President Joe Biden is at it again. He’s throwing out wild and unfounded lies to scare Americans into supporting his push for an unconstitutional ban on modern sporting rifles (MSRs). If that’s not outlandish enough, he continues to antagonize and threaten war against American citizens simply for exercising their Constitutionally-protected rights.
As the president likes to say, “I’m not joking.”
His latest claim was yet another attempt to malign and villainize MSRs.
“Do you realize the bullet out of an AR-15 travels five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun?” President Biden asked of the crowd in Wilkes-Barre, Pa.
Not true. First, President Biden fails to understand the difference between firearms and ammunition. The firearm, like an MSR which comes chambered in many different calibers, doesn’t determine the muzzle velocity of the projectile fired from the gun.
MSRs are commonly chambered to fire 5.56mm/.223 caliber ammunition. Those rounds travels between 2,700-3,100 feet per second (fps), an easily-verifiable fact that Fox News was able to uncover.
Fox and Breitbart both cited a Field & Stream report that examined bullet speeds of some of the fastest cartridges on the market used for hunting. Here’s what they found:
- .220 Swift — A 40-Grain .220 Swift round moves approximately 4,300 fps.
- .257 Weatherby Magnum — An 87-Grain .257 Weatherby Magnum round moves approximately 3,700+ fps.
- .30/378 Weatherby — A 165-Grain .30/378 Weatherby round moves approximately 3,400+ fps.
- .224 Clark — An 80-Grain .224 Clark round moves approximately 3,500+ fps.
- .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer — A 50-Grain .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer round moves approximately 4,600 fps.
The 55-grain round from a 5.56/.223 caliber didn’t even crack the list. That’s not all though. President Biden repeated other debunked claims.
![Joe Biden Angry](https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/AP22101704669423-1-700x467.jpg)
Cannons & 9mm
“You can’t go out and buy a cannon,” President Biden said in his Pennsylvania speech. It’s a throwaway line for him and one that’s patently false. He’s previously added in that Americans couldn’t buy cannons at the time the nation was founded.
Even The Washington Post gave him Four Pinocchios for that one, and no one looks to that news outlet to be defender of gun rights.
That ranks up there with his previous claim that a 9mm cartridge “will blow the lungs out of a body.” Breitbart fact-checked that with a retired Navy SEAL, someone who might understand terminal performance of bullets on the human body.
The answer: “No way.”
That was backed up by a federal agent with 15 years of experience. His answer – “bullsh*t.”
A 20-year federal agent told Breitbart it was “Not possible.” A 21-year-veteran of a U.S. Marshal fugitive recovery taskforce revealed, “That’s not even in the realm of possibility.”
President Biden’s firearms bona fides are looking suspect.
Deer & Constitutional Rights
“How many deer or bear are wearing Kevlar vests, huh?” President Biden asked deridingly. Again. “Not a joke.”
Last time we checked, none. That doesn’t explain, though, why many states continue to bar deer hunting with a 5.56mm/.223 caliber cartridge. Twelve states bar hunting with an AR-15 altogether and at least another 10 have restrictions on hunting with AR-15. The list cited didn’t include Virginia, which restricts AR-15s chambered in 5.56mm/.223 cartridge for deer hunting because the round isn’t considered powerful enough for a humane harvest.
![Feral hog hunting hunt ar-15 MSR caliber](https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/BushmasterSSR2-700x394.jpg)
“But we let any stranger — an 18-year-old — walk in — a 20-year-old — and buy an AR-15,” President Biden also said.
That, of course, is just not true. Retail firearm purchases are only completed after an individual completes a Form 4473 and the retailer completes an FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) verification.
That statement also diminishes rights for adults fully-vested in their Constitutional rights. The president – who has sworn an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States – is claiming that only the rights he approves should apply. That’s not how our Constitution works.
Threats of War
The president’s antipathy toward Americans who exercise their Second Amendment rights didn’t end there.
“If you want to fight against a country, you need an F-15,” President Biden said. “You need something a little more than a gun. No, I’m not joking.”
![F15 fighter jet](https://cdn0.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/AP9101170646-1-700x383.jpg)
That statement was made after smearing those who remind the government the Second Amendment was written to prevent a tyrannical government from running roughshod over its citizens. For all the overheated rhetoric of media pundits frothing about a civil war, it seems strange that the president threatens the American public – about half of whom he called “semi-fascist” – with war.
