New York Governor Cuomo Signs Law Banning Ghost Knives

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (AP Photo/Hans Pennink)

And you thought the GLOCK 7 was dangerous. Thank heavens Empire Staters have Governor Andrew Cuomo and his merry band of banners hard at work to keep them safe from, well everything!

After the City of New York had its ludicrous law that outlawed just about every pocket knife declared unconstitutionally vague, New York’s legislature and the state’s intrepid governor sprung into action to address another non-existent problem in a really big way.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed into law Tuesday a bill banning the manufacture and possession of knives that fail to set off metal detectors. 

“Undetectable knives are meant to be used by trained members of our police and military forces for covert operations — not regular civilians attempting to sneak weapons past metal detectors,” Cuomo said. 

The weapons, some strong enough to pierce a steel drum or car door, are made with materials like carbon fiber, titanium and ceramic that can pass undetected through security systems.

Because a grasping, control-hungry demagogue’s work is never done. Oh, and we hate to break it to the noted weapons experts at the New York Post, but titanium knives show up on most security systems.

“By signing this measure into law, we will keep these deadly knives out of dangerous hands and help ensure our airports, courtrooms and other public buildings are safe.”

This critical new piece of legislation was signed into law just a week after Cuomo signed a similar piece of legislation outlawing “ghost guns” in New York.

It is now a criminal offense to manufacture, sell, transport or possess 3D-printed firearms, nicknamed “ghost guns” because they can pass through a metal detector unnoticed.

Again, the Post gets it wrong when it comes to guns. So-called ghost guns are typically considered to be firearms without a serial number such as those built from 80% lowers or made from commonly available materials (just ask Kevin de Leon).

Building home-made guns — the kind that don’t require a serial number or transfer via a FFL — has, of course, been legal and an American pastime since there was an America. Now, except for California and New York. We feel safer already.

 

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  1. avatar Mark N. says:

    Does that mean all the chefs and cooks in NYS that own ceramic kitchen knives will be forced to dispose of them? Will the manufacturers of such knives be required to stop selling them there, and stores stop selling them?

    And the big question–the same as it was in California–what evidence is there that this is a real problem?

    1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

      I wondered about ceramic knives stabbing through car doors. I dropped a ceramic knife on me kitchen floor once. It shattered. Next. Evidence? We don’t need no stinkn’ evidence! Apologies to Bogie.

      1. avatar Gadsden Flag says:

        my. Spell check.

        1. avatar Victoria Illinois says:

          Aaaw and I thought you were Australian….darn.

        2. avatar Mark says:

          I thought he was a pirate. HOW DARE YOU ASSUME HIS PROFESSION-IDENTITY! o:
          😉

      2. avatar arc says:

        I love my ceramic knife in the greenhouse, it doesn’t rust and its easy to clean.

      3. avatar strych9 says:

        A ceramic knife will certainly stab through a car door. Especially if the blade is designed for stabbing.

        Ceramic is strong is certain directions but not in others. It’s also very hard which means while it has good edge retention it is brittle.

        The result is that a ceramic knife is very strong along the length and edge of the blade but is vulnerable to a shock from a hard object from the side.

        It’s the other properties that make a ceramic a good choice for certain applications. It doesn’t corrode, holds an edge very well, won’t conduct electricity and is chemically resistant. That’s why knives specially meant for EOD techs are made from ceramic (mainly for it’s non-conductive nature).

        1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

          I have a ceramic kitchen knife. I love it.
          It slices, it dices, it cuts ham so thin, your relatives will never come back.

          Ok, the last sentence was satire.

