“As Americans, we have a long history with firearms. We also have a government built on compromise, so here is the compromise I propose: Ban assault rifles and handguns for everyone except police and military personnel. These weapons are made to kill humans and should be strictly limited. At the same time, allow responsible citizens to own rifles and shotguns. Rifles are for hunting big-game animals, shotguns are for hunting birds; non-automatic versions of these weapons should be available for those with an interest in hunting or target shooting.” – Nick Symmonds, Guns in America: Time for Change [via runnersworld.com]
Assuming they were gang bangers as you state, then there will be a collective “so what” to “good” reaction. Gang bangers make for terrible victim status.
Speaking of Texas, we had a tourist from Frisco shot last night in the heart of the Mag Mile. One of the few parts of town where there is cop on every corner.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-4-shot-during-3-shootings-across-city-20131109,0,4399799.story
Illustrating Chicago Crime, Murder and Mayhem at http://www.heyjackass.com
The classic anti-gun “compromise”: ban the stuff that I don’t like, and I will “allow” you to have some of the stuff you have already been “allowed” to have for centuries.
Until…we decide you can’t even have those.
Yea it would turn into “gun violence is still an epidemic so you can still have your guns but you have to leave them with the police” a couple months later and they’re all destroyed. I worked for a jewish russian immigrant who actually said that’s how gun ownership should be. He was so brainwashed from growing up with the commie propaganda he actually whole heartedly believed the gov was truly looking out for our best interest.
And then after you give up our handguns and “assault rifles;” they will come for your hunting rifles and shotguns because they can be used for killing humans. What a tool. The ultimate Fudd.
How about this compromise? We’ll keep our 2nd Amendment rights to keep and bear arms and this dingbat can keep his 1st Amendment rights to say this kind of stupid stuff
We could always use our 2nd Amendment Rights to protect his 1st Amendment Rights.
Just add we disband all the alphabet soup, tax stamps and laws banning any weapon and we have a compromise.
Can we ban FUDDs? Or do we just turn them over to the antis and let those two hang out together?
Like it or not Fudds are usually gun owners and need to brought to our side…
And of course, the bad guys will have complete access to any & all weapons because they have the special card that allows them to be exempt from the law and not be targeted by police or politicians.
what a moron. i say we ban stupidity like his from having progeny
Why would anybody care what some chump from runner’s world thinks? They are really going for the low hanging fruit with their propaganda, aren’t they?
Typical run in my town where they restrict traffic and such is all yuppies who you know don’t own firearms just by looking at them. I guess they figure if they can get “runners” to get behind tyranny it might “go viral.”
houston needs to be bulldozed. it’s a cesspool of unintelligent gang bangers and leeches on the tax payers
Simple things for simple minds…
Fudds can be turned… It just takes patience. My father-in-law hated ARs it took a lot of 2A debate and pointing out gun controls slippery slope. He was a union man and always voted democrat but after a while even he got his cpl and went to the polls with the knowledge that scotus could possibly be needing a new member and if so they would be Obama’s pet.
If you read the comments on runnersworld in relation to this article, they are getting bashed by runners.
Link?
Oh duh, it’s up in the article. Still on the first cup of coffee…
Even though it’s frustrating that the Media publishes drivel like this, it encourages me to see that the readers aren’t buying it. And in the case of print magazines, sometimes literally.
Ah, yes. Runner’s World. Exactly the publication I turn to for insights into political issues. Exactly as I eagerly read each article on long distance running hydration and running shoe reviews in the latest Special Weapons and Tactics magazine.
I look foreword to the Runner’s World editorial on immigration and healthcare reform. I’m sure it will be well thought-out and meaningful.
There are 10 types of people: those that understand binary, and those that don’t.
Here’s the compromise I suggest Mr. Symmonds, as it is the only one we will tolerate:
The immediate and complete repeal of all gun control laws currently on state and federal books. In return, if your statist mind can’t handle a liberated America, we are willing to let YOU move elsewhere. We will gladly compromise by losing people like YOU, not our bill of rights. Those amendments are not subject to any compromise, period. Not minor ones and certainly not the freak show you’re suggesting.
Stick to writing about pink running shoes and spare us your hipster glamour shots with firearms. Intolerable, shortsighted, ignorant, simple-minded, awful little traitor.
