Ruger Security-9 9mm semi-automatic pistol
courtesy Ruger

Ruger’s just announced a new double stack 9mm semi-auto that’s aimed directly at the GLOCK 19 and M&P M2.0 Compact. Like the others, the Security-9 will pack 15+1 rounds in a four-inch barreled polymer frame. The big difference: Ruger’s new gun will have an MSRP of $379. That’s almost $200 less than the GLOCK or the S&W. Here’s their press release . . .

Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. (NYSE: RGR) is proud to introduce the new Security-9® pistol. Ideal for everyday carry and self-defense, the Security-9 is an affordable, rugged, mid-sized centerfire pistol that provides everyday security in the perfect caliber, size and price point.

Chambered in 9mm Luger and utilizing a 15-round, double-stack magazine, the Security-9 strikes the perfect balance between a compact and full-size pistol. It is small and light enough to be easily concealed and comfortably carried, yet has twice the capacity of slimmer 9mm Luger pistols.

At the range, both new and advanced shooters will appreciate the easy-to-rack slide; short, crisp trigger pull; eye-catching sights; and ergonomic, textured grip frame. The American-made Security-9 is constructed around a rigid, one-piece, precision-machined, aluminum chassis with full-length guide rails; a blued, through-hardened alloy steel slide and barrel; and a high-performance, glass-filled nylon grip frame with an integral accessory rail.

The Secure Action used in the Security-9 is the same as the LCP® II and is derived from the reliable and proven hammer-fired LCP fire control system, combining the smooth trigger pull of the LCP with the short, crisp feel and positive reset of a single action. Safety features include a bladed trigger safety, external manual safety, neutrally balanced sear with significant engagement and strong spring tension, and a hammer catch to help prevent the hammer from contacting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled.

“The Security-9 is a yet another example of what we do best here at Ruger: deliver new products to the market that combine innovation and value,” said Ruger President and CEO, Chris Killoy. “We expect our customers are going to be excited to buy the Security-9; they will definitely enjoy shooting it.”

The new Security-9 features a 4” barrel and weighs just 23.7 ounces with an empty magazine. It ships with two alloy steel magazines and a cable locking device.

Ruger Security-9 Specs:

  • Model Number: 3810
  • Caliber: 9mm Luger
  • Capacity: 15+1
  • Barrel Material: Alloy Steel
  • Barrel Finish: Blued
  • Barrel Length: 4″
  • Overall Length: 7.24″
  • Sights: Drift Adjustable 3-Dot
  • Weight: 23.7 oz
  • Grip Frame: High-Performance Glass Filled Nylon
  • Slide Material: Through-Hardened Alloy Steel
  • Slide Finish: Blued
  • Slide Width: 1.02″
  • Height: 5″
  • Grooves: 6
  • Twist: 1:10″ RH
  • CA Approved: No
  • MA Approved & Certified: No
  • Suggested Retail: $379.00

For more information on the Security-9 or to learn more about the extensive line of award-winning Ruger firearms, visit Ruger.com or Facebook.com/Ruger. To find accessories for the Security-9 and other Ruger firearms, visit ShopRuger.com or your local independent retailer of Ruger firearms.

About Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc.

Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc. is one of the nation’s leading manufacturers of rugged, reliable firearms for the commercial sporting market. As a full-line manufacturer of American-made firearms, Ruger offers consumers over 400 variations of more than 30 product lines. For more than 60 years, Ruger has been a model of corporate and community responsibility. Our motto, “Arms Makers for Responsible Citizens®,” echoes the importance of these principles as we work hard to deliver quality and innovative firearms.

121 COMMENTS

    • Not a “late entry” so to speak. The SR9/C has been around for a while. This just kinda sits pointlessly in between the two

    • As a general rule, Rugers tend to sell for about 75-80% of MSRP. That means that this pistol with an MSRP of $379 should actually sell for about $299 at my LGS.

      I don’t need one, but might well but one anyway at that price. I like Rugers, and I like mid-sized double stack 9’s. That new budget EC9s looks pretty interesting too. It’s MSRP is $299, so it should sell for about $229. That is PF9 price for a Ruger. I want one.

      The LCP and LCP I are darn cheap these days too.

      It is a great time to buy some Rugers (though I’ll wait for the bugs to get worked out first).

