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Quote of the Day: Diagnosing the Problem Edition

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“…the last time there was a massacre at Ft. Hood, back in 2009, the perpetrator was a provider of psychiatric care, not a patient. Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was not clinically insane, unless the religious zealotry that drove him to kill 13 people can be classified as lunacy. And, given that much of the Republican Party base is made up of religious zealots with guns, no Republican will be tempted to make that diagnosis.” –  David Horsey in Ft. Hood shooting is part of the scenery in a gun-crazy nation [at latimes.com]

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  1. Well done good and faithful patriot. RIP

    Perhaps his family could use some support of the financial kind? Between cancer and a protracted legal battle, I’m sure money could be an issue. Any way of contributing to honor the man? It would be nice to speak with our treasure as well as our hearts.

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  2. One with an opinion…why are you giving it weight? We all know anti-gunners exist, report on how to take them down or present counter points. Do some reporting…just not cut and paste.

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  3. I am retired military and carried a weapon for a good part of my time ( 21 years ). Most of the time I was on a flight crew. As such we had to shoot every year with the pistol, so why am I not allowed to carry under HR 218?

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  4. So, this college educated jacka$$ has no clue that there is already and effective and functioning background check system in America? Really? How much crack does this a$$wipe smoke in a day?

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    • Whatcha mean by “effective”? We spend billions on it every year, and what started his piehole moving was a shooting by a man who passed a vaunted background check just weeks earlier. Billions every year for fewer than 50 prosecutions, and I’d bet money those were about something other than their attempted purchase of a firearm. Like, maybe they donated money to the wrong party.

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  5. “too damn confusing for first responders to separate the good guys from the bad guys”

    There would be no confusion at all! Bad guys would be lying dead.

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  6. One other slight problem with his logic is that it’s not religious right wing republicans perpetrating these massacres. It’s Muslim fanatics and or people who seem to have strong left wing beliefs. Maybe progressives should see why their people seem to be the ones going nuts and killing large amounts of people. It’s why the media immediately tries to link every mass shooting to a right wing nut only to have to later admit there were no ties to the right.

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  7. Texas is nice, civilized place. It is unfortunate that the Federal government had to place a 158,706 acre Gun Free Zone right in the center and bring in Nadal Hasan and Crazy Ivan to f’ it up. The Federal government made this problem and can fix it anytime it wants. So kindly take your advice and stick it in your caboose, Mr. Horsey’s ass.

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    • Simplest solution on a military base doesn’t require a change in law, just military regs. Require a sidearm for officers and NCOs in fatigue uniforms.

      And, BTW, make that “on base or off”, and even more problems would be solved!

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  8. Perhaps someone here can help me with understanding his logic. He wants private sales to have background checks because they already passed a background check at a gun store?

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  9. Best way to avoid being robbed is by not being flashy. When going to the mall, ATM or Walmart I wear an old shower curtain held together with rope, some pieces of tire tread duct taped to my feet for shoes, and I leave my Rolex in the Beemer.

    Great side benefit of this outfit, you can easily carry a DRACO slung under your armpit as your CCW rig.

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  10. My views are simple. If you have served your time, then the debt is paid and they shouldn’t be holding anything against you after that. The punishment was set at X amount of jail time and/or Y dollars of fines. If that punishment has been satisfied, then you shouldn’t continue to be punished. However, most felons DONT serve their full time, they get paroled early. If you get out early, the debt’s not paid and you get no rights. For those people, they should be able to petition for their full rights back and a judge can review them on a case by case basis.

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  11. I believe in God, but I do not attend church. I can not quote a Bible verse nor do I try and convert anyone. I am also a gun owner and vote Republican. How do I fit into his hierarchy of political actors? My gut tells me that to him, anyone who is not an atheist or anyone who believes in natural rights is a “zealot”.

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  12. It is unbelievable to me that the outfit like LA Times is the ‘paper of record’ for so many people here in Southern California. They are barely one step past the NY Post, a thin cut above a tabloid…

    I heard they were broke and were going to sell off ownership. I wonder what happened to that?

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  13. Why are you even giving this individual coverage. We know the anti gun crowd exists. The only way they have to gain attention is to say something so controversial, that it gets them coverage. STOP giving them the time of day. MAKE THEM IRRELEVANT !!

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  14. Through out the story you seemed to indicate you thought you were on Indian land, where THEY are the law, you starting a gun fight puts you seriously in the wrong!

    Of course hindsight shows otherwise, but your story clearly indicates that in situ you were planning to start a gun fight with what were thought to be legitimate law enforcement officers.

