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Question of the Day: Has the NRA Failed The People of the Gun?

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The NRA YouTube video below has received 1,085 views between January 30 and this morning, February 4. What does that tell you? What NRA Veep Wayne LaPierre is telling viewers: the NRA is “Donald Trump’s Strongest Ally.” Wrong answer? I mean . . .

. . . the NRA’s closerthanthis relationship with President Trump leaves no room for manuever. No room for their lobbyists to pressure the Prez to do the right thing, using the only negotiating technique worth a damn: the threat to walk away.

At this point, the NRA can’t walk away. Not as its adopted President Trump’s “make America great” again slogan and publicly declared its fealty to the former assault weapons ban supporter.

President Trump should work with Congress to get the “how obviously benign can a pro-gun rights law be” Hearing Protection Act passed. He should push legislators to repeal the Gun Free School Zones Act and enact national reciprocity, the single most important [potential] gun rights restoration bill in our lifetime.

But why should he? President Trump’s inaction on firearms freedom risks nothing — thanks to the NRA’s decision to jump in bed and cuddle a President who’s best described as mercurial.

In this political alignment, has the NRA failed The People of the Gun?

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Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.

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  1. I can remember when there used to be “parts kits” for sale on the Internet that included everything except for the serial numbered receiver. They were from handguns seized by the police, who had the registered receiver destroyed and then sold the unregistered “parts” to private individuals who then re-sold them. IDK whether they would only sell the parts to ffl’s or not, but anyone could purchase them in the secondary market. They usually weren’t all that expensive. Of course, for most people there was no easy or cheap way to get the receiver, back then.

    Now that we can make our own completed receiver from an “80%” kit buying all the other parts pushes the total price above that of a “store bought” new gun. Or do I just not know where to find the cheap parts kits?

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    • “Now that we can make our own completed receiver from an “80%” kit buying all the other parts pushes the total price above that of a “store bought” new gun. Or do I just not know where to find the cheap parts kits?”

      If you want a 100% stock Glock then this is not going to be cheaper. However, if you think you’ll end up upgrading your stock Glock’s trigger or barrel…or would eand up paying someone to modify the stock Glock’s frame for an undercut trigger, the removal of finger groves, or the addition of an extended beavertail, then the 80% route will likely be cheaper.

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  2. Trump’s inaction on guns? The hell is that supposed to mean? Do you not realize federal laws have to be changed by an elected legislature? And to the point of executive orders Trump has done a lot. He rescinded almost all (maybe even all) of Obama’s EOs, while ending operation choke point. In that alone, he’s done more for gun rights than any president since Hoover. It’s a low bar, for sure, but it’s nothing to sneeze at. He’s also had a more conservative first year than Reagan, therefore also being the most conservative since Hoover as well. Want real reform on gun rights? We got to twist the GOPs arm into getting a bill to Trumps desk, that’s he’s already said he’d sign. Trumps lip service to the second amendment alone is more to the cause than the right lipped Romney/McCain/Bush republicans who saw the gun rights movement as an inconvenience. I expect TTAG to have a better grasp on the political reality of the situation than this.

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      • Yeah. That’s kindve part of what I’m saying. Saying “Trump’s inaction on guns” is just being flat out ignorant. Trump has little to no power to effect federal law by himself.

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        • He has it within his power to open NFA amnesty for 30 or 60 days. He has it in his power to rollback 41F BS, he has it within his control to have forms 1 and 3 rubber stamped within 30 days. There is a lot he can do if he was motivated

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  3. I don’t know enough about the players and circumstances to pontificate about politics. I can only try to discern right from wrong and do as much right and as little wrong as I can. I suspect that most of us see the world through a key hole and only ever know a small part of the story.

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  4. Trump is currently in the process of destroying the Democrat party while fighting the RINO wing of the Republican Party, packing the courts with pro-constitutional judges, doing all that can be asked on the messes left behind by others such as North Korea and Iran, while simultaneously fighting an ongoing coup attempt by high level officials in the NSA/DOJ/FBI, and you’re disappointed that he hasn’t had time yet to handle your issues??!!!