We need to crack down on high capacity parties. Fo da chillunz!
Went to runnersworld and read the entire post. One minute and twenty-seven seconds of my life i will never get back. What a tool.
So, you used this gimmick in a totally legit DGU. The local DA decides to press charges anyway despite all evidence indicating that the DGU was a clean shoot (I know, that could never happen in real life, right?). I wonder how the jury would look at that bit of evidence when the prosecutor presents it to them while trying to paint you, the defendant, as a violent, raving loon gun nut.
Besides, that’s got to be one of the stupidest and fuggliest things I’ve seen in awhile. Not only that but it’s a red gun, you know, like the inert red guns used for training purposes. This is not a good idea at all.
Compromise… you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
+1 Princess Bride point.
I sort of agree with this guy, we should be able to keep and bear anything with a smooth bore (shotguns) and anything with a rifled bore (pistols, revolvers, rifles of all kinds).
So he is saying the right thing but he is saying the wrong way.
/sarc/
Smoothbores. Mmmm …. Rheinmetall ….
120mm. Wonder what a box of shells would cost for that puppy?
Also let me just say it’s pretty funny that someone writes this in a running magazine as if it’s a brilliant proposal that’s never been thought of before, with no legal issues whatsoever. I, for one, am writing Stockholm so they can get the process started to give him a peace prize for this amazing idea.
I hear they’ll hand those prizes out to anyone these days.
Who’s going to come and take my scary ‘assault rifles?’ The military? Doubtful. Most of us despise our current crop of civilian masters. They’d be wise to read the history of rome before they poke that bee hive.
We need to make sure this can never happen again, we need party legislation! Its from now on any gathering of more then 1 person is considered a party and threat that must be disbanded! Its for the children!
This well-intentioned person apparently has no idea where firearms came from. As if the editors of Field & Stream got tired of throwing rocks at ducks, or somebody’s bow arm was injured and hundreds of years ago a buddy of his cobbled together a Springfield ’03 for him to use during deer season.
All firearms are weapons intended to kill people, it’s why the entire category of arms exists. It took a couple hundred of years to make them better than a longbow, but we’re pretty much there now. Realistically, no advance in firearm technology was ever intended to kill deer or ducks better than the last generation. All of the R&D and innovation has been to create powders, projectiles and mechanisms useful in war or defense, and pretty much only against other humans. Hunting and target shooting are outgrowths of the killing-people mission of firearms, but to say that the firearms industry invented and developed firearms for hunting and target shooting is kind of like saying the American space program sent multiple missions to the moon in order to get Tang, Velcro and the Fisher Space Pen.
What’s so charming about the author, in a clueless-kid-with-ice-cream-on-his-face kind of way, is that he seeks to regulate something he clearly knows nothing about. The “designed to kill people” thing is an argument from ignorance, grandpa’s Mauser 98-derivative hunting rifle was sure as shootin’ (so to speak) designed to kill people. I’m pretty sure someone used to a Minie ball percussion musket would have looked at a five-shot smokeless rifle like the original ’98, saw how fast it could shoot and how fast it could be reloaded and felt his bowels turn to water to think what it would have been like to face those at Gettysburg or Antietam. “Why, this is a weapon meant for nothing other than killing people!” he would have harrumphed through his mutton-chop mustache, except our hypothetical 19th Century denizen would have then grinned and said, “I’ll take three!”
No, our author comes from a more enlightened era where ignorance is license to authority and fear is a clear signal to retreat rather than gird up one’s loins and press on. I think I’ll not take advice from him. On anything.
Good observation and unusually well said!
No. And fuck you. Have a nice day, now.
…well that’s a really good deal. But I’ve got a better one. How about I give you the finger, and you let me keep ALL my rights?
Is this one for sale? Now to have a custom “fire extinguisher rack” built, so it can be mounting and readily available when needed. Maybe in the kitchen, another in the garage, another in the basement, etc.
This FUDD’s statement is so full of historical, social, political, strategic, logical, and firearms knowledge fail that it hurts my head to read. Problem is, he is a useful idiot with a gun, so that MAIG and the rest will gleefully parade him in front of the media and say, “here is proof that gun owners want to ban ‘evil’ guns!”
