New York State’s New Gun Laws – The Bullet Points

New York has passed the most restrictive gun laws in the history of the United States, ever. Per NBCNews, the law provides for the following:

  • Police would create a registry of assault weapons. Those New Yorkers who already own such weapons would be required to register their guns with the state. Current state law defines assault weapons as having two “military rifle” features, but the legislation reduces that specification to just one feature and makes the unsafe storage of assault weapons a misdemeanor.
  • Private sales of assault weapons to people outside the immediate family circle would be subject to a background check and online sales of assault weapons would be banned.
  • Magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10. Current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. If an owner is found to have eight or more bullets in a magazine, she could face a misdemeanor charge.
  • Ammunition dealers are required to do background checks, similar to those for gun buyers, and those sales and amounts must be reported to the state.
  • The proposed measure would require that stolen guns be reported within 24 hours.
  • The measure would also enshrine a system through which mental health professionals would be required to report to officials when they believe their patients may harm themselves or others. In such cases, police would be allowed to confiscate any guns owned by a potentially dangerous patient.


  1. avatar stateisevil says:

    Sieg Heil!

    1. avatar Cameron S. says:

      +1. NY is now a police state. *or, more of one*

      1. avatar Evan says:

        This just in, Stop and Frisk policies will be extended to include drug and weapon searches in homes. It is a bill that is passed for the children.

  2. avatar DrVino says:


    Third point: what about mag limiters?

    Last point: No all that draconian. There is legal precedent for reporting individuals who express to their mental health professionals such intent.
    What I want to know is if there is an appeals process and a remediation process and a way to recover guns if reporting found to be erroneous?

    1. avatar Randy Drescher says:

      Yes, we won’t even mention malpractice & civil rights lawsuits, Randy

      1. avatar One If By Land says:

        Law specifically protects doctors and therapists from lawsuits, if they report the person in good faith…

        1. avatar grumpyKoz says:

          If they don’t report a suspected candidate, and that candidate shoots someone, they are held responsible.
          I believe we will see a lot of doctors dropping out.

    2. avatar mchad says:

      +1 you are absolutely correct, I a health care provider and you are darn right I am notifying authorities/putting a legal hold on someone who is a danger to themselves or others. I.E. Suicidal/homicidal Ideation with specific plan

      1. avatar elby says:

        You cannot know this for certain in any case. You should also, as a self professed health care worker, know that women rarely use a gun to kill themselves preferring pills or wrist slitting as their means to an end.

  3. avatar Alex G. says:

    Those laws are insanely tight. The only reason the magazine restriction is 7 rounds is because the only handguns that would work for is revolvers and concealed carry handguns.

    1. avatar Evan says:

      Or 1911s which I prefer because it’s what I train with, but life’s about choices and 7 rounds doesn’t allow for many.

      1. avatar One If By Land says:

        As written…10 round magazines are legal, but we can only load them with 7 rounds…..WTF kind of country (state) do we live in?

        1. avatar Stinkeye says:

          That is straight-up insanity. If it’s okay to have a 10-round magazine but only put 7 cartridges in it, then why isn’t it also okay to have a 20 or 30 round mag and only put 7 in it?

          Pure idiocy. How do these people manage to get out of bed without hurting themselves?

        2. avatar deerdropper says:

          why would any body need 10,20,30,40,and so on.its insane i own many guns hunting rifles assault rifles and i dont see a problem with this law.if your not doing any thing you have nothing to worry about.

      2. avatar Mikeb302000 says:

        I agree the seven-round limitation is foolish. The rest I like.

        1. avatar Chas says:

          Explain how any of these new regulations would have prevented the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

        2. avatar mikeb302000 says:

          You can’t work backwards like that from an event that really happened and say what would have prevented it. But, if Lanza’s mommy wasn’t an irresponsible gun owner, like many of you guys, the whole thing might have been avoided. Some of New York’s new laws might have impacted upon her behavior. Certainly they will have that effect on others in the future.

    2. avatar Bob says:

      Tiny concealed handguns, that is…

  4. avatar Canadian says:

    Wow… this is the same as Canada except we can have 3 more rounds… woo hoo 🙁 … in our magazines but we have to jump through hoops to transfer any registered firearm to anybody.

  5. avatar CZJay says:

    And so it begins — the fall of America… HOLD on, I think a SWAT team is knocking…

    1. avatar Dracon1201 says:

      Well, at least they’re knocking.