      Doesn’t this new pistol fit the same basic niche as the Ruger SR9 series, and the American pistol? What is the need for three different double stack polymer pistol lines?I

      I love my Security Six.

      • There are places taking pre-orders for the EC9s at around $220, so your street price prediction on this one is probably pretty close.

        I’m also a little confused on the need for three very similar pistol lines. Since this is a hammer-fired gun, I kind of get that it’s a little different niche than the SR and American, but it’s probably time Ruger retires the SR and simplifies the product line a little bit. I wonder if this gun will accept American magazines?

      • Well the security 6 is a wheel gun and has been out and about for quite some time now.
        That being said, I like my security 6 (.357 mag, 4 1/2″ barrel) alot too. But Ruger could do better releasing some more interesting handguns. They’ve kinda done the small frame 9mm double stack thing enough.
        Although I really like their new 1911 in 10mm.

        • Yeah, they have the Security Six, which was a model line expansion. They should have just renamed the 9E, its already the budget choice, I actually like it better than the American, its proven, its assembly and engineering have to have been fully paid off at this point. This thing just seems like a useless extension.

          Smith took the paid for Sigma line and turned it into the SDVE, which I like better than the M&P, after the Apex trigger.

        • I know the Security 9 has nothing to do with the Security 6. I just wanted to mention how much I like my Security Six.

          Still, this looks like a good budget gun, and Glocks are overpriced for what they are (though I like my G19 quite well).

    • Luckily I am, so I’ll be keeping my eye on this. I really like the fact it can be taken down with out pulling the trigger.

    • Mediocre? Perhaps. Did you notice that this is a HAMMER fired semi-auto? I have been wanting a medium/full-size, double-stack, hammer-fired, semi-auto manufactured in the U.S. for more than 7 years and up until now, none existed as far as I know.

      I love me hammer fired semi-autos.

      • Ruger striker-fire 9s are known to not fire Winchester White Box. I hope the hammer fired version.

      • Coulda bought a SIG SP2022 7 years ago then. Hell, you coulda gotten one for around $350 then.

        As for the Ruger, I like what they’re thinking, I just haven’t thought all that much of their execution with the pistols. Still, at that price point, they’re the only ones I would buy.

      • FNX pistols are manufactured in South Carolina, I think. I have the .40 and love it. Between Glock 17 and 19 size.

        • Micah,

          Dang it, now I have to look at the FNX-40 pistol.

          Although I am choking on their price: it looks like I could purchase two of the new Ruger Security-9 handguns for the price of one FNX-40.

      • @ uncommon_sense
        You must not have been wanting that bad or unwilling to fork out that much scratch.
        The Beretta PX4 http://www.beretta.com/en-us/px4-storm-compact/
        has been available for a number of years. Personally, I’d prefer the PX4 over the Security 9 any day of the week and twice on Sunday. However, there are some features I do like about the Security 9 and that’s the grip along with the price point which is quite attractive as the PX4 is going to be more money.
        Another consideration and this purely personal, but I’m a traditionalist and don’t like an exposed hammer. Yes I know they can snag on cloths and blah blah blah. It’s not my intent to start another tired old war on hammer vs Striker or exposed hammer vs shaved, but it’s purely personal, I like a hammer hanging out there. The PX4 has one and the Security 9 appears to be a shaved off, which is nice for carrying and self defense, no doubt.

      • @ uncommon_sense
        You must not have been wanting that bad or unwilling to fork out that much scratch.

        The Beretta PX4 http://www.beretta.com/en-us/px4-storm-compact/
        has been available for a number of years and I believe it is US Made at Beretta’s Maryland plant and not imported from Italy.

        Personally, I’d prefer the PX4 over the Security 9 any day of the week and twice on Sunday. However, there are some features I do like about the Security 9 and that’s the grip along with the price point which is quite attractive as the PX4 is going to be a lot more money.

        Another consideration and this is purely personal, but I’m a traditionalist and like an exposed hammer. Yes yes, they can snag on cloths and blah blah blah. It’s not my intent to start another tired old war on hammer vs Striker or exposed hammer vs shaved, but it’s purely personal, I like a hammer hanging out there. The PX4 has an exposed hammer and the Security 9 appears to be unexposed, which is nice for carrying and self defense, no doubt.