NOW – Biden: “For those brave right-wing Americans… if you want to fight against the country, you need an F-15. You need something little more than a gun.” pic.twitter.com/ce3BJEEo7G
— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) August 30, 2022
It’s not the first time, either. He made a similar statement in June 2021.
“If you wanted or if you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons,” President Biden said in a White House speech.
Newsweek reported that the president’s latest flippant F-15 remark was already viewed over 2 million times in less than 24 hours, drawing the ire of critics.
As The Federalist’s senior legal correspondent Margot Cleveland tweeted, “So, ‘Safer America’ means, …checks notes: A government threatening its citizens with F-15s.”
So, “Safer America” means, …checks notes: A government threatening its citizens with F-15s. https://t.co/9gBHvYWDUk
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) August 30, 2022
The president’s loose grasp of facts, willful ignorance of constitutional rights, veiled threats and explicit insults are a recipe for failure. Instead of pledging to ban commonly-owned firearms, President Biden should be focused on locking up criminals, instead of winking-and-nodding at progressive prosecutors releasing them onto America’s streets.
Larry Keane is SVP for Government and Public Affairs, Assistant Secretary and General Counsel of the National Shooting Sports Foundation.
If he isn’t a Fascist I don’t know who is. Pure raw fascism. And those ss/antifa storm troopers enabling the groomers in Texas? Anybody going to claim they’re anything but Not Z’s?
Do I get half credit for being a “semi-fascist?”
I think everyone’s giving too much credit to Biden. It’s becoming clearer by the day that his handlers are pulling the strings and giving him his daily talking points. Soon we’ll be seeing a “Weekend at Bernie’s” situation.
Biden’s been blathering garbage about firearms for about as long as he’s been in politics. This isn’t much different from what he was saying back in the 90s around the time the Assault Weapon Ban passed.
Look fat, look, here’s the deal. You’re a lying, dog-faced pony solider. You gotta be honest. Before you came on here, you took a test where you’re taking cocaine or not, what do you think? Huh? Are you a junkie? See? That’s all me. No strings. No joke!
Attention little Jethro, listen up, and for others out there who are not products of higher education.
First – People with guns kill people. We can’t get rid of the people, but we can get rid of the guns. Therefore, we need to ban all guns. And who owns guns? Gun owners. Thus, gun owners are the problem. So stop acting like a victim when we go after you. You are the problem.
Second – in our quest to ban all guns while going after all gun owners, we can take some baby steps. One of those baby steps is – nobody needs a machine gun, AR15, AK47, or other assault style gun that are typically used as weapons of war in other countries. Get out your grandpas bolt gun “conservatives,” and start conserving your tradition of hunting. Stop buying guns that glorify violence and war, like M16, AK47 looking guns.
Third – check your privilege. If you are reading this “blog” or whatever it is, you are most likely, and I mean like 99%, a cisgendered heternormative straight white male of christian upbringing. And that means a stoichastic terrorist, that is so far right wing, and uneducated, that anything outside your immediate bubble requires your expressive bigotry. We are tired of it, and if we can’t ban you, we can ban your guns, your culture, your traditions, and your upbringing. And we are well on our way already.
Not bad fake dacian only tell on a quick scan was the cis heteronormative+ vocab word bonus point. Typically the ranting and raving can’t keep it’s buzzwords consistent let alone correctly used
Factually incorrect.
^ Fake dacian. You can tell because he sounds just like me, except without hiding the agenda.
Good one.
Fake or real? They’re identical.
White Devil here, come getcha some, man bun wearing sissy boy. Here it is, come and take it.
jwm,
That means the correct response is to always laugh.
jwm,
No, the dead giveaway is that fake dacian is usually coherent, mostly spells correctly, and usually gets sentence structure and grammar somewhere near correct. BOTH of these posts seem to be fake dacian . . . the REAL demented dips*** could not string together even a semi-coherent, somewhat grammatical, sentence (forget the spelling; dacian the demented dips*** can’t proofread).
Dude. I’ve referred to him as comic relief for a while now.
Soooooo, parody parity has been achieved? 🤔
James,
Part of our problem is that the Left has become impossible to parody. No matter how “out there” your parody is, the Left will seriously, unironically, some up with something more bats*** crazy.
Witness that many on the Left (and not a few on the Right) early on took Titania McGrath for being a “real” Leftist, posting “real” Leftist doctrine. That is a brilliant parody site . . . and the Leftist/fascists have already gone beyond every parody posted on that site.
