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New York has passed the most restrictive gun laws in the history of the United States, ever. Per NBCNews, the law provides for the following:

  • Police would create a registry of assault weapons. Those New Yorkers who already own such weapons would be required to register their guns with the state. Current state law defines assault weapons as having two “military rifle” features, but the legislation reduces that specification to just one feature and makes the unsafe storage of assault weapons a misdemeanor.
  • Private sales of assault weapons to people outside the immediate family circle would be subject to a background check and online sales of assault weapons would be banned.
  • Magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10. Current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. If an owner is found to have eight or more bullets in a magazine, she could face a misdemeanor charge.
  • Ammunition dealers are required to do background checks, similar to those for gun buyers, and those sales and amounts must be reported to the state.
  • The proposed measure would require that stolen guns be reported within 24 hours.
  • The measure would also enshrine a system through which mental health professionals would be required to report to officials when they believe their patients may harm themselves or others. In such cases, police would be allowed to confiscate any guns owned by a potentially dangerous patient.

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  1. RE:

    Third point: what about mag limiters?

    Last point: No all that draconian. There is legal precedent for reporting individuals who express to their mental health professionals such intent.
    What I want to know is if there is an appeals process and a remediation process and a way to recover guns if reporting found to be erroneous?

        • BUT,
          If they don’t report a suspected candidate, and that candidate shoots someone, they are held responsible.
          I believe we will see a lot of doctors dropping out.

    • +1 you are absolutely correct, I a health care provider and you are darn right I am notifying authorities/putting a legal hold on someone who is a danger to themselves or others. I.E. Suicidal/homicidal Ideation with specific plan

      • You cannot know this for certain in any case. You should also, as a self professed health care worker, know that women rarely use a gun to kill themselves preferring pills or wrist slitting as their means to an end.

  2. Those laws are insanely tight. The only reason the magazine restriction is 7 rounds is because the only handguns that would work for is revolvers and concealed carry handguns.

    • Or 1911s which I prefer because it’s what I train with, but life’s about choices and 7 rounds doesn’t allow for many.

      • As written…10 round magazines are legal, but we can only load them with 7 rounds…..WTF kind of country (state) do we live in?

        • That is straight-up insanity. If it’s okay to have a 10-round magazine but only put 7 cartridges in it, then why isn’t it also okay to have a 20 or 30 round mag and only put 7 in it?

          Pure idiocy. How do these people manage to get out of bed without hurting themselves?

        • why would any body need 10,20,30,40,and so on.its insane i own many guns hunting rifles assault rifles and i dont see a problem with this law.if your not doing any thing you have nothing to worry about.

        • Explain how any of these new regulations would have prevented the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

        • You can’t work backwards like that from an event that really happened and say what would have prevented it. But, if Lanza’s mommy wasn’t an irresponsible gun owner, like many of you guys, the whole thing might have been avoided. Some of New York’s new laws might have impacted upon her behavior. Certainly they will have that effect on others in the future.

  3. Wow… this is the same as Canada except we can have 3 more rounds… woo hoo 🙁 … in our magazines but we have to jump through hoops to transfer any registered firearm to anybody.

        • i bet it didnt take the swat team 20 minutes to arrive…like i hear it did for the poor souls at the school.

      • They don’t knock. It’s called a “no-knock” raid. Google it, Wikipedia has a page on it. You won’t know if it’s a street criminal or a swat team breaking into your house because they got the wrong address (“wrong-door” raid, google that too).

        So if you think it’s a home invasion and you’re ready to shoot, you just might be shot dead by the government.

  4. Citizens of New York State, may I take a moment of your time to introduce you to your new, legal, favorite home defense pistol: the 8 round, .357 Magnum Smith & Wesson R8 Revolver. It holds one more round than any legal magazine-based semi-automatic that you can own.

    No, mine is not for sale.

    • No lie – will those who vote with their feet – er, tires – face confiscation at the borders? WOULD YOU PUT IT PAST THEM?

