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Question of the Day: How Do You Rate Your State for Gun Rights?

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(courtesy tracetheguns.com)

I moved to Texas to escape Rhode Island’s anti-gun (and anti-freedom) culture. The Ocean State’s gun laws aren’t that bad – in comparison to neighboring Massachusetts and Connecticut. And New Jersey. And New York. Not to mention Maryland. I’m under no illusions about The Lone Star state’s gun laws. Rhode Island, for example, “allows” open carry. Texas does not. Yet. Arizona is a Constitutional Carry state. Texas is not. But Texas is getting better while the aforementioned “slave states” are not. Where do you live and what’s it like for gun rights there? Are things getting better or worse? Oh, and click on the above map of Texas from tracetheguns.com (a wholly owned subsidiary of Mayors Against Illegal Guns) to see how the gun grabbers rate your state.

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. Stories like this one make me long for the good old days when cops who wanted to make a bust would simply plant a few bags of H on a guy during a routine stop. Simple, effective and less violent than today’s SWAT raids. But hard entries are fun for the boys with the badges, who just love shooting people and animals, scaring children, stealing stuff and breaking furniture.

    I’m beginning to suspect that cops wear uniforms so we can tell them apart from the good guys.

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    • Yep. Can you say handgun roster? The Sig Sauer buy a 1911 .45 and get a 1911 .22LR free was a great example of the lunacy/lack of any rational thought behind it. According to the local guns store only one of the six models was on the roster. Same design only minor variations in cosmetics and barrel length.

      I’m so happy that Ruger and S&W decided to bail and am hoping all the other manufacturers do the same and then refuse to sell their handguns to LEOs or state agencies. Do the ‘we’ll only sell to the police/govt those weapons available to the general public thing!!!

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  2. Illinois not that great but better than some. Arrow is pointed up a little bit. If only we could make cook county split off from the rest of the state…..

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  3. Just saw that Wendy Davis is for open carry in Texas… I’d say Texas has a 50/50 chance for open carry in 2015 when the Legislature reconvenes…

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  4. In RI it feels like we are fighting just to keep what we have (like a lot of states). My wishlist includes regaining some lost rights like being able to purchase suppressors and SBRs. You would think in such a small densely populated state that suppressors would be a no-brainer.

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  5. Maryland. It can’t get much worse. The two new candidates for Governor at a conference this week stated they want finger printed Firearm Owners I.D. Cards for long guns now since the Columbia Mall Shooting.

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  6. Virginia is good, permitless open carry(with weird “assault weapon” in liberal towns) exemption, shall issue concealed carry, . Unfortunately, in the most recent state elections we now have a Democratic Governor, LT Gov, AG, and Senate, so I’m not anticipating it being awesome for much longer. Beretta canned moving operations here after our election.

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  7. Who cares how many guns are “exported.” California exports pot and fentanyl laced heroin.

    What is really sad is that while I’d rate Maryland really bad, there are actually worse states, like NJ and NY.

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  8. Florida: No right to bear arms, just a privilege to carry concealed only. Waiting periods for handguns if you don’t have a concealed carry permit. Other than that elephant in the room of the so called “gunshine state”, pretty good. We need carry in schools and “bar areas”.

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  9. Here in Arizona I forgot what its like to have gun laws that are overly intrusive, really. Though I was a little miffed about the whole SBR thing when I ran into that.

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  10. Texas doesn’t even need to have any of those laws.

    Federal law already stipulates the criminal penalties for “buying for the other guy” (uh, Abramski, anyone?). Federal law already stipulates the criminal penalties for lying on a 4473 (which don’t apply to felons BTW via Haynes v. U.S.). Federal law already stipulates the criminal penalties (for dealers) that sell their wares without a NICS background check. Federal law already stipulates the criminal penalties for purchase, trade, possession, sale, and transport of a gun by those with misdemeanor convictions of domestic abuse. Federal law already stipulates when, how, and why the BATFE can (and does) inspect FFLs.

    Fuck these ignorant assholes and their vehement refusal to grow beyond their naivety.

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  11. Magpul PRS stock is what you use if you want to be modern or “tactical”. I like the G3 (popular here in Norway due to the reservists). Gives you twenty rounds that will reliably stop someone in a reliable package. Only thing I don’t like is the brass mangling. Can the brass be reloaded?

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    • Never done it myself, but I know of at least three fine gents who clamor for my ‘mangled’ brass every range day. According to them, its a simple matter of reshaping/re-sizing.