      1. avatar David W. says:

        Yeah, knocking isn’t really a SWAT thing… Have they shot your dog yet? That’s how they say hello.

      2. avatar Rambeast says:

        If they’re knocking, it’s not SWAT.

        1. avatar mongo says:

          i bet it didnt take the swat team 20 minutes to arrive…like i hear it did for the poor souls at the school.

      3. avatar Bob says:

        They don’t knock. It’s called a “no-knock” raid. Google it, Wikipedia has a page on it. You won’t know if it’s a street criminal or a swat team breaking into your house because they got the wrong address (“wrong-door” raid, google that too).

        So if you think it’s a home invasion and you’re ready to shoot, you just might be shot dead by the government.

  6. avatar sean K says:

    is there any way to repeal this

    1. avatar Armchair Command'oh says:

      Yeah. Vote for new representatives.

  7. avatar NotAFanBoy says:

    Citizens of New York State, may I take a moment of your time to introduce you to your new, legal, favorite home defense pistol: the 8 round, .357 Magnum Smith & Wesson R8 Revolver. It holds one more round than any legal magazine-based semi-automatic that you can own.

    No, mine is not for sale.

    1. avatar Phydeaux says:

      $1,200 bucks, 2 1/4 pounds, 10.5 inches long. Definitely not for concealed carry.

      1. avatar TX says:

        Yup, you’re right. Home defense only with that size and weight. For concealed carry, there are lots of small ~9mm semi-autos and revolvers with <=7 rounds in the tank.

        Don't worry about being outgunned — the new laws apply to the bad guys just as well as they apply to you. /sarcasm off

      2. avatar Armchair Command'oh says:

        That won’t be a problem in NY.

      3. avatar AlphaGeek says:

        That’s what she said.

      4. avatar Kelly in GA says:

        Who gets to CC in NYS anyway?

    2. avatar Randy Drescher says:

      Don’t even need 8 rounds of 357mag. It is still a force to be reconned with after 2 pressure downgradings. Lets see what the first no limit gangbanger looks like after being hit with a Federal C357B or its ilk, Randy

    3. avatar Bob says:

      Yep, that’s what New Yorker’s are left with against the full capacity Glocks and AR’s the criminals will have. The new laws don’t apply to them.

  8. avatar Roll says:

    New York is no longer a state- its a concentration camp.

    1. avatar William says:

      No lie – will those who vote with their feet – er, tires – face confiscation at the borders? WOULD YOU PUT IT PAST THEM?

    2. avatar pat says:

      And ironically enough, its these weird secular humanistic, anti-American, atheist jews who are helping to do it. If you are a freedom loving, God fearing Jew or Christian, you are a future gas sniffing (Zyklon-B) piece of furniture in this suicidal, self loathing police state.

  9. avatar Joe says:

    I’m sure every criminal in New York State is trying to adapt to the new laws.

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      Yes they are! They’re setting up gun buy back programs as we speak.

      1. avatar William says:

        Which exposes the lies about their supposed “budget woes”, doesn’t it?

        There’s two sets of books, folks.

        1. avatar Patrick says:

          Scooby Doo , Good for you ! I had the same idea. Besides does NYS REALLY REALLY know what you have ? Bite me Cuomo

    2. avatar Scooby Doo says:

      I Live in NY, and let me tell ya, It feels great to know that this new law is finally going to put an end to all of the crime here. Being limited to 7 rounds in my Glock isn’t that bad I guess. I might even load up 7 rounds, and keep an eighth in the chamber, just to stick it to that asshole cuomo. The law applies to magazine capacity, not the weapons total capacity.

  10. avatar Jackie O says:

    1)How the fvck are they going to process ammo purchase background checks ? 2)And what about internet purchase ?
    3) Would anyone like to buy my house here in lovely NYS ?

    1. avatar Randy Drescher says:

      Only if bloomberg signs it, Randy

    2. avatar One If By Land says:

      Internet purchases of ammunition are now illegal in NY

      1. avatar One If By Land says:

        Correction….Internet sales have to go through an FFL, so you can have a background check….good thing I took delivery of a rather large shipment at 9:00 this morning….

    3. avatar elby says:

      Actually, you couldn’t give me your home as long as it’s located in N.Y.

  11. avatar Big Jack says:

    Bet lots of guns just got “stolen” or “lost”!! 😉

  12. avatar إبليس says:

    I await Remington’s response.