    • And ironically enough, its these weird secular humanistic, anti-American, atheist jews who are helping to do it. If you are a freedom loving, God fearing Jew or Christian, you are a future gas sniffing (Zyklon-B) piece of furniture in this suicidal, self loathing police state.

        • Scooby Doo , Good for you ! I had the same idea. Besides does NYS REALLY REALLY know what you have ? Bite me Cuomo

    • I Live in NY, and let me tell ya, It feels great to know that this new law is finally going to put an end to all of the crime here. Being limited to 7 rounds in my Glock isn’t that bad I guess. I might even load up 7 rounds, and keep an eighth in the chamber, just to stick it to that asshole cuomo. The law applies to magazine capacity, not the weapons total capacity.

  5. 1)How the fvck are they going to process ammo purchase background checks ? 2)And what about internet purchase ?
    3) Would anyone like to buy my house here in lovely NYS ?

  6. 8 * 1.25″ (shortest shotgun shell I’ve heard of) = 10″; any shotgun that has a magazine that will hold 4 2.5″ shells has to go.

    Revolvers with 8 or more rounds, go away.

  7. The mental health reporting is a catch-22 in several ways. People that seriously pose a threat probably should be reported and yet not reporting clients could possibly expose the therapist to law suits and loss of license should a client harm people who was not reported. Some therapists, out of concern or because they hate guns, will over-react and report clients who are not a threat taking away their liberties. Another issue is that some gun owners will probably now stop seeing their therapists and other gun owners who need help will be afraid to get it. This could be ugly.

    • What it does besides that is it stifles speech! If you say anything that can be considered dangerous to anyone, even criminals, you will be labeled as unfit to own guns. This would include political speech. Robert Farago would be on that list easily because of his posts.

  8. What’s missing here are the implementation time frames. All the increased background checks will be expensive and take a while to staff up.

    The resulting legal challenges will also be interesting, especially should any of the new law(s) result in defacto bans.

    Any guesses on the degree of civil disobedience that will result? Will psychologists and psychiatrists participate in the civil disobedience too? And will the state try to hide the degree of civil disobedience?

    • Considering the Supreme Court ruled with a “Common Use” statement, I am hoping that a lawsuit will eventually make its way up the federal chain, and in 6 years we’ll have part of the law overturned….

  9. I’d just get depressed hoping that NYers would actually resist this. They won’t. And so tyranny continues unchecked.

    Anyone who complies with this is a slave unworthy of pity or consideration.

  10. We can only hope that at some point SCOTUS will rule arbitrary limitation of magazine capacity unconstitutional. It is clear now that when they say “10 rounds” they mean “10 rounds now, 0 rounds later”.

  11. Our friends over at guns across America are pretty shocked at the moment. That bill went through with not even a fight. They will be making their displeasure known for sure. My understanding was the GOP rolled like $10 Wh0res.

    • New York learned from the recent attempt in Illinois and used a special procedure to rush this through the only chamber that could have stopped it. I understand that normally the bill would have to ripen for three days.

    • That bill went through without the State Senators even having a chance to read it. This is representative government? Aside, the magazine restriction to 7 rounds seems unlikely to pass the common use test or the Miller test. Indeed, when the state has thousands and thousands of full auto items, but The People are restricted to 7+1 rounds in semi-auto, two major purposes of the 2nd Amendment are nullified by the law. I don’t expect most of the provisions to stand.


    Be warned neighbours to the south. That is what happened up here in Canada.

    They said they just wanted to know who we were and what we had. Once they had all that info they made the some firearms PROHIBITED. And unfortunately they knew where they all were thanks to registration.

    The latest grab was a 22lr that looked like an AK. We either had to bring them in to be destroyed or suffer the consequences of the RCMP knowing we were in the possession of a now prohibited firearm. I’m too pretty to go to jail so…. 🙁

    • If you look at all the bills they will pass they all say that guns will be confiscated. It just differs as to when. Some states will do it as soon as the SWAT teams clock in and the others will do it when it comes time to pass them on when you die or become labeled as unfit to own guns.

