate us.
Miner does not understand and will never accept that. He only knows one way. Usually whatever way CNN tells him to go.
Miner, as usual, you are a flat out liar and hypocrite when you said:
“Obama Biden ministration chose to work on the healthcare issue in the first two years, providing healthcare to America’s middle and low income workers”
I retired, but my wife is too young to get medicare and is still on Obozocare. It’s costing
us $15,500/ year for this “affordable” health care for 1 person. and that’s AFTER the govt. pays it’s share, which is $9,540 .
This has to come out of my pension and social security. I guess this is what you call providing health care to the middle class.
Before Obozo, I was paying $5,660/year for BOTH OF US. I overpaid over $60,000 in the last 8 years because of the lying stupidass blowhard Obozo , his idiotic supporters like you, and all the other libtards fighting each other to get their tongue up Hussein’s ass.
Yep, cha-ching….. ka-ching!
“The Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Friend.” AOC and Ted’s courses just ran in parallel for awhile. That hardly means that were in any ideological alignment re: free market capitalism. The hedge-funds got handed their heads because they forgot how market capitalism actually works. This is a good example of just why Fascism is a poor substitute for market capitalism. Pretending to be a free market capitalist when you are, in fact, a closet Fascist is an old, very threadbare ploy.
Securities fraud is securities fraud, no matter the socioeconomic class of the suspect. Last I checked, Enron did that stuff back in the day, and people were jailed for it.
We’re already at war (5th gen informational/optics warfare), it just no one wants to be ‘that guy’ and that’s understandable. Its a war the 2A been fighting for a while. Its hard to win these battles when the nearly all media outlets stand against you. People can’t find the truth unless they actively search for it. Regular people in general don’t care about the truth. Only what makes them feel better.
If you don’t tow the line, you are branded a terrorist sympathizer.
If you actively participate against the narrative, you are branded terrorist.
When they called for healing, they meant its time for heeling. Thing is, the politically ignorant can’t tell the difference even after everything that has happened. After the lies. After the riots.
How can someone believe everything a news pundit tells them?
Pretending there was an “insurrection” is telling. After ignoring BlackLootersMurdering and Antifools past year. The revolution will be televised via smartphone…
The revolution was televised by smart phones, it was just a failure. Great ratings though.
And it was an attempted coup, much evidence is coming to light of the pretty boys prior planning, I’d say they’ll be charged with seditious conspiracy in the near future.
In their messages to one another they spoke openly that their goal was to interrupt the counting of the electoral college ballots, this was the key to throwing the election back into the state legislatures, dominated by Republicans who would select electors for Donald Trump.
The very definition of an insurrection.
Anyone who claims to abide by the United States Constitution, needs to abide by the decisions of the Supreme Court of the United States of America, as mandated by the United States Constitution.
“..The revolution was televised by smart phones, it was just a failure. …”
Dopamine running low today?
There was no Revolution attempted or otherwise.
Here’s some more straw, Mr. Shut-in.
He probably hasn’t left his mom’s basement in almost a year.
If it had really been a takeover there would have been a lot of dead congress assholes and the people attacking would have lost many also
Minor 69er is retarded. I suppose he thinks the BLM riots were justified against the evil white man. Dumbazz…
Whatever provides your justification to interrogate and execute deplorables.
Just remember that many of Stalin’s executioners were in turn also executed. The system eats it’s own.
So you will support support charges against the chaz crowd then. Oh and when the Supreme Court said black people weren’t you know people you support that.
And you forgot to praise barry o as a progun predident for signing legislation to carry in national parks again.
Funny how barrack is praised by Miner for such things when it’s literally a blip on the map compared to the infringements he also did… magazine limitations anyone? Anyone?
How about the 23 executive orders signed the day after Sandy Hook? Anyone? Miner? No?
I’ll do it for you then, since I know you love copy and paste, and wikipedia style bullshit (I mean, even they throw your progressive gods under the bus, so…):
The executive actions signed by President Obama were:
Issuing a presidential memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS).
Addressing unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), that may prevent states from making information available to NICS.
Improving incentives for states to share information with NICS.
Directing the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
Proposing a rule making to give law enforcement authorities the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
Publishing a letter from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
Starting a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
Reviewing safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
Issuing a presidential memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
Releasing a report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and making it widely available to law enforcement authorities.
