“The More You Sweat in Training, the Less You Bleed in Combat”

By Cliff Heseltine

Yes, but…since it’s a long shot that I’ll ever be in combat, how much do I really need to sweat? How much training is enough training? How much money is enough to spend on ammo and rental cars and airfare and hotels and restaurant food? What if I’m not physically able or willing to run around practicing live-fire drills with a rifle or pistol, playing Rambo, rolling in the dirt and mud, shooting multiple “bad guys” while moving and reloading, taking “hostage shots”? . . .

Some people are competitive. They like a challenge against others or against the clock. They like to prove that they’re faster, stronger, tougher, a better shot under stress. That’s great, but what about the rest of us? I’m 63 years old, reasonably healthy, but way past my physical prime, which was never all that prime in the first place. I am not athletic and not competitive and I have no interest in being a team player. Basically I just want to be left alone.

I do have the advantage of being physically imposing: 6’3”, 275 pounds. I’m pretty sure bad guys profile me and just decide to try a smaller victim. But sometimes bad people are desperate or stupid or they think they have something to prove and will take on a threat just to prove how macho they are, how in control, how intimidating. That’s why I carry a Ruger SR9c concealed IWB.

I don’t go to stupid places where there might be stupid people doing stupid things and I never have. But sometimes stupid people decide to go looking for new territory. Sometimes crazy people show up when and where you don’t expect and do things you wouldn’t think of. Sometimes religious or political or racist fanatics just decide it’s time to quit screwing around and just kill some folks to make a point. For those times I intend to be prepared to at least go down fighting.

But how prepared? Like I said, I carry the 9mm Ruger. I’m big enough (and fat enough) to get away with concealing a gun with a 14-round mag and I keep one in the chamber. I carry a cell phone. I don’t carry the extra 10-round mag and I don’t carry a combat knife or a field emergency medical kit. I’m not an “operator.” I don’t have the personality for it and it should be enough that I read about it and understand the concepts.

I’m just a guy going about my regular daily business and I really don’t see the need to be tooled up to the nines, prepared for any and all possible emergency situations, a couple dozen suicidal terrorists and an infinite number of zombies. I want to be able to put up a fight, protect myself and those innocents near me who might also be in danger, and either put the bad guy(s) down or at least survive until professional help arrives or I find a means of egress. That’s it.

I also know that mounting a strong defense is much safer than taking the offensive, so I’m going to be in the safest, most defensible location I can find, preferably with an exit available. I won’t be going around clearing rooms or looking for more bad guys. I’m willing to stand my ground and defend myself and others if necessary and even though I will not abandon those near to me, I know that I can’t save everyone and I’m not ready or willing to undertake a hostage rescue mission.

What I would like to find is some training within reasonable driving distance that includes realistic scenarios that an average person going about their everyday activities might encounter. I would like this training to be reasonably priced and not require the investment of more than one full day to complete, or to be broken into one-day segments on subsequent weekends. I want to know that the instructors are reasonable people setting up reasonable situations where they allow at least a possibility that I can figure out how to survive.

I don’t want know-it-all instructors creating no-win scenarios to try to convince me that the best choice is always to find the nearest exit and run away. While I’m not looking for a fight or a reason to shoot someone, I also don’t want to retreat to save my own ass only to learn later that someone I could have saved had been shot or kidnapped or raped. I truly believe that I would rather make a mistake and die than live with that on my conscience.

So, encounters with gang punks on the street; Quickie Mart/grocery store/Starbucks robberies; assault or rape in progress; single active shooter in a mall or at work; carjacking, or good old fashioned mugging. These are the kinds of things you or I are actually likely to encounter. Considering the state of the world today, maybe a one-day seminar on how to react to a mass attack by suicidal terrorists on a soft target would be worthwhile as well.

It just seems to me that the majority of this training could be done in a classroom and lecture setting with videos to make the points followed by walk-throughs of the different scenarios, followed by play acting with blue guns.