    1. avatar Aharon says:

      Probably none for now since the Freedom Group is selling off the companies they own.

    2. avatar schizuki says:

      Remington makes one pistol – a 1911. It holds seven rounds. I’m sure that’s a coincidence.

  13. avatar Big Jack says:

    Bet lots of guns just got “stolen” or “lost”! 😉

  14. avatar htom says:

    8 * 1.25″ (shortest shotgun shell I’ve heard of) = 10″; any shotgun that has a magazine that will hold 4 2.5″ shells has to go.

    Revolvers with 8 or more rounds, go away.

  15. avatar Big Jack says:

    Bet lots of guns just got “stolen” or “lost”! Ha

  16. avatar Big Jack says:

    Bet lots of guns just got “stolen” or “lost”!

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      The SWAT team will come and check for you, just in case you misplaced them.

      1. avatar In Memphis says:

        Hopefully they also have a dive team

        1. avatar Mr. Lighter says:

          My local sheriff’s department does, actually.

          Now, I just want to know what their dive team was doing in my suburb.

  17. avatar Dracon1201 says:

    Big Jack!! Shttaaaapppp!!!! Even if it says failed to post don’t touch it !!

  18. avatar Aharon says:

    The mental health reporting is a catch-22 in several ways. People that seriously pose a threat probably should be reported and yet not reporting clients could possibly expose the therapist to law suits and loss of license should a client harm people who was not reported. Some therapists, out of concern or because they hate guns, will over-react and report clients who are not a threat taking away their liberties. Another issue is that some gun owners will probably now stop seeing their therapists and other gun owners who need help will be afraid to get it. This could be ugly.

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      What it does besides that is it stifles speech! If you say anything that can be considered dangerous to anyone, even criminals, you will be labeled as unfit to own guns. This would include political speech. Robert Farago would be on that list easily because of his posts.

  19. avatar Andrew says:

    A factory standard Ruger 10/22 now has an illegal magazine.

  20. avatar Phydeaux says:

    What’s missing here are the implementation time frames. All the increased background checks will be expensive and take a while to staff up.

    The resulting legal challenges will also be interesting, especially should any of the new law(s) result in defacto bans.

    Any guesses on the degree of civil disobedience that will result? Will psychologists and psychiatrists participate in the civil disobedience too? And will the state try to hide the degree of civil disobedience?

    1. avatar William says:

      The shrinky-dinks will get a free pass, I bet – long as they turn in their clients. Patients. Whatever.

    2. avatar A Reasonable Man says:

      Considering the Supreme Court ruled with a “Common Use” statement, I am hoping that a lawsuit will eventually make its way up the federal chain, and in 6 years we’ll have part of the law overturned….

  21. avatar Silver says:

    I’d just get depressed hoping that NYers would actually resist this. They won’t. And so tyranny continues unchecked.

    Anyone who complies with this is a slave unworthy of pity or consideration.

  22. avatar TV says:

    We can only hope that at some point SCOTUS will rule arbitrary limitation of magazine capacity unconstitutional. It is clear now that when they say “10 rounds” they mean “10 rounds now, 0 rounds later”.

  23. avatar Aharon says:

    Hey guys, there is a swarm of black helicopter gunships circling my block.

    1. avatar William says:

      Must be cloudy where you are. In sunlight, you can see they’re a very dark, flat green.

      1. avatar Aharon says:

        Of course it’s cloudy where I am, I live in Portland.

  24. avatar Daniel Silverman says:

    Our friends over at guns across America are pretty shocked at the moment. That bill went through with not even a fight. They will be making their displeasure known for sure. My understanding was the GOP rolled like $10 Wh0res.

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      Republicans are the same as Democrats they just have a different accent.

    2. avatar Mike in NC says:

      New York learned from the recent attempt in Illinois and used a special procedure to rush this through the only chamber that could have stopped it. I understand that normally the bill would have to ripen for three days.

      1. avatar AaronW says:

        Ripened now, stinks forever.

    3. avatar Ropingdown says:

      That bill went through without the State Senators even having a chance to read it. This is representative government? Aside, the magazine restriction to 7 rounds seems unlikely to pass the common use test or the Miller test. Indeed, when the state has thousands and thousands of full auto items, but The People are restricted to 7+1 rounds in semi-auto, two major purposes of the 2nd Amendment are nullified by the law. I don’t expect most of the provisions to stand.