    This coup represents an existential threat to our Republic. The outcome is still in doubt. Can we focus on helping him to win that battle before we worry about the heating protection act?

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    • Indeed. Trumps leadership thus far has exposed just how deep, and just how far the swamp reaches. The insane media, the deep state, the international effort to destroy Americanism. We are lucky Trump ran and won. Any other republican president would’ve been effectively neutered by this extreme, insane, liberal media. He decided to fight it and won. Hopefully that will give the rest of the GOP their balls back in future elections.

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    • If Trump was half as good at management as he says he is, then most of the regulations we complain about would be fixed by now. All he had to do was appoint someone who knew what they were doing and was pro-2A.

      I (as an appointee) probably could have gotten it done by now, and I’ve never run a government agency before. (This is meant as a taller than Mickey Rooney comparison).

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  5. Yes the NRA has fooled us. And it’s clear that they will not change, history has shown us this. They will continue to give our rights away and then fundraise off of it.

    They will not change, and their latest actions are inexcusable. Had any gun manufacturer (well besides AI) pulled the same stunt there would be endless calls for boycotts, but why not the NRA? Because of the fudds and fools.

    It’s time we take our money elsewhere, and to possibly start boycotting manufacturers that continue to support the NRA ad they give our rights away and profit off of it.

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  6. theyre on 5 year probation after the vegas/bumpstock/atf debacle

    the claim or suggestion that was some type of a strategic retreat or cunning outmaneuver is a canard and woefully dishonest on its face

    it was either a rookie mistake cowardice or done on purpose

    there are no other possibilities

    either way it was just short of unforgivable

    maga

    four more years

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  7. You nailed it! The NRA has failed the People of the Gun. We must band together and punish Wayne by ensuring the filthy, lying democrats take control of the United States House of Representatives and Senate. No more money for the NRA ILA. That will show him! As for Trump, what has he done for us lately? He is a big do nothing president. It is not as if he has to contend with filthy, lying, obstructionist democrats in the congress and corrupt, traitorous, criminal bureaucrats in the Department of Justice and FBI. He has wasted an entire year focused on trivial issues like the economy, national defense, immigration, health care reform and judicial appointments. We want what we want and we want it now! Are we becoming special princess snowflakes?

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  8. NRA has become more political and less advocate for its core principles. The relentless marketing, big salaries, selective (I’m in NY, I’m fairly convinced NRA works with a 49 state map that doesn’t include us in NY) support and condescending attitude toward the voice of the membership.
    It’s time for Wayne to move on, it’s time for grass roots safety and marksmanship programs to return to NRA’s priorities and it’s time for the membership to have a true voice in the organization and not only the hierarchy.

    They have accomplished a lot for some of us and near nothing for many others.

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  9. The NRA has totally missed its mark and gotten away from what their goals should be. Here’s what I think they should work toward.
    1. Full repeal of NFA, GCA, and Hughes.
    2. National reciprocity.
    3. End state level gun control.
    4. Make training and ranges easy to access for all.
    5. Build at least one range with full facilities in every county across the country.
    6. Encourage and assist gun oriented entrprenuers.
    7. Support and expand gun sports (3 gun etc).
    8. Maintain those victories and expand on them.

    I understand completing these goals means a massive shift in policy, but their goal should have always been a slow transition to a civilian training and competition organization. Sure, they may lose that huge bankroll and the execs may have to give up that private jet but hey your post shouldn’t be your career. You want a career in corruption and screwing over your voters just run for Congress or POTUS.

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  10. While Trump could do a little more, the real problem is with the Senate, especially Majority Leader Mitch McConnell since he could have set votes on any of what we want months ago.

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  11. Not stepping in a caliber war on a bet. However my first thought was what about people in New Jersey and San Francisco, California. Where hollow points are illegal. These are not hollow points!

