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NY Times Acknowledges the Need for National Concealed Carry Reciprocity – Quote of the Day

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“As you know, there is absolutely no national consensus when it comes to the right to carry a concealed weapon in public places. You have Missouri, where you can just buy a gun and put it in your pocket. You have places like California, where people are carefully screened, trained and tested before they can get a gun and permit. The N.R.A. yearns for a federal law that would allow Missourians to tote their guns around California, no questions asked. And here it is!” – Gail Collins in Oh Lord, Now the Gun Thing’s Back [via nytimes.com]

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  1. “You have places like California, where people are carefully screened, trained and tested before they can get a gun and permit.”

    No, the correct term is “harassed”. Trained and tested is nobody in Califailure.

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    • You have places like California, where out of 40+ counties some are shall issue and others are a rubber stamp no issue, ironically causing the same problems we have nationally. Zones where rights are denied due to state overreach right next to zones where everyone can carry.

      We are just trying to make the national arena match what California already has.

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  2. First line of the article:

    “The House Judiciary Committee just voted to make it impossible for a state to always keep people convicted of violent offenses from carrying concealed weapons.”

    Nothing like leading off with a lie, a half-truth, and a false premise all in the same sentence, for setting the tone of the article.

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  3. Is it just me or does her picture look like the Emperor from Star Wars just before he shoots electricity from his fingers?

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  4. The title should probably be ‘NY Times Inadvertently Acknowledges…’ Read like you’d expect from a NYT opinion piece. Obviously written by someone who’s never actually touched a real gun before.

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  5. “We are having this conversation two weeks after Wisconsin eliminated the age limit for hunting licenses. So far there are 1,800 happy Wisconsinites under the age of 10 with the right to put their little fingers on the trigger, several less than a year old.”

    Is her point that any parent in the country is going to let their 1-year go (crawl?) off hunting and handle a firearm under anything but safe conditions? Clearly she is having paranoid delusions.

    FTR, in VA, we have the legacy license which you can buy for your kid before they turn 2.

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  6. Rather than get worked up in a lather over some rich family’s drama, I file it under “it’s nothing to me” and forget about it. Lighten up, Francis(es). There are more important things to get this bent out of shape over than the ongoing royal soap opera.

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  7. According to “government” at all levels, none of us have any actual “rights” today. They may hand out an occasional privilege to some, but that can be taken back at the whim of any government employee. And that, increasingly, includes the privilege of being allowed to live.

    Why do so many people believe that such non-voluntary government has any legitimate authority to control the lives and property of others?

    Who owns your life and body? YOU do. Claim it and live it.

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  8. Selling the M16’s would require an act of Congress as the weapons are not transferable even though they were manufactured prior to 1986. The US military is exempt from registering NFA weapons. The best you could realistically expect is the sale of parts kits. Although the idea of ODCMP refurbishing the parts kits and assembling them on a semi lower could be interesting.

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  9. There’s absolutely no such thing as gun rights in the state of Hawaii I don’t even call that a state it’s an island in the Pacific Ocean that’s all it is. The Constitution doesn’t quite make it down that far. 4 years they’ve denied concealed weapons permits and only to grant them to retired police officers and rich white elitist. That entire island chain is a freaking hack.

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  10. Quit giving kudos to Whoopi. She hates you and your gun rights. She wants the gubmint in your business “I’ve got nothing to hide”…except all those drugs. Hand in your (valuable!) prop gun you dumbazz Brit. Pathetic fool…

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  11. Don’t get too hopeful yet. While things are looking good at the present time for the National Reciprocity Bill to pass in the Congress and get signed into law, that won’t be the end of it. The crybaby won’t-issue states (and in California probably some of their Marxist cities, such as Los Angeles and San Francisco) will probably file lawsuits against the NR law, hoping that liberal/progressive federal judges will void it as a violation of states rights, and the whole issue will then be entangled until it gets to higher courts, possibly even the SCOTUS. So even if the NR law passes and goes into effect, that is no guarantee that it will continue operating as we might wish.

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  12. That’s good. Manufacturers are getting a product out that people can buy in these slave states. I’m not from Maryland California or New Jersey or New York I’m from Florida. What exactly does a heavy barrel profile do to make in a rifle or carbine more lethal??? Maybe someone can answer this for me what other Hoops do they make you jump through besides a heavy barrel profile? That just sounds totally insane to me, but then again I’m a law-abiding gun owner and just a civilian not one of these highly educated political Representatives. LOL

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  13. The rifles are nice, but, with MD’s piss-ant size, why can’t FNA sell us a 2A compliant Maryland?

    IF
    Civil war starts in . . .

    oh, I don’t know. As soon as (D) blower Mueller pops his bs on Flynn. MD is gonna be a sh_t sponge.

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  14. “I hope that other manufacturers follow suit and build attractive rifles of this quality, so that we see more female hunters in the field this der season.” Because if my rifle isn’t attractive enough I am not going deer hunting this year! 😁