Hey Nick, you dumba$$ that Mauser action rifle was so deadly it decimated our troops at the battle of Bunker Hill during the Spanish American war prompting us to adopt the Springfield 1903: those actions were then turned into the venerable Remingtons and Rugers many use today. Read a book once in a while.
Bunker Hill ==> San Juan Hill.
Wait a minute, the Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor!
Shuddup, he’s on a roll!
Deserves a kick in the balls.
Guys, he’s right. According to Wikipedia the 2nd Amendment only allows Americans to hunt game animals. Where did we go so wrong?
Let me guess, the shooters open carried black powder pistols or semi-auto assault styled rifles.
Also, the shotgun in the picture seems to be a semi auto browning a5. So he is a hypocrite as well as an idiot!
It looks like an a5, which means it was probably handed down to him. A family heirloom. Let’s see him walk the walk and turn it in to the police to be melted down. Show the strentgh of his convictions. Until then, he’s just a gas bag.
When I first saw the picture, I started thinking of how many Japanese soldiers were shwacked by A5s during the war in the Pacific. What a total idiot who has no clue what he is holding.
As a runner and a cyclist nothing beats a handgun for protection on the road from assault. As a NRA life member I find it hard to believe this guy actually doesn’t think a good percentage of runners carry small when they run, in fact look at the Governor of Texas who carries on his daily jog. If you want to live in a country with only rifles and shotguns move to England that way the only handguns you’ll see are the one’s holding you up
It’s just more of “divide et impera”.
If hunters, paper-punchers, CCW holders, etc. don’t stand together to preserve the RKBA, they will all lose in the long run.
Dear Nick Symmonds,
Go to Hell…go directly to Hell…Do not stop in Purgatory….Do not collect 200 Blessings.
Sincerely,
DerryM
@Robert Farago
It appears more than two people were shot.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57611662/houston-area-house-party-shooting-leaves-2-dead/
“The sheriff’s statement said those hurt were taken to at least five area medical centers or hospitals, some by paramedics and some in private vehicles. Gilliland told the newspaper that some people were shot in the foot, ankle and hip, and others fleeing the home had twisted ankles.”
Most of the antis seem to fit into all three of those categories.
Regarding the hoplophobes, not only are they scared of guns in the hands of other people, but they are also scared of what they might do if they had a gun. They themselves are acting irrationally out of emotion and projecting that on others.
Nicely stated, Ralph.
From the quote in the article if the kids were trying to hide from the suspicious car it was probably a drive by shooting.
2 words to the poster.
Shove IT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Let’s compromise, U.S. citizens who pay Federal Income Tax, and only those who pay Federal Income Tax, can vote for elective federal positions.
Judging the comments on the Runners World website it looks like there are quite a lot of people who will not renew their subscriptions.
If six unemployed people can be found to volunteer and can be trained, they should be provided, at minimum wage. He doesn’t deserve any less.
I am honestly flabbergasted to hear that a New York City police detective makes $120,000 per year. I guess I got into the wrong business.
Or is $120,000 per year the total cost per officer — including benefits, supplies, patrol car, expenses, etc.?
It’s NYC. You would be amazed how expensive that city is to live in. $120k is middle class in that city.
I find it funny that Runners World, a website about jogging, is posting gun control articles. I think Nick Symmonds should try to go coyote hunting with his bolt action on multiple targets.
Textbook FUDD right here.
Well, the bad news is now precedent has been set to use the phrase “mass shooting” pretty much whenever they like. This might end bad.
But the good news is, people get bored and desensitized really quickly, so soon “mass shooting” will be as worthless a media term as “WMD” is, like Bobmcd said above. I think “assault weapon” is almost there now.
I had to look up compromise in the dictionary just in case it had changed definitions overnight. It hasn’t, they’re just using the other definition, as in “compromised bridge structure” or “compromised integrity”.
Dear God.
In the words of Rick from Pawn Shop: Hmm….how about “No?”
Moron. You want ’em, come get ’em. Same goes for all you knuckleheads that call for confiscation. Don’t hide behind the guv’ment, you and your buddies man up and do it yourselves. I’ll wait right here.
I’d like to see a survey enumerating how many New Yorkers know the Commissioner’s name and how many recognize his face. Since I’ll bet that number is down around zero I simply can’t imagine that he is a target anymore than the rest of the city’s citizens are. What should be is that all of NY’s state and city laws on firearms possession should be repealed, the he and everyone else can provide for their own defense.
