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Dan called from the car to report that CBS Radio News reports that the Secret Service intercepted a ricin-laced letter sent to the President. confirms that the missive’s identical to the one mailed to Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Authorities previously revealed that the two Bloomberg letters were post-marked Shreveport, Louisiana.

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    • Apparently, very unoriginal False Flags as well. Is Hollywood really writing the feds play book now? Nobody new what ricin was before Breaking Bad and now that the vote-drones at home are familiar with it, its suddenly the favored weapon for the extreme right against the valiant anointed few in the high halls.

      • Bloomberg, MAIG, BHO and their messages were becoming irrelevant.

        What better way to move them back to the relevancy column again than to make them victims based on their so called convictions on gun confiscation oops I mean control.

        With the letters, if one of the attempts had succeeded, how much you wanna bet the new push by the grabbers would be to pass gun control because a passionate grabber was killed by a diabolical demon gun nut; so no gun owner can be trusted.

        It’s just too convenient; a win/win either way for the grabbers.

        We already know the grabbers will go to any ends to succeed with their ultimate confiscation agenda..

        • I agree. The far left probably crafted and sent these letters because they can’t get gun confiscation passed.

    • For the love of focking God… that term doesn’t even apply here, even if the President and Bloomy mailed these to themselves. You conspiracy theorists are the most unoriginal, emotionally stunted, logic deprived people on Earth. Do you genuinely believe that bad people never do bad things? Do terrorists and criminals even exist outside of the shadow governments and organizations that you’re so afraid of?

      I would not be blown away if this was some pro-gun control idiot setting out to make us all look like gun nuts. Then again I wouldn’t be surprised if it would some back woods retard that actually fits the description “gun nut”. Either way, it is not a massive conspiracy. It is not a government lead false flag.

      The fact that you jumped to this conclusion apropos of nothing at all leads me to believe you have no interest in evidence. Now, if you need me I’ll be over here in reality. Feel free to join me any time.

      • @ Blinky
        The ONLY way to be certain of anything is if the bad actor(s) are tracked down, which I truly hope they are.

        Then all the theories may be disproven except for one; that the person or persons are sociopaths.

        • Conspiracy theories can’t be disproven. By their very design they function in vacuums and don’t require evidence.

          That said, I agree. No matter what this douche bag’s motivation I really hope they catch him/her/them.

      • Yo, room for one more?

        This is likely the work of one lunatic, pro- or anti-gun, but it is not a government conspiracy.

        And, if we are to indulge in conspiracy, why wouldn’t they use a sniper using an “assault weapon” who takes out a low level MAIG staffer, creating a martyr, instead of low grade ricin?

        In any group of more than three, let alone the millions of 2A supporters, there will be at least one a$$-hole. This could be that guy and us going full infowars crazy is not going to help.

        • I agree; never even considered a government borne conspiracy.

          However extremist fanatic borne effort of one flavor or another, absolutely!

        • The greatest trick the Devil played was to convince Man he did not exist. Government conspiracies don’t exist… until they do.

        • Joe – Government conspiracies do exist. Know how I know? Because there is evidence. Watergate, the Holocaust, even small ones like Operation Merlin. All of these legitimate conspiracies leave behind mountains of evidence, witnesses and whistle blowers.

          Compare that to what we have here: a bunch of idiots on the internet assuming this is a false flag with zero evidence what-so-ever. See the difference?

        • You people really havent a clue of what the govt. is capable of and lets be blunt, they know how to get away with anything they choose to!

        • Right, Jarhead, they can get away with anything they choose to. Except the whole WMD thing. And Cheney’s hunting accident. And Clinton’s blowjob. And the IRS auditing teaparty groups. And Watergate. And pretty much the entire Reagan administration. And thousands of other well known and documented government scandals and attempted cover-ups.

          Those that are able should think before they speak or type. Those that aren’t shouldn’t.

        • Geez, there is an old saying and it is indeed a physical, irrefutable fact, if you see one cockroach in the open, there are hundreds if not thousands more in the woodwork.

          So you go on believing what you want, as recognizing that government has its fair share of morons, there is no physical way they could hide everything, due to their egos and low intellect being supercharged by ultimate power trips, hence your list of what is known .

        • Jarhead, that list was off the top of my head. Google Government Scandal for a long exhaustive list. Your cockroach analogy doesn’t work here – you’re saying if you see one cockroach there’s a race of superhuman lizard people that you can’t see.

