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Question of the Day: Should All States have an Armed and Prohibited Person’s Firearms Confiscation Team?

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“In 2016, California’s Armed and Prohibited Persons System enforcement program completed more than 9,100 investigations,” ydr.com reports, “which led to more than 500 arrests and nearly 4,000 guns seized, according to an annual report from California’s attorney general’s office.” So the Golden State has a special team that checks-up on Americans prohibited from owning firearms to see if they’re armed, and arrests them if they are. (They get around the probable cause problem by asking the target’s permission to search a target’s home.) Good idea?

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. This would be great except for one not-so-tiny problem: black powder (and black powder substitute) rifles produce GINORMOUS amounts of soot which is CAUSTIC and will promptly RUIN any barrel or suppressor if not properly cleaned right after every shooting.

    As far as I can tell from the photos in this article, there is no possible way that you can properly clean the suppressor section of the barrel. If that is true, the suppressor will not last very long.

    Does anyone have any idea how this would not be a problem?

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    • Wondering this myself. Manual on the website says to use normal hot water cleaning method for the barrel and suppressor. I would think that a lot of agitation – i.e. ultrasonic cleaner – would be a wise idea.

      Also, per the manual, it appears that projectile selection is limited. Typical lead balls and minie balls appear to be verboten. Jacketed, non-sabot, projectiles only. This is apparently to prevent fouling the baffles.

      This dampened my interest some because I cast my own muzzleloader projectiles.

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      • I don’t see how pouring water (even boiling water) through the barrel (which includes the integral suppressor) is going to remove enough soot to prevent it from eventually caking up and becoming useless.

        I am also curious whether or not pouring water through the barrel is enough to neutralize the caustic property (dissolve and remove sulfur residue which becomes sulfuric acid with air moisture) of the soot that remains in the barrel.

        In my experience with my muzzleloader, it takes a LOT of scrubbing with wire brushes and patches and a cleaning agent (e.g. soap or appropriate solvent) to remove the soot after even just 10 shots.

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  2. Isn’t that the job for the police we already have?

    Or should I put together a team who’s job is to verify officers show up to work on time?

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  3. So this kid want guns banned because “he doesn’t like them”? I’ve seen five-year olds that can express themselves better than he does.And what was his brother up to when he got killed? Morgan should be ashamed of himself for interviewing a senseless family that can’t present a good argument. I’m also getting tired of foreigners trying to tell was how we should run our country. Australia gave up their guns and now regret it. I’ll keep my buddy Mr. Smith as long as I have breath in me.

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  4. Make it 46 state legal. Washington, Oregon and Idaho, it’s illegal to use 209 primers and we must have an exposed breach. Make one with a musket nipple and ill buy one post haste.

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  5. some muzzleloaders were designed for smokeless powder, most modern muzzleloaders will work with smokeless if charge is measured by weight and an appropriate load is worked out. It’s 2017, people, today’s steels are better than 50-100 years ago.

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  6. I respect their choice to be a GFZ….however, I have the option not to spend my money there. I always look for sings in a place we haven’t been before so I know if I want to go back.

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  7. seems pointless since you only have one shot anyways, is that animal really going to stay in the same relative spot while you reload? doesn’t seem likely. i guess its a step in the right direction though, legality wise.
    i think the only reason this passed is because its on a single shot gun.

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    • The point is to be able to hunt without ear pro, so you can hear what’s going on around you, and still avoid going deaf in the process.

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  8. In theory and if you had a lot money to spend you could buy up one of the ‘muzzleloading’ Sharps rifles and mount a suppressor on it. Then you could assemble paper cartridges and load it fairly quickly.

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  9. Should all states have an “armed and prohibited persons” firearms confiscation team?

    Answer: no.

    If someone is so dangerous that we do not trust them with firearms, then we also should not trust them with cars, gasoline and matches, rope, hammers, sticks (clubs), chainsaws, kitchen knives, nor hands and feet. (Criminals used their hands and feet more often than rifles and shotguns to murder people last year.)

    In other words, if we cannot trust a “prohibited person”, we cannot trust them and they should be in prison or banished from our nation.

    Not so obvious: we all should be armed for self-defense because a LOT of convicted abusers, robbers, rapists, and killers are no longer in prison and walk among us.

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  10. That automated magazine loader is stupid, unless you are disabled, or maybe run a machine gun rental place. I’m guessing it doesn’t really work with any mag though.

    Mostly I find it amusing because it loads ammo faster than some ranges will let you shoot it.

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  11. I’m not terribly surprised.

    My 20″ 700 SPS in .243 has proved itself to be a reliable and damn accurate rifle.

    I didn’t like the stock, so I swapped to a MacMillan A5, but other than that I’ve loved it.

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  12. I wonder if there’s any restrictions regarding caliber length and shape for the mag loader…like “coke bottle” 357 Sig and heavy load 10mm?

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  13. No, absolutely not. Little special purpose units like that, especially armed units, have a way of becoming supply that creates its own demand. Mission creep usually doesn’t end well.

    Insofar as there are prohibited possessors out there packing, the standard dragnet of the carceral state will swoop them up in good time. No need or use in designating special storm troopers for the mission.

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  14. Nice thing about shoulder holsters is that you’re not going to leave your gat on the toilet paper dispenser in public facilities. On the old Barney Miller show detective Fish (Abe Vigoda) wore a shoulder rig, spent lots of time in the rest rooms, coincidence?

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  15. I prefer smart people and “dumb” handguns.
    With smart people, no reason for smart guns
    If it comes to seizure of all handguns, would prefer the government has to require military or Law Enforcement to go door to door to confiscate guns
    than have some candy a** turn on an electronic blocker.
    But, before any other legislation send boots to the hoods with the gangs and take their weapons first and good luck with that ???? Actually to get my vote, need documentation that any gun control laws apply to your security people as well

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  16. I know Hickok45 does a lot of full30 stuff now, but he’s always been my favorite.

    When I can’t hang out and shoot guns, I can pretend to hang out and shoot guns with Hickok45 online.

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  17. Instead of Alexa, maybe do something like triggering (heh) on a keyword or keyphrase. Like “critical thinking.” No one ever thinks about that, let alone says it out loud.

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