  25. avatar OkieRim says:

    Gov. Cuomo,
    I really like your ideas on investments, where can I sign up for your newsletter?

  26. avatar Canadian says:


    Be warned neighbours to the south. That is what happened up here in Canada.

    They said they just wanted to know who we were and what we had. Once they had all that info they made the some firearms PROHIBITED. And unfortunately they knew where they all were thanks to registration.

    The latest grab was a 22lr that looked like an AK. We either had to bring them in to be destroyed or suffer the consequences of the RCMP knowing we were in the possession of a now prohibited firearm. I’m too pretty to go to jail so…. 🙁

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      If you look at all the bills they will pass they all say that guns will be confiscated. It just differs as to when. Some states will do it as soon as the SWAT teams clock in and the others will do it when it comes time to pass them on when you die or become labeled as unfit to own guns.

  27. avatar Bruce says:

    When you buy ammo, buy it a box at a time. If you want 500 rounds, the state will have to process it 10 times.

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      You would end up paying the fees for the checks.

      1. avatar OkieRim says:

        And each transaction will satisfy their lust for tax dollars with that extra special ammo excise tax that cuomo never told you about……

  28. avatar Hal says:

    Lever actions and revolvers are going to be making a big comeback! Someone call Henry Repeating Arms Co and give them the “good” news!

    Also, does anyone else here think that 7 rounds was written into the law to suck Kimber’s c0ck so that they would stay in NY?

    I would invite Kimber to TX… but STI would probably stop them at the border. All arms companies should abandon NY and take their taxes and jobs elsewhere!

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      On no way would a politician do such a slimy thing! They are our guarding angels.

    2. avatar Mark N. says:

      I don’t know.. I bought a McCormack mag for my kimber that holds 8…I’d say I’m happy that I live in California and not NY, but this too shall come to pass once our legislators hear about it.

    3. avatar Bill F says:

      It’s not all good for Henry. They’ll have to make new mags for their survival guns. The current mags hold 8 rounds. 8 rounds of .22lr is clearly too much firepower for a citizen to be trusted with in NY. Glad I got mine for Christmas.

  29. avatar Nick says:

    Well. Is .50AE practical now…

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      Isn’t .50 caliber guns banned already in NY?

      How about people stop running away from these “laws” by just buying something that can be defined as “loophole” by these politicians?

      Look at California and open/concealed carry. You cannot carry in that state because they removed the “loopholes” that were being used.

      1. avatar Hal says:

        I don’t think so. Anthony Cumia has one and he lives on Long Island.

      2. avatar A Reasonable Man says:

        Remember the Open Carry “loophole” was the only thing that saved their restrictive “may issue” conceal carry status in court. Since they’ve recently banned Open Carry….if it heads to the same court, it should be toast if they follow their previous logic and ruling.

    1. avatar Ing says:

      Good thing I don’t live in NY. I have a whole f-ing drawer full of those things in my desk at work. Dozens of high-capacity clips, just waiting to assault some poor collection of papers…

    2. avatar Ducky says:

      Nobody NEEDS 24 binder clips. We’ll limit them while keeping them available for police and legitimate office workers.

  30. avatar Evan says:

    Any word of remmington leaving over this?

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      I think they got an exception.

  31. avatar Guy Fredd says:

    Dear Lord Cuomo,

    Please tell this humble, law abiding subject of New York State how your draconian bullshite will affect CRIMINALS in NY?

    1. avatar AaronW says:

      And while you’re at it, Gov Cuomo, please tell me why our neighbor next door (Vermont) is so safe, even as it nearly lacks gun control?

      1. avatar Matt says:

        Shhh…they have barely caught on to us here. Bennnington and Rutland VT would gladly open their doors. Unfortunately our Chittenden County state senator just proposed basically a copy of Cuomo’s bill. I would keep on eye on Montana and Wyoming. Might be making the move soon.

  32. avatar freeport56 says:

    At a time when Mexican Cartels, US Gangs, and terror organizations move freely throughout our country, our government wants to disarm us. I guess they want all cities to be like Chicago….700+ murders per year!

  33. avatar Jack says:

    Second Amendment Foundation, HELP!

    1. avatar Mike in NC says:

      …Turns on a spotlight aimed at the sky projecting a signal on the clouds…

      … a giant bow tie!

    2. avatar CZJay says:

      Yeah they will sure tell them in their press release. They [aristocrats] sure will listen.

