I thought long and hard about posting this. I even slept on it. And . . . here it is: police brutality in all its glory. Sure, Blake Robles shouldn’t have stepped-up to the cop; I always communicate passivity to cops with my words, body language and tone of voice. And it’s hard to watch a man [literally] cry to the media after getting walloped and chest compressed by a Marine cum law enforcement officer. But I reckon there’s a direct correlation (if not causation) between “liberal” carry laws and police accountability. In other words, cops are more likely to respect their fellow civilians if they think they might be packing heat; both practically and culturally. And wouldn’t you just know it . . .
The Grand Jury was informed that “[i]n consideration of the newly adopted guidelines, coupled with the lack of articulated justifications on the part of an applicant for needing a CCP aside from Reserve Police Officers, we rarely issue new permits.
This despite the fact that a story last June that a Vallejo man with permitted concealed weapon stops restaurant robbery. What’s the bet that he got his permit outside the city? And the cops almost kicked the crap out of him too?
Guns save lives. Gun permits save societies.
“And… 5, 6, 7, 8! Sclemeel, schlemazel, target stays in front of muzzle!”
(lady on far left).”Hey you!! Yes you!! Get your scrawny little ass back in line before I shoot your “BB’s” plum off”!!!!!
45 minutes to get there, where a person was getting his ass beat by 2 other guys at the least? Jesus… He’s lucky it wasn’t a robber strung out on meth or crack, he could have died.
I will admit that the victim was a little short with the police which probably wasn’t a very good idea. My last two experiences with cops was either me doing my CCW paperwork or me bleeding badly in a burning car and both of those times I was still respectful.
Luckily not all cops are hotheads like that cop was or else the entire country would be falling apart.
I’m not sure if the Officers actions were illegal but they were certainly unprofessional.
I for one hope the victim does decided to sue it’s the best way to disciplined these rouge departments.
Already emailed and snail mailed my reps, senators, and governor googley-eyes.
Moonshine, may I ask who you work for? I feel the need to support a good company with my tax returns.
Really, TTAG? “Muzzle break”? No wonder members of forums can’t get it right. It’s called a muzzle BRAKE. Sorry if my reaction is harsh.
The Officer sure comes off as a bully.
I agree Officers need to not back down from aggression and control a situation but the Officer started off all wrong. And, maybe, they were out at a high pressure call and the Officer is still hyped up but the Officer still screwed up from the start.
Officers deal with upset people every day. Is this his standard reaction?
I love my local PD. All country boys, all level headed, all good people. If one of their own pulled crap like this he would be working in MacDonald’s before the end of the day.
It really sucks to see a jackass with a god complex become an LEO.
Rob, I absolutely love your tag line.
“Guns save lives. Gun permits save societies.”
Just so you know, I’m stealing it.
Not so sure I agree with the argument that LEOs have more respect for armed civilians. Case in point here: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/florida-deputy-threaten-to-shoot-florida-concealed-carry-licensee-in-the-back/
I find it hilarious that the White House feels the need to “prove” Obama has actually shot a gun.
Awsome!!!
The Grand Jury report was most enlightening. You see, under California law, a City may, unless it delegates its authority to the Sheriff, issue CCWs; the sheriff can issue for the whole county. But then we start to see procedures that are violative of the Penal Code. The application form is provided by the State, and it provides: “the applicant shall not be required to complete any additional application or form for a CCW license, or to provide any information other than that necessary to complete the standard application form except to clarify or interpret information provided herein. (PC section 12051(a)(3)(C).)” It is therefore illegal to require an applicant to provide written character references (the usual number, when required by the local pd , is three, but Riverside requires three written references and four mor personal references). There is no requirement in the penal code that the applicant have insurance, and in fact there is nological reason that the local issuing agency should require it. All of these agencies appear to require psych testing (which is permissable but not mandatory), but by code the fee may not exceed $150, not $375 as listed here. Yes, thre is discretion in issuing; but the law requires individual consideration; to limit issuance to reserve officers is an abuse of discretion as it says that citizens do not, as a rule, have just cause to carry.