Great to make fun of them, but parody is useless . . . they are a parody of themselves. I find outright mockery, with no subtlety, is best . . . subtlety goes *swiisssshhhhh* right over their heads.
Just call them retarded fascist dumb@$$es . . . short, punchy, accurate, insulting (actually, no . . . if it’s accurate, how can it be insulting?), but do NOT try to take them seriously. They are not serious people.
stoichastic
LoL 😂
nice touch.
🤣
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dacian the Dunderhead, You left out one very salient point. It is VIOLENT CROMNALS with guns that kill people. In fact although you allege this is a “fake dacian’, much of what he says is true and your real intent. To you, anti-gun radicals you want to make everywhere a “gun free zone”, where only the creatin criminals will be carrying guns.
another fake dacian post
We can tell, retard . . . the fake dacian can (mostly) spell and write a coherent, grammatical sentence. But thanks for playing, ‘tard. Tell us about all the “degrees” that make up your vaunted “education”, dacian the demented.
He’s a liar, and a rare one — both pathological and compulsive. If we add “habitual,” it’s the hat trick.
Way to go, Slow Joe! Pudding cup?
I hear sniffy Joe is gonna excoriate(look it up dims)all of us gat owner’s as maga boyz. As in “WE” are a threat. Slow Joe may get his wish fulfilled…
You mean they’re gonna throw us out of the Catholic church?
But I’m not Catholic.
He is a plagiarist. Enough said.
No, Don. He is also a pedophile, a serial child molester, a thief, a liar, a rapist, and a fascist. Those are kinda important, too.
Found a Tee in Bulleye Gun Shop in Murfreesboro, TN while taking training at Barrett last month that features a full BRIGHT HOT PINK bunny suit….ala Christmas Story…..centered on front of the OD green shirt with Slo Joe’s face placed in the head opening. Caption above the pic….”Come on, Man: Caption below pic, “It’ll blow your lung out!!” Snapped that up instantaneously…….
Biden: Republicans are calling for political violence.
Also Biden: You’re going to need an F-15 or something bigger than a gun.
Amazing that the lefties can threaten to nuke gun owners, burn down cities, shootup baseball games, threaten to assassinate justices and officials and literally see nothing at all wrong with that.
A rightie says maybe we shouldn’t be so cavalier with the aborting and he gets called every name in the book and threatened with violence from those very lefties.
“The president’s loose grasp of facts, willful ignorance of constitutional rights, veiled threats and explicit insults are a recipe for failure.”
You don’t get it yet, do you?? All of this gas-lighting is intentional. It has taken you a full column to refute his lies, a column that will be read beginning to end by maybe a thousand people. The lies will win out over the truth. He is telling people what they want to hear, and they will believe it. His gaslighting and misrepresentation of constitutional rights are, in fact, a recipe for electoral success, when the electorate are a mass of ignorant and uninformed useless eaters.
“…the electorate are a mass of ignorant and uninformed useless eaters.”
I invite you to watch any of Mark Dice’s “man on the street” YT videos in which he asks tourists and passersby on the beaches of San Diego their thoughts on a variety of topics. The level of ignorance is astounding.
Astounding … and frightening.
I Haz a Question,
I don’t know if it was Mark Dice:
I watched a video on a California beach where the interviewer (a man) is chatting with two women about equality–that there should be no difference of any sort between men and women. Of course the two
womenbimbos enthusiastically agreed.Then the interviewer asked the two bimbos if they were really, truly, actually committed to that equality concept. The bimbos agreed.
This is the good part: so the man says that women can gently squeeze a man’s chest and that is fine. (Think of a woman seeing a muscular man in a nightclub who then approaches the man and gently squeezes his chest while complimenting his physique.) The bimbos agree. Then the man demands to be able to gently squeeze their chests (their breasts of course since they are women) while complimenting them on their physique. The look on those two bimbo’s faces was priceless. At first they said no. So he reminded them of their commitment to equal treatment. The two bimbos then went back-and-forth with each other and finally agreed that, if they really are committed to equal treatment, that man must be able to gently squeeze their breasts. So they relented and gave the man permission to gently squeeze their breasts, which he was all too happy to do.
In my humble opinion, that video was far more effective at demonstrating how stunningly feeble-minded many people really are.
Yesterday I saw one of those man on the street videos and the guy was asking random people “What is the Queen of England the Queen of?” and none of them had any answer at all.