        • MLee,

          I had no idea that Baretta made a hammer-fired handgun in the U.S. I would have been very interested depending on the price.

        • I have several PX4’s (including an Inox .40), and they are all made in Italy. I don’t believe the PX4 has ever been manufactured in the USA.

      • For once we agree on something even though you do not realize why I like them. Its because the hammer fired guns have light years more reliable ignition that the anemic ignition system of pre-loaded striker fired systems like the Glock that are only 64 per cent cocked. Try firing off a high primed empty case as an experiment and the Glock will fail every time you pull the trigger while the hammer fired gun will drive the primer down into the pocket and still have enough energy to ignite the primer. When you think of how much ignition power is slowed down in cold weather and in conditions of dust and dirt the hammer fired guns makes way more sense especially for the military. Supposedly the new Sig that was adopted by the U.S. Military is 100 per cent cocked so that may be one reason it was chosen over the anemic ignition system of the Glock.

        I think to with the almost total destruction of the U.S. Middle Class the big price difference over the Glock will be a no brainier for most people. Why spend 200 bucks more for an inferior Glock and a Glock is a much more dangerous pistol to carry because it has no manual safety which has resulted in many, many, needless deaths and maiming’s.

        I think Ruger has a real winner this time both mechanically. safety wise and price wise.

        • @ cisco kid
          Wish I knew who you finally agreed with 🙂
          Can’t pinpoint exactly where my high distaste for the GLOCK originated. Perhaps as it is with many things, the looks. GLOCKS are just plain ugly. Striker fired is another reason along with the GLOCK fans who seem to get down and pray to the almighty GLOCK god. I find GLOCKS way too common and ordinary for my taste. I wants something with more class than an ugly-ass, striker fired GLOCK.

        • You seem to be confusing the % which the striker is cocked at rest with its ability to fully strike a primer; ALL strikers are 100% cocked when they fire.

      • Some people reported peenng at the slide/barrel lockup. I believe the peening reported was not detrimental.

      • Not the 9… but the 40 and 45 had lots of feeding and ejection issues. Never saw a 9 used but the 45 and 40 were not functional regardless of ammo or shooter. The 45 was accurate but the malfunctions were disappointing. After watching a 40 have identical issues and seeing some very frustrated and dissatisfaction owners first hand I decided this was a platform to avoid. We recommended they contact ruger and ruger had a jackass response “try different ammo.” They insisted that the owner buy multiple brands of ammo and stick with what worked. They were not interested in evaluating a brand new gun. The gun was traded for a 1911. It is a clear lose/lose when the gun and customer service fail..

        • And I’ve seen new Glock 19s that wouldnt function out of the box. And I’ve seen an SR40 gobbling some of the ugliest reloads I’ve ever seen.

          Anecdotal evidence isnt very productive.

        • Not anecdotal. Observed and witnessed. I know the internet is your safe space but folks need to know if a product doesn’t work. It’s okay that you don’t like Glocks but constantly flaming then on non glock threads shows desperation

  1. I’ve heard rumors that they’d discontinued the 9E, and this sounds like a very nice replacement at that price and with 2 magazines to boot.

    • I have to believe that most of the SR line is getting the boot, the only ones that will remain are the 10 rounders that are on the Cali and Mass approved lists.

      • The only CA compliant Ruger autoloader is the LC380.

        I bought a 10 round SR9C model 3317 in Colorado. The only difference between the 3317 and the 17 rd model 3314 is the magazine it ships with. There’s no reason to do away with the higher cap models, especially since you can’t even sell the 10 round version in CA.

        Colorado has a (mostly theoretical) 15 round limit.

    • Ruger still lists the 9E but Davidson’s no longer lists it, so i wonder. I love the 9E and shares the 17 rounders with the SR9C & SR9.

  2. Choice is good. Any thoughts on why Ruger went hammer fired?!? I’m maybe getting the cheapo EC9s and did have a 9E on layaway until I switched it. It looks much more like a SR9 than the buttugly American Pistol…

    • It’s hammer fired because the LCP II is awesome and this is just a really big LCP II. I will likely be buying one, though I might wait to see if they do a single stack.

      • Wait, a single stack 15 rd magazine? I don’t get it. Single stack is great fir a slimmer profile and better concealability, but that comes at the cost of round capacity. A single stack with 15 rounds would be longer and have a more obtrusive grip.