There are worse counties. Last I checked, San Francisco required psych testing, letters, and that a shooting demonstration of skill, matching that required of San Fran police officers, be conducted at the SFPD police range under the insutruction of a certified SFPD range officer (withthe applicant requried to pay for the range time and the salary of the range officer.) All told, the process, which with the standard application fee and fingerprinting and class (16 hours of classs an shooting) costs about $350, would ocst in SF in excess of $2000. Not surprisingly, SF has not a single issued CCW under the last sheriff, and probably not under the current sheriff (who, though a gun owner, is also a gun banner, and not being a LEO, not licensed to carry).
Thank you for your SIR-VISS, Ossifer. Next time pistol-whip the roomies and THEN call him.
I’ve always had this thing for smooth wood grips. I completely DESPISE ’em. Ugliest thing this side of Dianne Frankenstein.
Cool lady.
I noticed she listed her old dog first, then her soulmate. Doh! I’m sure Bob’s got a sense of humor.
After watching Kelly drink so much water during Kopel’s testimony, I had to go pee!
Excellent, fact based testimony by Professor David Kopel!
A few years ago the idea was to repopulate North America with African plains animals due to the similar habitats. The plan was based on the idea that poaching efforts would kill off the big game animals of the African continent. Relocating select animals would allow the species to survive. Not sure I’m ok with lions roaming wild in Kansas, guess I’ll need to change my carry gun to something with a little more knockdown power.
The kid came off as a smart ass punk and he stepped up on the wrong person. He started off disrespecting the officer and tried to play it tough, and he got his ass kicked a second time. He probably had the same shitty attitude with the guys who gave him the first beatdown.
A fish rides a bicycle.
a Marine cum law enforcement officer
See, I think that’s part of our problem. We shouldn’t allow ex-military to go into the Police force because they seem to have trouble realizing that they’re no longer in a war zone out to kill anyone who opposes them.
Thanks for speaking out, Alex! And bonus points for being someone who teaches kids. =)
Not sure where you got your facts, but the Swiss Army’s P75 service pistol is a SIG P220 in 9mm. A version in.45 is also available, purportedly for the US market. Recently, SIG had a special with a newer version P220 in .45 witha picatinny rail in a set with a .22 conversion.
For the P210, do take a look at SIG HiGrip https://www.gunfactory.ch/index.htm as an alternative to the wood grips.
Pictures a setup. If he did shoot all the time the pic would’ve surfaced the next day, not a week later. It’s a good thing he’s wearing sunglasses otherwise we’d see that his eyes are closed and I’ll bet that he’s even shooting blanks. But I’ll just take Michelle’s word on that!
We have ALWAYS lived in a PoliceState, technically since 1933.
No, I mean, REALLY, really, as declared by FDR:
However, what’s more disconcerting is the fact that FDR’s Emergency Act has NEVER been rescinded; more ironically surprising is the fact that the current one in effect, has been re-invoked by that ‘bleeding-heart liberal pinko commie peacenik’ Carter, and has been renewed every year since, by every proceeding POTUS, including GWB, and by one Barack Hussein oBUSHma:
When we live in an era where the FBI claims its agents can write their own warrants without any judicial review under the sarcastically named ‘Patriot’ Act, and when a POTUS can single handedly steal your own biz and private property for ‘public good,’ can sign NDAA of 2012 & 2013, as crafted, into ‘law’ and decides he can secretly and indefinitely detain, and even assassinate (yes, motherfucking ASSASSINATE) any American citizen that he alone arbitrarily deems to be a threat (to whom? to what?) and deludes he has the ‘right’ to willy nilly label anyone he dislikes as “terrorists” (as per DHS-MIAC Fusion center report, be they Christian Pro-Life activists, conservatives, libertarians, returning veterans, gun owners, Tea-Party, or liberal environmentalists & Occupy) without any judicial review, we are a de facto/de jure (depending on whom you ask) police state.
Habea Corpus has been a hallmark of Western freedoms since the 13th Century England. No Western Govt has officially ‘suspended’ it, until Lincoln (challenged, then the SCOTUS overturned it), then Military Commissions Act under GWB, and now continued under Obama.
No amount of BS verbal flourish is gonna change that.