  13. Lever actions and revolvers are going to be making a big comeback! Someone call Henry Repeating Arms Co and give them the “good” news!

    Also, does anyone else here think that 7 rounds was written into the law to suck Kimber’s c0ck so that they would stay in NY?

    I would invite Kimber to TX… but STI would probably stop them at the border. All arms companies should abandon NY and take their taxes and jobs elsewhere!

    • I don’t know.. I bought a McCormack mag for my kimber that holds 8…I’d say I’m happy that I live in California and not NY, but this too shall come to pass once our legislators hear about it.

    • It’s not all good for Henry. They’ll have to make new mags for their survival guns. The current mags hold 8 rounds. 8 rounds of .22lr is clearly too much firepower for a citizen to be trusted with in NY. Glad I got mine for Christmas.

    • Isn’t .50 caliber guns banned already in NY?

      How about people stop running away from these “laws” by just buying something that can be defined as “loophole” by these politicians?

      Look at California and open/concealed carry. You cannot carry in that state because they removed the “loopholes” that were being used.

      • Remember the Open Carry “loophole” was the only thing that saved their restrictive “may issue” conceal carry status in court. Since they’ve recently banned Open Carry….if it heads to the same court, it should be toast if they follow their previous logic and ruling.

    • Good thing I don’t live in NY. I have a whole f-ing drawer full of those things in my desk at work. Dozens of high-capacity clips, just waiting to assault some poor collection of papers…

  14. Dear Lord Cuomo,

    Please tell this humble, law abiding subject of New York State how your draconian bullshite will affect CRIMINALS in NY?

      • Shhh…they have barely caught on to us here. Bennnington and Rutland VT would gladly open their doors. Unfortunately our Chittenden County state senator just proposed basically a copy of Cuomo’s bill. I would keep on eye on Montana and Wyoming. Might be making the move soon.

  15. At a time when Mexican Cartels, US Gangs, and terror organizations move freely throughout our country, our government wants to disarm us. I guess they want all cities to be like Chicago….700+ murders per year!

    • The cops cried when they had to turn in their 357mag revolvers many years ago. The departments preached mag capacity as the reason, I suspect taking it easy on the BG as part of it. None of these officers felt outgunned(at least what I heard). I carry my 6″ 357 mag revolver at times. I shoot at the range with standard semi jackets(not my high power carry rounds) & I’m asked what kind of a cannon am I shooting. All is not lost with a good 357mag revolver, Randy

  16. One thing they did was bundle in a bill that will make it illegal to post gun owner’s names and contact info, as was done recently in NY. Small consolation. “We are going to cornhole you. Hard. But we won’t write your phone number on the stall under “for a good time call…”

    How can we in other states help? I’d donate more to the NRA, but did they help put of a fight? Surely they will help in the court battles to follow.

  17. I went to RPI in Troy, NY. I used to want to move back there. Not any more. California feels like freeman’s country by comparison.

    • Until you have to register your AR with bullet button with the CA Dept. of Justice. With your thumb prints.

  18. Looks like potential mass killers in NY will be limited to M1 Garands, 1911s and shotguns. Well, it’s not like those weapons ever killed anybody.

    • I think Garands are out–they hold eight rounds and will have to registered, and can’t be sold within NY borders because they are now defined as AWs.

      • The law stipulates a “magazine”. I do not believe the M1 Garand utilizes a “magazine” in legal vernacular to contain its ammunition. A possible “loophole” if you were

        • If yor read it it also states that bayonet stud or lug make it an assault rifle. Many of the M1 have this so it seems that they qualify.

    • Let them tighten it another notch or two, then sell vacation packages for criminals. “Bag your limit of NY hipsters, or your money back.”

  19. Dear New York State Legislators,

    Please let me be the first to thank you from the bottoms of our collective hearts for the great service you have provided to us and those like us.

    Of course, we know and understand that these new laws won’t apply to us, and with a wink and nudge, we shall ignore them, as our victims are willingly disarmed.