You can’t say the guy doesn’t have a real set of brass balls. The hypocrisy and sense of entitlement, though completely predictable, is still pretty astounding. He’s going to work for JPMorgan fercrisakes, let them and their shareholders pick up the tab for the jerk.
Ray, Ray, Ray… It must be hard to bounce awake at night with the sudden realization that you will shortly be one of us, a minion. Of course, as a retired LEO you can conceal carry anywhere you reasonably want to, which is not something we can say, but hey, we’ll give you that.
I mean, what really do any of us have to fear, particularly in a gun-free zone the size of NYC? I mean, who would be out to get you once you hang up the blues? Certainly not one of the 2.7 million participants in the degradation you perpetuated for Walking While Brown. I mean, it was for the common good, so certainly no one will fault you for invasion of personal liberty and all that jazz. I mean, really. This is the 21st Century. Certainly the good citizens of New York will foster their good will and gratitude on you and your family as you deserve as true leaders in the progressive movement.
New Yorkers could do no less, I mean they just elected a Sandinista the new mayor – they are a truly enlightened, progressive ground swell that will put you on their shoulders as a hero of the revolution. I daresay you will never have to pay for as much as a cup of coffee in New York as the citizenry – if I dare call them that – will line up to share their gratitude for your enlightened leadership.
So, Ray, what’s there to be afraid of? I mean really? What is it that frightens you? You are living the high life in the progressive capital of a brave new world you helped create. Embrace it and welcome the peoples’ gratitude for your service.
Yeah – Ray – what could you possibly be worried about?
http://us.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.html?page=26048&external=2414626.proteus.fma
In NYC you can only carry a gun if you can pass the “poll tax” of affording to hire a gun caddy to carry it for you.
I believe Ray Kelly has Many enemies after decades being at the NYPD. He needs something, but not 6 full-time Detectives.
Meanwhile, Mike Bloomberg, New York’s own Little Napoleon, has hired his entire 17-man armed security detail. Seventeen guys with guns at about $150,000 a year each. I believe he’s paying for them out of his own pocket. He’s probably using all the money he saved by having on-the-clock NYC employees run MAIG.
He won’t let a New Yorker get a pistol permit without a “donation,” but he has seventeen guys with Uzis covering his ass.
Another grabber who doesn’t understand that “compromise” means a meeting in the middle between two parties. What exactly do gun-owners get in his compromise? Nothing, they are “allowed” to keep a small portion of what they already can.
What would an actual compromise look like? One in which people who appreciate the right to self defense get something they want but don’t currently have, and the terrified masses get some appeasement for their irrational anxiety?
How about this: All guns have to have wood furniture, or be painted a soothing pastel color. Scary, “tactical-black” guns will no longer be okay unless you’re a member of the military or the increasingly militarized police because hey — that’s comforting.
Also, maybe we could just give up bayonets. If you want to attack someone with a large bladed weapon, you just have to do it the British way and use a chef’s knife or cleaver.
In exchange, no more minimum on barrel length (look how small and un-intimidating this shotgun is!) and no restrictions on silencers (loud noises are SCARY). Also, open-carry of any black-powder rifles or pistols everywhere, because that’s what the founding fathers had in mind, right?
I’d settle for national carry reciprocity.
Yeah, and I want to hit the lottery and have Jenifer Aniston show at my door in the middle of the night cold wet naked and scared! How’s it feel to want?
He’s used to being special. He can hire his own damn guards.
I’ll freely admit, which may put myself subject to scorn and criticism, I USED to be a Fudd. My thinking was, I don’t give a crap if they ban 17 round Glock mags or AR-15’s or 30 round mags. As long as you don’t touch my BPS, Auto-5, 336 30-30 etc.
Then I came to the realization that “shall not be infringed” actually meant shall not be infringed. And I NOW don’t want the government, who swore to defend the constitution, coming to confiscate my Ruger 17 round mags. And when I eventually by drop some dime on a sporting rifle or god forbid at some point in time when a rational President takes office, a Korean era M1 carbine, I want to be free of infringement. And when I finally get my Illinois CCW, I want to carry what I choose with the number of rounds I feel comfortable defending myself.