        2. avatar SkyMan77 says:

          All I wanted was a ham sandwich.. AND SHE WOULDN’T GIVE IT TO ME… 🙂

      4. avatar Paul says:

        Never had a ceramic knife – but I did have a knife shatter when I dropped it. Way, way, way sub-zero cold, that stainless steel broke apart on three lines, with the distinctive sound of shattering glass. My advice is, don’t drop any knife on concrete if you’re near the Arctic circle. At least not until this global warming thing has worked it’s way to fruition. :^)

        1. avatar rocketscientist says:

          Thats…. actually really odd. Stainless steels were invented almost by accident. They were trying to develop steels that could maintain ductility (ie not become brittle and weak) at cryogenic temps, as we were just developing the technology to make things that cold. They found a particular alloy that worked well, and happy accident found that it passivated rapidly and didn’t rust nearly as easily, aka stainless steels. Even today in cryogenic applications, stainless tubing is used as it withstands cold temps very well. If you dropped a stainless knife, even after dunking in liquid nitrogen, it should have been okay. I’m guessing there was already a material flaw (latent crack/void/stress concentration) already and the cold just pushed it over the edge to being fractured? A stainless blade in good kit should not turn brittle until temps MUCH colder than you’ll find on earth’s surface.

        2. avatar MaddMaxx says:

          Cheap NoKo steel too much carbon…

    2. avatar frank speak says:

      none,..of course..but obviously anything that remotely resembles a weapon is an anathema to people like him…it can get you in trouble, though..as recently happened to me…while it will pass through a metal detector it’s easily identifiable on an X-ray machine…fortunately the guy that detected it was an understanding sort and returned it to me when I exited the bldg….

      1. avatar Dave G. says:

        @Frank Speak:
        “…anything that remotely resembles a weapon is an anathema to people like him…”

        Except for those possessed by the goons that guard his worthless hide…

    3. avatar Adam says:

      Don’t forget ceramic scissors. I always thought those hair stylists were up to something.

      Adam, who still styles his do with clippers and a #1 guard. Because I’m fashionable, dammit.

      1. avatar Michael Stilinovich says:

        Hey Adam,
        I too avoid those lurking behind the facade of a beauticians shop.
        And if I was fortunate enough to live in NEW York I definitely would feel safer.
        But unfortunately I live in California where souls are traded daily.
        By the way I live on the edge and plant at least a #4 on my Walls and if I’m really feeling frisky I may even move up to a #5.

        1. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

          wahls.

        2. avatar Michael Stilinovich says:

          Re: tsbhoa.p.jr
          Every form of discourse most certainly needs, lest one forgets, to hold content higher than form for thou whom hold their whimsical power over thee to bow undivided into the mist of the yet unfamiliar path into the journey.

        3. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

          my bad. i thought you meant sheep shears.
          i only pointed out the distinction as i have previously been wall climbing, and if you’re graduating from a #4 to a #5 your well on your way to the point of no return.
          save yourself, it’s too late for me.

    4. Food in NY is not what it used to be, so Boo Boo to all the chefs. NY is smarter than London and is preempting the potential weapons issues when all firearms are made illegal, and it will happen if everyone interested keeps sitting on there thumbs (for lack of a better word). Then, as the intrepid Gov has shown, the next choice of self defense will be sharp objects (luckily most of my sword collection is post Civil War thus not sharp). If he really cared about mass (what did they call it?) whatevers, he would be banning trucks (France), gasoline (Japan), poison gas (Japan, again, sucks when most things are already banned), fertilizer (US), and the list goes on. Stanley Kubrick got it right every time. https://youtu.be/ypEaGQb6dJk

    5. avatar Geoff "Guns. Lots of guns." PR says:

      “Does that mean all the chefs and cooks in NYS that own ceramic kitchen knives will be forced to dispose of them?”

      The knife companies can get around that by making the handles metal…

      1. avatar Paul says:

        Don’t even have to do that much. A small medallion embedded into the ceramic, made of metal, and easily pried out if/when the purchaser feels it desirable to do so. The manufacturer met the letter of the law, while supplying an “undetectable” knife to his paying customer.

    6. avatar George says:

      New movie “Idiots in Office & the Azz Clowns that put them there” Whats next ? Removal of all plastic forks & Knives ? Maybe it’s time the idiots are removed?

      1. avatar No One Special says:

        “Maybe it’s time they are removed?”

        That is for sure and for certain!

