Brady Background Check has Failed to Live Up to its Promises
You mean the system is flawed?…
“ATF agents did not consider most of the prohibited persons who had obtained guns to be dangerous.”
Those words, quoted last year by USA TODAY, explain why the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and local governments are not prosecuting most gun buyers who get denied by FBI background checks.
It’s because these people are largely not the “bad guys.” Rather, they consist of hundreds of thousands of veterans who didn’t know they had been stripped of their constitutional rights without due process.
Or they’re people subject to bench warrants who didn’t realize their unpaid traffic tickets made them outlaws.
Or they were people like Navy veteran Jeff Schrader, whose 45-year-old misdemeanor conviction for a street fight prevented him from buying a gun.
Lion King Prop Maker Busted for Trying to 3D Print Gun
Sing it with me: “…it means no worries, for the rest of your days…”…
Things weren’t very Hakuna Matata at Broadway’s iconic “The Lion King” on Friday afternoon, when cops stormed the theater to arrest a props worker for allegedly trying to make a gun with a 3D printer, The Post has learned.
Cops from the Midtown South precinct arrived at the Minskoff Theatre on West 45th Street at 12:30 p.m., and went backstage to collect Ilya Vett, 47, the assistant supervisor for the prop department.
Vett, of Windsor Terrace, Brooklyn, was in the midst of 3-D printing “a hard black plastic object which, based on my training and experience, is shaped like a revolver,” a cop swore in Vett’s criminal complaint.
“I brought the 3-D printer in [to the theater] from my workshop because my workshop is too dusty,” Vett told cops, according to the complaint.
Surveillance Cameras Show Gas Station Shootout
From Chris Eger over at Guns.com…
Two armed felons at an East St. Louis, Illinois gas station caused thousands in property damage in the course of a pre-dawn shootout.
The incident occurred at the Gas Mart on Missouri Avenue at about 1 a.m. on Sept. 12. when the two men began exchanging gunfire in the parking lot. During the ensuing back and forth gunplay, with one suspect in a car and another at times on foot, gas station patrons can be seen diving for cover as windows break, one even sliding under a nearby SUV until the coast is clear.
‘…it was “a habit” of the friends to unload the firearm and dry fire it at each other…’
Congratulations! Here’s your Darwin Award.
Right? Shit, if you wanna take turns “shooting” at each other whats wrong with a $60 CO2 airsoft pistol?
Red, did you not read Gov. William J Le Petomane’s comment. With a CO2 airsoft pistol, evolution would not have been served.
Do I want to know WTF an “Argentine Township” is?
It’s just down the road from Possumburg.
“Brady Background Checks Fail to Deliver”
Not to mention UnConstitutional,security theater.
True. And mentioned in the article.
“Witnesses told police it was “a habit” of the friends to unload the firearm and dry fire it at each other, Fulton said…”
Operative word being “was.”
I researched this further. The trigger man was convinced that the handgun was unloaded because he or his buddy had removed the magazine. Of course they failed to empty the chamber.
Pro-tip: always remove the magazine AND THEN CLEAR THE CHAMBER before pulling the trigger for dry-fire practice.
And cycle the action two or three times after clearing the chamber just to be absolutely certain the firearm is unloaded.
Rule #1 applies, even after you clear the gun and you would bet your life that it’s clear. There is no such thing as a safe gun.
Want to pretend you’re shooting someone? That’s what Nerf guns are for.
This is a Darwin Award presented by committee.
No such thing aye? Hold my drink while I get the angle grinder… or disassemble the weapon, or take the firing pin out…
Would you trust someone who pointed a gun at you and said, “Don’t worry. I took the firing pin out?” Congratulations. Here’s your Darwin award.
Boosht. I have several safe guns, although even those get pulled out and fired now and then.
I can’t tell you how many old timers I’ve heard saying “this is why god gave us pinkies” as they shove their digit in the chamber. There’s reasons they’re old timers right?
The way I was taught was check the ammunition source (e.g. mag well), breech face, and chamber both visually and physically. Sure, you’re talking about mitigating some pretty low probability events here. How often does a cartridge get stuck on an extractor? But if you always check for all the possible failures as a matter of routine, you will catch the common ones that usually happen, as well as the rare ones that almost never do.
You are correct, sir.
I was taught to remove the mag, lock the bolt to the rear, and visually inspect both the chamber and mag well. It’s a procedure I use every single time I pick up a weapon. And I do it again even if I only set it down for a second and I’m the only one in the house.
I never saw the point in this, and don’t do it. If the extractor was broken the first time, it’ll still be broken the next two or three times. Instead, clear the chamber properly: look in the chamber, on the face of the bolt or slide, down the magazine well. Feel inside with your finger if the light isn’t good.
When I start my car, I hear the sound of the engine, I see the tach rise, the battery light goes out. I don’t then go and crank it several more times to make sure it’s started, I check the right way the first time.