        • I like to get a 3″ .327 SP101, but I’d also like a lighter weight 3″ .327 mag.

          The list just keeps getting longer.

        • I want an SR9 with a full length slide and short SR9c handle. Maybe I could cut the handle down on the full size one.

      • Me too, but I wish it would be a 4 inch for the extra velocity. Yeah, I know the SP101 has the barrel length I want, but I don’t like their triggers.

        • Get a Wolff Spring Kit and install the 10 # hammer & 8# trigger spring; it will be beyond amazing and takes a whole 15 minutes. Make sure though that you DO NOT pull the trigger when the trigger group is out of the frame, just like the instructions say.

  3. Crowded market, late entry, yea yea yea. Ruger has been the brand to beat for the last 5 or so years. They have been flooding the market with a lot of affordable, reliable, and rather innovative guns that satisfy a lot of wants and needs. For cranking out so many new products they have also done a good job at not sacrificing quality control or customer service. This gun will give the S&W SD9VE a run for it’s money.

  4. Count me disappointed. A new ‘Security – 9’ that doesn’t involve a rotating cylinder with 9 chambers!?!

    • Yeah! One of the reasons I’d rather have a 9E over this is the SR9 magazines are quite easy to come by and for a low price.

    • “How many different kinds of mags can you people stomach?!”

      *BIG* truth in this.

      That’s why I have a soft spot for guns that use a magazine already in common use, like Glock.

      My first semi-auto years back, the Daewoo DP51, used inexpensive, common Smith mags in it…

    • That’s what I’ve been wondering. These days it seems most pistols ought to be hit with a mallet a few times. Just in case.

  5. Wake up Ruger!!! Blued alloy steel is WAY past good. Let’s try stainless, Tenifer, Melonite, nitride, etc!!! Hell! Even Cerakote! Ruger makes the BEST, but wake up!

    • I kinda like blued steel. But I’m guessing that you are right that this is a cheap gun. I like the features on this a lot (the looks less so), but I’d almost rather spend more and not worry that they cut corners somewhere.

  6. Love Ruger but my LCP II went back to the factory twice before they just traded it out. I’d wait a good 12-18 months on a new design from them now, they seem to have sadly endorsed a “rush to market” attitude without the factory QA to back it up

  7. I feel that Ruger is the best Firearms manufacturer in the world, in terms of quality for the price. I currently own several Ruger firearms and have had many others in the past. Is it just me or does the picture at the very top of this article really remind you of your old P series pistol like maybe a P95?

  8. I love my 9e. Don’t think I will change guns especially since it holds more ammo. The weight is perfect for a small woman.

    • Jennifer Miller,

      I am glad to hear that you found a handgun which is a good fit for you.

      Best of all, the Ruger 9e series seems to function flawlessly no matter what kind of ammunition you run through them.

      • My SR9C & 9E share the 17 round mags, are incredibly accurate, easy to shoot and point naturally. Also will function with several types/brands of ammo mixed in mag, just like all of my Rugers. Some people do not like striker guns and this hammer fired gun fills a need. If I did not already have so many Rugers I would grab one of these up, still might.

  9. It’s annoying that they list the slide width instead of frame width. I would consider giving this pistol a try if it is materially thinner than a glock 19. I got excited when I saw 1.02″, took a double take and realized they weren’t talking about total width. The only thing that keeps me from trading in my G19 is magazine prices and it is the thinnest controllable double stack 9mm I have found.

    • Ruger mags tend to be overpriced (at least compared to Glocks). Still, if this gun comes with 2, and sells for $299, that is pretty cool in my book. I like Rugers.

  10. What is with these crazy names on the slides in giant fonts, Honor guard, Security 9, Creed, century arms with their tp9, honorably mention – Springfield saint. What is wrong with a nice, obfuscated, Euro-style, inkjet printer model number for a name?

    Anyway, this gun seems strange, being hammer fired it seems to be more a Sig p250, hk USP compact, p30, or p2000 competitor than Glock 19. Except is this double action all the time? I thought the Ruger LCP was mostly cool because it was tiny, slim, and cheap. I didn’t know people wanted it in a bigger version.

    • It’s a bigger caliber than 380 so I would think it needs to be in a bigger version…at least for wimps like me. But hey my hats off to you if you’re the type that can shoot a pistol the size and weight of an LCP, except chambered in 9, all day.