  2. avatar No One Special says:

    The bit about titanium being detected by atleast metal detractors I question. I have a titanium rod the runs the length of my left tibia (shin bone) with two screws to fix a spiral open fracture from a dirt bike accident in 2005. It doesn’t and never has set off metal detectors. I have a medical card in case it ever did but to date it hasn’t ever. Maybe only some titanium is detectable.

    1. avatar MB says:

      There is a difference between ferrous and non-ferrous metals and you need special detectors to detect non-ferrous metals but they certainly are detectable.

      1. avatar edward kenway's ghost says:

        Not all metals are created equally where magnetic detectors are concerned. There are magnetic, paramagnetic, and diamagnetic metals in the periodic table and and the type of detector used to sort them out matters.

      2. avatar Hannibal says:

        As another member of the titanium implant club your point seems largely moot if ‘metal detectors’ used at security checkpoints don’t detect them (and they don’t detect mine!)

        1. avatar No One Special says:

          Agreed, nothing in common usage has picked up my implant. If there is something that ever did I’d be surprised and definitely want to know more about the device that did pick it up.

    2. avatar frank speak says:

      artificial hips can cause you a good deal of inconvenience at airports…

      1. avatar No One Special says:

        The older stainless steel I’m sure but if it’s made of titanium I seriously doubt it. Unless of course they use a different titanium for hips than the over half inch diameter by roughly 20 inch long titanium rod in my left leg with two titanium screws holding the rod stationary.

        1. avatar Geoff "Guns. Lots of guns." PR says:

          Lucky bastard.

          You got a titanium tibia, and all I got was a stainless rod in there… 😉

        2. avatar No One Special says:

          The rod actually goes through the center of the bone but titanium filled tibia sure. I should have had it taken out years ago but it doesn’t cause any problems and I’d be on crutches for about 6 months waiting for the marrow to fill back in.

        3. avatar Geoff "Guns. Lots of guns." PR says:

          “The rod actually goes through the center of the bone…”

          Same as mine, except it was stainless.

          If you ever want to get the willies, YouTube “tibia internal fixation”.

          Let’s just say I’m damn glad I wasn’t awake when they went under my kneecap and bored out the marrow and *pounded* that ‘nail’ all the way down to my shattered ankle…

        4. avatar No One Special says:

          “Let’s just say I’m damn glad I wasn’t awake when they went under my kneecap and bored out the marrow and *pounded* that ‘nail’ all the way down to my shattered ankle…”

          So about that, me too. I initially thought that the surgeon drilled the hole and then inserted the nail in the hole. I later found out I was WRONG so very WRONG. The surgeon just drills a starting “pilot hole” and then hammers the nail into place. Could be why they call it a nail I guess. I have a pretty strong stomach but when I heard that it kind of turned my stomach a little bit. The history of the implant and procedure is interesting though. Apparently the Germans came up with it during WWII to put troops back on the battle field quicker.

        5. avatar burley says:

          I have a titanium hip and I’ve been through several metal detectors with no issue.

    3. avatar Rand says:

      I also have a titanium rod in the same location. It is basically hidden from a properly tuned stationary metal detector for the same reason women are told to wrap their hands around metal bracelets and bangles and try walking thru again. A hand wand will detect it but easily explainable with a hand touch. However, the same thing could be said about weapons in body cavities. Unless they make you bend over naked and squat and spread the cheeks or thighswith a digital search it wont be detected either.

      1. avatar No One Special says:

        A wand detectors doesn’t pick up mine for what ever reason. It has never come up in court houses, airports, stadiums, anywhere I’ve had to pass through a security check point.

    4. avatar Adam says:

      Depends on the mass of the Ti, brother. I’ve got 10 pieces in me. I guess they’re not individually big enough to set anything off.

      ‘Course, I have zipper access to all of them and can assemble a .9mm single shot pistol ala The Man with the GoldenGun.

      (pew)

      1. avatar No One Special says:

        My orthopedic surgeon showed me the rod he put in my leg. It was over a half inch in diameter and a good 20 inches long plus 2 decent size titanium screws to hold it in place.