Wow, he says that, all while holding a semi-auto shotgun. This guy can lick the sweat off my balls.
You would think that JPMorgan would be able to find a better face for their corporate security division.
Ray Kelly, You are no Rick Rescorla.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla
Rescorla in one of the iconic pictures of the Viet Nam War which graced the cover of Hal Moore’s “We Were Soldiers.”:
http://www.suprmchaos.com/we-were-soldiers_rescorla.jpg
Outstanding observation tdiinva, Rick Rescorla was/is a real American patriot and hero. Kelly is an elitist shill.
If I find a good way to carry it, my LCP. It is my EDC when I am not at work and barred from carrying.
Do you use a wallet holster? You can manipulate the slide, switch mags and fire all without removing from holster. At least with small to medium hands. I don’t think pickle fingers would fit through the holster holes though.
Ruger LCR
You know, about a third of my family and the chaplain for my dying grandpa basically said something along these lines after Sandy Hook: “I own guns, but there’s no reason for people to own an assault rifle. All I need are shotguns and bolt action rifles.”
Reasoned debate wasn’t getting through to these people, so one day I just started snapping back with some propaganda of my own anytime I heard that trope. The conversation usually went something like this.
ME: “Oh, you mean your high-powered sniper rifle? The one
that can murder people a THOUSAND YARDS AWAY who
will never see it coming? And shoot all the way through a
whole crowd of people?”
FUDD: “What? No!”
ME: “Throw your fellow gun owners under the bus and it will
be in 5 years. Just wait.”
I would leave it at that and walk away. Most of the time they raged. In one case someone just started stammering. Did it change anyone’s mind? Probably not, but I’d like to believe it illustrated to some FUDD how easily it is to describe their “safe” rifle a crazed murderer’s weapon of choice.
(The messed-up part? The only other member of my immediate family who actively and completely defended the entire 2A during these debates was my uncle—a cop. Then again, he’s only a detective, so he’s not quite at the sock-puppet ranks. (I’m looking at you, commissioners.))
Back in the day my father ran with a Garand. That would be overkill for you local 10k so I would go with my Nano.
Run like you mean it. Barrett .50 cal. With that, you don’t have I run nearly as far to get the same workout.
Beat me to it. Nobody’s going to fv#k with you when you’re out jogging with your 50 BMG!
Carrying while jogging in clothes that are appropriate for jogging is difficult. For one thing, I would not want to carry in an ankle holster while jogging. Second, running pants don’t have belt loops, just elastic and draw string. So an inside or outside waistband holster doesn’t work. Finally, a Miami rig doesn’t work. So what is left?
The only solution that I think could work is a belly band carrier with a snubby .38 Special or compact 9mm, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP. If a midsize pistol fits in the belly band carrier, then that could work as well. Of course you could carry a .380 ACP or smaller if that is all you have or can control.
Kahr cm9
Nope. Fail. Doesn’t get it. Sigh… Only authority gets the power to kill? Compromise. Kindly FOAD. Please.
Why does he think he has a right to “feel safe” in public?
If he doesn’t feel safe in public he should either arm himself or stay at home and run on the treadmill.
Whatever the straw receivers are paying for.
Miss Elsie Pea goes with me on day hikes near the city.
Back country I switch to a Ruger SP101 in .357.
Unrelated, but every time I follow a link from your twitter posts on my iPhone, your page sends me to the App Store and tries to make me download a game.
Not to offend, but I would have thought everyone in Texas has a gun. The homies should’ve been capped before they even got a shot off.
Who wants to bet there were underage kids drinking alcohol.
plate carrier, ar-15 and 10 reloads or go home!
Anything but the doubletap.
More proof that NYC gun control doesn’t work….
M&P Shield in UnderTech compression shorts works well.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A83V4PY
Love the idiot holding up the mp5 .22 like it’s some big score. Skeet, skeet, skeet.
People who would choose a modern sig over an HK product have no idea what they are talking about. Sig hasnt made a reliable gun in 10 years. But Sig lovers will talk about how their gun has been flawless for a whopping 600rds. Let me know when you get to 20,000
I would be glad to give you a round count that high, but I can’t find another 14k rounds for my m&p
As much as I’d prefer the steel-framed Sig over the poly-framed P30, the M11-A1 doesn’t have a dustcover rail. I’d prefer the flexibility of adding a weapon light to the P30.