In the Army we trained with MILES (Multiple Integrated Laser Engagement System) equipment. Lasers on our M16 muzzles triggered by firing blanks, and laser receivers on our helmets and web gear. Beep-beep if the shot was close, steady beep and you were dead. We had a lot of fun running around in the woods and it did get the juices flowing to know shots were coming close, but I was “killed” three different times and that was a serious reality check.

It seems to me that training done with LaserTag equipment, even though they might not fully simulate the look and feel of real weapons, would be quite effective, a lot cheaper, and would not involve wearing so much distracting safety equipment. Nor would it require setting up expensive and bullet-proof shoot houses. The point is, for most people, to work through the scenarios and your best possible choices, not do a full-on simulation of real combat. Airsoft or Simunitions or live-fire shoot houses may get the adrenaline going, but is that level of expense and realism really necessary to get the point of the training through?

I can anticipate the comments already: Yes, but, it’s so much better to experience as close as possible to the real thing. How do you know how you’re going to act under stress if no one is shooting back? Training needs to be as realistic as possible. On and on.

Okay then, who is going to pay for my ammo or arrange for me to take four to six days off work or walk me through TSA screenings to schlep my weapons to some distant training sight AND make sure they are not ripped off at the baggage carousel,? Who is going to loan me an AR platform to train with? I sure can’t afford to go buy one. In a training regimen like I just described the instructor could provide familiarization and range time with an AR15 and an AK47 and several common pistol variants that one might need to pick up and use on the fly. For those of us without the financial resources to own and train with such weapons this would be invaluable.

So why is most of the training we read about either SOCOM or Zombie war or tactical field exercises? The only other kind usually found is the basic NRA firearms familiarization courses or those classes required in places where you need a certain type of training to get a carry permit. (Or even just to buy a gun, how unconstitutional is that?) There does not seem to be any middle ground between the introductory courses and the full-on, hard core, in-house training. I may be hard-core in my political beliefs and my ethics and concepts of morality, but I am very middle-ground in how I live my life day to day, and I would truly love to find some middle-ground firearms classes that would train me to live there in reasonable security.


  1. avatar Jon says:

    What is really needed is a 3-gun competition using .22lr, then I could afford to do that !!!

    1. avatar peirsonb says:

      I missed the .22 LR part before…….at this point I think it would be cheaper for me to break down and buy an AR rather than a 3-gun competition’s worth of .22 LR….

  2. avatar CB says:

    You can find .22LR? I stopped looking back in March.

  3. avatar peirsonb says:

    I’ve been thinking about this too. When the time comes (i.e. the weather gets warmer again) I’m going to look into a training facility nearby that at least SOUNDS like a middle ground.

    Otherwise, Jon might not actually be that far off. I would venture that surviving is more about being able to think under extreme stress more than the actual tactics employed, in that case competition may not be that far off. Even simple contests like a skeet league could benefit skills like hitting a moving target, under the pressure of competition…

  4. There is plenty of training out there which is not “hard core”. It’s also possible to dry-practice the most important skills (especially a smooth, consistent draw with your own carry setup) in the comfort of your own home.

    1. avatar nerved says:

      Such as? Where exactly is “out there?” Are we talking Area 51? All fifty states?

    2. avatar Cliff H says:

      This is really the point I was trying to make, and an e-mail I sent to RF, that there is no easy way to find out about such places, if they exist, nor to get any input relating as to the quality of their classes or the type of training you might experience there.

      I suggested that perhaps an “Angie’s List” sort of feature might be a solution, but couldn’t figure a way to include it in this article.

      1. avatar peirsonb says:

        Google “[your area] firearms training”

        I was able to find at least 3 within a two hour drive. Your mileage may vary with location, but is bet there are at least a tactical pistol class or two around. I haven’t taken one (yet) but the closest one to me sounds like a couple of notches above personal protection outside the home and MANY notches below what Asymetric offers.

        1. avatar Cliff H says:

          Following this post, and some pretty good comments, I think I may start doing some further research on the availability and quality of mid-level training. Bottom line, though, and even your response points this out, is that there is no current resource for the average shooter to find this information or evaluate the quality of the courses. That’s the direction I think we need to head in.