    We can now walk the streets, safe in the knowledge that our prey can’t fight back.

    You have made things incredibly easier for all of us. We can now cause mayhem, chaos, and destruction with greater ease. Please rest assured that we will be working hard to return New York city to its former 1970s crime-ridden cesspool that we all know and love.

    We couldn’t have done it without you!

    Kind Regards,

    All of the the criminals of New York State.

  20. I seriously feel like someone just told me an old friend died.

    He was a good guy, even kinda a tough guy, but he was awful with money, and never seemed to miss an opportunity to talk down to people he didn’t agree with.

    I’ll miss ya NY, but let’s face it, your boss was a dick, and we all knew he would put you in the ground eventually.

    • I would put my money on the Cato Institute. They actually do things besides raise money and spill hot air. You know, like DC v Heller. The NRA tried to stop them from bringing the case to court. I guess the NRA wanted to wait until the Obama administration stacked the court and then let the Brady Bunch bring it to the Supreme Court.

      The lead from the Cato Institute, a guy name Levy, has never even owned a gun. He just saw that the Bill of Rights was being violated and wanted to correct the injustice.

      Don’t count on the NRA to do anything but raise more money.

  21. Is it just me, or do the dudes in the photo look like the bunch in the first scene of Fletch Lives? (I know, a classic.)

    Guy on the left: “65 thousand from the numbers operation.”

    Guy in the center: “File it under scrod.”

    Guy on left: “Scrod. You kiddin’?”

    Guy on right, gruffly, menacing: “Scrod’s makin’ a comeback.”

  22. Nobody finds the following funny?

    “Current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state.”

    If the point of the ban is to “save the children” or “stop crime” or “save lives” as the progressive asshats in NY seem to believe, then why are they allowing the magazines to be sold out of state? Seems hypocritcal to say your childrens lives are important but the lives of children out of state are not? Oh wait, somebody did the math and it is crazy stupid expensive for the state to purchase the magazines so we will make it someone elses problem…got it!

    And one more thing….how would they know how many magazines you have and be able to enforce the law?

    If these guys can make these gun laws this stupid, just imagine how stupid the other laws the come up with are as well.

    All this, so that Cuomo can make a run at POTUS in 2016 because there is NO reason why they needed to be first or any more restrictive than what they had already had been.

    Ah, false safety of mind of an idiotic and ignorant populace.

  23. This needs to be addressed by the Courts, and quickly. Time to make another donation to SAF, I suppose.

    It is disturbing to me to see these sorts laws passed, wherein liberties are restricted purely in the name of a culture war. (We can predict that the laws will be ineffective in reducing crimes; this was done not to make people safer, but to actively discourage gun ownership among private citizens.) This is the sort of thing that will, in the long run, cause certain people to move from New York. It might also encourage certain other types of people to move TO New York. And the partisan and geographical divides within our country become sharper. We are almost at the point where people on the opposing sides rarely interact with each other, or even live near each other.

    Nothing is inevitable. But if America splits into different countries 50 years hence, I predict that this will be looked on by future historians as one of the milestones on that road, like the Nullification Crisis or the Fugitive Slave Act.

  24. I know everyone is wallowing in sorrow and I-told-you-so right now… But this is such a huge overreach that the court challenges will be epic. This legislation isn’t incremental restriction within the range of contemporary standards, by which I mean 10-round magazines. It moves the bar so aggressively that it is an outright assault on the rights, current and future, of every. single. gun. owner in the US.

    Memo to every NY legislator who “declined to oppose the bill”: your moral and ethical corruption has been exposed to the world. You have two honorable options at this juncture: resignation letter or suicide note. Either way it is time to exit the public stage, as you are not fit for public service.

  25. Why again would someone intent on committing a felony be dissuaded by the threat of a misdemeanor conviction?

    • now is the time for all good men to ban together and fight like hell to overturn these laws and any laws criminizing our 2nd amendment in the future.

  26. Gov. Andrew Cuomo, his brother Mario, former Gov. of NY and senator charlie schumer and congressman carolyn mc carthy, yes I said congressman, they can all suck eggs. Hey NY politicians I got your gun ban, right here!