          While you’re at it, you can also research actual conspiracies; you may find that they’re distinctly different from the Hollywood fodder you and your friends have bought into.

      • Why would someone send poisoned letters to these figureheads when the laws didn’t pass?

        • Dude, are you really questioning why a crazy person would do a crazy thing?

          Hint: The answer is crazy.

        • I’m still figuring out who appointed Blinky to fix the Internet today. Shut the fvck up. Seriously.

    • Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions. Its not like there aren’t idiots on both sides of the political spectrum. This could easily be exactly what it appears to be.

      If we want to avoid association with this we best be condemning it and not falsely accusing the victims of setting it up to make us look bad!

      • Exactly, there are idiots on both sides. Like the ones claiming we were paranoid because Obama would never come for our guns. He said so himself in 2008. Or it was not a terrorist attack, it was a YouTube video. Then you have the other side who thinks every single thing is a conspiracy including 9/11.

    • All that time and effort to make Ricin and the time would have been better spent on making some Troll-Be-Gone.

      This comment was in reply to low budget dave. Why it got sent here is a mystery.

  1. Like Superintendent Chalmers of the Springfield School District would say to a certain Springfield principal, “BLOOM-BERRRRRG!!!!”

  2. Too damned convenient for words. Got to be the next phase in the disarmament fight.

  3. I am so sure this was some anti-gun whack job who knows how to feed the media/hysteria machine..and what better way to paint all gun owners as the “racist terrorist” we all really are. I have a feeling very little will be done to find out who did this if they suspect or find out it was an anti-gun nut. It will just quietly go away, just a small misunderstanding. If some gun rights moron did this, we will never hear the end of it. And it will be used to push more legislation. Terror in the mail is one of those “hot button” that gets people all riled up.

  4. This can only end badly.

    Obama and slave states will push harder. Freedom lovers and freedom states will push harder.

    Civil war is in the air folks.

  5. If this is “real”, everyone in our community needs to be vigilant and FIND the sociopath who is doing this. I don’t care who you are or what you believe, this crap is unacceptable!

    • I wonder how many people said that after Lexington and Concord. Not saying you’re wrong; but if a tyrant really is depriving us of our rights, are we supposed to just take it forever? If you concede that there is some theoritical point where tyrannicide is appropriate, are we all supposed to magically reach that conclusion at exactly the same time? If this guy has decided its time, by what standard am I to conclude that he’s not only wrong but that it’s my job to stop him? I’ve got things to do.

      • We have not even begun to even tap into let alone exhaust the vast variety of non-violent ways of fighting this.

        • And the actor in question disagrees with you. Please connect the dots for me, answer my questions and support your assertion: Why does “everyone in our community need[] to be vigilant and FIND the sociopath who is doing this”? Like I said, I have a lot of other things to do.

          BTW, please let me know what you’ve done so far to look for him. If I find your resposne persuasive I’ll want to make sure I don’t duplicate any of your efforts.

        • For the same reason the black community should reject serial dead-beat fathers. If the person that sent this letter is a gun owner they are a tumor that needs to be excised.

          And he obviously didn’t mean go out and look for him. He meant that clowns like this rarely keep their mouths shut. Whoever he/she/they mention this to should inform the authorities and reject this kind of behavior.

        • Duke, I’m not saying it is our responsibility to “find them”, but if your neighbor is bragging about doing it maybe look into it. That’s a pretty low bar for civic involvement.

      • Totally. It’s time for revolution, and ricin is going to lead the way with a pack of internet warriors trailing behind it.

        Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

      • “but if a tyrant really is depriving us of our rights, are we supposed to just take it forever?”

        According to people like Don, yes. They believe that there is never, ever any excuse for standing up to your masters and that you need to be a good little peasant and take whatever beatings they give you and say “Thank you, gracious master, for not killing me”.

        • Yup, totally what he’s saying. I mean, just look at Martin Luther King Jr. He tried using non-violence and that didn’t work, so instead he amassed an army of overweight people from the internet, overthrew the South and got what he wanted.

          Do you ever look back on your comments and wonder what you were thinking when you wrote them?

        • “but if a tyrant really is depriving us of our rights, are we supposed to just take it forever?”

          According to people like Don, yes. They believe that there is never, ever any excuse for standing up to your masters and that you need to be a good little peasant and take whatever beatings they give you and say “Thank you, gracious master, for not killing me”.