  5. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

    I would suggest some “middle ground” exercise regime. Most of us sit behind a desk pushing paper and typing on a computer. I didn’t focus on my health until a few yrs ago when my pastor received a death threat and I was asked to carry my weapon to church. It dawned on me that I couldn’t guarantee I would be able to take down a criminal if need be. I get up every weekday morning and put in time on the elliptical or the bowflex. It has made a world of difference with respect to my current training and carry.

    1. avatar Ralph says:

      I knew that it was possible to have sex on an elliptical or Bowflex, but every morning? You’re a machine.

      Just don’t let your wife find out.

      1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

        Ralph – I wanna party with you Pal.

  6. avatar Salvatore says:

    I can only think that there is not enough demand for the middle ground. The vast majority of gun owners will only take a manditory basics course to get their permit. And the small minority of dedicated shooters are often willing to take the hard core stuff. Probably few want the middle ground. To me it would make perfect sense for local ranges to host and offer single day classes on practical concealed carry defensive shooting. Very few offer that however. Ranges usually offer a boatload of basic courses, and host the advanced stuff by traveling trainers once in a while. The advanced stuff is not always applicable anyway for the concealed carry civilian. One thing that drives me nuts is how all of these advanced classes for handgun do all of the training from open holsters, never using concealment. That might be fine training for a police officer, but hardly relevant to CCW people. Of course, I am convinced part of that is liability, as drawing from concealment is probably more difficult to conduct safely in a class.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      You may be right about demand, but with the continued increase in CCW, I tend to think it’s more of a missed marketing opportunity than a lack of demand. I should think a lot of people would make use of otherwise neglected range facilities if they were offered a realistic package of training, scenarios, range time and ammo at a single, reasonable price.

      If such things are available here in Washington Tacoma area it is certainly not apparent in any advertising I have seen, which means if it is available they are doing a very poor job of marketing it.

  7. avatar nerved says:

    Very good topic. I’ve thought this myself many times. I hoped to see three digits of comments. Maybe revisit this, Cliff? Thanks for bringing it up.

  8. avatar ST says:

    I get Cliff H.’s point.Sometimes trainers can jump the shark with scenarios and drills,and it doesn’t help that many trainers are barely qualified themselves to shoot safely.

    That being said,there’s a bug reason why us ordinary Joes need to train like and in some ways beyond the Police and Military -because unlike them,if trouble pays us a visit we won’t have backup .More to the point,there are some genuinely evil people walking the Earth,and some of them have skillsets equal to the best shooters we know.Observe a case Ayoob documented of a citizen witnessing a cop getting shot during a traffic stop-and the subsequent gunfight between the wanted felon and the hapless citizen with his Glock 26 .That midnight trip to 7-11 got more interesting then he planned.

    If I have to face down Matix Jr,I’ve got a 19 round Beretta loaded with +p+. and a spare 15 rounder just in case. The lethal force incident Cliff or I may face could be a midnight robbery….or a terrorist attack on our local malls by skilled thugs with rifles.No one ever said after a deadly fight that they wished for less ammo or less training.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      As for more ammo these days… (joke)

      I would wish for everyone to get all the training they can stand. And all the range time they can stand, and all the experience they can stand, but the question is, what is the reality?

      You could find yourself in a mall in Nairobi. Or in a shoot out with a deranged or drugged or drunk punk with an AK that just killed a cop. We are a nation of 300+ million and the Interweb and I’m sure examples of worst-case scenarios can be found for any situation, but they are worst-case and they are not everyday occurrences. I am advocating for reasonable levels of training and situational awareness for the average person for the most likely situations. Past that, all bets are off and we can only do our best.

      1. avatar Michael B. says:

        I’ve often said that places like Front Sight are amusement parks for firearms enthusiasts and I stand by that.

        Training should be practical.

        I propose we create a course that teaches the following:

        – How to avoid sketchy people and sketchy situations.

        – How to become proficient at drawing and firing your weapon in as safe a manner as possible.