      At least one of them uses his reloads in an original 1970’s era HK91.

      Truth be told most of my personal mangling is a reverse impression of the fluting at the case neck. Albeit, a fairly deep ‘impression’ of the fluting. The brass is definitely not destroyed. So I can see the feasibility.

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  12. I moved from Massachusetts to Arizona in 1995. What a wonderful difference! Now I can appreciate how my grandparents felt when they moved from Russia to America in the early 1900s. Sure, we have the University aholes in Tucson who break out in a rash if you even mention the word “gun,” but all in all, we’re in good shape.

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    • I guess in answer to the QOTD; Iowa

      The Good:
      – Shall Issue – only an easy on line course is required, carry open or concealed, no duty to observe ‘no firearms’ signs (except for schools of course), bar carry legal and drinking also allowed as long as your BAC% is below .08. All 50 states CCWs recognized. No 8 hour classes, no proficiency tests, and you can carry any weapon that’s legal to possess in the state.
      – No magazine capacity limits.
      – The entire Iowa code for firearms laws is 15 pages and can be viewed on line at the Iowa Department of Public Safety’s website.

      The Bad:
      – No NFA or Class III weapons.
      – Permit to purchase (or CCW) required for handguns (3 day wait).
      – No constitutional carry.
      – No stand your ground.

      Personally I don’t have any desire for an SBR or suppressor so I’ll gladly take what we’ve got. I read every firearms law on the books in less than an hour, and the CCW process is about as easy as you can get without constitutional carry. Way better than Texas IMHO.

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    • They’ve also got Utah down as a may-issue state. Although maybe they consider Utah’s training requirement to be “law enforcement discretion”…which it’s not.

      I think they’re just making most of this crap up.

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  13. At least three of the state-level laws on MAIG’s comparison make no sense, given that they’re already federal law: the first two have to do with lying on a 4473, and the last one is about FFL inspections.

    So those ones are actively nonsensical, as opposed to just MAIG’s usual ‘wrong’.

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    • A further note—it’s indicative of their extremism that MAIG’s list of ten Reasonable, Common-Sense ™ Gun Laws averages about three or four if you look at the country as a whole.

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  14. According to the graphic, 38 (smaller) states have a higher rate of crime gun exports. I suspect that crime guns follow the criminal who moves around and doesn’t actually indicate “gun trafficking”.

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  15. And what the f is the point of a 308 with a 16 inch barrel?? The 308 needs those inches to reach its potential. If you’re going to ballistically hamstring your 308, you may as well go with a light package and go AK/SKS/300 BLK

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  16. Missouri: Shall issue CCW, no AWB, no mag limits, no waiting period. You need to be 18 to buy long guns or 21 for handguns, but only from an FFL. Private transfers are not regulated. I think you need to be 18 to possess either type. The only thing we can’t do is open carry long guns.

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  17. North Carolina isn’t too terrible, either.

    Still got that absolutely fucking retarded pistol purchase “permit” business (which I unfortunately just had to go through) to deal with. Not to mention the de-facto ban on NFA items what with only a grand total of three (3) out of over one-fucking-HUNDRED jurisdictions that will EVER sign off on Form 4s for ANY reason whatsoever.

    On the plus side, we now have restaurant (and bar) carry. Castle Doctrine was expanded to our POVs, places of work, and business. We can at least keep our sidearms in our cars on school campuses (much to the consternation of Duke University). Oh, and long-standing permit-less open-carry (which may or may not be frowned upon depending where you live anyway… Chapel Hill I’m looking at you), and “shall-issue” CCWs.

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  18. Idaho:
    – Semi Constitutional Carry (outside incorporated city limits)
    – Open Carry
    – NFA Friendly
    – Enacted Firearms Freedom Law
    – Easy to get a CCW
    – CCW Waives NICS requirements
    – No waiting periods
    – No interference in private party sales
    – No Codified Caste Doctrine or Stand your ground, but our case law supports it.
    – There is some legislative interest in codifying the above and making the state fully constitutional carry.
    – There is strong gun culture (at least outside of Boise) in most of the state. Almost everyone I talk to owns guns, has a ccw, and/or hunts.

    So overall 9/10. The only state that rivals us is AZ , IMHO, and I would not want to live there (We have more beautiful land, and more of it.)

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  19. I’m not sure if a buttstock and adapter constitutes hybridization; kinda like saying a saddle on a person constitutes the first human equine hybrid.