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  12. [Apologies in advance for the length.]

    I’m probably going to be in the minority here but no, I don’t think the NRA has “failed”. Stumbled, sure but no war is a series of continuous victories with no setbacks.

    The NRA finds itself in an odd position because, at least on paper, they should be winning. Republicans control the House, POTUS and technically the Senate but don’t have the votes in the Senate to get to 60 on practically anything pro-gun related. They might be able to pull Manchin over to the vote Yea on something but that’s about it due to the liquidation of *cough* rational Democrats in previous election cycles.

    Combine that with a media that has, quite frankly, lost it’s collective mind and will attack anything Trump supports as “treason”, “Russian collusion”, a “Constitutional crisis” or a “threat to National Security”. Then add in the Mueller investigation which is going God-knows-where and may end up with politically motivated charges against God-knows-who, including the POTUS. Then add in the fact that 2A issues were never really on the front-burner because immigration, taxes, the ACA, the economy, trade and a bunch of other issues like ISIS were far larger fish to fry and you get what we have today.

    Now, on the plus side, taxes have been dealt with, the economy is improving (though unevenly in some regards) for the near-term and ISIS has been driven from it’s strongholds in the ME. However, immigration is shaping up to be one hell of a fight, ISIS is on the move to safe havens which are shortly going to enter into the American consciousness when people start seeing serious movement in Africa (where ISIS an, AQ, AQAP and others are moving to) and our necessary responses to that. Afghanistan is going to continue to be a problem. Of course the Republicans botched the ACA which will have to be revisited, especially since a ton of smaller and more rural hospitals are about to get fucked (which is going to become a serious political hot potato later this year or early next). Trade is going to be a cluster-fuck for awhile here… and then of course there’s the other shit that’s either too long of a list to mention here or is currently lurking out there in the darkness of the unknown.

    So, irregardless of what the NRA says or does the status quo shall remain until at least after the midterms. The impatient won’t like it and will look to blame someone or some entity but the facts are the facts. We’re small potatoes and there’s a lot of bigger shit going on at this point at the national level.

    Were I a betting man I’d place money that there are winning bets to be made that if we watch for some strategically placed lawsuits against certain States and certain State laws coming from the NRA, that we might see some movement. However I don’t expect much else in the immediate future. Some of this shit is winnable, er… well, it should be pretty easily winnable if the court bothers to read the Constitution (in some cases that of the State in question). Other states are effectively lost to the NRA. There’s not much point in them spending money in a state like Massachusetts or California to lobby. That’s just pissing money down a rathole.

    As for other organizations to support I am of two minds on that. There’s nothing wrong with supporting GOA or whatever but these organizations are generally small in comparison to the NRA so I question how effective they really can be no matter how driven they are.

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    • “We’re small potatoes and there’s a lot of bigger shit going on at this point at the national level.” This will always be the case. If we want change, we’re gong to have to be willing to take our ball and go home every now and then, which is scary.

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  13. “But why should he? President Trump’s inaction on firearms freedom risks nothing…”

    This is the problem with the 2nd Amendment movement’s close relationship to the GOP as a whole. The GOP gets the most money and voter activity when gun rights are threatened. Fear motivates voting more than gratitude. So of course they’re not going to do anything really useful in terms of legislation when they’d rather pay off huge multi-national corporations with tax breaks instead.

    But I don’t see a way out of it either. It’s a secondary harm from the ridiculous 2 party monopoly that has been allowed to entrench itself.

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  14. If Albany knows how many permit holders are not in compliance would it not be safe to assume that Albany already has access to a Statewide Database? DUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH!

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  15. Oh, for f-ck’s sake Farago, this again?

