Creepy? You don’t say . . . ‘SHE’S A BAD B***H’ Texas church shooting – Facebook rants of ‘creepy’ gunman Devin Kelley, 26, who preached about atheism before killing 26 churchgoers
Devin Kelley, 26, who opened fire on worshippers in First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs yesterday, was described as “creepy” and “weird” by former schoolmates.
Classmate Nina Rosa Nava write on Facebook that the mass murderer used to rant on the social network about his atheist beliefs.
She said: “He was always talking about how people who believe in God were stupid and trying to preach his atheism.”
Fellow user Christopher Leo Longoria replied: “I removed him off FB for those same reasons! He was being super nagtive (sic) all the timd (sic).”
Stephen Willeford used an AR to shoot Devin Kelley . . . Men shot at, chased after Sutherland Springs church shooter
Langendorff said he didn’t get a good look at the shooter besides that he was in all black, but he saw and heard the gunfire. He said it seemed like Kelley was shooting a pistol at that point.
The neighbor, who Langendorff didn’t know, had what appeared to be an AR-15.
“The gentleman with the rifle came to my truck as the shooter took off, and he briefed me quickly on what had just happened, and said that we had to get him and so that’s what I did,” Langendorff said.
Does anyone have $64,000? . . . Boas: After Texas church shooting, here’s the question we should ask
If there is a provenance for these mass shootings in modern America it is Texas. Fifty-one years ago, a former Marine sharpshooter carried his footlocker full of rifles to the observation tower of the main building at the University of Texas in Austin and killed 15 people and injured 31 others.
Some 130-plus rampage shootings later, we are back in Texas pondering, “Why did this happen and how can we stop it?”
Thanks, @NRA, for helping us focus on the real issues here, literally minutes after more Americans are massacred. https://t.co/umCqUFouKA
— Seth Moulton (@sethmoulton) November 5, 2017
Poorly-timed, but is this really worse than the anti-gun left’s blood-dancing? . . . NRA Criticized for Tweeting About Gun Terminology Amid Deadly Texas Church Shooting
A few hours after the mass shooting, the NRA tweeted the post, entitled “It’s Time For a Vocabulary Lesson…” The story explains the difference between various terms including “semi-automatic assault rifles” and “AR-15s.” The tweet was later deleted, and the NRA did not respond to a request for comment from Fortune.
Many people joined Moulton in denouncing the NRA’s tweet. “Try to care about human people for like one minute?” one person wrote in response to the article.
As if it matters . . . The New York attack was labeled ‘terrorism.’ The Texas shooting wasn’t. Here’s why
“But do the thought experiment: If this attack on the church in Charleston had been conducted by a Muslim man shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’ what is already a big news story would have become even bigger, as it would appear to fit so well into the political and media narrative that Muslim militants are the major terrorist problem in the United States,” Bergen wrote.
His comments get at what some observers have been saying for years — some acts of violence are only labeled terrorism if the attacker is dark-skinned and Muslim.
“There’s a danger that we only use the word ‘terrorism’ to refer to a particular racial profile of perpetrator,” said Andrew Mumford with the Center for Conflict, Security and Terrorism. “The Charleston example is a really important one … Sometimes (the label) terrorism is not used when the nationality of the perpetrator does not fit conventional stereotypes.”
Good, we’d been holding our breath waiting for this . . . LI congressional delegation condemns Texas church shooting
Members of the New York congressional delegation decried the shooting in Texas that killed more than two dozen people Sunday while Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo warned Americans not to become numb to such massacres. …
Cuomo said in a statement that Americans cannot become “numb to tragedy.”
“We cannot accept mass shootings as part of who we are — this can and must stop,” he said. “In the memories of those we lost today in Texas, and last month in Las Vegas, and last year in Orlando, and all across this nation, we must come together and say: Enough is enough,” Cuomo said.
Texas Motor Speedway Drops Pistols From Its Post-Race Celebration After Church Shooting
Texas Motor Speedway’s Victory Lane celebrations are always full of nods to the wild west, with cowboy hats, huge flames, big Texas stars and Texas-shaped confetti. However, one part of their usual celebrations didn’t seem right after a mass shooting near San Antonio: letting the winner fire a pair of pistols in the air.