Nominating an ATF director.
Providing law enforcement authorities, first responders and school officials with proper training for armed attacks situations.
Maximizing enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
Issuing a presidential memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to research gun violence.
Directing the attorney general to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenging the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
Clarify that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Releasing a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
Providing incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
Developing model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship, and institutions of higher education.
Releasing a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
Finalizing regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within insurance exchanges.
Committing to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
Starting a national dialogue on mental health led by Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, and Arne Duncan, the secretary of education.
The White House’s proposed congressional actions were these:
Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt.
Reinstating and strengthening the federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 (AWB 1994) that expired in 2004.
Limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds.
Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the military and law enforcement.
Increasing criminal penalties for “straw purchasers” who pass the required background check to buy a gun on behalf of someone else.
Acting on a $4 billion administration proposal to help keep 15,000 police officers on the street.
Confirming President Obama’s nominee for director of the (ATF).
Eliminating a restriction that requires the ATF to allow the importation of weapons that are more than 50 years old.
Financing programs to train more police officers, first responders and school officials on how to respond to active armed attacks.
Provide additional $20 million to help expand the system that tracks violent deaths across the nation from 18 states to 50 states.
Providing $30 million in grants to states to help schools develop emergency response plans.
Providing financing to expand mental health programs for young people.
“bUt yOu CaN CarRy iN NatiOnaL pArkS nOw”
Some less relevant to the gun control cause but nonetheless, the idea behind them was gun control all the same. Refute me bro.
It may surprise you to know that most of these items I don’t really disagree with, I don’t think you read through the list.
“Issuing a presidential memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.“
You disagree with this one? You don’t want the police to trace guns recovered in crimes?
Or these actions:
“Directing the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.”
Guns for the mentally defective and psychopaths, more business for the gun industry is always good, right?
“Proposing a rule making to give law enforcement authorities the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.“
“Here’s your gun back, sorry to have bothered you Mr. Hinckley”
I don’t see any way out except another American Civil War.
The midterm elections will be stolen just like the presidential election.
The saying is that you can vote your way into communism, you have to shoot your way out
Election gets stolen for real by Russia. iT wAs Fair aNd FrEe!!!
Trump gets destroyed in an actual fair and free election. iT wAs StOlEn TiMe tO gO To wAr!!
Stupid right wingers and their delusions…
Lord Haw haw is in the house. I’ll wait while you research the reference.
The left really is stupid. At least their voters are. Russia stole an election but years of investigation, the entirety of the left owned government “agencies” at their disposal, and millions of dollars, and they couldn’t find anything. No judge will take up the obvious election stealing that just happened and it’s the same. Cognitive dissonance doesn’t even cover half that gap of stupid.
They aren’t all stupid, Chadwick. Most are evil and many are foolish, but not dumb.
The vast majority know it’s a lie (evil) just as they knew Kavanaugh was innocent, that human climate change is a farce, there is no white supremacy movement, etc. Because they are immoral they embrace lies to get their way. I believe they are so emboldened now that they will only be defeated by other means at this point.
Maybe they are not all “stupid” but they chose to not care, and that is the worst part.
A YTer (sorry, I forget his name, James something) interviewed hundreds of random people on the streets and most of them said they did not care if the election was fraudulent, as long as DJT was gone. That is fucking pathetic. Then they cry about “muh constitution” when patriots want to zip tie politicians for fucking this country back to 1776. Can’t make this willful ignorance up. It’s bliss to them. They chose to be subjugated. Most even vote continually for it. “For the safety of others” or “The greater good” or “hope” or whatever other dumbass virtue signaling bullshit you can make up. Education is irrelevant when you chose to ignore such politics. It’s basically a sexual fetish to them. As long as they have the internet, a car, electricity, and food, they are happy with not actually being free.
Receipts, please?? Or are you just the lying, c***-s***ing troublemaker that we all know you are???
Nearly two years of taxpayer-subsidized, FBI–conducted “investigation” of the whole Russia hoax produced . . . less than $250K of “Russian” disinformation ads. $250K. “No evidence of collusion”. Remember that???
OTOH, any competent statistician can tell you the 2020 election results were statistically impossible.
Please, either do better, or go the f*** away. On second thought, just go the f*** away.