“If you wanted or if you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons,” President Biden said in a White House speech.
Uh, yeah like the nukes and F15s the pajama boys or the ragheads had…..
But that plane still has a pilot and ground crew.
Ever heard of harassing fire?
I used to check with a ballistics calculator the maximum range of some calibers. A .223 elevated to 30-35 degrees could travel about 2500 yards. A 30-cal could reach over 4000. Note these numbers are from my aging memory so YMMV.
Brits used to do that in WW1.
TRUTH AR AND AK SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN SOLD TO CIVILIANS , IT IS A GUN MADE FOR WAR TO KILL HUMANS , YES DOUBLE STANDARD I OWN A .223 , STILL I AGREE 10 ROUND MAGAZINE ENOUGH , IF USED FOR ETC .. DEER HUNTING IF CAN’T KILL GAME WITH 10 ROUNDS GIVE IT UP AND GO HOME , GO TO WALMART BUY YOUR MEAT .
HAVE SERVIED IN MILITARY AND COMBAT VETERAN .. OATH TO PROTECT OUR USA CONSTITUTION . HAVE YOU SERVED IN USA MILITARY . IF YES THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE , IF NOT ; WHY HAVE YOU NOT , ?
Because I don’t to be exposed to whatever toxin caused the brain damage you apparently suffer from.
He breathed deep while standing next to the burn pit
Carpet smoke and lacquer thinner fumes…
That boy right there is downright retarded, would be surprised if his IQ breaks the double digits barrier.
And he served alright, likely in the mess hall.
Your spoof of a Fudd is dead-on. Well done, the thread needed some humor.
No, I didn’t serve. They didn’t want me. Brain damage. How’d you get in?
Wouldn’t take me either. Mild asthma. Even though back then I could swim 50 laps of an Olympic pool in under an hour. 30 years on it is 40 laps.
D DD DD DDD DEEEEEEEEEEEUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Sarc? Needs work.
How about a Barrett M82A1. It has a 10 round mag. You cool with that? Didn’t think so.
The SHOUTING N.Texas moron probably has a beto yard sign.
For once I agree with Ntex about aks and ars not being sold to US citizens. I mean, if that’s what the troops are issued, we ought to get the same for free – anything else is just infringement, right ?
And ammo. Lots of free ammo.
Made to kill humans? What wasn’t made to kill humans? Do you have any idea how many things were created by man to simply kill each other?
Very doubtful of your veteran status and very certain of your lack of understanding of the Oath of Enlistment and the US Constitution.
If you did serve, probably some REMF nasty leg.
Virtually every caliber used has some ties to the military!!!!
So next step you’ll say 10rds is too many and demand 5rds and then you’ll demand 3rds and then you’ll demand 1rds and then you will demand 0rds and zero firearms!!!!
I wanted to join the military since I was a wee lad, but my hearing loss prevented me..
It was their biggest loss!!!
Took a test at the recruiting station, Army recruiter mentioned they would have recommended Army Intelligence for my service based in Germany..
But I wanted to be an infantryman with belt fed gun!!!!
My Dad Served in Vietnam Bud. 1st Air Cavalry. Part of THE FIRST TEAM yes they have it spelled like that on his certificate. And he Worked with more then just a rifle. Used the glorious PIG. And He NEVER called for any sort of ban or restriction. He Taught me how to fight because he knew the cancer was going to take him. Along apparently according to the docs agent orange was part of it as well. Your Mindset is not what i see coming from ACTUAL soldiers i have met. He understood the only counter balance to a tyrannical government or invading force is the ability to at least meet them somewhat equally on the field. Rather then being limited to bolt action and pump shotguns. Which by the way both have which been used in actual combat in actual armed forces. Compared to the dreaded AR-15 ya’ll scream over so much.
Ok wait. This was supposed to be a reply to NTexas dingaling up there.
F15 lol you got beat by a half naked guy in a Buffalo hat so …..
He is a moron and the whole world knows it. It’s why the Democrats used him as a last resort. His #2 isn’t any better. Giving the specs won’t mean anything to anyone but a handful of this sites readership. The Washington left does NOT care about the specs.
To whom it may concern:
He knows nothing about guns. To listen to him talk is going to mean your being lied to.
Have any of you read the text of HR 1808? It’s even worse than I imagined.