          ^ This x infinity

        • Oh get bent Totenglocke, with your slave crap. If you are out of good ideas beyond something as idiot-simple as violence then it’s you who are a slave to your own lack of ideas.

          “People like Don” put a ton of my own money and time behind pro-gun causes, especially in recent months. I’ve come up with ways to reach out to non-gun acquaintances and get them out on the range, let them shoot my ammo, enjoy my firearms, teach them safety, and making them stop being afraid of guns. I’ve spent countless hours on dispelling anti-gun myths to people who are genuinely on the fence and find me approachable enough to ask gun-related questions. I’m making support for our side and being a good representative for us while doing it.

          You’re smoldering and alienating your own side, ejaculating slave rhetoric on people who are doing more than you for your own cause. The anti’s have been subtly poking us with a stick to get a rise out of us they can then point to us in a negative light and you’re dancing on their cue. I get it, you’re bored and wishing you can whack the problem with the one tool you have in your kit. Maybe you resent “people like Don” because when we are successful you won’t have a chance to perform your one trick. But slaves, we are not. Defiance is a virtue and takes many forms, ignorant belligerence is not a virtue and always takes the form of blunted stupid.

        • Don, you openly said that we should just keep talking and hoping that they’ll respect our rights, yet we’ve been doing that for EIGHTY YEARS and it hasn’t made one bit of difference.

          You can make all the excuse you want, but when your only solution is to keep doing what’s been proven to fail for almost a century, you are part of the problem because you will never, ever have the spine to do what is necessary when the time comes. If another civil war breaks out, you’d be actively attacking the very people fighting to restore your freedom because you’re just too damn scared to do anything other than talk.

          Also, it’s rather telling that the only person supporting your position is an anti-gun troll.

        • “Don, you openly said that we should just keep talking and hoping that they’ll respect our rights, yet we’ve been doing that for EIGHTY YEARS and it hasn’t made one bit of difference.”

          Congrats moron – this, including every conspiracy theory post, is the stupidest thing I’ve read today. Have you not been paying attention? The past 30 years have had some of the best victories our side has ever seen. We are getting stronger, and aside from brief surges, they are getting weaker. Care to tell me what role violence played in any of those victories?

          “If another civil war breaks out, you’d be actively attacking the very people fighting to restore your freedom because you’re just too damn scared to do anything other than talk.”

          Yes, and the epic power behind your message board postings proves to me that you’d be one of the brave defenders.

          “Also, it’s rather telling that the only person supporting your position is an anti-gun troll.”

          Hmmm… is that directed at me? Then why are there all these scary black guns in my house? Why did I move from my home state to a free state? And who the heck signed my up for this NRA thing?

          You’re a divisive, pathetic nothing. There are idiots on this board, and there are anit-gunners on this board, but I can only think of one idiot that does far, far more damage to 2A activism than MikeyB could ever hope.

        • Toten,

          Because someone chimes in support for one point I make that they agree with doesn’t mean that I’m in their camp. At all.

          Secondly, I haven’t been fighting this for 80 years. I’ve been fighting it for about 20 years. I’ve voraciously consumed all of the history and rhetoric from our side and theirs. I’ve seen our side do a few dumb things and I’ve seen their side do a few smart things.

          Here’s the thing. What their side has resorted to is a psyop. They are trying to marginalize us, make our views look marginalized, prevent people from seeing that we are (typically) not the stereotype most convenient to their operation. We need to fight psyop with psyop. The biggest advance they can make is for us to become the self-fulfilling stereotype. The biggest hit we put on the horse they’ve bet on is to peel back the delusion they are weaving so they look like the liars they are. I’m not afraid to take them on in this complicated way. I’m not afraid that they will beat me with their misinformation campaign.

          And I’ve seen the effect on people. I roll up to a party full of happy hippies and start hanging out. I impress them with my compassion and empathy. I get them all whipped up on their “go local” and “community rights” and “grow your own food” philosophy. We bash the FDA’s regulation of raw milk and talk about how scary the militarized police are and things like that that they care about, and then gently generalize these ideas toward the philosophy of individual responsibility, freedom, individual rights, and government over-reach into our personal affairs. I get them talking about some medatative exercise they like, like yoga or something, and I slide into the meditative nature of the activities I like, shooting. I take these two points of common ground and then surprise them that I am a die hard carry everywhere gun guy. At this point they get more curious than afraid or angry. I’m a person they like, and I believe in gun rights. I’ve done this countless times in countless groups of people moving through my area. I’ve taken these people to the range and opened their minds to who we actually are, and in SEVERAL cases helped them select their first firearms. You want to win the debate, then you want to get more voices on your side, not fewer.