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  20. I rest easy, for I am in Utah. Other than the cold and smog, it’s pretty damn good here in the land o Zion. And props to guys like Mike Lee who have continually demonstrated they’re not just talk when it comes to gun laws.

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  21. My question is out of the three sizes which one would work best for an 11.6 inch lap top/ occasional school bag? Are the compartments large enough to hold a few textbooks and the laptop and keep them seperated?

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  22. NC is not as bad as some: Shall issue and restaurant carry are some good points.

    On the bad side, those little “No Guns In Here” signs DO carry force of law here, and there’s no format they to which they have to adhere. So, carry where a sign is up, and it’s not just trespassing.

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  23. Having shot both a FNS40L and Glock 35…I bought the G35Gen4…It is available at LEO pricing that is very economical. GLOCK hands down has the best “Discount program” of any manufacturer. No its not a Sig, but for @ 425 try and find better value. Plus Gen4 guns get three mags. I own several FNs, but they need to get behind us in this country.

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  24. First, their information on my state is wrong.

    Second, looking at their own stats for other states demonstrates how little sense their criteria make.
    For instance, Hawaii is a net exporter of “crime guns” just like Texas is even though Hawaii has 9 out of ten of their little green check marks for gun restrictions. So what would passing those laws in Texas accomplish if criminals are still “importing” weapons from Hawaii, a state with relatively restrictive laws that can only be accessed by air or water?

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  25. Arizona is good for now, but I have my doubts it will stay that way into the future. Five out of nine US House reps from the State are now Democrats, which suggests that the State is turning purple and will eventually probably become blue. A Democratic State can still be fairly pro-gun, but only if the gun ownership rate is high, which it actually doesn’t seem to be here (I’ve seen a 30 percent figure, which is OK, but not great). I don’t know if Western States, CA aside, will ever become quite like NJ or MA, but they can certainly get a lot worse than they are now.

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  26. I read the opinion piece. The author is a racist. He admits that he struck out at every perceived slight when he was young, and though he claims to have adopted his parents’ peaceful means of dialogue and reconciliation, he is unchanged inside. His perception that “stand your ground” laws are merely a legal excuse for allowing white people to murder black youths is utter tripe. And the question he poses is a non sequitur–if your fear of immediate injury or death is reasonable, then lethal force is justified as a matter of law. End of discussion. The law does not concern itself with individual’s moral dilemmas, only conduct. Moral issues are left to the legislatures that enact the laws.

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    • An AR can shoot 30 rounds in rapid succession, long distance, with only one hand. There are a number if reasons why the AR is popular. Its ideal for self defense, patrol, hunting, and sport shooting.

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  27. What a joke. There are no gun rights in these 50 states. They have been infringed. Period.

    If one conforms sufficiently, jumps through the necessary hoops, then pays the required extortion fees, maybe one will be extended “gun privileges.” Subject to revocation, of course, at any time.

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  28. And In Kalifornia – the good guys finally win eventually (maybe).

    Cal Fire to Pay $30M for ‘Egregious and Reprehensible Conduct’
    The agency’s response to the 2007 Moonlight fire has been at issue and criticized for years.

    Feb. 06–In a blistering ruling against Cal Fire, a judge in Plumas County has found the agency guilty of “egregious and reprehensible conduct” in its response to the 2007 Moonlight fire and ordered it to pay more than $30 million in penalties, legal fees and costs to Sierra Pacific Industries and others accused in a Cal Fire lawsuit of causing the fire.

    Full piece at
    http://www.firehouse.com/news/11306300/cal-fire-fined-30m-for-egregious-and-reprehensible-actions-at-2007-moonlight-fire?utm_source=FH+Newsday&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CPS140131002

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  29. I suggest that we start a movement to put loudeners on the muzzles of every gun in the ‘no-nfa-items’ states until they allow suppressors.
    Or, for that matter, on every gun everywhere, until people beg the Feds to take suppressors off of the NFA list altogether.

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  30. MA is divided on guns. Permits are granted by local LEOs, and some of them are very supportive. The others are a bunch of fascists.

    Statewide, there is a two-feature AWB and a 10-round limit on post-AWB mags. “Pre-ban” mags are legal and can be loaded up the kazoo. There are few rules about where I can’t carry (schools and courthouses), and I legally carry in government buildings, bars and restaurants. There’s no SYG, and there’s a weak Castle Doctrine.