  27. Sadly, I am military and am on ORDERS TO MOVE TO NEW YORK!!! This summer. Do you think a featureless build like the ones done in CA would work? I’m thinking no, but would convert at least one of my rifles if it could. Also, what about the PMAGs in my Army gear box that went to hell and back with me twice, but weren’t issued. I can’t wait to see the court case when a soldier is prosecuted for possessing magazines that he used overseas because they were not being used in pursuance of official duty at the time. What a sh** show this bill is. Passed literally in the dark of night before any New Yorkers could effectively organize.

    • Sad,
      I’d bring my stash in during the dark of night, PMAG’s and all, just to make sure I was able to keep my legally purchased paraphernalia. Illegitimi Non Carborundum Army. Stay safe and break the rules and laws as necessary. Remember, we swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
      Rick, Capt US Army, Ret.

    • Take your pmags with you to New York. And then you can be the PERFECT defendant in the court case challenging this law. Even the worst 2nd Amendment decision in history — the Miller case in the 1930s where the defendant didn’t even appear before the court to argue their case — upholds the right of people to bear arms in use in the military. Well your pmags were in use in the military since you used them in battle!

      • Wow, that sounds fun… I will bring them with me, and although I wouldnt enjoy it I would fight it in court, although I suspect the DA would be instructed to look the other way because they know how that case would pan out. Just the headline would scare a sensible DA “Army Captain, two Bronze Stars, Combat Action Badge, charged with felony possession of several high capacity magazines, the same gear he used in the course of his duties in Iraq, kept in his army duffle.” Although I suppose the would have to search my home or car to find them in violation of several other civil rights, which would only exacerbate the situation.

  28. If Ralph is around, how do these laws affect ground shipping through the state of NY to still semi-normal New England states like VT, NH and ME?

  29. The old man used to be a cop back in the day and he drilled into my head at a very early age to never, ever register a firearm. Never. Under no circumstances. Registration leads to confiscation.

  30. When will firearm manufacturers grow a pair of balls and not only leave these states that pass these asinine laws but refuse to sell their agencies firearms?

    • That thought occurred to me. Are the manufacturers going to retool their lines just for the limited NY market? If I was a firearms manufacturer, I’d tell NY that we will no longer sell our products to civilians OR law enforcement. We’re out! Good luck! Make your own neutered guns, mags, and ammo.

  31. Wow. I am currently in Canada for training. I knew these liberal jerks and mindess so call republicans would do this. Even so, in OUR country this is happening now. What happened to the days of Ronald Regan and all the GREAT things he did for our country?

    I am proud to have a rich history in NY in regards to my family and ancestors. This is a direct assault on all my family and ancestors who served this once great nation and for WHAT, COMMUNISM? GOVERNMENT CONTROL?

    These elected scum are wiping their fat @SSES with our Constitution, makes me sick to my stomach. ENOUGH!! JOIN THE NRA, be civil but WRITE these bums and tell them how you feel. GO TO RALLIES AND SHOUT OUT YOUR FUSTRATION with this GARBAGE. I will be flying my flag UPSIDE DOWN when I get back to the great imperial state of NY.

  32. To me the ammo through FFL/background check thing is so screwy. How do they prove/disprove the ammo one might have had pre/post enactment? As someone else added, same w/mags? And are they suspending 4A rights & demanding access any time 24/7?

    • They don’t care if the mags were per-ban. You have one year to sell them out of state. I’m glad I no longer live in NY

  33. I am confused about one aspect of this new Nazi law. So if we have high capacity clips are breaking the law now??? Then I read we have a year to sell them out of state.
    SO WHICH IS IT and HOW ARE THEY GOING TO ENFORCE IT? Aside from taking it to a gun range and/or someone reporting you.

  34. So by giving people a year to sell a high cap mag, which is now illegal, out of state; is that person breaking some kind of interstate commerce law about transporting an illegal good over state lines?