          Slave. HA. I’ve never followed a rule about ANYTHING I’ve felt unjust or unethical. All I know is I can find a way to convert a lot of people who are on the fence or who are against us but simply have not thought much about it. I can fight the anti’s on all different kinds of playing fields and I’m sure as hell going to pick the ones that are most advantageous for my side winning and if that means trying harder intellectually then I’m going to do it. I’m sure as hell not going to fight them on the playing field that they’re just WISHING they can prod me into if that is not an advantage to me.

          So maybe you don’t agree with me, but frankly, I haven’t read about you in the news yet, so what are you doing?

    • Don’t believe it’s someone in “our community” this is not how our side does things, now the other side running this type of thing as a false flag opp.

      • Are you not reading the other comments from folks in your community? If the conspiracy theorists aren’t babbling about false flags they’re masturbating to a violent, armed revolution.

        The vast majority of gun owners are good peeps, but I gotta tell you, this is totally the way some people do things.

        • Since you use “your” community, I assume you don’t consider yourself one of us. I hope your homework is enjoyable.

        • You must be some kind of detective in real life – well played!

          I am happily not the member of the conspiracy community… my triple digit IQ precludes me from joining.

        • triple digit IQ

          Since one of those digits is after the decimal point, I remain unimpressed.

        • That joke might be funny if IQ scores actually had decimal points.

          Congratulations. You’re finally the first at something.

    • How do I “find him”? I suspect the Secret Service has a little more on the ball in this area. Come to think about it, they probably have some poor sap from Shreveport already lined up to take the fall.

      • Like McVeigh…..

        Doubt this?

        How come he was executed so quickly when hundreds of others are on Death Row for decades?

        • The neat thing about the interwebs is they give you the opportunity to find answers before you find yourself asking a stupid question.

          Most death row inmates are at the state level, and the time from conviction to execution varies hugely. Federal death row is far less busy – there are only five people there now, the earliest conviction is from 2005 (and that was an appeal heavy case). The past three executions of note, including McVeigh, averaged about 6 years from conviction to execution. Much quicker than the states generally do.

          Further research (and all this took be about five minutes) indicates McVeigh dropped all his appeals and was rather eager to die. He was also eager to take responsibility for what he did. In fact, his initial defense was that he had to do what he did to defend himself against government tyrant. Almost sounds like some other people I know.

          Oh, and also, he killed 168 people, including a bunch of children. People like that are generally fast tracked.

          All this kind of makes me wonder A)what your point was and B) What they’re teaching today in special ed.

        • BlinkeyPete – +1.5 Spot on.

          Knowing some on McVeigh’s defense team, McVeigh was (1) a “volunteer,” who declined to move forward on appeals, and (2) the Feds run a faster track than state courts do.

          Occam’s Razor – The simplest explanation is most often the most correct.

      • You have more faith in the SS than I do I guess. But if you have a neighbor bragging about what they did maybe dig into that a little bit. Again, if this is “real” as in not propaganda, not a false flag.

  6. It might be a guy on our side who lost his mind, but I doubt it.

    More likely it will turn out to be a left wing nut trying to drum up support, or “the perpetrator was never found”.

    • I doubt it too. Doing something like this is so outside of even our fringe, especially since it does nothing but hurt us, our image, our cause.

      But I don’t know if the anti-gun fringe would do it either. I could EASILY see some anti-USA terrorist doing it because they know it will induce great conflict and cause more political deadlock and degradation.


      • I’m leaning toward the idea of an outsider trying to turn us on each other as well… it’s far easier to bring a nation down from within.

    • I doubt it. All the emotion was lost and they need emotion to gain support and this is their latest trick.

  7. I just can’t trust anything anymore..and I am sure more “incidents” or “attacks” will happen with all the convenient evidence of an gun-owning anti-government constitution respecting racist being right there and handed out to all media outlets as fast as possible. Christ, I sound like a conspiracy nut now..yet they are the ones who targeted conservative groups for intimidation and whatever else the IRS does..
    This will never end, but I will fight it with my vote and supporting pro-rights organizations forever.