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  15. I think few people realize that as long as 40 years ago an inventory conducted on the 1911’s showed a large majority of them had cracked frames. Also the slides on WWII 1911 were extremely soft. We found this out in the 1950’s when these guns were cheap as a song and when they were accurized the soft slides went south very quickly. I sometimes wonder how the 1911 WWII guns ever met the government specs for a 20,000 round service life. Accuracy was terrible and trigger pulls atrocious. Sights were so small even an 18 year old could not see them. I guess during WWII they made exceptions to all the rules on weapons just as they did in WWI when the 1917 Enfields were deliberately made with defective receiver’s after the company inspector caught the bad lot of steel but the Govt. inspector said to hell with it ship them anyway we have quota’s to make and of course some blew up and hurt people. NOTE: BEFORE YOU SHOOT OFF YOUR BIG MOUTHS I AM SPEAKING OF THE 1917 GUNS NOT THE 1903’S THAT ALSO BLEW UP. SEE THE BOOK “THE 1917 ENFIELD BY MR. FERRIS” AVAILBLE THROUGH THE NRA. Its interesting to note that the 1917 Enfield was such a piece of shit that it was for the most of its production life not made from blue prints but from drawings and all the manufacturing changes resulted in new parts not fitting older weapons. AS A MATTER OF FACT THE GUN HAD SUCH TERRIBLE WORKMANSHIP THAT WHEN MR. FERRIS LOOKED UP FROM HIS DESK AT 11 ENFIELDS SITTING HORIZONTIALLY IN HIS GUN RACK HE ALMOST FAINTED WHEN HE REALIZED NOT ONE GUN WAS THE SAME OVERALL LENGTH. THIS IS WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT THE 1917 RIFLE REALLY WAS.

    I look for these worn out 1911 guns to start at $1,000 dollars and of course double and triple that for rarer models. Remember you will be getting a collector gun so do not butcher one or try and make it not something other than what is should remain and that is a rare and valuables piece of history not some gun Jethero Bodine will declare his “project gun” that he will take a hack saw to so he can create a Franken Monster out of it worth little more than the scrap value of its metal. But never mind this is all way over Jethro’s head who loves to screw himself financially 3 ways. One he cuts the value of the just purchased gun in half by butchering it. Two he destroys all future rise in the collector value because he now has a piece of scrap iron and 3. All the money spent butchering it is down the drain as well. Brilliant! Even a monkey in a zoo is more educated.

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  16. I really appreciate an honest review as in depth as yours. I actually own this gun and couldn’t wait for it to arrive. I 100% agree with your accuracy comments at first I thought it was me but bench rest shooting it had the same results low and with a flyer. The bump when inserting the magazine is present on my Gun as well. The biggest issue I have is failure to feed. Within the fist 150 rounds I had 75 failures to feed. Hudson said it was the ammo. Men NATO. Hudson Told me to try Winchester white box or federal. The problem has persisted not as bad. I’m at 1250 rounds and my last trip to the range I am at a loss. No idea what happened and I will try to discribe. I loaded a magazine with only 10 rounds fired about 7 and ejected the case and failed to grab the next round. The slide stopped out of battery in the same location it stops when it’s failing to feed. I ejected the magazine and checked the gun. It was clear and from obstructions. The slide however was completely seized. I could not free it . I took it home and sprayed it with lubricant and just tried to wiggle it back and fourth. Finally getting it free. I took it apart found nothing wrong . I have tried to contact Hudson but no luck. Any thoughts?

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  17. Fair enough. He came out immediately after it happened, stated what he did say, and what was a flat out lie. That is more than could be said for rock river arms and Springfield armory. We are not his target market and his sales probably wouldn’t seen much of an impact so it is admiral that he made sure his comments were corrected. I don’t own any of his products and probably never will because of priorities but I would not be opposed at this point

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  18. Unreadable?

    Bah!

    I have purchased and read every edition, including the seminal 1997 Lott/Mustard paper in the Journal of Legal studies and my autographed 3rd edition of More Guns, Less Crime.

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  19. Underneath the original article in the newspaper, an American gun owner said that the problem is evil, not guns. We need evil control.

    I replied:

    “However, there is no such thing as evil.

    All of the cells in the body have a computer program encoded in the DNA. The mechanics of each cell takes the code, the position in the body, and the state of things, and then does something.

    The brain is made out of cells, and these cells work in the same way. The brain instructs the finger to pull the trigger. So the killing is a direct result of the DNA.

    The choice is clear. An ineffective potpourri of good/evil, thoughts, prayers on the one hand. On the other, an investigation of the person’s DNA, via a mouth swab.

    Your call. “

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  20. Over the years I’ve heard of several accidental shootings blamed on the dog, including at least one fatality. We need to bring this to 2asux/sam i am’s attention so he can get right on campaigning for a mandatory gun safety class for all hunting dogs.

    Hunting is in our genes and blood. Metro males may be able to stifle the urge, but it’s there. And if you deny your true nature long enough it leads to mental health issues.

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  21. Bedrock of American Justice system, “Innocent until proven guilty”. Accusations are just that facts are what makes the truth, “It’s not what you know(how many people know stuff that isn’t true!!) it’s what you can prove! Let him run, let whoever wants to support him do so until such time as there is actual evidence of a crime.

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    • Due process. Roy Moore knows what it means. Gloria ALL-Red knows what it means. Which of the two actually care so long as ignoring it promotes their political agenda?

      “…the multiple, detailed allegations of child molestation leveled against Moore…”

      It makes absolutely ZERO difference how detailed the allegations are if you cannot provide a SHRED of credible evidence that the alleged incident actually occurred!

      And a year-book entry? Proof of child molestation? Even if the entry were legitimate, which seems extremely unlikely since they are not willing to allow a third party handwriting analysis, a note in a yearbook is not molestation unless it is blatantly suggesting a time, place and details of the hoped for meeting. Which even a classmate of the accuser would have to be a damn fool to write AND sign his name to.

      This is an ad hominem witch hunt from the start by political opponents who have no other way to defeat Moore than to destroy his character and reputation by innuendo.

      “A man’s reputation is like a china plate – once cracked it is NEVER successfully mended.” – Benjamin Frnaklin

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