‘gO ThE fUcK AwaY’, writes the whiny bitch who can’t be bothered with things like ‘facts’ and ‘the truth’ and who has to be spoon fed by OAN and/or Newsmax. It’s ‘men’ like you that are to blame for the precipitous fall of this once great republic.
Ignore him, LoD. He’s been on a tirade ever since his mother stopped breastfeeding him last month.
Another lazy retort by ‘Ralph’. I guess that’s to be expected from a ‘man’ whose law degree doubles as a napkin.
Ralph. 42 is plenty old enough to stop breast feeding him. Much past that and it gets a little creepy.
Did this fucking tool just say “Another lazy retort”? Bruh, you can’t even find a username and are choosing to troll here instead of at least stooping to a Miner49er or Enuf level. You are like the shit on THEIR shoes lol. That is fucking lazy, and obviously pathetic. Attention whoring like that shows some serious mental issues. When you pop, and you will pop, make sure you turn the gun on yourself and not everyone else like the rest of you idiots always try to.
Disgraced general Mike Flynn, Cuck Roger stone, Paul Manafort, etc. would probably disagree with your claim that there were no crimes found in the Russian collusion investigation.
And who can forget that wacky meeting with Donald Trump Junior and the GRU agent in Trump Tower?
Or Trump’s Rothschild banking handler Wilbur Ross’ ties to Putin that he ‘failed to disclose‘?
Here’s one item General Michael Flynn lied about to the FBI, violating his sacred Oath:
“It was a (red) star-studded affair, the December 2015 dinner celebrating the 10th birthday of Russian TV network RT. At a luxe Moscow hotel, President Vladimir Putin and a host of Russian luminaries toasted a state-backed news channel that U.S. intelligence calls a Kremlin mouthpiece.
And next to Putin at the head table, in the seat of honor, was an American. Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who would later become Donald Trump’s national security adviser, was already advising Trump’s presidential campaign when he was paid $45,000 to speak at the gala.“
Lamprey, I provided receipts on Michael Flynn’s collusion with Vladimir Putin, receiving $45,000 in secret payments but I don’t see a reply from you, what’s up?
Now that Trump has lost his presidential immunity and the ability to pardon his co-conspirators, I predict we’ll see many more indictments, convictions and sentencing hearings for Trump and his fellow insurrectionists.
Since nothing was done to change the process to be more secure since 2016, what makes you believe the Russians didn’t do it again? Or the Chinese, the Iranians or anyone else?
Belief that the election was more secure and free than the previous takes a special type of ignorance.
Funny how they forget in 2018 senator fauxcohontis signing of on a report that mail in ballots being the most vulnerable to voter fraud.
As usual, the progtards get literally everything that matters backwards.
Every single comment you make is either an ad hominem attack, a straw man, or a combination of the two. Not a sign of a towering intellect. Of course you are entitled to express your opinions but please get better at it.
Take action locally and at the state level. Be an election observer if necessary.
Aleksander Solzhenitsyn describes this very thing in his three volumes of “Gulag Archipelago”. Look up some of Dr. Jordan Peterson’s lectures on this…you will be absolutely horrified.
Recently, legislators and MSM “Journalists” have suggested that all “Trumpsters” just need to be taken and “Re-Educated” because they are so broken. You know…do them a favor, right?…Help them out.
To people who recognize history and understand the true meaning of these words, this is chilling. Remember…they are being uttered by the same people who re-labeled the action of murdering unborn children a “Woman’s Healthcare Right” or “Right to choose”…and also suggest that this should be fought for at all costs. However, they do constant bombing runs at the 2A so people who might actually want to fight for their very lives cannot do so as guaranteed by our constitution.
So I ask, if they cannot even be truthful about that, then can we expect anything different from them?
Perilous times indeed. Most of America is asleep at the switch.
This was posted 5 years ago.
“We will be monsters.”
I am incredulous that the powers that be think they can abandon all ethics and morality and I and others will cling to them for eternity.
When you treat men as animals and threaten them, don’t be surprised when they show teeth and claws. When in the course of human events too many boundaries are crossed rational thought and logic will demand negating the threats to having your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness deprived.
These idiots in the beltway seem to lose touch of what real America feels or believes. When greed and power become what you live for then there are no moral boundries so you become a swamp creature.