We do not have a gun-homicide epidemic, we have a pandemic of copthuggery since post-9/11 rah rah PoliceState with DHS formed to target us, the citizenry, not some Islamist cave dwellers. Like the inefficacy of laws designed to limit violence via gun rights infringements, no amount of laws can ‘prevent’ terrorism.
Last I checked, OBL didn’t sign Patriot Act or form DHS, or formed TSA who is now putting hands down your wife’s bra and your daughter’s pants. Your CONgress and previous and current POTUS regimes did.
So who are the real “terrorists”?
Let that sink in: our ‘enemies’ didn’t institute and construct an infrastructure for the domestic PoliceState, our supposed public servants who are supposedly employed on our behalf, DID.
Sometimes the current blind public adoration for anyone in a uniform reminds me of all the 1980’s USSR Cold War footages with Soviet ICBM and forehead high salute military march & parade down the Red Sqaure with state propaganda music playing in the backgroud, that we as Americans LAUGHED AT.
Guess the joke’s on us, now, eh?
No, but that can never happened in America, right? Especially when half of the sheeple populace delude only those in govt are deserved AR15’s/”assault weapons” aka “weapons of war” for “self-defense and has no place in a civilized society.”
So, the honest question to our hoplonphobic detractors would be: then WTF are most cops doing with AR15’s as patrol carbines in their cruisers? What are “weapons of war” doing in their daily rides?
The only time where full-auto/select fire “assault weapons” are necessary is to
1. mow down/fend off waves of massive infantry amassing toward your known defensive position (a pre-Vietnam ‘Police Action’ tactic)
2. to redirect your enemies into a ‘death funnel’ to ambush them
3. suppressive fire, for cover, or until your teammates can out-flank your enemies
So… which of the three does a regular patrol man or even SWAT need full-auto/select-fire AR’s, when the hoplonphobes claim that those are battlefield weapons that should only be relegated to war theaters, especially considering the fact that your local LEO’s daily mantra is “every stray bullet has a lawyer’s name written on it” ??
Who are the LEO supposed to be ‘waging a war’ against? Us the American citizenry, their own employers??
F’ng cognitively dissonant statist lunatics.
Black Germans don’t exist? Wow. I really need to write my friend from over there whose father was a black GI that abandoned him and his mom back in the 1970s. He’ll be awfully surprised to learn he’s not really real…
He’s a German citizen, last time I looked, and while there aren’t a huge number of them, he’s not alone, either. And, in a lot of respects, the Germans actually have less racism in their society, outside of the neo-Nazi fringe. I ran into few Germans that really gave a shit about race, unless they’d had a bad experience with an African-American GI, or were influenced by white Americans.
awwww skeet skeet skeet skeet
I’m sorry, but are you actually suggesting that Obama is a “law-abiding civilian?”
… and another $500- $700 for a custom drop-in barrel in .256 Winchester Magnum. (Get out the books, kids… a really cool cartridge that no one ever made a gun worthy of it for.) I’ve had as much fun shooting .25-20 (in a very “uncool” Savage Sporter bolt job from the early 50s) as anything I’ve ever shot; sort of a .22 LR x 2 in terms of bullet weight and offhand range. A “super” .25-20 in a nifty auto… oh yeah, that works!
1) there silly little march is on a weekday – parents won’t pull kids out of school for this
2) kids are gonna parrot their parents and I don’t give these kids a lot of credence. sorry – mine shoot and know how to clean my guns. They are 5 and 7 – let’s feature them in a video in a weaver stance hitting a target at 10 yrds.
3) we need to counter with kids who were saved from active shooters or a mugger or carjacker by someone with a gun. if they want emotion, then that’s what they get.