        – How to get in decent enough shape so you can run a reasonable distance without being winded.

        – How to shut your mouth and call Saul if something does happen (unlikely), so you don’t screw yourself over by talking to the cops.

        That’s pretty much all I need. YMMV.

        Most of us are not fast-roping out of helicopters into Taliban strongholds or getting into running gun battles with bad guys.

        Firearms training needs less Mittyesque scenarios and more realism.

  9. avatar Eric_in_NOLA says:

    I happen to be lucky to have VATA Group in my back yard and have trained with them extensively. They are the guys who do the First Person Defender vids on GunTalk TV – watch them- they are exactly what you want. Real life scenario based force on force drills. Call them and ask them for recommendations in your area- they may know someone.

    They offer weekend courses with each day being a standalone day. If you have had the phase one of the training then you can sign up for phase 2. The range time is all about fundamentals and honing them so that you can hit what you want to hit. The simuntions and force on force is all about applied fundamentals.

    IMNSHO laser tag is junk- why settle for close enough when airsoft and simunitios are available and allow you to train like you would fight and you get the “pain penalty.” With Airsoft there is little chance for serious injury other than eyes so wear some glasses, get some friends, and go for it. Think up scenarios and practice them – it ain’t hard.

    I bought a Glock 19 last week and on the same afternoon bought an airsoft gas gun online from airsplat with working slide that fits the same holster as the real pistol, controls are the same, weight is the same, it is a great training tool and cost less than 150 rounds of self defense ammo.

    Regarding clearing rooms- you want to get from “point A” to the safest most defensible spot preferably with an exit? Unless you start at that sweet spot then you got to move and movement = danger. Danger is mitigated by being cautious and not exposing yourself anymore than needed in order to get an idea of what is in the hall/room you are about to cross/enter. Do some force on force with some buddies and see how many times you get popped when you blunder into a room vs. when you pie it and then decide to enter or not based on what you see. “Clearing a room” is not some high speed low drag operator stuff- it is about decision making vs. panicked flight from a perceived threat into a potential real threat. Sometimes your “point A” may be the best spot because for that moment you are safe. You have the rest of your life to decide to enter into a room, how long that is is based on how good your decision making is.

    As far as medical training- get some. You carry a gun, guns punch holes in people that cause bad things to happen to the body- you know and accept that because you carry a gun to punch holes in bad people. Bad people sometimes punch holes in good people and cause very bad things to happen to very good people; people like you and your loved ones, little kids in schools, patrons in theaters or cafeterias. In a gun fight you must plan on getting hit or someone you care about getting hit and you must plan on being without help for 30 min if not longer. If you don’t know what to do to stop the bad things from happening to the good persons that was shot then what is the point of stepping into the role of “good guy with a gun”?

    It has nothing to do with being an “operator” and everything to do with being a very fragile, breathing, jello mold (with your organs being the chunks of fruit and marshmallows), wrapped in a thin layer of saran wrap. Knowing how to keep the blood where it is suppose to be and the air where it is supposed to be are easy to learn skills…when learned in a class room and not OJT on your wife or kid after your first defensive gun use on what is now the worst day of your life.

  10. avatar Renegade Dave says:

    All I can think about with this article is the stupid red flag the lawyers over at Ruger put on their gun to indicate a loaded chamber. Whenever I see someone at our IDPA weekly match with a bi-tone gun, I wonder what they’re running. After load and make ready and that stupid flag comes up and I know immediately.

    1. avatar Bruce L. says:

      Dave, I also have a Ruger SR9c, and like the pop up flag. Doesn’t effect shooting, drawing, holstering or anything else. What’s to dislike?

    2. avatar Cliff H says:

      I am neutral about the flag. I always carry cocked, locked, one in the chamber, slide safety on. I can see the flag if I take time to look, but I really don’t need to. I think the biggest advantage to the flag, other than safety PR for Ruger marketing, is that you can feel it in the dark or without looking down at the pistol and you KNOW there is one in the fire pit ready to go BOOM.

