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New York Times: Gun Control is Demon Control! IMI Systems Quote of the Day

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“To be human is to be at the mercy of anger, our own and that of those around us. Keeping guns out of the hands of those who can’t harness their demons will keep Americans safer in their homes, safer around their children and safer as a nation.” – There Is Common Ground on Guns [via nytimes.com]

 

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  1. Oh look. More projection from the unhinged left. I suppose if all of my friends, family and neighbors were hysterical, purple haired, developmentally stunted imbeciles shouting at the sky and tipping over mailboxes I’d be in favor of keeping them restricted in any way possible too.

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  2. Keeping guns out of the hands of those who can’t harness their demons will keep Americans safer in their homes, safer around their children and safer as a nation.

    It is also impossible. People who are determined to commit evil acts are neither compelled nor constrained by laws intended to keep firearms out of their hands.

    At the same time, it is nice of gun control proponents to admit that evil exists in the world. Sad that they will never admit that it is immoral to use the power of the state to burden the ability of the innocent law-abiding to provide for their own defense against such evil.

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  3. Hamil has spent too much time method acting Skywalker, the jihadi who killed tens of thousands in multiple terrorist attacks. The character is nothing but an uneducated cave dwelling brat who got brainwashed by an ancient religion into committing atrocities against a duly elected government.
    He’s a terrorist pawn, plain and simple.

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  4. Let the NYT purge its own demons, then go F itself with something sharp and heavy for a century, then let it come back and whine about ~ whatever, at which time our great grandkids can tell it to go F itself with something sharp and heavy, for a century.

    Evil POS (D) NYT satanist MFs are pro-killing-out-of-the-womb-babies, demons like that don’t get to define what a demon is or say who the demons are.

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  5. In the comments section for this editorial, “Steve” in NYC (obviously) opines thusly:
    “The NRA claims that we gun control advocates want to take away gun owner rights and confiscate weapons. And gentle, peaceful people are afraid to acknowledge that this is precisely what they want. I’m not afraid. That’s precisely what I want. To make gun ownership rare, highly controlled, and gradually confiscate the arsenal that threatens our national well-being.”

    Make no mistake, this is what the endgame of the NYT’s “Common Ground” and all “commonsense” gun laws looks like. We can’t afford to budge One. Single. Millimeter.

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  6. See also, “People that watch and believe everything in the main stream news”. I’m convinced more than ever that a lot of Americans are dumber than a sack of hammers. A direct result of the Libtard run educational system.

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  7. Seriouly you can get a free bible at my church. And you don’t have to be defenseless. A pawn shop I occasionally deal with told me he won’t even take a Hipoint in a pawn. Just save up for a gun “buyback”. Yeah I chuckled at Georgia registration…

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  8. LOL, how come when I click on the link in this article for “ray guns”, a browser window opens to a Brownells window for the “CHIAPPA FIREARMS – DOUBLE BADGER 19IN 20 GAUGE | 22 LR BLUE 2RD”?

    Now, I could understand if the link took me to a Beretta U22 Neos, which looks like a Star Wars blaster, but someone at Brownells has a weird sense of humor linking “ray gun” to a wood and steel Chiappa over-under combination 20gauge shotgun/22LR rifle!

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  9. The numbers are obviously false on their face. As a gun owner who also admits that guns are dangerous more often than they are safe (like several other things in life, I use guns despite their risk, not because I falsely believe they reduce it), I wish you would approach this question more honestly.

    I could spend a while getting into the numerous methodological issues in the Kleck study and similar studies that render them useless. For a moment I’ll just take the numbers at face value and show how they’re logically impossible.

    They claim up to 2,500,000 defensive gun uses. 15.7% claim that they “almost certainly” saved someone’s life and 14.6% believe that they “probably” saved someone’s life.

    Due the math, and that’s between 400,000 and 800,000 lives saved by guns in the USA every year!

    But wait…there are only 17,000 murders a year.

    So if you are going to take the survey as accurate, it indicates that 96-98% of potential murders are stopped by guns.

    Since less than 10% of Americans have a gun on them at any particular moment in time, that numbers appears ridiculous. Since the vast majority of people who are murdered are killed in situations where they would have very minimal chance of stopping it with a gun (the person committing the murder tends to be one step ahead of the person defending, and a gun is designed for offense, not defense), the number is even more ludicrous.

    There is simply no way to get from 17,000 actual killings to 400,000+ imagined killings. How would it be even remotely possible that the small minority of people who are carrying arms at any one point are fending off 600,000 or so murders, while the 90+% of people who are walking around unarmed are doing just fine without the gun?

    You could try to make the numbers “reasonable” by simply assuming that 90% or 99% of your respondents were wrong, as you do at one point. But those numbers are completely arbitrary. If you recognize that at least 90% of your respondents are obviously wrong, why not 99.9%? Why not 99.97%? How do you make up an “accurate number” from data that you yourself recognize is generally wrong from the start?

    You can do the same breakdown with other results from the study. Crunching the numbers along with other reports shows that Kleck claims Americans use guns to stop twice as many rapes as actually occur in the USA on an annual basis…even though the VAST majority of women are unarmed the vast majority of the time. If the 1% of women who walk around in public armed are stopping 2/3 of the rapes in America, how are the 99% who are unarmed getting away with the minority of assaults?

    Also, the Kleck study results claim that DGU heroes wound more people in their defensive uses than the total number of people shot by guns in the entire USA in a given year. That’s pretty incredible, especially since the number actually reported is something like 0.5% of that total. So 99.5% of Defensive Gun Use folk who shoot and wound their attacker then fail to report that shooting to the police? That seems…really irresponsible. Who has a crime committed against them, proceeds to SHOOT the person committing the crime, and then fails to call the police or at least an ambulance?

    This debate has gotten to the point where neither side is remotely listening to each other, and it allows both sides to produce ridiculous claims like this one. It is only in an unreflective echo chamber that we could begin to give the slightest validity to surveys which claim that 90+% of violent crimes are stopped by the good guys with guns who are apparently superhero-like in their ability to be right in the middle of the action on the regular (although rather incredibly lax about reporting it to the police).

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  10. Must need a new deer rifle…

    “And yea the Lord did say unto thee bringeth me your Hi Points, your Remingtons, and your Marlins. And yea I shall give unto thee a Bible as I driveth my pick up truck to yonder deer stand and proceedeth to drink Budweiser and hunteth the bucks and does until my freezer runneth over with delicious venison and until mine tags are filled. Praiseth the Lord and pass the ammunition!”
    Lost book of Jed 42:21-56

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  11. Being in California, the answer is as much as I can get my hands on before Jan 1. I figure 5K of what I shoot the most and 2K of the lessor rounds. So for me, that is about 60K.

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  12. Barrel length DOES influence accuracy greatly IF the gun has iron sights. A rifle with a longer barrel is going to have a longer sight plane and consequently the shooter will be able to make finer adjustments.

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  14. I have an online friend who works in an ER at an inner-city hospital. The experience turned him against guns because there are so many victims of armed barbarians.

    I asked him whether he would be happier treating more rape and assault victims, since guns are used quite frequently to stop those crimes.

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