  34. avatar Jeff O. says:

    This is why we can’t give an inch.

    10 round mags…then 7 round mags…then 3…then 1…

  35. avatar full.tang.halo says:

    So .45 ACP and .50 GI handguns and revolvers for our friends in NY!!!

    1. avatar Randy Drescher says:

      The cops cried when they had to turn in their 357mag revolvers many years ago. The departments preached mag capacity as the reason, I suspect taking it easy on the BG as part of it. None of these officers felt outgunned(at least what I heard). I carry my 6″ 357 mag revolver at times. I shoot at the range with standard semi jackets(not my high power carry rounds) & I’m asked what kind of a cannon am I shooting. All is not lost with a good 357mag revolver, Randy

  36. avatar Old Ben turning in grave says:

    One thing they did was bundle in a bill that will make it illegal to post gun owner’s names and contact info, as was done recently in NY. Small consolation. “We are going to cornhole you. Hard. But we won’t write your phone number on the stall under “for a good time call…”

    How can we in other states help? I’d donate more to the NRA, but did they help put of a fight? Surely they will help in the court battles to follow.

  37. avatar ddk1 says:

    I went to RPI in Troy, NY. I used to want to move back there. Not any more. California feels like freeman’s country by comparison.

    1. avatar Old Ben turning in grave says:

      Until you have to register your AR with bullet button with the CA Dept. of Justice. With your thumb prints.

  38. avatar schizuki says:

    Looks like potential mass killers in NY will be limited to M1 Garands, 1911s and shotguns. Well, it’s not like those weapons ever killed anybody.

    1. avatar Mark N. says:

      I think Garands are out–they hold eight rounds and will have to registered, and can’t be sold within NY borders because they are now defined as AWs.

      1. avatar A Reasonable Man says:

        The law stipulates a “magazine”. I do not believe the M1 Garand utilizes a “magazine” in legal vernacular to contain its ammunition. A possible “loophole” if you were

        1. avatar Ern says:

          If yor read it it also states that bayonet stud or lug make it an assault rifle. Many of the M1 have this so it seems that they qualify.

  39. avatar OODAloop says:

    Bet you all a $1 that this doesn’t lower their homicide rate. Anyone want to take that bet?

    1. avatar Old Ben turning in grave says:

      Let them tighten it another notch or two, then sell vacation packages for criminals. “Bag your limit of NY hipsters, or your money back.”

  40. avatar Accur81 says:

    Truly sad.

    1. avatar CZJay says:

      Don’t worry California is planning the same thing.

  41. avatar Rob says:

    Dear New York State Legislators,

    Please let me be the first to thank you from the bottoms of our collective hearts for the great service you have provided to us and those like us.

    Of course, we know and understand that these new laws won’t apply to us, and with a wink and nudge, we shall ignore them, as our victims are willingly disarmed.

    We can now walk the streets, safe in the knowledge that our prey can’t fight back.

    You have made things incredibly easier for all of us. We can now cause mayhem, chaos, and destruction with greater ease. Please rest assured that we will be working hard to return New York city to its former 1970s crime-ridden cesspool that we all know and love.

    We couldn’t have done it without you!

    Kind Regards,

    All of the the criminals of New York State.

  42. avatar DisThunder says:

    I seriously feel like someone just told me an old friend died.

    He was a good guy, even kinda a tough guy, but he was awful with money, and never seemed to miss an opportunity to talk down to people he didn’t agree with.

    I’ll miss ya NY, but let’s face it, your boss was a dick, and we all knew he would put you in the ground eventually.

  43. avatar mongo says:

    wow…since im in illinois i thought i was fvcked,,,but you new yorkers…sure are fvcked!

  44. avatar Rob says:

    With any luck, there will be an injunction of sorts filed by either the Second Amendment Foundation, or the NRA…

    1. avatar Agincourt says:

      I would put my money on the Cato Institute. They actually do things besides raise money and spill hot air. You know, like DC v Heller. The NRA tried to stop them from bringing the case to court. I guess the NRA wanted to wait until the Obama administration stacked the court and then let the Brady Bunch bring it to the Supreme Court.

      The lead from the Cato Institute, a guy name Levy, has never even owned a gun. He just saw that the Bill of Rights was being violated and wanted to correct the injustice.

      Don’t count on the NRA to do anything but raise more money.

  45. avatar Keith says:

    Is it just me, or do the dudes in the photo look like the bunch in the first scene of Fletch Lives? (I know, a classic.)