      By the way, I really like my SR9c. Unlike the picture at the top of the post I also have a Crimson Trace mounted in front of the trigger guard and I generally carry the full-size 14 round extended mag.

      And, I was an Army medic 91A20 for 6 1/2 years and an EMT1. First aid training is great, having a kit is great, but is it realistic for everyone? Sometimes you just have to admit that there are going to be casualties on both sides. You cannot prepare for every eventuality or every situation.

  11. avatar dwb says:

    yeah, it would be nice, but i am lucky if I get to the range to put 25-50 holes in paper on a regular basis, with money leftover for lunch. It’s amazing how fast you can blow through $40 in ammo. Scenario training is ok, but the odds of that scenario happening are zilch. If I AM going to do scenario training, it may as well be zombies, that’s fun. I’d settle for a decent place I can shoot steel.

  12. avatar Pulatso says:

    Last weekend I visited a new indoor range. Florida in the early fall, and no air conditioning (just giant ventilation fans). So I was already sweating quite a bit when a shell casing bounced off the wall I was next to, tipped the edge of my safety glasses, and landed inside them, resting on my cheek. After a brief panic (I almost tried to grab the glasses with the hand that was still holding the gun), I pulled my glasses off and let the brass fall. My cheek right under my right eye was burning, tears were streaming down my face from pain, but I was paying by the half hour so I kept shooting. Between the sweat and tears I was partly blinded in my aiming eye, but I still managed to keep the shots inside a one foot square at 7 yards (on a new gun at that) which was good enough for me at that moment.

  13. avatar Joel says:

    Cliff, with the exception of being 6’3″ and 275 lbs (5’8″, 180lbs.) I could’ve written this letter (I’m also 63). Well done.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      Thank you. I do try to bring us back from the tacticool precipice when I can. 😉

      I am hoping that the post will bring some interesting and helpful comments to address the problem, rather than just gripes. A comment above about First Person Defender is the sort of thing that helps because their videos are generally informative even if you don’t go for the live simunition training. But just as RF has commented a few times, I don’t always agree with every solution they propose. In their case I think the most important thing is that it gets you thinking about options and how easy it is to make a (really bad) mistake.

      I have never been to a LaserTag location, but I believe they like to use ray-gun looking weapons (less real world scary, I guess) and unrealistic indoor areas. I suspect they tend to be as useful for real-world training as paintball “Capture the Flag” games are to military combat. What I would like to see is laser pistols that look and feel more like real handguns so that scenarios can be practiced without bulky safety equipment. Cheap and easy, with positive feedback of success or failure. Following that, if the student wants a more realistic experience with the pain feedback, etc., and is willing to invest the time and money, I think simunitions is a pretty good idea.

      As for Airsoft, I may look into that. I’m not sure how much safety equipment is really required because I don’t know the muzzle velocity of those pellets. See, even I can learn something!

      1. avatar dwb says:

        about 300-400 fps with a .20 gram pellet (about 3 gr), delivering a walloping 0.75 ft-lb of energy. Some can punch a paper plate at 7 yards, some not. On bare skin, it’ll hurt, might welt, but thick winter clothing is enough.

        Lasertag won’t help much on the tactical skills IMO, but it sure is fun with the kids. Yes, unrealistic ray-gun devices as well as a receiver doohickey on your body.

      2. avatar Eric_in_NOLA says:

        Air soft using the standard CO2 cartridges gets you around 330-350 FPS shooting an 8 mm plastic bb. it stings but not bad- like snapping a rubber band on your hand. There are single shot spring airsoft which I do not think are worth while as they do not function like a real semi auto. You want a co2 or gas gun with blow back action (slide reciprocates). Expect to pay $100-150 for a good one. There are high end ones out there that you can drop serious coin on as with any hobby.

      3. avatar Larry says:

        Asside from being 65 Clif, I match you exactly I have been cc since I was 18 and until ten years ago I packed my Dad’s Walther PPK in 7.65. And when max conceal is needed I still do but most of the time I carry a .45 colt with a short barrel as for ten years I have been doing SASS cowboy action shooting so with the thousands of rounds I shoot a year(yes I have a Dillon and I hand load and cast my own slugs from wheel weights for competition ) so I now carry the gun I am most proficient with and even though it has but six shots (Ruger with transfer bar) I know I can puts them where I need them in an emergency.