The federal Government created a monster called Timothy McVeigh. After the government murdered an innocent American family in Ruby Ridge. And then murdered a Christian church in Waco Texas.
And the Avenging Angle was an Atheist.
I find it very interesting that the CoIntelPro operation infiltrated almost everything *except* Timothy McVeigh’s little circle.
Result: Boom! And a bit more freedom lost for everyone.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
“And the Avenging Angle was an Atheist.”
It seems you have an acute problem with being obtuse…
Lake County Examiner, Lakeview, Oregon: Wednesday, January 27th, 2021/Letters To The Editor
Socialism has failed in every nation and country it was imposed
“The American Socialist tradition is noble”, so stated a misinformed letter writer in the Wednesday, Jan. 6 Klamath Falls Herald and News. Must this writer be reminded socialism has failed in every nation and country it was imposed? How did socialism work in Venezuela under the late Communist Dictator Hugo Chavez? Bear in mind the murderous French Revolution (1789-1799) which sowed the seeds of both World War 1 (1914-1918) and World War II (1939-1945) and modern Totalitarian National Socialism: Communist, Nazi, and Fascist regimes.
View the 2008 online YouTube video “The Soviet Story.” Yes…..both the murderous Nazi SS (includes the Gestapo) and Soviet NKVD from the Hitler/Stalin era were Totalitarian National Socialists. As was Benito Mussolini: Fascist Dictator of Italy, Juan Peron of Argentina, and Francisco Franco of Spain during the 20th century.
The 30 minute online video “Overview of America” at http://www.jbs.org explains this in considerable depth. Finally “The House Of Terror” in Budapest, Hungary” at You Tube likewise delves into the political violence, terror, and mass murder by both the Nazis and Communists, up to 1945 when World War II ended, and the decades beyond. The Anti-Semitic Hungarian Arrow Cross and Romanian Iron Guard (both National Socialist and Fascist) is mentioned in graphic detail.
If socialism is so great, then why have generations of political refuges sought escape from this evil godless system of genocide, mass killing, and enslavement?
James A. Farmer Merrill, Oregon (Klamath County)
Socialism, gun control/civilian disarmament, and state terror is the historical recipe for political violence. The Second Amendment and private gun ownership is the bulwark against such tyranny!
I don’t know where to start, perhaps this is the most interesting:
“the murderous French Revolution (1789-1799) which sowed the seeds of both World War 1 (1914-1918) and World War I”
So you believe that the overthrow of the French monarchy led to WW one and two?
George Washington was concerned about how it seemed Americans loved monarchy, I guess he was right.
You might want to investigate the actual causes of the first world war, you may find it interesting.
It would really help if the Left would stop being hypocrites when it comes to the 1st Amendment. That is the real cause of much of the anger on the Right.
The problem is the so called Libertarians Liberals and the Left have not supported the 1st amendment. When Christians began to block abortion clinics, that was a reaction. To the fact that anti war protestors were allowed to block streets and block off entrances to military recruiting centers. They boast about their support for the KKK and National Socialists marching in black and Jewish neighborhoods.
But they don’t support the open carry of weapons by law abiding citizens. But the three L’s do support the KKK marching with guns. They say its good to burn the American flag. They say Its ok to hate your own country. But you can’t burn a Rainbow flag. Or the flag of Israeli. Then its bad to hate gays and jews. It was the people who hate this country that burned cities and murdered innocent people, at will, last year. The three L’s supported. They called them “Trumps Secret Police” , when he tried to have the arsonists arrested.
The Left now has a “Standing Army” in the nations capitol. And there are no complaints from the Libertarians Liberals or the Left. Something President Trump never did. The Democrats now plan on building a wall around the capitol. But no wall to protect the nations borders. But a wall to “protect” them from the voters. So now you will need permission to use your 1st amendment to petition your representatives for redress of grievances???
It’s now ok to sh!t and p!ss in public. Walk around with a strap on dildo well fitted for public attire. Sex acts in public. All supported by the three L’s. But they don’t support open carry???
They are happy to have only the government, cops/military, open carry guns. Their complaints about the government having the exclusive use of extreme violence is just bullsh!t.