It bans safety features like “barrel shrouds” for both rifles and pistols, and then even goes on to define them as safety features! The bill’s definition of the banned “barrel shroud” is:
“a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel.”
Um, that’s a safety feature that’s been around for over 500 years, as long as hand-held guns have existed!
And it bans stocks that can be removed, “detachable stocks” — EVERY stock can be detached (removed), so HR 1808 bans all rifles!
I think this might be a clue that the bill will ban all take-down rifles.
They mentioned a few folding rifles by name, e.g. Kel-Tec Sub-2000,
but they don’t clarify whether the Ruger 10/22 Takedown is banned or not.
Then at the end there’s a list of guns that are “exempt” from the ban, and it’s basically a list of long-obsolete guns that have been out of production for decades. Just to give a few exmples from one company (Ruger), the bill graciously /sarc exampts the obsolete
“Ruger PC4,
Ruger PC9″ (not the Ruger PCC, but its predecessors that have been out of production for decades),
“Ruger Model 96/44 Lever Action”,
some 20 obsolete models of the Ruger M77,
“Ruger Red Label O/U Shotgun”
“Ruger Sporting Clays O/U Shotgun”
“Ruger Woodside Shotgun”
And of course the Savage Model 24 (which I wish was still around), and a bunch of high-end luxury over-and-under shotguns. Nothing with a design newer than 1940.
See https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808/text
Though being from the UK I am a supporter of tougher gun controls even in the uK considering the recent spate of shootings in the Home of the Beatles’ Liverpool I can sympathise with those that are not keen,to say the least, on Joe Biden.
How a great nation like the USA can elect a geriatric who seems tio have a loose grip on reality after electing an illiterate, mysogonistic, self absorbed narcicistic and insurrectionist [and now a possible traitor after the contents of his safe have been made public] is beyond the understanding of the rest of the world. But there agaiun RONALD REAGAN was in many ways on of the most successful President the USA has ever had at his grip on reality was just as loose at times as Biden’s, But like BIden it has given the people who really know what they are doing a chance.
The USA is a Democracy and if the citizen is not happy with government policies at least they can go to law.
As for the subject in hand I believe that law says that rifles under a certain calibre are not allowe for HUNTING some game. Am I correct?
Meanwhile my own feeling is that this furore is not really about HUNTING at all but an attempt to get round proposals on limiting SEMI-ATUTOMATIC RIFLES. Why would anybodyb want very high velocity ‘semi-autos’ for hunting is a mystery to me. So let’s face it it’s just a lot a of childish Dick-Swinging.
Recently I accessed an assessment by professional HUNTERS of the TOP TEN hunting rifle new to the market and presently on sale in the USA. Guess what?? NOT A SEMI-AUTO in sight they were ALL 3/5 shot bolt action.
THe fact is that nobody who calls themselves a HUNTER needs anything more than a decent 5 shot bolt action of a suitable and legal calibre. I do not know what the hiting power of a legal cartridge is but I do know what the effect of the 7.62 NATO is with a MV of around 3000FPS and that cartridge will take down any land animal on Earth penetrate a 13” brick wall and 30” of oak and theoretically NINE MEN IN A ROW.
One shot anywhere in the THORAX of a horse at 400mtrs wiill drop it stone dead and that HAS been tested of the Wild Horses of Australia [the BRUMBIES/
yes, but you forget one thing. The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting. Hunting and self-defense, were not even assumed to be an issue when our country was founded. It was self evident that we would have those rights.
The 2nd amendment is so we can kick an illegitimate government should it become tyrannical. A government would be tyrannical if it were to, for example, attempt to subvert the constitution of the United States.
So, for that reason alone, a 3000 fps is just fine by me.
sir albert of nuttingham…What’s the difference between you and bag of manure? Nothing, nothing at all.
bags
The difference is the bags.
“…[and now a possible traitor after the contents of his safe have been made public]…”
Like Al Capone’s vault — and your cranium — the safe was empty.
“The USA is a Democracy …”
No, it’s a Constitutional Republic.
“As for the subject in hand …”
The subject of this column is NOT hunting.
…”I believe that law says that rifles under a certain calibre are not allowe [sic] for HUNTING some game.”
We have 50 states. The laws vary depending on the state. This concept is too complicated for your understanding.
“Meanwhile my own feeling is …”
… not germane to this discussion, as you are not an American and do not understand very much about our country.