    I’ve never been impressed with NY or it’s over stressed feeling of importance, but now more than ever I feel that they can just F the F off.

  35. The seven round limit only applies to law abiding citizens, and the bad guys will still use any amount of rounds that makes them happy. The nutbag killers who really need won’t seek help now (they wouldn’t have no matter what silly law was in effect) because they don’t know their nuts or they just don’t care. This no good COMMIE sewer hasn’t really changed and will always be one of the biggest cesspools in the world.

  36. The legislation is worse than what you show. The government literally made possessing a firearm, ANY FIREARM, a felony.

    See page 22 of the posted bill, s2230:

    Ҥ 41-a. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 265.01-b to 5 read as follows:
    6 § 265.01-b Criminal possession of a firearm.
    7 A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm when he or she:
    8 (1) possesses any firearm or; (2) lawfully possesses a firearm prior to
    9 the effective date of the chapter of the laws of two thousand thirteen
    10 which added this section subject to the registration requirements of
    11 subdivision sixteen-a of section 400.00 of this chapter and knowingly
    12 fails to register such firearm pursuant to such subdivision.
    13 Criminal possession of a firearm is a class E felony.”

    Did you catch that? “A person is guilty of criminal possession of a firearm when he or she:
    8 (1) possesses any firearm or;”
    Not the word “and”; it says OR.

  37. I want to see them prove this receipt I have for a Mr John Smith is for anything other than the lingerie it says it is for.

  38. Just curious, but does anybody think that registration of “assault rifles” and unsafe storage is now a misdomeaner, does that open the door for anytime warrantless searches? Seems to me that if thats the case, this is not only raping the 2nd, but also the 4th. i.e., if you want the “privilege” of owning one of these “death machines” then you are going to give up your 4th amendment rights as well.

  39. I am from NY. I live on LI. I own 2 guns. A S&W MP15-22 and a GSG-5 .22.
    I have 5 10 round magazines for each.

    I am now a criminal.

  40. So if a Semi-Automatic shotgun can take a detachable magazine (such as an extender used for snow geese) is this gun now “illegal” because it is self loading, and can take a detachable magazine…which can take more than 7 rounds..

    So many holes in this new legislation for them to just say “yep, thats included too” and boom hunters are criminals…

    Idiotic, stupid, unpatriotic, and just completely WRONG

  41. If Cuomo wanted to make a change I believe the following would have been fair:
    Mandatory six month wait for a purchase of an ” assault weapon”
    A minimum age to purchase such deemed “evil” weapons (maybe 30?)
    Absolutely a better way to prevent fuktards from purchasing these weapons
    Allowing those with HCM to keep the mags but closing the loopholes in purchasing PMAGS from here on.
    Cuomo is punishing those who are responsible gun owners which by far outnumber the psychos who will still find a way to get their hands on a weapon to carry out their planned assaults !!!
    These clowns usually have an ending to their planned attack and it usually ends with the cowardly act of suicide. What makes Cuomo think new laws would deter that ?

  42. hi to all. my name is angelo. i live in nyc. and i work for the city for over 30 years. first of all i want to say i like most humans i dont condone the tragedy that has acurred at sandy hook. i as a parent and grandparent was cut to the heart when i heard and saw the news that a responsible nyc gun permit holder for over 25 years i agree with most measures being taken to curb gun violence in america . i currently hold a valid premise license which in nyc enables me to keep my firearms loaded at home for nyc you renew your permit every three years at 340.00 per renewal. on my last renewal over a year ago i was advised of the new 10 rd limit which meant i had to turn in any high cap. magizines. purchase new 10 rd. mags. at a cost of several hundred dollers.i complied .my collection consists of several glocks which most affectionados know come shipped from the glock factory with 10 rd. mags. so here i am sitting at home with a premise license and a bunch of paperweights. did i mention i live in the projects and surrounded by drug dealers and when i encounter a breakin in my home i hope the perp has seven rds. in his clip as i throw my paperweights at him. thanks gov. ill see you at the polls


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