    Trump lifted the ban Obama placed on firearms in government park lands/lead ammunition. Trump reversed the rule that required social security to report mental disability for background checks. Trump has taken no action during a mass shooting when it would have been politically expedient to do so. Oh, look: Trump Dismisses Calls for Gun Control Post-Texas Church Shooting. And where’s this headline in your monologue: Trump Opened Door for Citizens to Acquire More Surplus Pistols from U.S. Military

    “In December 12, 2017, Trump signed the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act which included an amendment allowing citizens to acquire another batch of surplus 1911 pistols from the military. The International Business Times estimates approximately 100,000 1911s could soon be available for purchase via the Citizens Marksmanship Program.”

    Sure you reported the guns are coming, but there is one person singularly responsible for them.

    Look, I know you’re not getting everything you want now-now-now like a petulant child, but what’s with these panic pieces? TOO COZY TO TRUMP! NO ROOM TO MANEUVER! FAILED THE PEOPLE OF THE GUN! And while you’re panicking about this crap, how about mentioning his progun nominations in Ryan Zinke as Interior Secretary and Neil Gorsuch to the Supremes? All of this is easily more pro-gun than the last three presidents COMBINED.

    No, seriously. WTF is wrong with you? That’s my question of the day.

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    • Exactly! All the m1 garands coming back too. And the presidents lip service to the second amendment after mass shootings isn’t small potatoes. It’s worth it’s weight in gold. The national conversation following shootings is no longer one sided with just constant gun controllers screaming. We’re screaming back and lead by our president. That changes everything.

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  16. RF is clearly no sailor. It’s anchors aweigh not away. It means the anchor is now clear of the sea bottom but not aboard yet.

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  17. I’m horrified at the seizure of personal property. What can you do? I don’t see the NRA or GOAl helping ( maybe they are and I missed it). One would think the ACLU would step in. And no I am not concussed……

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  18. Most of the anti hunters in the comments here think that meat goes to waste In Africa? That’s nonsense. I am willing to wager that someone if not local villagers carve that shit up and take it home. Ever heard of bush meat? I have multiple acquaintances that have hunted in Africa and both have told about whatever the hunted was carved up used by villagers for food and little or no waste was produced. In fact in some cases the gamekeeper officer that must accompany the hunt party arranged the processing with locals. The hunters I know got to have some premier steaks out if their kills and that’s about it. I realize this canned hunt thing is a little different but I would wager that even the lion meat gets used.

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  19. Because We the People, have no say. Republicans and Democrats are just good cop bad cop. And the president is just a figurehead or scape goat depending on how ” the powers that be” need to play it. As ISIS proved to North Korea, and Clinton proved to impeachement, America has no power.

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  20. Wayne LaPierre or more properly LaChamberlin Needs To GO and Don’t Let The Door Hit Him In The Backside On The Way Out Said Door.
    No more Stand And Capitulate that the Negotiating Rights Away since 1934,time to become the NRA.

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  21. If all the people who truly cared about Liberty had voted Libertarian in the last election, the Libertarian party would have received at least 20% of the vote, and that would have shaken Washington and the establishment parties to their core. It is so lame to say that “I won’t vote for such-and-such a party because they don’t stand a chance”!
    It is frequently said that a vote for a third party is a wasted vote. I say that the only wasted vote is a vote that doesn’t reflect your conscience! If you “strategize” how you vote and think that you have to pick between the lesser of two evils, then you are contributing to our slide into tryanny.

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    • Except the libertarian party isn’t libertarian anymore. They’re pretty much just liberals now who are slightly less aggressive on gun control.

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      • Hank: Thank you for pointing out what should be obvious:
        Libertarians aren’t libertarian,
        Republicans aren’t repub, but it’s hard to tell them from
        Democrats that aren’t democratic,
        Conservatives that aren’t NEO,
        Who the F— ISN’T working toward globalism? It seems ONLY the Non-Swampers might not be, but there’s too much muck sticking to the wall to find out.
        I tell my swamp representatives: Might as well try MAGA, it appears to be the only possible escape, but they reply “I hear you, BUT…”

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  22. Hey, isn’t it time for the NRA to back another NFA 1934 or yet another 1986-style machinegun ban?? Pfft….NRA can go pound sand, I dropped it years ago….