Honestly, we need to start making the same kinds of propaganda they do. Except ours would be better as it would make more sense. Maybe some sort of movie about a serial killer where each villain was liberally self disarmed, but the last few victims had guns in the home. The first of the final three victims would have a hunting rifle locked in a safe with no ammo in the home, would get to it, realize how useless it was, and prepare to use it as a club against the killer as he was shot dead, the second to last victim would have a lot of “tactical” toys in his safe, but would die just as he was getting the safe open, and the last prospective victim would be the cop’s wife that was trying to catch this serial killer. She would be practicing house (concealed) carry after an emotional flashback conversation inspired by a case the cop had a few years ago, and in the final scenes the serial killer would be threatening their child, and at an opportune time as the serial killer was explaining his perverted predilictions he would place the kid on the floor for just a moment and she would shoot him and grab the kid, the climactic scenes requiring all 19 bullets an XDm or Glock 17 with mag extendor as she was chased with the kid throughout the house, continuing to shoot him until he finally couldn’t take anymore blood loss and collapsed as she was hiding in the crawlspace or attic.
The cop assigned to the case would be tied up in a lead that he thought was going somewhere, but not expecting to actually catch the guy immediately, and due to communication blackout wouldn’t show up to console his wife and family until at least 6 hours after the fact.
as a Former Marine grunt, here’s my two cents. The officer probably could have defused the situation, but when some idiot calls and then bitches when you don’t show up fast enough for him, when it clearly wasn’t an emergency, then he’s just not starting things well.
The kid is clearly emotionally disturbed. He’s also probably an asshole because he had four other roommates decide they didn’t want him living with them. Think about that. They pile his shit out in the lawn, and a “brawl” ensues. The kid is “beat up” although look at him. No visible bruises on his body- 45 minutes is enough time for some marks to show. He then cops an attitude with the cops, tries to assert himself and is smacked down.
Look at his reaction to the video later. He’s crying and raging. He’s all over the place. Come on. No offense, and I know that everybody is a little different, but this guy is all over the place. Perhaps the Vallejo PD do have problems, but in my view, this guy was just begging for it. I’m 6’6, and 290 lbs, and when I talk to cops I deliberately slow my gestures, maintain eye contact and keep my hands very visible. Not because I’m afraid of them, but because I know that when I was searching people and cars in Iraq years ago, it’s what I liked. Put yourself in the cop’s shoes, he doesn’t know you. You could have killed 10 people for all he knows. Respect goes both ways, and that kid was just a punk who got what was coming to him.
And in other propaganda news:
Wolf Blitzer recently told a VA sheriff that he Must Obey Obama’s EO’s (even though that is patently false)
Fight fire with fire. They say guns are dangerous evil-creating objects that kill kids. Show, verbalize and make visible the historical evidence of citizen disarmament and how unsafe that ends (and dead kids). It’s not persuasive to everyone, as some believe anything that happened more than 5 years ago can never happen again, but you can only lead the horse to water.
We need to disseminate first hand accounts of citizens who faced a horrifying attack and prevailed because they were armed. The citizen has to convey their feelings during the attack and their feelings about being alive and well today.
We also need to disseminate first hand accounts of victims who requested help from police who didn’t arrive in time — as is almost always the case since the police cannot be everywhere. Those victims have to share their feeling during the attack, their anguish at the fact that the police didn’t show up in time, and their pain as survivors, especially long term physical and emotional wounds and scars.
After several years of sharing those two types of events, we need to disseminate first hand accounts of citizens who lived in a country that went from peaceful to violent chaos almost overnight. Sarajevo comes to mind. I read an account of someone who watched in disbelief how police — who were responded to a shooting — were suddenly ambushed themselves and withdrew permanently. When the shooting continued into the next day and beyond with no police response, the witness struggled to grasp what was happening. Our citizens need to know this can and does happen. They need to know how it feels. And they need to know that they don’t have to be totally helpless should something like that ever happen in the U.S. And they need to know how it feels to not be totally helpless.
Did you send the above to him and all the editors at the outlet?
We can have all the messages we want — but the enemy controls the media. No media = no message. 2A groups can produce the pro-gun equivalent of “Gone With the Wind” and nobody will see it. Ever.
We can’t control the dialog — or even influence it. What we can do is sue the bastards to death. Sue them until their eyeballs bleed. And then, just like Chicago, the bastards will have to pay for “our” lawyers.
I sent in my contribution to the SAF. Did you? I’m also checking out the Cato Institute and any other groups who know how to use the courts.
More environazi bullsh!t.