“…this furore [sic] is not really about HUNTING at all but an attempt to get round proposals on limiting SEMI-ATUTOMATIC RIFLES.”
Half credit — this discussion is not about hunting; it’s about a wanna-be fascist pResident who constantly lies about firearms and gun laws and holds opinions on such that are diametrically opposed to the views of the majority of the population.
“Why would anybodyb [sic] want very high velocity ‘semi-autos’ for hunting is a mystery to me.”
Many things American are a mystery to you — that’s nothing new. Perchance, by “very high velocity” weapons, did you mean the AR-15 that shoots bullets that “travel(s) five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun” as our brain-dead lying White House occupier believes?
“Recently I accessed an assessment by professional HUNTERS of the TOP TEN hunting rifle new to the market and presently on sale in the USA.”
I have such an article right here: https://www.outdoorlife.com/gear/best-rifles/
“Guess what?? NOT A SEMI-AUTO in sight …”
False. Smith & Wesson M&P15 Volunteer XV-Pro 14.5 Specs. Action: Semi-auto
Here’s another historical list: https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/top-10-hunting-rifles/
No. 5: Ruger 10/22; semi-automatic, rotary magazine.
“I do not know what the hiting [sic] power of a legal cartridge is …”
Again, there is much that you do not know, but it doesn’t prevent you from making outlandish statements. That’s one reason that you have little credibility among the readership here.
alien,
Didn’t realize that “little” was a synonym for “none”. Others have suggested it, so I (painfully) paid attention to Albert the Fake-Limey Ponce’s pontifications for a couple of weeks – he ain’t a Brit (that he was not a “military arms trainer” was obvious from the beginning). He’s probably a high school dropout, living in his mother’s basement, wanking to his posters of Mao and Che, and maintaining his delusions of gender.
The subject at hand is the proposed banning of a traditional type of weapon freely available to American Citizens since at least 1905.
Further, the lords and ladies of the UK, and those who have supported the post-WW1 disarming of the British yeoman, are just beginning to reap what they have sown…
The 2A was meant to eradicate your kind from our Continent. It is not about hunting.
You are not historically or culturally aware are you?
An upswing in gun crime in the UK?
It must be those landed gentry grouse shooting types killing inner city urban youth.
BTW, your velocity number for 7.62NATO is too fast by about 300-400fps. 3000fps is in 5.56 territory. A .30-06 would be about 2700-2800 fps.
Your knowledge of firearms rivals my knowledge of Meso-american pottery shards.
Yep your relatives in the past begged the USA for arms, need to read up your British history…
So I assume were you went to school they didn’t teach British History or anything about WW2!!!!
It was American bodies and weapons that saved you from permanently speaking GERMAN…
“….high velocity ‘semi-autos’ for hunting is a mystery to me………”
There is a picture in the article that explains it.
The USA is not and never has been a democracy. It’s a representative republic that utilizes the democratic process for some of its functions. Also, being a Pom, you may be aware of Sir Winston’s opinion of a democracy?
“… I do know what the effect of the 7.62 NATO is with a MV of around 3000FPS and that cartridge will take down any land animal on Earth penetrate a 13” brick wall and 30” of oak and theoretically NINE MEN IN A ROW.
One shot anywhere in the THORAX of a horse at 400mtrs wiill drop it stone dead and that HAS been tested of the Wild Horses of Australia …” — TTaG
commenterMORON Alber L J HallA popular and representative 7.62 x 51mm NATO (civilian designation “.308 Winchester”) cartridge has a 150 grain bullet and a muzzle velocity around 2820 feet-per-second out of a 22-inch or 24-inch barrel. I will call that close-enough to Albert’s claim on velocity.
And that is where truth/accuracy ends in Albert’s claims regarding 7.62 NATO ballistics (including terminal ballistics). I cannot imagine a bullet from that cartridge penetrating 13 inches of brick, nor 30 inches of oak. (I suppose a full-metal-jacket “spitzer” bullet might be able to zip through nine men if they were very skinny and lined up just right.)
More importantly, a single shot “anywhere in the THORAX of a horse at 400mtrs” is anything but guaranteed to “drop it stone dead”–especially if that bullet is a full-metal-jacket spitzer bullet. I have personally witnessed hunters shoot several white-tailed deer in their thorax with .30 caliber, 150 grain bullets (and softpoint or hollowpoint hunting bullets at that) at distances within 100 yards and I have yet to see a deer “drop stone dead”. Instead, those deer invariably run away and drop dead anywhere from 20 to 80 yards away. I have to believe that horses, which weigh 10-times more than white-tailed deer, are even less likely to “drop stone dead” when a single .30 caliber, 150 grain bullet hits their thorax at velocities around 1840 feet-per-second (typical .30 caliber, 150 grain hunting bullet velocity at 400 meters).