        Point is get good with one thing and make that your carry… I have a 1911 and an ace .22 rim fire floating chamber conversion kit and next year I will be shooting the SASS Wild Bunch matches so I plan to switch over to the 1911 in .45 ACP as my carry gun after I am good enough with it. And be able to practice with the exact same gun with the .22s on the cheap.
        That is my compromise but I too would like to find middle of the road training
        Great artical

      4. avatar bontai Joe says:

        I’m 57 years old, also 6′-3″ and a svelt 295 lb. I played laser tag over 20 years ago and was huffing and puffing after 30 minutes and was “killed” multiple times. At present, I have a gimpy knee, a VERY bad back and suffer from COPD, which means I’m huffing and puffing most of the time. I’m not going to do any Rambo stuff, I just want to protect my loved ones and myself should the need arise as I make for the nearest exit should crap happen. I used to shoot bullseye competitively, but the current “tactical” games are far beyond my abilities. I read your article and thought, hey, this guy is just like me! My local gun club runs a small scale practical pistol match once a month, that is almost doable for slow old guys like us. You might want to check into some of the smaller clubs in your area to see if they have a similar program, something that you can run through with a single box of 50 rounds and not have to climb ladders or swing on a rope.

    2. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

      I am also 5’8 and 180, but at 42, I figure there is still hope

  14. avatar Comrade X says:

    To each his own.

    There are those that say you need to train this way or that, for this or that but IMHO it kinda is still a free country so you can decide for your self but as for me & my family I am preparing for this;


    Maybe we are not headed in that direction, sure would like to hope not but with every passing day methinks we seem to be just getting another day closer so my preparation is with that in mind which Cliff if you read this book and it hits a nerve, you might just want to reconsider your training too and if not;

    To each his own!

  15. avatar Ralph says:

    @CliffH, this was a good article and mirrors what I’ve been saying to RF for a couple of years now. The training out there may be solid if you intend to fight house to house in Stalingrad, but it isn’t “real world” for me.

    I want a trainer to teach me how to cover my own six so I can get out of Dodge with my @ss safely attached. I’m not tacticool, I’m not a ninja and I’m older than you and only slightly younger than dirt. So where’s the training for me?

  16. avatar Not So 1337 says:


    I’ve been researching various laser tag systems for a possible business, and this is one I’ve been looking at. The M4 unit can take any AR15 accessory, or anything that fits on a rail for that matter. The felt recoil is supposed to be about 30% of a .223 and 75% of a 9mm for pistols. No hearing protection needed, molle vests as the sensors. Not sure if I’ll end up going with this, but its definitely interesting.

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      Now THAT’S what I’m talkin’ about! Well, except for the obvious military focus of the experience, but they are selling a game play, not real world training. Still, they have the right equipment and all the necessary facilities if they should want to go to actual training scenarios, and that’s a good thing.

      More like this, anyone?

  17. avatar Glockinpocket says:

    Your letter sounded very much like me. Except that I’m 70, 5/10 and 250. Too old to fight and too fat to run. Getting back into shape just isn’t an option any more. I carry two Glock Model 36 .45s, one on my left ankle for when I’m sitting down, and one in my right front pocket for when I’m standing up. With the new Crimson Trace lasers, I can put them all in the four-inch black circle at 50 ft. I would be most happy with some training in the line of real life scenarios. What do you do if you’re in the 7-11 and a stick-up happens? Or a restaurant, or jewelry store, or hotel lobby? How do you react to a bunch of young punks walking towards you on the street calling you names with racial slurs? I know what I’d do, but where would I stand legally? Maybe the old adage ‘pick up your brass and don’t leave any hostile witnesses’ is still the best bet . . .