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  15. The question is on the forms at my Drs office and I routinely check no. Then I routinely display my concealed carry piece when I remove my cover up to be examined. He’s never mentioned it. So what does the EHR say? It says no, because the Dr and I didn’t discuss it so he’s not entering it and the info from the form that the office girls put in later says no.

    Then again, I was on the EHR implementation committee for the same medical centers that are home base for my GP.

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  16. My guess is this was not this criminal’s first rodeo. It rarely is. The fact is that it is Liberal Democrats who allow these criminals back on the streets to rob, rape and kill innocent law-abiding citizens.

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  17. Someone I know was just (last week) at his physician’s office and was asked:

    1. Are you ever depressed?

    2. Do you own any guns?

    My acquaintance told the doctor (and I quote), “That’s none of your ****ing business.”

    The first question, as asked, is a loaded question. “Are you EVER depressed?” Gee… EVER? Naaaaaaaaaa…. Never.

    I’ve pondered how I would answer when / if this happens. Part of me wants to go the “none of your ****ing business” route. But, such a response could be interpreted as a tacit affirmative answer. On the other hand, I’ve also considered a silent stare. Or, I’ve also thought of returning the question to the doctor, “Do YOU ever feel depressed? Do YOU own guns?”

    I’ve also thought the most expeditious answer would be a curt, “NO.”

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  18. As a med student, we’ve been taught to do this, but most of our professors indicated that it wasn’t really important and could be left out if we wanted to.

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  19. Just one question, why? their range is maybe 10 metres. From that range he was able to put one slug into a man sized target out of an entire magazine. At that point you might as well be using a break action single shot.

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  20. My doctor knows I don’t own any guns , because when I go out shooting with him I tell him that I feel good that my wife lets me rent the guns I am shooting , then he says I feel the same way ! Be prepared and ready . Keep your powder dry .

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  21. Mixed feelings, If a person is a stupid teenager or early 20s and gets a couple of DWIs it does not make them a danger to society if they cleaned up their act and are now married with kids and a job. Now on the other hand I don’t really care if a child molester has ample means of defending themselves. I think on a case by case basis it could absolutely be done safely.

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  22. “Tall male” and “short male.” Anything else?

    And the man may have been State-certified to carry a firearm, but it’d be nice if he could hit his targets.

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  23. It happened at 2:40 am… in other words, dark. In a dark alley.
    You’re not going to see a thing under a hood, hence the non-descriptive physical descriptions.

    I’m going to call these “Otis inspired incidents” from now on. And on the day after Mr. McDonald’s death, I would appreciate if we could all put a lid on the racist innuendo.

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  24. The stuttering, stammering, ventriloquists dummy, Gabby Giffords, and her puppeteer hubby, Mark Kelly, should be more concerned with who belongs to their (Democrat) party than what law-abiding citizens do with their LEGALLY purchased firearms. The fact is Gabby’s shooter, Jared Loughner, a REGISTERED Democrat and Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton supporter, has done what some in his district may consider a great service, his actions have shown the nation just what kind of people his party is comprised of (nut-jobs) and forced the rabidly anti-2nd Amendment former congresswoman and hypocrite from the shadows. In a perfect world the traitorous ex-NASA astronaut, Mark Kelly, would be held to account for his crimes but he’s too busy changing his wife’s soiled diapers and wiping the drool from her chin but no, we are punished by regularly being subjected to seeing this pair, a 21st Century Charlie McCarthy and Edgar Bergen-type team “perform” for the cameras on biased media outlets scheming to deny us our Constitutionally guaranteed rights. I for one become nauseated watching these buffoons as the wooden-headed Gabby sits upon her hubby’s knee “testifying” before state and federal committees mouthing the words Bloomberg and his anti-gun stooges have written for her. Now some may criticize this pair of despicable gun-grabbing despots for setting up a “charity” (to enrich themselves) but someone has to pay for the long surgical gloves used by Mark Kelly to “pull” his wife’s “strings”.

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  25. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *takes a deep breath* ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa

    This guy can’t be serious no damn way.

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  26. Leland Yee, with Tong connections, is the Chinese / California version of that Irish / New York state senator, “Big Tim Sullivan” of Tammany Hall and “Sullivan Law” fame. Both were hypocrites who exploited “gun control” for their own evil purposes, and deceived the public with an appearance of sincere dedication to “reducing gun violence”, while their true goal was the protection of armed criminals they conspired with, and the increase of their power by the process of disarming and control of the people they wished to dominate, not represent.

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