While there was still plenty of Texas kitsch to go around (I mean, just look at the trophy), Texas Motor Speedway President Eddie Gossage told USA Today that they were skipping the pistols out of respect for the 26 people killed Sundaywhen a shooter opened fire on the First Baptist Church congregation in Sutherland Springs, Texas.
“In light of what happened, it was the respectful thing to do,” Gossage told USA Today.
WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO THE PURSUIT OF LIFE, LIBERTY, and HAPPINESS. Assault rifles infringe on that right. The Supreme Court has stated we have a right to regulate and ban certain firearms. We must, as a nation, as a people, as citizens, as neighbors, as church goers, stand together to ban assault rifles. We MUST ban the following: Assault rifles (yes, they are assault rifles); fully automatic weapons made before 1986 which are now legal; bump stocks; hollow bullets; exploding bullets; magazines that carry more than 3 rounds; tracers; body armor and bullet proof vests. These are the tools of mass murder, not lawful citizens. A WELL REGULATED MILITIA. WELL REGULATED. BAN these weapons of serial murder! I, we, have a right to the pursuit of life! WE DEMAND IT.
These types of incidents don’t happen in Europe, Canada, Japan or Australia on a daily basis. These countries seem to be continuing to do fine without some NRA nut with a chip on his shoulder and armed to the teeth.
Guns are not freedom. The countries I spoke of and went was probably where I’ve felt most free, and nobody carries guns there. Australia had a mass shooting with an AR-15 and banned military semi-auto rifles. No mass shootings since then. Men fight there, like real fighting, with their fists. WAY tougher than these flabby NRA cousin-screwing TTAG cowards.
If you want a right-wing paradise, where every man over age 10 walks around with an AK, religion is respected, and women know their place. move to Somalia. This is America. We REAL AMERICANS not like that.
Might I suggest the Hillsdale courses on the constitution. They are very well researched, full of facts, and quite informative on all part of our founding documents.
We will be hear when you get back.
Really????? Fisrst of all…. nope not moving… and id like to see you make me.
Secondly why is it you only post after an asshat like you pulls some cowardly crap like this….
Oh wait i know…. its because your mommy Shannon tells you too.
Anyway…. back to the story. Big props to the guy who had presence of mind to grab his own gun and shoot back. This could have been a lot worse.
I got the feeling the air force is gonna get some heat over this.
As you said, “This is America”. In America, we have something called the Second Amendment. If its truly guns that make you so uncomfortable, feel free to move to a country that doesn’t allow it. You stated that you have felt more free in countries other than America, what’s keeping you here.
NRA has a 58% approval rating. And Australia has had as many mass murders, in fact more mass murder of children AFTER their gun confiscation compared to before.
Australia is a case which shows gun control makes things worse, not better.
Another soft target. I’ve never heard of a mass shooting at a gun range, gun show, gun store, etc.
To arms.
Good man.
Sir, I only hope I can respond with the grit and determination you displayed, if the time ever arises.
Graveyards are filled with those that mistakenly believed the government or police were responsible for their safety. Democrats and liberals long ago transitioned to the cities because they lacked the “balls and guts” to make a life in the rural areas where the foundations upon which our Nation was built were forged in iron. Courage, respect for the Flag, respect for the Nation and her laws, respect for your neighbor, and the willingness to defend these values. Instead within the cities they could assign their safety and lives to someone else, police, sheriff, constable, or politicians. They developed a “culture of pass a law, that will solve the problem”. Of course with the influx of blacks and other minorities that brought their own culture of violence, they soon realized their error. But refusing to understand the very nature of violence and human behavior, they only continue to focus on those inanimate objects seeking that “golden fleece” of gun laws that would eliminate all violence. They are forever demented and with their constant inbreeding are truly a damaged specie!
Why would someone need a O/U with a 3.5″ chamber?