    One (or both?) of Pres. Trumps sons *shoot* and *hunt*, I’m not talking about ‘landed gentry quail hunting’ like that miserable Senator John Cornyn pulls to fool the Texas voters. They’ve got their Dad’s ear, NOT the NRA.

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  23. Why blame just the NRA for stalled legislation. McConnell is a large part of the swamp and he has got to go. To jerk around any bill on his desk for almost a year is unforgivable.
    With one exception. Reciprocity doesn’t have the senate votes. Yet.
    No ones rights should end at an imaginary line. NO ONES.
    There is no reason what so ever that a state issued permit which is a tax to begin with. Isnt seen in the same light as a marriage or drivers license.
    I want the swamp drained and Trump is doing what he can to drain it.
    1 or 2 more Supreme Court appointments and a lot of our current problems will have a good chance of being in the past.

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  24. Judicial Watch seems to be doing 10 times more good for us than the nra. I’m throwing in with them. The nra has degenerated into a perpetual fund raising activity.

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  25. I like belt fed, but it’s hard to see putting it on my wish list with starting msrp of $3820 for just the upper.

    I think I’d rather spend $3850 on a $600 AR and 10,000 rounds. But if you’ve got the cash to waste plus enough for ammo and belt links, why not?

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  26. NRA got complacent and is too busy trying to be an insurance co. Carry Guard may or may not be great, but for the 25% of the country that lives in a shall issue state its a slap in the face. And also opens the NRA up to conflict of interest if mandatory insurance comes up in a bill. What will they go with- your rights or their bottom line? I always bet on bottom line.

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  27. I did pay attention to the candidates, and running as Libertarians they did adopt the platform. It’s not about “weed” for me(never touch the stuff),it’s about our right to run our own lives. They weren’t purist libertarians, for sure. But I’ll take a Republican-turned-imperfect-libertarian over the other offerings…

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  28. If we align ourselves like the unions we will find our selves getting visited by the politicians every 4 years when they need votes and forgotten about quickly after. We should be loyal to no one blindly but rather by the results they get and the record they hold.

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  29. Heh, crowds will get to you. When I covered ComicCon Denver I was surprised how tired I was by the end of the second day. You don’t feel like you’re doing that much when you’re doing it but when you stop moving/check your FitBit you realize you’ve actually done a lot of moving and that it’s made worse by having to fight through the crowds.

    Nice that you could work some humor in, well done.

    Sucks that you have issues with flying to the point that you need to take serious benzos to do it but hey, at least your more functional than my friend’s wife. She drinks like half a fifth of top shelf Scotch before getting on a plane…

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  30. So….. actually we need to turn the clock back to the original purchase. Why was it approved? Was his visa status part of the background check? He stored the gun at the campus police, but they never questioned a Student Visa holder having a gun? Had we denied the sale in the first place; he would not be in this mess.

    By the way. The guy needs to spend more time in class & less on buying ammo.

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  31. As for the WWII style ammo… There’s plenty of companies that make Garand food with the original spec already, so that’s not really much of interest. More sources of full-brass shells is nice though.

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  32. …My only other thoughts about this story is that if it isn’t happening in China…Then this has to be NJ. , NY., CA., Massachusetts(–but no Bump fire stocks , or Cranks in this story..) Maybe a “2nd Amendment Paramilitarized Police Confiscation Squad from Washington state…) Connecticut…?

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  33. Sounds like Mr. Wildlife got a small taste of what it’s like to be just a regular POTG and didn’t like it one bit. Welp buddy drink a nice tall refreshing glass of suck it the f**k up and get used to it, because that’s how we’re all treated for carrying. That lady saying she feared for her life? Sheeit that’s normal for a carrier if their piece gets spotted somehow, then we have to talk to the manager and the local PD about it.