I think it might be time for a “Great Divorce”. And what really funny is its the atheists who are now against divorce. And the Christians who are now supporting a divorce. If you want to stay together? Then we need some kind of “national marriage counseling”.
There are over 73 million people with different skin colors, Democrat and Republican, that voted for President Trump. I think it would be a serious mistake to make them angry. Because in general Trump voter have guns. Lots of them. And in general Biden voter don’t have guns. Because Biden voters have supported gun control for decades now.
Fixed bayonets have always made a great way to control a crowd. Civilians should have and use them. A 6 or 7 foot tall sharp spear works too. And spears cost less. Open carry doesn’t mean violence will come. Rather it stops violence from every starting.
Liberals are quite happy to burn an Israeli flag. List to the Squad talk. Despite having support of the majority of American Jews, antisemitism is rampant on the left. They hate Israel. They support the Palestinians since they’re composed of leftist, socialist, and Marxist factions.
if you are a dark-skinned liberal like the squad, then yes it is okay to hate Jews. And burn the Israeli flag. The white liberals will look the other way. Some may perhaps agree with them as well.
“I think it would be a serious mistake to make them angry. Because in general Trump voter have guns. Lots of them.”
The more statements pro gun folks make like this, the more difficult path for those who want to expand gun rights.
It’s imitation and threats will not work on reasonable Americans, they were react in the opposite, making sure folks like you don’t have the ability to carry out your violent threats.
Trump lost the election and to suggest using force of arms in an attempt to change the outcome will only ensure your extermination.
Trump told the pretty boys to “stand back and standby”, and then he threw them under the bus. They’ll all be doing hard time in just a few months, along with several other devoted Trump supporters who believed his lies.
Q will not come and save you, there is no storm or great awakening, they were all pulling your chain with lies about election fraud.
Its the Libertarians who are really afraid of open carry. And at Reason TV they admit it. It was the Libertarian anarchists who ended up cracking first. It was painful for the Libertarians to have to admit this in a video. video is 11 minutes long.
When they say “its complicated”, you know they are embarrassed about what they found. They looked in a mirror. And found their answer.
“The Complicated Truth About the Boogaloo Movement”
MY OATH : PROTECT , PRESERVE AND DEFEND ; OUR CONSTITUTION .
GOD BLESS AMERICA
“VIOLENCE is the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived.”
– Robert A. Heinlein
As it is with most posts here on TTAG, these comments are decidedly “spirited”. While working my way through them, it occurred to me that with such passionately zealous, unequivocally pronounced, and unashamedly imperious proclamations, is there any “common ground” upon which there can be some form of agreement?
Thinking about the possibility of “common ground” agreement, I was prompted to contemplate an elemental instance where all the arguments are contingent upon acceptance of one common ground concurrence (actually agreeing on what happened). That led me to asking a question that I sincerely would like an accurate, truthful, unbiased, non-partisan, confirmable, incontrovertible answer to…
Serious question here- DEAD. SERIOUS. QUESTION.
I would like to see concrete, demonstrable, palpable, irrefutable evidence that the election was “stolen”. I do not want links to media reports, internet opinions, heresay, unverified video evidence, partisan braggadocio, or any other ineffectual drivel that avoids providing genuine proof. I’m talking the kind of proof that cannot be evaded.
When people work themselves into such a state that they’re publically advocating mutiny on a public Weblog (a pointedly questionable rationale), one would expect them to have undoubtable proof upon which to base their stance. I have yet to see any.
It’s arguably the most important question underlying a majority of the current disharmony we’re experiencing. Is there proof? If so- what is it? If not- what the hell are people doing?
Although I sincerely wish to get an unambiguous answer… I accept that the chance of that happening is rather remote. Still, if there is actual proof of a stolen election- there’s a lot of us that would love to see it. It’s really kinda important.
It’s most important because… if you’re willing to go to war- you damn well better know exactly WHAT you’re doing it for, and you sure as hell better be 100% CERTAIN that you’re authoritatively correct… and not just being played.
Help me out here. Seriously.
PA violated their state constitution by allowing greatly expanded mail voting, because to change their voting rules requires a constitutional amendment which they didn’t do. Does that constitute stolen? It sure isn’t legal.
“PA violated their state constitution”
The Pennsylvania constitution establishes the Pennsylvania Supreme Court as ultimate arbiter of all issues under law in the state of Pennsylvania, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the Republican Legislature’s passage of act 77 was constitutional.