    Boston has its own rules, and getting a full carry permit is almost impossible. When I visit Boston via train (carry on the T is legal), I’m better armed than the people who live in Beantown. Which truly tickles my fancy since I’m a lifelong Yankees fan.

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  31. CT and terrible in general BUT we do have a few nice things for people who carry (although some of the gray areas they create I would prefer to see cleared up in a way friendly to gun/gun owner/carrier way).

    1 – Carrying a firearm loaded up to .1% BAC is perfectly legal! I can be too drunk to drive but not too drunk to carry. After .1% BAC I can’t carry a loaded gun (good luck trying to find a definition of loaded though).

    2 – There is no burden on me to ask a home owner, business owner/manager, or property owner/manager if it is OK for me to carry on their property even if I suspect they may not be ok with it. I’d like to see it legally required by law to be posted unambiguously on places of business, private property is well, a private matter.

    3 – Open carry of long guns and handguns is allowed. We even recently had it clarified in a DESPP memo that it is not creating a public disturbance, etc etc when someone is open carrying.

    4 – Pre 1994 firearms have managed to elude additional regulation.

    5 – Carrying is not banned by state law pretty much everywhere most people go, i.e bars, restaurants, sporting arenas, movie theaters, etc etc. These places can take it upon themselves to ban it or local ordnance may ban it.

    Now for the bad… absolutely everything else to include but not limited to AWB 1.0, PA 13-3, registration, the permitting process, our scattered firearms/use of force laws (they are spread between 5 or more different sections of the General Statutes making it very difficult to do thorough research), our laws lacking definitions, the DESPP refusing to take responsibility in any advice they give or help in compiling any list of laws that can be considered legally binding, so and and so forth.

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  32. ah yes, lovely albuquerque. the minor city with major city crime. went to high school there. somehow graduated without acute lead poisoning.

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  33. Open carry but under the threat of being charged with terrorizing the public if one of the public wants to file charges. Concealed carry almost anywhere now including bars. Muddy law concerning what constitutes concealed carry. Muddy law concerning concealed and open carry in a vehicle. Concealed carry laws only allow concealing a handgun. A long gun in a soft or hard case could be considered illegal concealment. Like I said muddy, very muddy wording but we’ve come a long way in the last 20 years with the majority of all guns laws past being pro gun.

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  34. It seems pretty obvious to me that once the investigation had run out of steam and money there had to be some busts or some LEO’s were going to be looking for new jobs. The whole thing sucks but the hunters have Paul Valone on their side and that’s a very good thing. On the other hand, I find it hard to believe these “hunters” couldn’t smell bacon if you know what I mean. Maybe it’s just me but even from way back in high school I had a 6th sense about under cover cops.

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  35. While I am warming to the idea that Serpas are not ideal for new shooters and may potentially be more dangerous to employ (namely to the range safety officers who are at risk and choose to ban them), I cannot fathom why everyone treats the Serpa as if it doing the shooting itself.

    “What caused this negligent discharge? A SERPA Holster.”

    Incorrect. Otherwise I would keep my Serpas far away from my pistols.

    So besides for this article getting off to a terrible start, I have concluded that they may not be ideal in all situations. I will continue to wear mine and train with it as the product was intended.

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  36. B- ,we have it way better than a lot of states but I’m not grading on a curve and less infringement than my neighbors does not equal not infringed.

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  38. Is it just me or at 6:47 is the guy with the pistol lasering the ass of the guy in front of him? Talk about a bad day.

    Agreed with above, 4 rules dont not eva’ go on vacation and man I bet that AR in the car rang his bell.

    EDIT: Just rewatched the end of the video and he clearly says “Hey are we good? I cant hear anything.” 🙂

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  39. If he’d just learn to shoot lefty he’d save a lot of tax payer dollars spent on windshields.
    Love the “Neil McCauley” method.
    Best regards,
    lefty-AR-Shooter with lefty upper. 8)

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  40. “There is little or no public safety justification for open carry,”

    YOU DON’T FREAKING NEED ANY!!!

    Sorry, I get tired of the public safety justification. The gummint needs justification in order to pass a law that restricts an existing freedom.

    For one, the Second Amendment places the right to keep and bear arms on a select list of freedoms that the government CANNOT TOUCH, regardless of justification.

    Second, because the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed and we’re talking about STOPPING the infringement, what more freaking justification can you possibly need?