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  34. “[Note: All restaurants in the Bloomin’ Brands portfolio — Outback Steakhouse, Carrabba’s Italian Grill, Bonefish Grill, Fleming’s Prime Steakhouse and Roy’s — are “gun free zones.” Unless you’re a cop. “We are not disrespectful of the rights of gun owners, we merely want all of our guests to feel welcomed and safe, and frankly see no need for guns to be brought into restaurants.”]
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    Me and a buddy and our wives were not aware of this policy and saw no firearms not allowed signs a couple of weeks ago when we had dinner there.
    It won’t be a problem in the future as I will not darken their doorstep or any other of their establishments,Outback can go back to the outback.

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  35. The “Battleworn” finish gives the gun ‘some old soldier gravitas’ or ‘the false impression of some old soldier gravitas’? Jon, I know that you are in no way shape or form a pretender, but I think you are being a bit generous with your description of an option that could be construed as an unspoken ready made lie mostly for posers. I suppose it could also be construed as humor though, a polymer gun’s finish wearing down to bare metal that is.

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  36. Wow. We can’t deport people here illegally, but someone comes here legally and does something explicitly protected by the Constitution, and he is imprisoned and denied bail.

    We’re doomed, folks.

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  37. 1. Guns are inanimate objects. Like SUVs, they are incapable of self-actualization.

    2. Guns do not exert mystical powers over the minds of peaceful law-abiding people.

    3. When armed, avoid traveling in CA, IL, NJ, MD, HI, and other fascistic jurisdictions.

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  38. 1: Anything written about guns or gun owners in the mass market media is a pack of lies & propaganda
    2: Firearms are the most effective tool of self empowerment, they equalize everyone independent of age, sex, race, religion or disability
    3: Most politicians are self serving, corrupt, petty, wannabe tyrants on a power-trip who believe that they are better than you. They don’t want you to have guns; discuss!

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  39. 1. Guns are like penises, bigger is better.
    2. Guns are like penises, shoot first and worry later.
    3. Guns are like penises, keep it in your pants until you actually need it.

    I’m starting to have real fun with this one…

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  40. Bloomberg and Monsanto Mom couldn’t find enough unemployed SJW’s to IP spoof and enter false credentials at a nickel per post to pump up the pro-ban numbers?

    I hope they really did try and inflate their pro-ban numbers and still failed this miserably. That would feel sooooo good.

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  41. How about severely punish those that steal. Make it not worth their time. Why is it up to law abiding people to solve the criminal problem. Who ever gets caught with a stolen gun 15 years minimum mandatory and they have to work in prison to pay for themselves…

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  42. Just got mine today. WOW! I love the fact that it feels like a real rifle not some dam plastic toy. If needed you could knock somebody out with it. Solid built. Fit and finish, grip areas are perfect. This is a Home Run for Ruger!!!!

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  43. NOT in commie kalifornia! It’s just to dangerous for the unwashed serfs, AKA LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS to own.
    Warning America. Kalifornia is much like an STD, infectious and spreads.

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  44. A Mate of mine live up in the NW Territory somewhere. We talk often of the insanity going on in AUS with gun control. I can promise if this article reaches the “right” person, there will be more than a couple led away in handcuffs. Bragging you have a zip pen with illegally altered 9mm rounds? Bragging you are using your probably legal crossbow for self-defense and using it in a patrol of your neighborhood? This will not end well for these idiots.

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  45. I am glad for the list but I enjoyed reading the comments. I’ll usually do that before hitting play, as that’s a tell-all for the video.
    I’ll add one to the list, if nothing else but a personal preference. A Smith & Wesson model 66 no dash, SS, including front & rear sights. Pre-lock (1972) & P&R. Why? Cause they don’t make them anymore. The 686 kind of took their place but that made it an L frame when they beefed the crane & forcing cone up & I like the K frame better (This is the personal preference part). That being said, I did trade it once for a pistol (Beretta) & another S&W .38 special & regretted it the day I did it. Happy ending though. I found it again & now have it back (same serial #) & it won’t go anywhere till I die & leave it to my son. Hell…I may take it with me. You never know if something needs shootin’ on the other side! Lol

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