But given the choice between a railed P229 and a P30, I’d pick the steel frame P229.
It’s always nice to hear a man say that we should ban all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns….while he is pictured holding a semi-automatic shotgun.
Neither I carry a Beretta M-92FS anyday over those crappy pistols. A Glock 17 would have to be my 2nd choice.
Same Choice as Craig.
He is a have and he is protecting himself from the have nots. Nothing more. Our gov, the banks and most corporations are all intertwined with each other, even though many are at war with each other at the same time much like in politics and agencies like the CIA, but this is what those that join forces with the rulers of this nation do, they have protection because they are future targets and they will suck as much tax-payer money they can so the don’t have to spend their own or their owners money. In general people from NYC think they are special, can you imagine the ego of some in power from there like this a-hole? I imagine this guy doesn’t even wipe his own butt anymore.
It should be noted that most of New Zeland’s anti self protection legislation came about courtesy of the British Government, and later through our 1930s Socialist government (the Prime Minister then was a “conscientious objector” during WWI). Most of our Socialist (Labour) politicians had training from Comintern via their local affiliates. There is also a very British feeling of being above all the hurly burly of the bustling crowd, and that reliance on personal authority rather than enforcement by weapons is in the long run more effective. Our Police are largely unarmed. Our criminals might use weapons against each other, but rarely use them on civilians. This might seem quaint to Americans, but it seems to work at the moment. The incidence of gangster rap videos is influencing our weak minded youth, so there may be a need to upgrade in the future. Our laws at present don’t allow it. That may need to change.
N Zed has more sheep than people. US has more people who are sheep. Big difference.
Hey Joe, say that to my face why don’t you, come on, please say it to my face…
At those prices I’ll buy two of something else.
Any excuse to print the same thing over and over.
We know Lee Harvery got his through the mail.
Cant do that anymore.
But where did the gun used for the 3rd and killing shot come from???
Secret Service Inventory
Well oswalds came from the mail but I’m sure the guy on the grassy knoll got his through the gunshow loophole…
I now have 7 Mosins. I caught Mosinitis and likely will have it for awhile. I take another approach to the idea that MN’s will never really appreciate in value. Look at price increases lately, first. Second, look at the huge popularity of these rifles. Third, they will go up against practically anything made today of bolt action heritage. Fourth, the huge aftermarket now for the MN. Fifth, real rifles are made of wood and steel!!
Very reliable and very well built. Sixth, ammo is readily available, and if the surplus dries up, well, there are so many companies making more that it is still cheaper then US made stuff. No, these rifles will accumulate in value. Supplies are not inexhaustable. Oh, eighth, even though i like Mausers, i love that the MN owes NOTHING to the K98 action. Stand-alone durability. So, the very many reasons, including the cheaper price of the rifle, make these desirable. And desirability drives demand. Demand drives supply. And when supplies diminish,……..supply and demand…
The government does in fact get records completely wrong. I’ve pulled over male drivers who were listed as female on their driver licenses and vice versa. One man remarked that the DMV would charge him to get the mistake corrected, so he leaves it as is.
My motorcycle registration is currently under contention – I paid the fees late and let the insurance lapse. I paid the fees, had fees withheld from my state tax return, and then paid a reinstatement fee. I’ve got AAA insurance. My registration “doesn’t exist” on the DMV website, and it isn’t on the automated call line. Further, I have photographic and bank records of my transactions – especially the one stating that my completed registration will be coming in the mail. That was literally on 6/21/13 at 8:14 pm. Yet I have no registration as of this writing. It’s a good thing that its only my registration, and not something of greater importance such as my healthcare (screwed up by the government and Obama) or my criminal history.
There are also many times when I’m working the road when the “system” has been down or unusually delayed. I’ve had days in a row where I’ve been unable to run driver histories, stolen vehicle checks and warrant searches. I’ve had warrant returns from a stop I’ve made hours before, with the driver long gone.
So why would any sane person subject themselves to such a flawed system at taxpayer expense? The “system” can let criminals go and vilify the innocent. Of course, those who are politically connected can usually handle such little “snafus.” The rest of us have to burn time and resources against government employees who have no personal investment in such matters. I bet most people reading these pages have an experience such as mine.