  8. Or like the case with the anthrax letters….

    Scientist concluded that it came from one particular strain from one particular research facility. A specific scientist was “under suspicion” but nothing came of it until one day there is a 8 second blurb abou5 how this particular scientist is dead or killed himself (yeah right) & no I hing else of the matter is ever heard about again…. I am rollong my eyes at the moment, just so ya know.

  9. None of the ricing letters actually reached the intended recipients. Lesson learned — use FedEx.

        • Exactly – Not only is there all kinds of screening since 9/11 and the Anthrax letters, but for purely logistical reasons there’s no way that any president in the last 150 years has actually been opening his own mail!

        • Anon in CT, I know that Biden personally opens every letter he receives that’s written in crayon.

  10. It pushes the Pro-slavery movement and gives The Press an excuse to stop covering the IRS, Bengazi, AP, Holder Lies scandal.
    Very Convienent

    • The political watchers have been discussing today why Holder has been kept on staff since he’s become such a multi-scandal lightning rod.

      • Dude, did you ever pay attention to politics before BHO? The Bush Administration was rife with scandal. It’s not unique to this president.

        • Scandals are not unique to any administration, but the Obama admin is Nixonian in it’s sweep and vision. Right down to the enemies list and paranoia about leaks. And while Nixon wanted to use the IRS politically, Obama actually did.

          The main difference in public reactions is that the MSM hated Nixon while they have deified Obama.

        • That’s a bit of a non sequitur. I mention the oddity of holding onto a specific lead weight staffer, and your first thought is: Bush Did It!


        • Hey BlinkyPete, your bias progressiveness liberalism elitism ignorance hatred is showing….

        • Lol… whaaa??? Oh wait, I get it RTK… if you can’t come up with a logical argument against someone else’s position simply accuse them of being hateful or progressive, or liberal!

          To be clear, my comment was distinctly unbiased. I said that every single administration has had scandals, and this event isn’t evidence of some kind of cover-up.

        • But bias is a whole lot different than a massive coordinated cover up.

          Right, because the media would never think of doing that for Obama. Not like it hasn’t happened in the last year or anything.

        • Ok Leo, show me one example of the entire media covering up something for BHO in a unified, coordinated effort. Just one.

      • HB – Where exactly did I say “Bush did it?” Bush did what? I pointed out that there have been scandals with every modern administration, and key members are rarely forced to resign.

        Ralph – I agree in regards to the medias response and treatment, but little else. Further, Bush got quite a few years of generous treatment from the MSM in the name of the safety and the WOT. It wasn’t until it became clear we’d gone to war with Iraq over nothing, the mission wasn’t accomplished and Katrina that he truly fell out of their good graces.

        • But he did fall out of their good graces, while Obama reads their mail and the MSM kisses his @ss.

        • There’s no question there’s a liberal bias in the MSM; there are plenty of polls and other evidence to show that. But bias is a whole lot different than a massive coordinated cover up.

        • But bias is a whole lot different than a massive coordinated cover up.

          Correct. Bias is what the media does. Massive cover-up is the prerogative of this administration.

        • Yes. Barry invented the cover up, and he’s in with the lizard people and Zog. They run the world, I tells ya!

  11. Lel.

    Cnn comments are all “dumbasses, don’t they know letters don’t go directly to president. It seems palin and her militia are at it again!!!”

    Man, it’s almost depressing the amount of stupid the other side contains.

  12. I think this makes things much more interesting. It’s one thing for Bloomberg to order his minions to stand down and allow it to go ‘unsolved.’ It’s a whole different thing for Obama to order the FBI and Secret Service to stand down and allow it to go ‘unsolved.’

    Leaving it unsolved is useful because you get to smear the tens of millions of gun owners with it. BUT….

    On the other hand, if it’s not a false flag, I believe the FBI and SS will get their guy. In which case you have a guilty party in hand who gets put on trial in a court of law and held accountable. In effect clearing the tens of millions of gun owners. In theory at least, we all know they’ll still blame all of us for it.

  13. TO: All
    RE: It’s a Set-Up!

    Everyone with more than two synapses to rub together KNOWS that all of these high-level persona and organizations are protected by security measures to detect such attacks.

    The only people that would send them to such are agents provacteur.

    We’re talking Reichstag Fire here.


    [Be Prepared…..]