In other words Albert L J Hall’s posts are not trustworthy. Of course regular readers on this website already know that.
“………In other words Albert L J Hall’s posts are not trustworthy………” 🤔
This is like saying water is wet. 😄
Albert the Poncey, Fake-Limey, Fake-Military Subject wanker,
“after electing an illiterate, mysogonistic, self absorbed narcicistic and insurrectionist [and now a possible traitor ”
Don’t talk about MajorStupidity’s dear, beloved Barry Soetoro that way, you racist!!!!
I could tell the entire cosmos was different when l woke this morning – the Gawdess hochul hath spoken!
Self-defense, the Science of Statistics and Tactical Realities are newly null and void.
Assuming that the gravitational constant could be next, l am requesting a 10% reduction in the local field, should Her Awesome Fauxness be so kind. It is so much easier than going on a diet…
Biden is just talking to his “know-nothing” base. He does not care to know, nor truly even need to know the facts on anything firearms related.
He does not care, his base does not care. To them, guns are bad if they aren’t controlled by people who think like they do, or by people that the democrats feel should have them.
no exceptions.
They’re campaigning for the midterms. They don’t care about the truth. Janet Yellen, who assured us we wouldn’t have inflation, (then it was transitory, then oops, there will be pain because it’s here to stay) is out bragging about how great the Puppet economy is. The propaganda networks will show a few select lines and show portions of the paid for clapping, bused in crowds that can barely fill a high school gym. Compare and contrast that with a Trump rally. It’s all a charade.
Of course they about truth. They avoid it assiduously.
“If you want to fight against a country, you need an F-15,”
So sad. I guess Ireland will always be part of the UK.
And yet, he sends small arms to Ukraine to fight Russian troops.
“If you want to fight against a country, you need an F-15,”
And yet, he refuses to send F-15s (or even rusty old MIGs) to Ukraine to fight Russian troops, and instead sends Ukraine rifles!
(And other weapons, but no F-15s or MIGs).
They hypocrisy is mind-boggling.
I miss seeing his few campaign events, where literally dozens of people showed up, and half the crowd tooted clown horns in celebration! Those were the days…
Oddly enough, the White House website has the statement shown as “The most common rounds fired from an AR-15 move almost twice as fast as that from a handgun.”
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/07/11/remarks-by-president-biden-at-an-event-commemorating-the-passage-of-the-safer-communities-act/
This reminds me … I gotta do that monthly launch test for that MIRV’d ICBM out back. I’ll get to when the 5 o’clock cannon is fired. But first I gotta reload the M61 Vulcan’s, that party next door last night was too loud.
.22 Eargespitten Loudenboomer…a .378 Weatherby Mag necked down to .223. Damn
And yeah, Biden is an idiot.
I remember someone testing .30/378 with 125g bullets and able to exceed 4000 fps.
Ok, if an AR-15 is so useless for dealing with a run amok tyrannical government, why does the government want to take them away? Also, why do they issue the full auto version to US troops?
Man the semi-fascist basket of deplorables is getting full. We gotta take Congress back people! I’m gonna go to the UPS store and make a couple hundred copies of my voting ballot. What, I can’t do that? Huh.
Only if you vote Democrat.
“Biden should be focused on,, ,”
Hahahahwahahaha
…not pooping his pants.
“Dr. Jill, what flavor pudding do I get today?? Then can I have a nap?? I get tired, these days!”
His world is very easy to focus on – it consists of pudding, ice cream, naps, and playing with himself.
Yes, Biden, the great unifier. Just look at what he has accomplished since January 20th 2021: High taxes, restricted media honesty, failing schools, political corruptness, almost 10 % inflation, over double fuel prices, disaterous withdrawl from Afgahnistan leaving 87 Billion in equipment and weapons to the hands of the taliban (our enemy), open borders allowing approx 2 million illegal invaders into America. So if you think this is good for America, well just keep voting democrat.
According to Democrats a bunch of unarmed (verified by the FBI) rioters nearly managed to overthrow our government; so no, you don’t need an F15.
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