    Guy on the left: “65 thousand from the numbers operation.”

    Guy in the center: “File it under scrod.”

    Guy on left: “Scrod. You kiddin’?”

    Guy on right, gruffly, menacing: “Scrod’s makin’ a comeback.”

  46. avatar Accur81 says:

    I’ll go out of my way not to spend a single dollar in NY, nor visit that wretched state.

  47. avatar Mike says:

    For the first time I am glad I live in Illinois. We don’t have the worst gun laws now! Thanks New York!

  48. avatar Pascal says:

    Nobody finds the following funny?

    “Current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state.”

    If the point of the ban is to “save the children” or “stop crime” or “save lives” as the progressive asshats in NY seem to believe, then why are they allowing the magazines to be sold out of state? Seems hypocritcal to say your childrens lives are important but the lives of children out of state are not? Oh wait, somebody did the math and it is crazy stupid expensive for the state to purchase the magazines so we will make it someone elses problem…got it!

    And one more thing….how would they know how many magazines you have and be able to enforce the law?

    If these guys can make these gun laws this stupid, just imagine how stupid the other laws the come up with are as well.

    All this, so that Cuomo can make a run at POTUS in 2016 because there is NO reason why they needed to be first or any more restrictive than what they had already had been.

    Ah, false safety of mind of an idiotic and ignorant populace.

  49. avatar jkp says:

    This needs to be addressed by the Courts, and quickly. Time to make another donation to SAF, I suppose.

    It is disturbing to me to see these sorts laws passed, wherein liberties are restricted purely in the name of a culture war. (We can predict that the laws will be ineffective in reducing crimes; this was done not to make people safer, but to actively discourage gun ownership among private citizens.) This is the sort of thing that will, in the long run, cause certain people to move from New York. It might also encourage certain other types of people to move TO New York. And the partisan and geographical divides within our country become sharper. We are almost at the point where people on the opposing sides rarely interact with each other, or even live near each other.

    Nothing is inevitable. But if America splits into different countries 50 years hence, I predict that this will be looked on by future historians as one of the milestones on that road, like the Nullification Crisis or the Fugitive Slave Act.

  50. avatar AlphaGeek says:

    I know everyone is wallowing in sorrow and I-told-you-so right now… But this is such a huge overreach that the court challenges will be epic. This legislation isn’t incremental restriction within the range of contemporary standards, by which I mean 10-round magazines. It moves the bar so aggressively that it is an outright assault on the rights, current and future, of every. single. gun. owner in the US.

    Memo to every NY legislator who “declined to oppose the bill”: your moral and ethical corruption has been exposed to the world. You have two honorable options at this juncture: resignation letter or suicide note. Either way it is time to exit the public stage, as you are not fit for public service.

    1. avatar DisThunder says:

      I tend to agree with your sentiment, and I’m absolutely hoping to hell that you’re right.
      Just in case though, I think we should try to get ahold of Snake Plissken as a backup plan.

      1. avatar jwm says:

        I heard Snake’s dead…

  51. avatar Gov. William J. Le Petomane says:

    Why again would someone intent on committing a felony be dissuaded by the threat of a misdemeanor conviction?

  52. avatar Bob says:

    Hopefully an effective organization like the Cato Institute (not the NRA) will aggressively contest this.

    1. avatar emily says:

      now is the time for all good men to ban together and fight like hell to overturn these laws and any laws criminizing our 2nd amendment in the future.

  53. avatar Gs650g says:

    What, no micro stamping too?
    I’m surprised it wasn’t even worse.

    1. avatar sm424 says:

      Damnit, you took my line. I’m surprised we didn’t get the cherry on top with the micro stamping bill.

  54. avatar BobtheGrape says:

    Gov. Andrew Cuomo, his brother Mario, former Gov. of NY and senator charlie schumer and congressman carolyn mc carthy, yes I said congressman, they can all suck eggs. Hey NY politicians I got your gun ban, right here!

  55. avatar Sad soul says:

    Sadly, I am military and am on ORDERS TO MOVE TO NEW YORK!!! This summer. Do you think a featureless build like the ones done in CA would work? I’m thinking no, but would convert at least one of my rifles if it could. Also, what about the PMAGs in my Army gear box that went to hell and back with me twice, but weren’t issued. I can’t wait to see the court case when a soldier is prosecuted for possessing magazines that he used overseas because they were not being used in pursuance of official duty at the time. What a sh** show this bill is. Passed literally in the dark of night before any New Yorkers could effectively organize.