When the matter was taken up by the United States Supreme Court, they upheld the Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision.
End of story, you lost.
A sad sidebar, act 77 was passed a year before the general election by the Republican Legislature and there were no objections to the legislation. It wasn’t until Donald Trump lost a year later, that the Republicans got their panties in a wad of hypocrisy.
There is no actual evidence that any sort of fraud scheme was carried out by Democrats or anyone else.
This is why Trump and his allies have lost in court 64 times, they got nothing.
Just lies, rumors and misdirection.
All on a nice bed of hypocrisy, check out the facts regarding this claim that Pennsylvania’s absentee ballots were unconstitutional:
“In October 2019, the Republican-led Pennsylvania General Assembly passed an election law, Act 77, that added no-excuse voting by mail, a provision pushed by Democrats. The act says that any qualified elector who is not eligible to be an absentee elector can get a mail-in ballot. Republicans got one of their priorities included too: elimination of straight-ticket voting. The bill drew supporters from both parties, but it had more support from Republicans.
“It was always touted as a bipartisan effort to get ready for 2020, pre-pandemic, bring Pennsylvania in line with Florida and Ohio and a bunch of states that had the no excuse system,” said Edward B. Foley, an Ohio State University constitutional law professor who specializes in elections.
Act 77 required constitutional challenges be brought within 180 days, but that didn’t happen. After Trump lost the Nov. 3 election, U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly, R-Pa., and co-plaintiffs filed a case against state officials arguing that the mail-in ballot provisions in Act 77 were a violation. Kelly asked the court to prohibit the certification of results that included mail-in ballots or direct the Pennsylvania General Assembly to choose electors.
One week later, the state Supreme Court dismissed the petition as untimely, writing that the plaintiffs filed their case more than a year after Act 77 was enacted and after millions of residents had already voted in the primary and general elections. The case was filed as the final ballots “were being tallied, with the results becoming seemingly apparent,” the court wrote. The court’s three-page order did not address whether Act 77 and the state constitution were in conflict.
“It is not our role to lend legitimacy to such transparent and untimely efforts to subvert the will of Pennsylvania voters,” Justice David Wecht, a Democrat, wrote.
Chief Justice Thomas Saylor, a Republican, wrote that throwing out votes at this point was extreme and untenable: “There has been too much good-faith reliance, by the electorate, on the no-excuse mail-in voting regime created by Act 77.”
If you don’t support voter ID? Then there is no possible way to give a satisfactory answer to your question.
And the Libertarians Liberals and left don’t support voter ID. Just as they don’t support National borders which would require you to have a photo ID. To be able to enter the country.
The act of verifying a photo ID and voter identification starts a paper trail process. Which has been eliminated because requirements for photo ID and voter verifications have been eliminated.
And this is enough proof for many people to support the idea of a “great divorce” in this country.
Even honest Libertarians have been asking why is it that Washington is telling people thousands of miles away. In Idaho or Wyoming what to do, and what not to do, with their land.
If the states don’t have the same or similar voting identification laws then there is no difference to the above statement. Why should another state believe that the vote was done fairly, accurately, correctly, honestly, in another state?
And then that state be forced to follow the dictates of a Winning State.
South Dakota didn’t lock down their state. But California did lockdown. And now the power structure in California wants to shut down the oil pipeline business in South Dakota. Using the power structure thru D.C. to Destroy the economy of South Dakota. That is part of the results of the current election.
That’s very interesting Chris T,
I’m Libertarian and have always been a staunch supporter of both voter ID and secure borders. Every Libertarian I know agrees 100% with comprehensive voter ID, exhaustive border and port security, and equitably circumscribed immigration.
But, since you have you pronounced that we don’t actually believe what we believe- does that mean I’m incorrect about knowing what I know?
What an extraordinarily curious dilemma we have here- am I what I know I am? Do I believe what I actually believe? Or am I what Chris T decrees that I am? Hmm…
It’s not my place to make up others’ minds for them, so… you’ll have to either choose to believe Chris T…
Or believe me.
to Peter Gunn
I don’t see the things you now claim the Libertarians support being advocated for in public.
I don’t know of any with the possible exception of Rand Paul. He differs from his father Ron Paul.