It’s not about the extractor. It’s actually a check on yourself. The proper order is drop the mag, clear and open the action, and check the ammunition source, breech face, and chamber.
If you add in racking the slide a few times as part the clear and open, the “forgot to drop the mag” error will be evident as a stream of rounds is ejected. Fix that, then continue (maybe picking up those rounds off the floor at some point), and make the rest of the checks.
If you forget to drop the mag AND you neglect to check for the mag when you clear the chamber I don’t think you’re going to be observant enough to see rounds ejecting.
Cycling the slide more than once is just silly. Lock the action open, check it, and be done. There’s no point to running the slide back and forth. If it didn’t eject the round the first time, you’ve got a mechanical problem and should address it.
A buddy of mind (very experienced, like you have no idea) had the habit of cycling the slide like you describe. Once he ejected a live round, but it didn’t clear the ejection port. When the slide came back it detonated the round out of battery. He’s got a scar on his hand from the burns, and he’s lucky it didn’t blind him.
I rack the slide several times because it’s a gun and I like to fool with it! And if you think that’s bad, when I unload a revolver, I work the action several times, as well, for the same reason. Dry firing is more rare.
Broke IT, CarlosT, and DaveL,
I purposely avoided discussing the nuances of ensuring that a firearm is unloaded. I did that in the hope that people will at least remember that only ejecting a magazine is not enough to unload a firearm. As long as that sticks, people will then think to themselves, “Now that I dropped the magazine, what else do I have to do to ensure that my firearm is unloaded?”
Think of this as an extension of the model of the four rules of firearm safety. Each of the four rules are concise so that people have a good chance of remembering them.
Yes, the best way to ensure that a firearm is unloaded is to empty/drop the magazine; lock the action open; visually inspect the magazine, chamber, and bolt face; and stick your finger or a suitable object into the magazine and chamber to ensure that there are no cartridges stuck in there. (Note that this process alone includes just as many elements as the entire set of the “four rules” of firearm safety.)
And while cycling the action two or three times does nothing if your extractor is broken, it might help if your extractor or cartridge are sticky. And it certainly does not hurt anything.
You’re doing a helluva job ATF…no misdemeanor should EVER disqualify you. 3 felonies a day boyz. We’re all lawbreakers😦
Eventually we will all be on a list somewhere and not allowed to have any toys.
Sesame Credit coming to America soon.
And what, pray tell, is the Second Amendment Organization?
I was going to ask that myself.
Perhaps not Negotiating Rights Away since 1934.
If their website is indicative, the SAO is Rob Pincus, a press release about Rob Pincus, and another dude.
That was funny.
Also read what Pincus supports. “Responsible gun ownership”.
He’s very anti- open carry. Guess that means we open carry people are irresponsible according to someone who’s never served, been in office, or done anything besides make money off the gun industry.
Rob Pincus ‘s views on the NFA?
He opposes the National Flute Association because he’s a dyed-in-the-wool piccolo man.
The ATF doesn’t go after the vast majority of people who fail background checks because they’re not dangerous — but we need MOAR background checks because safety.
Okay, got it.
“Sensible Firearms Safety Laws” being ‘Sensibly’ enforced….?
….Constitutional Infringements….The 2 “Felons” shooting it out recklessly in a gas station should have met up with “a hot lead bullet wall of public safety” discharged by armed concerned U.S. citizens!
….And ALL constitutional infringements are deliberate failures to protect and uphold the U.S. Constitution/Bill of Rights…And should be a “capital crime”! Where failures of the Government Representatives, or it’s agents *(Police/Lower level politicians/public servants…)* go to jail, or get the gulliotine!
I sincerely doubt that, out of a hundred thousand denied NICS checks, a mere 12 or so are actual bad guys.
If that’s their actual hit ratio, remind me again why we have this particular prior restraint on a civil right guaranteed by the Constitution?
Because no one has ever challenged it. Hoping for Kavanaugh.
Nothing good happens after midnight, and nothing good ever happens in East St Louis. Double whammy there.
“There’s a reason we have the four golden rules of gun safety, people…:
True enough, but now is a fine opportunity to remind people that there is a reason why sone private property owners ban guns on their property., which is fine with me. Don’t like it? Don’t shop there.
That parking lot shootout reminds me of this:
Boy, lemme tellya what! The employee who tackled that customer deserves a freaking MEDAL! The whole vicinity was blown to shit seconds later, right where the customer was standing.
Technically speaking, wouldn’t arresting Mr. Vett while he was in the process of printing a hard plastic object that looked like a revolver be prior restraint of the First Amendment? Up until the point where the frame could be assembled into a gun, it’s just a blob of plastic – like an 80% AR lower receiver.
I assume we’ll see this “story” quietly disappear, when the prosecutor decides that no offense actually occurred.
Agreed, except I think that until it is fully ready to be loaded, it is not a firearm, therefore there has been no crime. OTOH, I also realize that some states are so screwy they would consider a spent .22 case the same as a loaded machine gun.