It’s too bad the mainstream media won’t put this on national news, as it doesn’t fit their agenda…
Great article, well up to the whole “dog parka” thing. Just kidding, Robert.
Both the SIG P226 and Baretta out-performed the 1911 in the military trials for environmental testing.
A gunshop owner showed me his P226 carry-piece about 15 years ago… I thought it was ugly as hell… I had been a S&W 659 guy since about 1986, but his loyalty for the SIGs stuck with me over the years, then, in 2008, when I went on a gun-buying frenzy (any guesses why???), I found a good price on a SIG P226 with the rail… it was even uglier than I remembered. But, one day I took it to the range, and, holy s#!+! I didn’t realize I was THAT good of a shot!
Now, I own three, one from each design iteration… and the used, holster-worn, 1992, W. German ugly duckling is my CCW piece. The S&W’s will be passed on to future generations, they are completely stainless steet, and will endure without maintenance for centuries, but, the reason there are no after-market kits for the SIGs, other than the short-reset trigger… is because YOU DON’T NEED THEM.
There is a reason why the guys whose shooting can change the course of human history use SIGs.
They said visceral pleasure….heh heh heh
“Graded permits based on level of training and proficiency”
I love this one. Somehow I think that a large percentage
of owners and CCW holders have a much higher level of
training than CAGV will ever admit to. Probably to the point
where CT would have to ban all permits so they can
continue the “gun owners are untrained amateurs” meme.
Of course it goes without saying that the average CCW holder
probably has more training than the celebrities and political
stooges who are packing.
R.I.P. Chris Kyle
Just finished his book. Too weird!
This is horrible news.
Worse yet, I know at the next anti gun rally, this will be brought up to de-bunk the “No one goes to a gun range to kill people” argument.
Sad, on both accounts
The current gun proposed around the country is like asking to ban all cars other than Toyotas. And if you have a Ford, turn it in… and you can only drive if you have the Toyota. Oh, but if you put a cold air filter or custom exhaust on your toyota, it will be banned also.
Libtard insanity.
Walk the walk, Sly. No more ‘assault rifles’ or hi-cap mags in any of your upcoming works of cinematic art. And while you’re at it, why not edit out all such scenes in your previous masterpieces? Oh, right, the fliks would be about 38 minutes long…
I have the USA special edition with the blue stock and red bag. I put tech-sights on which still let both sides fit in the two long puches on one side of the bag and on the single large pouch I have a Kabar Chop Stick and I can still fit a Browning Buckmark in a seperate pistol case inside the bag. Then a leatherman tool, watherproof matches, extra magazines a couple boxes of CCI mini-mags, safety glasses and ear buds I think I’m good to go for short term survival.
This is always in my trunk whenever I plan on driving more than 50 miles from home.
One of the best so far!
“Do not do not try this at home” = “Don’t don’t try this at home” = “Try this at home”
I take that double negative as full permission to proceed.
I’m loving it – all manufacturers need to refuse to participate in this 7 round magazine garbage, or else they’ll be expected to produce 5 round, 3 round, and 1 shot versions when subsequent gun bans are enacted. Refuse to ship the guns without standard capacity magazines for standard freedom states (or 10 round capacity, for limited freedom states). The result will be a de facto gun ban in states like NY, which will help gun advocates overturn the bans in the courts.
Give Missouri Republicans a CIGAR!!!
I emailed the publisher of the study.
”
I was reading the survey provided in this article:
Poll of NRA Members Shows Strong Support for Common-Sense Gun Laws, Exposing Significant Divide Between Rank-and-File Members and NRA Leadership
And notice in the report that the survey questions and methodology are absent. Therefore there is nothing that can be concluded from these reported results. Yet the author of the report makes a strong claim in his conclusion of the report. This suggests the possibility of a flawed scientific study and possible negligence on part of the researcher conducting the study.
You would be well within your rights to demand this missing information from the research company, and if the study was found to be flawed you would be well within your rights to demand your money back.
If you have the missing information in your possession, please make it public and I will analyze the integrity of the study free of charge. I do this for a living.
Thanks,
“
HAH! I had to look up who Heidi Montag is. That’s thirty seconds I’ll never have back…