        1. avatar Geoff "Guns. Lots of guns." PR says:

          I got the titanium screws along with a stainless side-plate in my injury. Going to get the plate and screws removed after about a year, and I’m planning to save the screws as a souvenir from that ‘adventure’ to make a pendant…

        2. avatar No One Special says:

          I had to have a screw removed during a 3rd surgery which left me with 2 remaining. I have it somewhere so I can definitely relate. The one I have looks like no other screw I have ever seen.

        3. avatar Geoff "Guns. Lots of guns." PR says:

          On my recovery X-ray, my titanium screws look *exactly* like smallish counter-sunk wood screws…

        4. avatar No One Special says:

          The threads on mine were flat on the top and the point was a funny shaped self tapping affair. Otherwise yep it did look like a countersunk wood screw. When you get yours in hand I’d be interested if it looks similar or totally different.

    5. avatar SoBe says:

      As a surgeon who places a lot of titanium in faces for reconstruction, from my patient’s comments when travelling through security check points (versus, official medical community dogma, and with fear of the heavy handed repercussions of deviating from “evidence based medicine”), titanium is no more detectable than any dense plastic. That does not mean it can not be detected, but it has less of a signature than more common metals

      1. avatar No One Special says:

        Like I said my surgeon gave me a medical card just in case but I have never needed it. That’s why I said I question the bit about titanium. If airport detectors won’t pick it after 9/11 I doubt there’s much in common usage that will.

        1. avatar SoBe says:

          I doubt anyone at the common level of training will notice, but I recommend you carry the card you were given, because you are likely to run into either someone with a lessor level of training or who had the correct training but a lessor level of retention (not unheard of).

    6. avatar Paul says:

      Probably depends on the alloy. We use titanium some at work, and not all titanium is equal in every respect. The most dramatic demonstration of that inequality, was when we had a little bit of a fire – and the titanium DID NOT ignite. Titanium of higher purity would have added to the fire.

      My stepdad died several years before 9/11/01, so he was never required to pass through a metal detector. That may have been challenging, as 1/4 of his skull was metal, from the WW2 era.

  3. avatar Cruzo1981 says:

    How about we ban fake Patriots in office that pretend to care about the Bill of Rights, you know, the most dangerous thing in the country.

    1. avatar Rad Man says:

      The New England Patriots will go 13-3 and waltz into the AFC Championship game against the Chefs.

      1. avatar Hank says:

        Probably win the super bowl again too. The only AFC team I can see beating them is maybe the chiefs. The only NFC teams that might have a shot at beating them are the Saints or maybe if Green Bay gets its shit together.

        1. avatar former water walker says:

          LOL…Da Bears had everyone beat. Including NE. Not blown out in ANY game.They could have won the SB except for a pathetic fg kicker. They’ll destroy Greenbay. Drean on.

        2. avatar Hank says:

          The bears are way better then they have been years past, but they’re kinda built like the rams. Super strong team but a young QB who’s just not to the point yet where he could win a game against someone like Brady. I agree Green Bay could be a dumpster fire this year too, but they could get a lot better with the new staff. But my point was, I don’t see many teams that really can scare the Patriots at all. If had to bet, I would put my money on the saints and only if Brees doesn’t hit the age wall.

        3. avatar frank speak says:

          …unless Brady gets injured…which has happened in the past…then they become quite beatable…

        4. avatar frank speak says:

          if Ju-Ju doesn’t make that fumble…and the referees stop making weird calls…we’d have probably beaten them in the superdome…..nobody is unbeatable…although foxboro comes close…we’ll be there for the opener….

        5. avatar Hank says:

          True. He’s what, 42 now? Eventually he’s gotta hit that wall too. Unless he’s a cyborg.

        6. avatar Victoria Illinois says:

          Go Green Bay! except for the “kumbaya” I-stand-with-the stupid-protesters Rogers.

        7. avatar Rad Man says:

          Frank, the season TB 12 was injured they still went 11-5, when he was suspended the Patriots win the Superb Owl.

      2. avatar MikeJH121 says:

        They better beat the Chefs….they may be able to cook but can’t catch a football worth a damn. lololol

      3. avatar FormerParatrooper says:

        I remember the commercial where the guy painted “Chefs” in the end zone. The Chiefs have a chance. They worked thru the jitters last season and are building a good team. This will be a good season to watch.