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      Unfortunately, depending on when you purchased those Glocks, the rifling/lands of your barrel from a test-fired bullet is probably on a computer somewhere so that some hotshot CSI can figure out which pistol fired any recovered bullets.

      I guess the only option is to make sure that none of the BGs can testify against you (legally, of course), and to make sure it’s a good shoot. Which is where the need for this kind of training comes in.

    2. avatar jwm says:

      You don’t have to pick up brass if you use a revolver. Just sayin’.

  18. avatar Comrade X says:

    Dan; you should give credit where credit is due;

    “I yield to no man in sympathy for the gallant men under my command; but I
    am obliged to sweat them tonight, so that I may save their blood tomorrow.”
    – General Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson

    1. avatar Cliff H says:

      X, I had never seen the origin of that quote before, I thought it came from some smart-ass Drill Instructor. Thanks for the historical perspective.

      In Dan’s defense, the title of the article was penned by me when I sent it in.

  19. avatar Jeff says:

    judging by the average physique of the typical SHTF prepper, you may need to sweat a ton.

  20. avatar ensitue says:

    “Do what you can, with what you have, where your at.”
    Lord Mountbatten when summing up the ethic that saw him through WW2

  21. avatar Sway says:

    Honestly if you are looking for a middle ground place to train check out the recent article by DrVino about his class at Front Sight. The training is extremely friendly, and designed to get you comfortable operating a firearm in a daily carry fashion.

  22. avatar bCs says:

    Magpul has some decent videos (amazon has them)….find some land, do your own drills: draw, re holster, and do some shooting in between.

  23. avatar Louis Bonham says:

    For those of you in Central Texas (or who’re up for a trip to Austin), check out Steve Smith with Asgard NTG (http://www.asgardtraining.org/). Steve’s a British Army veteran who does training for LEOs, private security/close protection, Texas Nat’l Guard, etc., but also has lots of tactical courses for pretty much whatever skill level you want (from complete beginners on up). Classes are very small (10-12 max.) so you get lots of personal instruction and trigger time, and Steve is a pleasant and excellent instructor. And the costs are very, very reasonable (typically $120/day; you supply your own food and ammo). [I’ve been training with Steve for the past couple of years. RF and some of the other TTAG folks are, I believe, going to be shooting with Steve in the near future, and I’ll let them report further.]

    My point is that there are excellent real world trainers out there for those of us who have no desire to become doorkickers or Rambo wannabes, but who want to learn the right tactics and techniques for the situations we may actually encounter. And you don’t have to spend a ton of cash to do so.


  24. avatar Greygrandpa says:

    Hear Hear!

    Real world training for an old timer with arthritic knees would be welcome and worth spending money on.

  25. avatar Sarah Natividad says:

    I was fortunate enough to find a retired combat veteran willing to teach me how to shoot and show me some drills I can practice on my own, so I can learn to shoot while moving, shoot at multiple targets, and shoot from different positions. He did this just for the fun of it. I can’t afford training courses, and given that I carry a very small gun designed solely for self-defense I don’t need to train for hostage scenarios or anything fancy. This really met my needs and my price point. I recommend it to anyone in my situation.

  26. avatar Vince says:

    There is lots of material out there on the internet, from youtube videos to military training manuals. You can certainly practice what you see in the videos in your own yard, or home, etc using Airsoft guns. You can find reasonably priced Airsoft guns that mimic in size, weight, and function, most popular firearms, are perfectly safe as long as you wear goggles, and provide tactile feedback.

  27. avatar ADC USN/Ret says:

    Sounds like you are doing the best you can with what you have, and still thinking…

    Be assured that the training that you experienced in the past will serve you well in the future. Good on ya.

    My Dad was whining about all the immigrants taking the benefits HE voted in, in Maine. I told him he is getting what he voted for. A big circle around the state and cities, that depicted areas with great benefits, in an immigrants compound. He no longer votes that way. But more important, Gov LePage is in the process of reducing those benefits. Good on him too.

    I’m not the man I used to be either. The thought that comes to my mind is the same one that carried me this far. “Do the best you can with what you have, and pray that it is enough.” Can’t do more than that.

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