Las Vegas SWAT team’s response time? An old Texas white man’s response time?
By the time SWAT got their body armor on and grabbed their rifles, the old man and his new buddy got the shooter to kill himself.
Is that a poacher smiling in the picture? Looks like a tourist hunter to me…which makes it “OK”?
To all the white folks afraid of the name of the organization, proved your bias. We don’t give a damn if you like the name or not. Black folks don’t have to seek your (white folks) approval to start and name an organization. Bottom line is White folks are afraid of even law abiding Black folks who avail themselves of the 2A. Too damn bad. Every Black home that can legally have a gun should arm itself. Everything about this country is based upon race, the sooner America admit that the sooner the healing process can begin.
I read in another report that after his daughter alerted him to the incident he went to the safe to get his gun. He could hear the shots as he was opening it and says he knew what each one probably meant. And that it was likely people he knew.
Willeford is a hero not just for his response, but for what is now on his shoulders. I don’t doubt he will need counseling. He will hear those shots for the rest of his life.
This country is radically different along with the mindset of gun owners, since 1994. Between the assault weapons ban, and the confiscations during Katrina, American gun owners have hardened their hearts and won’t allow those situations to occur, ever again, without substantial and sustained bloodshed. I say, Amen. These filthy, subhuman, Liberal Terrorist™, gun grabbing vermin can go pound sand. I’m salivating at the idea that as a country, we settle this once and for all.
scotus has ruled that firearm ownership is an individual right. Duh.
Now Trump has appointed a conservative justice to the scotus and he has 7 more years to appoint more.
Even CA and NYC are going to be constitutional carry soon enough.
I was just thinking that since the killer was able to pass a NICS check due to the Air Force failing to submit his information that maybe the survivors would have a pretty strong civil case against the Air Force. I’m guessing this would be something the AF would want to brush under the rug as fast as possible to avoid publicity, so a quick settlement is possible. On the other hand, if the AF doesn’t mind the bad publicity it could shed a light on the failings of the background check system.
Perhaps they should pass a law requiring the armed services to report dishonorable discharges.
People who would use a safe will buy a safe regardless of incentives.
I don’t think it will make a difference.
There are too many variables to answer the question with a simple yes or no.
As serge points out placement of the safe is a key part of making it difficult to steal the whole thing. Making sure that a cable cannot be run in a straight line to a vehicle outside is part of this, especially in rural or semi-rural areas. However, as serge also points out this is only a solution for a portion of the people who might come in and try to steal the contents of your safe because all safes can be opened if the BG knows what they’re doing.
IMHO, a safe is a good idea if you own a largish number of guns. It’s not necessary, or cost effective, if you own just a few firearms. Regardless of how many guns you may or may not own it’s my personal opinion that the best security system is owning dogs. Not Chihuahuas or Dachshunds but big ass loud dogs. Back that up with an electronic security system and a safe and you’re about as good as you’re going to get unless you built a bank vault into your house during construction.
Of course dogs are not perfect, this can still happen…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ2cGojIyJA
I will not second guess a man that stopped the continued slaughter of defenseless women, elderly, and children. I will say, “Thank You”.
“he could eliminate Bush the Elder’s Gun Free School Zone Act on day one of his presidency).“
Ummmm no? The Gun Free School Zone Act was passed by Congress and signed into law by the president; To repeal now, requires another bill to pass through both houses of Congress . He can no more eliminate that then he could Obamacare.
In the last 3 weeks I’ve killed about 80 pigs. Many hundreds over the years. A supressed AR in 6.8SPC under an NV optic has proven the best combination I can find. I took out 23 in one evening like this last week.
Feinstein is up for election and is getting primaried from Ghost Gun DeLeon on the left apparently, so she needs to show that she is doing something.
That’s actually spectacular. In that one short statement, “run your defense”-guy demonstrates that he is unfamiliar with constitutional, or subsidiary laws in place, misidentifies “assault” rifles, wrong about impact of gun use, and potentially violating requirements that acting military stay out of politics.
Aside from that, that’s a quality candidate.