    1. avatar Rick says:

      I’d bring my stash in during the dark of night, PMAG’s and all, just to make sure I was able to keep my legally purchased paraphernalia. Illegitimi Non Carborundum Army. Stay safe and break the rules and laws as necessary. Remember, we swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
      Rick, Capt US Army, Ret.

    2. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      Take your pmags with you to New York. And then you can be the PERFECT defendant in the court case challenging this law. Even the worst 2nd Amendment decision in history — the Miller case in the 1930s where the defendant didn’t even appear before the court to argue their case — upholds the right of people to bear arms in use in the military. Well your pmags were in use in the military since you used them in battle!

      1. avatar Sad soul says:

        Wow, that sounds fun… I will bring them with me, and although I wouldnt enjoy it I would fight it in court, although I suspect the DA would be instructed to look the other way because they know how that case would pan out. Just the headline would scare a sensible DA “Army Captain, two Bronze Stars, Combat Action Badge, charged with felony possession of several high capacity magazines, the same gear he used in the course of his duties in Iraq, kept in his army duffle.” Although I suppose the would have to search my home or car to find them in violation of several other civil rights, which would only exacerbate the situation.

  56. avatar Matt says:

    If Ralph is around, how do these laws affect ground shipping through the state of NY to still semi-normal New England states like VT, NH and ME?

  57. avatar Joe Sixpack says:

    The old man used to be a cop back in the day and he drilled into my head at a very early age to never, ever register a firearm. Never. Under no circumstances. Registration leads to confiscation.

  58. avatar Tony says:

    I wonder if Cuomo and Bloomberg’s guards are going to limited to 7 round mags…

  59. avatar Aaron says:

    When will firearm manufacturers grow a pair of balls and not only leave these states that pass these asinine laws but refuse to sell their agencies firearms?

    1. avatar racer88 says:

      That thought occurred to me. Are the manufacturers going to retool their lines just for the limited NY market? If I was a firearms manufacturer, I’d tell NY that we will no longer sell our products to civilians OR law enforcement. We’re out! Good luck! Make your own neutered guns, mags, and ammo.

  60. avatar Jon says:

    Wow. I am currently in Canada for training. I knew these liberal jerks and mindess so call republicans would do this. Even so, in OUR country this is happening now. What happened to the days of Ronald Regan and all the GREAT things he did for our country?

    I am proud to have a rich history in NY in regards to my family and ancestors. This is a direct assault on all my family and ancestors who served this once great nation and for WHAT, COMMUNISM? GOVERNMENT CONTROL?

    These elected scum are wiping their fat @SSES with our Constitution, makes me sick to my stomach. ENOUGH!! JOIN THE NRA, be civil but WRITE these bums and tell them how you feel. GO TO RALLIES AND SHOUT OUT YOUR FUSTRATION with this GARBAGE. I will be flying my flag UPSIDE DOWN when I get back to the great imperial state of NY.

  61. avatar guzzimike says:

    To me the ammo through FFL/background check thing is so screwy. How do they prove/disprove the ammo one might have had pre/post enactment? As someone else added, same w/mags? And are they suspending 4A rights & demanding access any time 24/7?

    1. avatar Bob says:

      They don’t care if the mags were per-ban. You have one year to sell them out of state. I’m glad I no longer live in NY

  62. avatar Jon says:

    I am confused about one aspect of this new Nazi law. So if we have high capacity clips are breaking the law now??? Then I read we have a year to sell them out of state.
    SO WHICH IS IT and HOW ARE THEY GOING TO ENFORCE IT? Aside from taking it to a gun range and/or someone reporting you.

  63. avatar Skeev says:

    So by giving people a year to sell a high cap mag, which is now illegal, out of state; is that person breaking some kind of interstate commerce law about transporting an illegal good over state lines?

    I’ve never been impressed with NY or it’s over stressed feeling of importance, but now more than ever I feel that they can just F the F off.

  64. avatar John Doe says:

    Civil War of 2013, here we come.

  65. avatar JOE MATAFOME says:

    The seven round limit only applies to law abiding citizens, and the bad guys will still use any amount of rounds that makes them happy. The nutbag killers who really need won’t seek help now (they wouldn’t have no matter what silly law was in effect) because they don’t know their nuts or they just don’t care. This no good COMMIE sewer hasn’t really changed and will always be one of the biggest cesspools in the world.