Where do you live? Where I use to live, California, they stopped requiring voter ID. Years before it was officially made not required.
By reading the words of Libertarians I have gotten the impression that they are simply globalists/ internationalists who want to smoke dope.
Currently Libertarians complain loudly about police unions and teachers unions. But I have I have yet to read of them complaining about President Kennedy’s executive order allowing all federal employees to unionize.
I know they talked about the federal government encroaching into people’s lives. And I think they should talk about it. But it’s individual government union workers who are doing these things. And I rarely see Libertarians refer to government workers as tyrants.
I suggest you find and listen to President Eisenhower’s final address. It’s about 15 minutes long. He discusses a lot of things that are very dangerous to the United States. It’s not just the “military industrial complex” that so many people complain about.
I’m a native Floridian, but did live in South Carolina for a few years. I am a proud Southerner (which I guess I’ll have to clarify due to abject incognizance and calculated distortion), which means I was raised with ethics, morals, and principles, I was taught manners (and required to use them), I was taught common decency, to respect others, to respect others’ opinions, and to accept that people are genuinely constituted by their character- you truly are what you say, do, and believe.
I have always been surrounded by “conservative” thought- which I agree with in many applications, but from my earliest years I perceived the callousness, depravity, and spitefulness of partisanship. Virtue, actuality, legitimacy and propriety are not possessed by any one “faction”- they are concepts that are independent of any group, party, religion, etc., and they are made manifestly apparent when consciously put into practice. By anyone.
This is why I take such exception to being labeled, pronounced, decreed, pigeonholed, or painted with a broad brush as to what someone else “defines” me to be. Doing so is decidedly disingenuous. My principles would never allow me to unequivocally endorse every assertion made by any political party- no matter what party. Blind allegiance (to anything) is foolhardy at best, cataclysmic at worst. I support following principles, ethics, integrity, honesty, and equanimity- and so correspondingly choose only to support individuals who exemplify these same convictions. It is the antithesis of partisanship.
It is for these reasons I do not always have a candidate to vote for. It is anathema to me even consider voting for a “lesser of evils”… less evil is still evil. I simply refuse to stand and be counted as a willing supporter and collaborator of anyone who can only be deemed as “less sinful” than the other options. I will never choose to forsake my principles in order to participate in a vote. But I will steadfastly defend someone else’s choice to do whatever they feel is best for them. I do not claim to know what’s better for someone else.
The Libertarian philosophy most closely represents my personal beliefs of how a system of thought should be- objective, rational, equitable, non-judgmental, peaceful, respectful, etc. Because of this I have better luck finding Libertarian candidates to vote for, but that does not mean I would only vote Libertarian (or vote at all)- someone has to earn my vote by their words, actions, and beliefs… that’s the only delineation that truly matters to me.
But that’s just me.
We have voter ID, one must show state issued photo ID when they register to vote or else they are not allowed to register.
And registered voters receive but one vote, if there’s a question one files a provisional ballot and is given the opportunity to prove who they are with state issued photo ID.
Who, exactly, is “we”? It sure as hell doesn’t include me.
I hadn’t voted in a Presidential election in 36 years, then decided to do so simply out of disgust. I submitted a mailed request for registration that required absolutely NO PERSONAL FORM OF ID WHATSOEVER, other than a spot on a form requesting my NJ drivers license number and SSN. I own a home and mortgage, and have paid taxes in the district I reside in for the last two decades. I mailed the form and received an voter ID number back from the County Clerk in order to complete an ONLINE PROCESS to get my mail-in ballot.
No one, AT ANY POINT, asked to visually verify my real identity – not even when I submitted the mail-in ballot at the polling station near my house. When I OFFERED my driver’s license and passport with a picture, NO ONE CARED.
I walked the ballot in, signed the register book, and walked out in 10 minutes.
The claim “you have to show ID to vote” is BULLSH*T. Everything I did was e-verify.
Thanks for sharing John! Liberty until death.
This is spot on.
Revolutionaries make real changes or die trying.
Larpers achieve nothing and get arrested.
Just because it’s not time for a revolution, or you’re unprepared for one, is no excuse to larp. All risk. No reward.
Stay home unless it’s war. If It’s war then fight to win and not for memes, narratives, or to make the news.
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