Since much gun ownership is dependent upon government blessing, it is clearly evident that the government has infringed upon American gun rights, and those of the slave states in particular. The government is not very good at policing itself, and has little incentive to reveal its own incompetence. I see no reason to expand the government, or to trust in its operation without scrutiny. What we desperately need as a nation is a return to the limited government that our forefathers intended.
It seems to me, as well as to a bunch of others here, that these anti-2A vets are all officers. Bush banned firearms on bases, and the officers it would seem heartily approve. Yes, officers are a political position–and being subject to the “up or out” rule, they play the politics demanded of them by the Pentagon and the CINC, because failure to do so would be a career ending faux pas.
Then again, history supports such actions. Once Rome developed standing armies (and perpetual war), weapons, soldiers, and especially armies were banned from the Capitol for fear that they would revolt and take over the government. In the Middle Ages, free men carried arms until the monarchs and rulers established standing armies with large numbers of armed mercenaries at their beck and call–and at that point the serfs were disarmed and told to go about their business growing crops and paying taxes.
It concerns me greatly that we seem to be sliding into the same errors that lead to the fall of the Roman empire. Goods are produced abroad and shipped home. The hoi polloi are generally impoverished and dependent upon the public weal–or reliant upon serving in the various armies in countries far away. When the leaders fear the people, the people are disarmed–but society nonetheless ultimately collapses after falling into tyranny.
Where are our soldiers today? Mostly abroad. And when here, they are disarmed by their commanders. The parallels between Rome and now are striking.
We are next. The threat of tyranny–not from any particular political leader but from the elitist political class that “runs” our country–is great.
Hk can hate me all the want. I don’t care what they think. I do care about performance and utility. Overall I like my USP .45 CT just fine. The only Sig I have is a P239 so it isn’t exactly apples to apples but I’ve handled many Sig firearms that belonged to friends. Really kind of like the argument of Ford vs. Chevy if you ask me. It comes down to preference. Both weapons are great and are combat proven.
My 2 cents.
that was the single non emergency 911 call they got. does she sound scared? did she say we were in a school zone? in wi you can be in a school zone if you have your ccp. and it was a Sunday. i would not interrupt a kids education.
The cops was trying to scary him because he did not like that “citizen” open carrying. It’s as simple as that.
He was trying to prove a point, and the way he did it was be threatening to blow his head off.
“Abramski could have avoided the entire problem by having his Virginia dealer send the gun directly to his uncle’s dealer in Pennsylvania; licensed dealers do this all the time. ”
Isn’t that exactly what Mr. Abramski did?
Speaking of .300, I was about to email this one in. Saw it come up in the facebook wire:
http://bearingarms.com/300-blackout-in-a-223-wylde-ar-15-kaboom/
Punchline – .300 blackout in a .223 chamber and you’re gonna have a bad time.
The Federal Government has no say in the private sale of used goods within the borders of a state and between two of her citizens. Period.
Actually, you should see what the original photo was. Two photo’s taken at the same time of the same group. Both relay different messages, depending on the messenger.
But only one conveys what this groups intent was. The other, propaganda. I’ll let you decide which is which.
Here’s the photo’s in question: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYzDxSWCQAENPXg.jpg
(Credit to TheThingThatGoesUp)
Its interesting to me that they got the license to manufacture firearms. Being that they are a service bureau though, what would they do/have done if I just ordered parts to be printed, one or few at a time, and built my own firearm from parts printed by their service? Would they have noticed i was printing a gun? Would they care? What would their liability have been? If they did notice, what would have been their legal obligations?
I’ve had parts printed from half a dozen different bureaus. I’ve even gotten estimates/bids from Solid Concepts themselves. None of them have ever asked or questioned any of the parts I ordered.
Next time you talk to them, ask them those questions please.
Ok misogynist statement of the day… That cop could cuff me anytime i’d let her… ok I’m done now sorry to give the antis ammo but since I dated that MP years ago I’ve had a thing for cops… those cuffs come in pretty handy some nights… ” oh yeah I’ve been a baaahd sheeple.”
/Sarc/
It probably was started when a particularly plump child exploded and sent grease everywhere.
She eats children you know.
TTAG should bring an illustrator aboard to draw cartoons about these topics.