    1. avatar Guido Ragetti says:

      with one in the chamber… to have eight!

  66. avatar Guido Ragetti says:


  67. avatar Jürgen says:

    Down to 7 from 10? Let’s wait a year or two more and then it’ll be down to 5.

  68. avatar Mister Fleas says:

    The legislation is worse than what you show. The government literally made possessing a firearm, ANY FIREARM, a felony.

    See page 22 of the posted bill, s2230:

    Ҥ 41-a. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 265.01-b to 5 read as follows:
    6 § 265.01-b Criminal possession of a firearm.
    7 A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm when he or she:
    8 (1) possesses any firearm or; (2) lawfully possesses a firearm prior to
    9 the effective date of the chapter of the laws of two thousand thirteen
    10 which added this section subject to the registration requirements of
    11 subdivision sixteen-a of section 400.00 of this chapter and knowingly
    12 fails to register such firearm pursuant to such subdivision.
    13 Criminal possession of a firearm is a class E felony.”

    Did you catch that? “A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm when he or she:
    8 (1) possesses any firearm or;”
    Not the word “and”; it says OR.

  69. avatar Chip says:

    I want to see them prove this receipt I have for a Mr John Smith is for anything other than the lingerie it says it is for.

  70. avatar TRP says:

    Texas or Wyoming is sounding better by the day. Better buy your home there before they are all gone….

  71. avatar David Walck says:

    Just curious, but does anybody think that registration of “assault rifles” and unsafe storage is now a misdomeaner, does that open the door for anytime warrantless searches? Seems to me that if thats the case, this is not only raping the 2nd, but also the 4th. i.e., if you want the “privilege” of owning one of these “death machines” then you are going to give up your 4th amendment rights as well.

  72. avatar Mike Z says:

    I am from NY. I live on LI. I own 2 guns. A S&W MP15-22 and a GSG-5 .22.
    I have 5 10 round magazines for each.

    I am now a criminal.

  73. avatar Brent w says:

    So if a Semi-Automatic shotgun can take a detachable magazine (such as an extender used for snow geese) is this gun now “illegal” because it is self loading, and can take a detachable magazine…which can take more than 7 rounds..

    So many holes in this new legislation for them to just say “yep, thats included too” and boom hunters are criminals…

    Idiotic, stupid, unpatriotic, and just completely WRONG

  74. avatar Zak says:

    If Cuomo wanted to make a change I believe the following would have been fair:
    Mandatory six month wait for a purchase of an ” assault weapon”
    A minimum age to purchase such deemed “evil” weapons (maybe 30?)
    Absolutely a better way to prevent fuktards from purchasing these weapons
    Allowing those with HCM to keep the mags but closing the loopholes in purchasing PMAGS from here on.
    Cuomo is punishing those who are responsible gun owners which by far outnumber the psychos who will still find a way to get their hands on a weapon to carry out their planned assaults !!!
    These clowns usually have an ending to their planned attack and it usually ends with the cowardly act of suicide. What makes Cuomo think new laws would deter that ?

  75. avatar angelo says:

    hi to all. my name is angelo. i live in nyc. and i work for the city for over 30 years. first of all i want to say i like most humans i dont condone the tragedy that has acurred at sandy hook. i as a parent and grandparent was cut to the heart when i heard and saw the news that a responsible nyc gun permit holder for over 25 years i agree with most measures being taken to curb gun violence in america . i currently hold a valid premise license which in nyc enables me to keep my firearms loaded at home for nyc you renew your permit every three years at 340.00 per renewal. on my last renewal over a year ago i was advised of the new 10 rd limit which meant i had to turn in any high cap. magizines. purchase new 10 rd. mags. at a cost of several hundred dollers.i complied .my collection consists of several glocks which most affectionados know come shipped from the glock factory with 10 rd. mags. so here i am sitting at home with a premise license and a bunch of paperweights. did i mention i live in the projects and surrounded by drug dealers and when i encounter a breakin in my home i hope the perp has seven rds. in his clip as i throw my paperweights at him. thanks gov. ill see you at the polls

    1. avatar angelo says:

      just renewed my NRA MEMBERSHIP

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  78. avatar kevin says:

    Corrupt politicians = corrupt police = corrupt NY = time to sell house and leave ny. NY sucks

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