      Also, if the trigger is similar to the LCP II, then Ruger will be taking my money right away because the LCP II has one of the best triggers I’ve ever felt.

  11. A safe prediction: the manual is going to contain a warning against carrying the gun with a round chambered. And then the Internet is going to pee is panties. It did happen to LCP II. Although, this one added a manual safety.

  12. I did not see a jumbo LCP II coming….I will be buying one.

    Yes..I am Ruger fan.

    Like the SR9….love the SR9c and LCP.

    If they made an SR9 that held 15 rounds, I think it would have looked about like this…onlly striker fired.

    Someone already coined Ruger Creed. I like the Creed and PPX. I hope its as slim as it looks.

    Saw a forum where they said Ruger had trademarked Security 9, 380, 40, and 45. This may be the new wave.

    Fun times…

  13. I do not need one of these, but a hammer fired double-stack, inexpensive (with a thumb safety…I actually prefer one) Ruger? Yeah, no. Sign me up. I’ll find a use for it.

    • … and made in the USA to boot!

      I am on the same page with you and will have to find a way to justify purchasing one of these.

      Serious question: will these have double-strike capability? If yes, then I WILL be buying one of these.

  14. I love Rugers. They provide plenty of bang-for-the-buck. I own 4 revolvers, 4 pistols, 5 10/22s, 4 bolt action rifles, 2 No.1 single shot rifles, 1 RPR rifle, 3 SR rifles, and 4 Red Label shotguns. That’s 1/3 of my collection. And I want more!

    • I’ve got you beat. Over 100 in the collection, around 50 of them Rugers. Have been shooting Rugers for 50 years. It all started with a 3 screw Single Six. Honestly, I’m a much bigger fan of Ruger revolvers than their pistols, especially some of the older ones, Speed & Service Sixes, 3 screw Blackhawks & Single Sixes, Alphacat Bearcats, etc though I have GPs, SPs, LRXs too, Single 10 & 9, like then all. I’m also a big fan of my Mini 14s and 10/22 rifles, and I picked up a AR556 last year. Nothing like Ruger durability, reliability, and value.

      Interestingly, most of my favorite pistols are euro. I love and have metal frame hammer Berettas, Sigs, CZs, CZ clones, Walthers, Stars, etc etc. I have a strong preference for metal frames over plastic, and hammer over striker, when it comes to pistols. I don’t have the least bit of interest in any Glock made. I do have a 9E and LC9s that are functional but I only bought them because I got good deals and they are Rugers. I have all the metal frame P Series 9s. They are a bit bulky, but built like tanks like all Ruger revolvers except the LCRs, keepers. I have 2 hard-to-find P93DCs I particularly like. I like the SR22 & MK 22s too. No one does 22s better than Ruger, rifles, revolvers, or pistols.

      I’m personally encouraged by the new offering, and plan to get one at the first opportunity. Finally a Ruger 9 with a hammer again. I guess the 1911 9mm has one, but different price range. I’d prefer the hammer were exposed, SA/DA, but this will work. The price looks like a great value, it is light, thin, short, and fairly high cap for a carry size 9, and the price looks great. I’ll try to ignore the plastic, look forward to adding one.

  15. I think this is a targeted market weapon. Some armed security guard companies and perhaps some LE units require a DA hammer fired weapon with a safety. Here in Florida the BoA guards carry a 6 shooter when the average crook is most likely to have a stolen 15 semi auto. Be patient and it will soon be developed into a range of actions like the very successful LC9 series of guns. I have several Rugers and their mags are interchangeable depending on size ie: SR9 -SR9c-9E, where as all my Sigs require different mags.

  16. Over the years, Ruger has applied for trademarks for many gun names they never used in anticipation of future use and/or simply to have them in hand and protected from anyone else. ar 15 lower receiver

  17. The Pros I see are is it is thin at an 1″ on the slide. Hopefully the rest of the pistol stays close to this width which would make it thinner than the Glock. The edges of the gun and sights appear more rounded than the Glock’s.

    The Cons are for me as a left hander it appears to be a right handed gun only with the controls and magazine release on the same side. I do have a SR9 which has ambidextrous controls and release. Unfortunately I hate how it shoots. I shoot much better with my Glocks than I do with the SR9.