    “We’d be removing restrictions on a God given right protected by the constitution, but because we can’t figure out that it would make people safer we’re not going to do it.”

    Bullshit.

    /rant

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    • Possibly a better approach would be to cite all the states that have open carry and the utter lack of an uptick in shootings. So you have a net neutral situation, why not increase liberty. offers folks with lower income or escaped battered spouses able to defend against violent threat as a bonus. Makes the anti-arguments kinda ring hollow

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  41. The best part about this is even if shes a giant liar, it makes not supporting open carry look stupid. It completely pushes stricter gun laws off the political feasibility spectrum. If the Dem candidate supports it, this has to happen or Repubs are going to be branded as the opportunistic liars they’ve looked like.

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  42. Good job revisiting the issue. After having a discussion with a few others in the comments below the original article, I conceded that given the realities of the situation it is the solution that makes the most overall sense. Not something I personally want to do, but something that needs to be done nonetheless.

    “At the end of the day, I did feel a slight twinge of remorse once back on the ground — I’d have my doubts about the mental stability of anyone who didn’t. ”

    I think that is the concern amongst most people when you really dig down. It is the motivation, rather than the actual act, that is concerning.

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  43. I am an avid hunter and think this helicopter hog hunt is disgusting. I agree with the guy who said hunt like a man. You probably spotlight and poach deer too. This is taking the sport out of the sport. The thrill of hunting is putting boots on the ground and enjoying nature not destroying it. You also probably spend the week at a game reserve hunting, where they feed and tame the animals. Then brag about the big hunt. That ain’t hunting by any stretch.

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  44. Edited/produced by Pat Vasquez-Cunningham.

    There is a guy who should never touch any recording, editing or playback device. Not under any circumstances. None at all. No siree.

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  45. If we are talking ethical and stuartship, how about a .30 cal instead of .223/5.56. Clean killing. They are tough big animals.

    Also, I can see in extreme remote areas leaving them be, but where possible, shouldn’t they be retrieved and donated. Drop a GPS point on them from the helo and go back in with a jeep and a 4×4 trailer and retrieve. I am all for eradication but do it as painlessly, cleanly and use the meat. It is a free resource to be used wisely.

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  46. Thank you for settling all the hype surrounding this particular round.

    Did you ever get a chance to do a similar review of Liberty “Civil Defense” 50gr 9x19mm round? That’s the one that they claim does 2000 FPS out of a handgun. There was a lot of talk around it back when it appeared, and a lot of people similarly dismissed it as BS, but I’m still curious – especially since nothing in the construction of their bullet indicates anything out of the ordinary, it’s just a simple mass-for-velocity trade-off. Although they also claim fragmentation due to the aforementioned velocity causing a much wider permanent wound cavity…

    I tried to find some actual info on it, especially tests – I don’t care much for speculation – but I’ve only seen one so far, which seems to be more supportive of their claims than not. It would be nice to have an independent verification (or debunking, as it may be).

    One other thing that I’m really curious about is how it would fare out of a 9mm carbine. It’s a well-established fact that lighter bullets get more velocity gain out of the longer carbine barrels than heavier ones, and so in theory, going for a lighter bullet would maximize the kinetic energy gain. One guy chrono’d it out of his Sterling, and claims a muzzle velocity of 2500 FPS… this is actually pretty close to 5.56 fired out of a 10″ SBR!

    I’ve had a chance to shoot it out of my Sub-2000 (no measurements, just plinking), and it has two other side benefits out of it – minimal recoil compared to heavier rounds (you get more recoil out of 9mm in those carbines because they’re usually straight blowback), and much flatter trajectory that permits “battle zero” out to almost 200 yards. All in all, this makes it a good choice for a carbine… provided that its terminal ballistics are actually good.

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  47. I just don’t get it. Why don’t the cops arrest him while he is walking his dog or shopping for groceries? Yes, they have the element of surprise with a no-knock door kicking, but that is going to produce a fight or flight response, and some people are going to fight. Morons.

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  48. DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    So, let me get this straight, this member of MENSA had to step in it first before figuring out it was bad for US. REAL bright that one isn’t!

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  49. Good article. I’d encourage people to form mini-Pro 2nd amendment groups for local PR and such (just like the MDA and Ceasefire does). If we can carry this momentum for a few years, maybe the politicians will finally start seriously looking at the root causes (mental-health/suicide, and gang violence being the big two) we can counter and bury this anti-gun, anti-common sense gun-control movement.

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