    I like Rugers a lot and have 7 of them. Other than that SR9 they all are exceptional guns.

  18. A manual safety, thumbs up. I read the ruger.com site too. It sounds like they are saying there is a full length alum. rail. That would be amazing. I’d love to see some targets shot, and some photos of the gun’s innards.

    At ruger.com they mention that one reason for the hammer action is that it reduces racking force required compared to striker. My wife could rack my Springfield XD when I bought it, but now can’t. That XD recoil spring is very stiff.

  19. Hmmm…. $379 MSRP, and as noted here, actual price tends to be 20% or so south of that.

    Just waiting to see how many magazines they ship with. I picked up an SR9E for a song, but had to scout around until I found a 3 pack of magazines for it since they wanted $50 each for spares.

    • And you have nailed down the essence of the truth about guns and all the self proclaimed experts, the so called “armed intelligentsia”. What a joke.

  20. I think to with the almost total destruction of the U.S. Middle Class the big price difference over the Glock will be a no brainier for most people. Why spend 200 bucks more for a Glock and a Glock is a much more dangerous pistol to carry because it has no manual safety which has resulted in many, many, needless deaths and maiming’s.

    I think Ruger has a real winner this time both safety wise and price wise.

    .

    • Glock is not a more dangerous pistol and the lack of an external safety is not what has lead to more neglect discharges. People being reckless has lead to those negligent discharges.

      • People being people leads to ALL manner of accidents. It is simply too easy to have a mistake with a Glock if you are human. Some of my friends that have Glocks will not carry carry a chambered round, don’t trust them.

  21. Does it come with the same Ruger ridiculous can’t fire it without a magazine feature? If so, I won’t be getting it. Yeah, yeah, yeah…. I’ve heard it all before. Sig all the way… and the heavy metal hammer fired versions for me…. they do best with suppressors anyway, something to do with their lock time. Sorry if you don’t live in a suppressor friendly state…. Move!!

  22. So this is a single action, concealed hammer autoloader designed to be carried cocked and locked with a thumb safety and trigger safety?

  23. A 9mm version of the LCPll? Forget it. Yes, the LCP ll triggers are unsafe. Horrible trigger, insane loose free play on first stage, then a short takeup and then a firing bang. Ruger advertises it as short and Crisp. Seems Ruger cannot make up their minds. They said the LCPll is safe, yet a huge number of people totally adament it is not. Yet, now they do the same with this new Nine but add a trigger safety. So if the LCP ll was so safe, why does this gun need one?
    LCP’s have never been a gun that would go very long at the range over time. Many cracks in the Polymer frames, split rails, and on and on. They used aluminum that had no steel supports in the frame. Now this gun a bigger version? Forget it. I would never consider any gun from the cheaply made LCPll. I will stick with my SR9C a proven platform, and the LC9S. Never another LCP again.
    Ruger is moving to cheap guns. Will this hurt them in the future? I am already to move on. Will stick with their Revolvers, but no more semi-auto’s.

      • Simply do a Google search, You will see cracked frames, split rails etc. I have a number of pictures, but do not know how to post them, or can post them here. Regardless, I would not in any way shoot plus P ammo out of a LCP of any version, nor this copy of a LCP just enlarged. Personally cannot understand why anyone would want to own one other than cost, but then the SR9C can be purchased for about the same. And my God, break down a Security 9 and then compare the SR9C. If you cannot see the difference in Quality, then well?

  24. Hey , I’ve been waiting for my boys at Ruger to bring back the P series pistols and it looks like I got my wish and maybe more . A P Series Ruger with a little better trigger , in a more compact size with modern technology on weight loss . I’m in all day for under three bucks . Can’t wait to try one out .

      • Lol, no way are these cheap aluminum chasis guns Plus P rated. Heck the LCP’s could not handle standard ammo with a lot of rounds fired down range. The Ruger American is “Sustained Plus P”. It has a stainless steel chassis and barrel. I owned a number of LCP’s, If you want to shoot often, stay away from these guns. Get a solid gun. Ruger is turning out these cheap guns and they will pay in the end. They had a great reputation of building guns built like tanks for a fair cost. Now this cheap garbage.
        The only good deal would be the Economy version of the LC9S. I can attest they hold up well after thousands of ammo down range. LCP’s, forget it.

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