        1. avatar frank speak says:

          ….need to improve their defense to have a real chance…outscoring your opponent is not a viable strategy…

      4. avatar Dani in WA says:

        They will beat any chef who uses a ceramic knife…

  4. avatar Cruzo1981 says:

    Up next: Premiere Cuomo signs the ban on ghost scissors. Those pesky safety scissors kindergartners use every day are undetectable, they need to be banned. All those stabbings in Pre K, oh the horror…

  5. avatar Lost Down South says:

    “By signing this measure into law, we will keep these deadly knives out of dangerous hands and help ensure our airports, courtrooms and other public buildings are safe.”

    That’s right. No more ghost knives! Wow. That was easy.

    1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

      Yeah, sure…this measure will “ensure” safety for everyone. Until it won’t.

      What about an edged acrylic or hardwood implement that can (and probably will at some point) be used to stab and kill someone?

      This Cuomo guy is starting to sound like London’s mayor…the one who pushed their own knife ban. That worked well, until it didn’t. Now they have a problem with hammer and acid attacks.

      CA sucks with gun laws, but you know why we don’t (yet) have a knife problem? Because we can still carry, and pretty much everyone has a folding knife clipped to their pocket. If you whip yours out and try anything funny, the men around you will whip their out and keep you under control. Hmm…I wonder if that “self-policing” would work with guns…

      1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

        Wait…maybe I shouldn’t have said all the men would whip theirs out…lol.

        1. avatar MikeJH121 says:

          I haz some glass reinforced nylon blades. They set nothing off. As to the whipping out… there is the little blue pill that at least puts you in good “standing”

    2. avatar Ed Schrade says:

      Yeah, we all know that passing a law will always stop a murderer from killig someone since they always obey the law. These socialists are really something aren’t they.

    3. avatar Big Bill says:

      Personally, I have found that grade stakes, simply whittled to a point with a paring knife, will easily kill any vampire I’ve ever met.
      I expect that will be made illegal any time now.

  6. avatar billy-bob says:

    They banned 3 D printed guns, 80% lowers still ok?

    1. avatar GS650G says:

      Maybe not printed ones. But the border is porous and it’s possible to leave.

  7. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    The man is a certifiable Leftard loon,that would appear to fit the definition of the Lefts Red Flag response. After all it’s for the kiddies and one more loon is removed from possibly doing danger to himself or others,hows them apples gov. .

  8. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

    Someone at Glock should do a tribute Glock knife out of all plastic,the N. Y. ghost knife,they would sell like hotcakes .

  9. avatar Ranger Rick R says:

    The Godfather’s new laws have effectively made New York the safest of all the 50 states……..

    1. avatar billy-bob says:

      Unless you’re a, you know, baby in or just out of the womb.

  10. avatar NORDNEG says:

    How can IDIOTS like this be in office???
    N Y has always been a creepy state, but the people who vote for this jerk need to stay there & suffer the consequences of the IDIOTS that run that craphole.

    1. avatar HP says:

      NYC elected this guy, not NY State. Take a look at the last 2 gubernatorial elections in NY, the electoral map is almost all conservative red, except for NYC.

      As for the state being “creepy”, have you ever been here?

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        upstate is the refuge of “normal” people….

      2. avatar Petercat says:

        I have. Beautiful scenery, great people, meh roads.
        Inside the city? Makes me want to vomit.
        Will I ever return? No. I have a CWP that New York doesn’t accept.
        Outside the state, I’m a good, trustworthy citizen, an asset to law enforcement.
        Step across the state line and I become a raving homicidal lunatic who must be locked away for ten years for the safety of the citizens of New York.
        I don’t get it, must be something in the water.

  11. avatar Bitter says:

    “Undetectable knives are meant to be used by trained members of our police and military forces for covert operations”
    can someone tell me why police would need an undetectable knife??? and military forces for covert operations…In New York???
    not that any of this makes sense but c’mon really?

    1. avatar Geoff "Guns. Lots of guns." PR says:

      “…can someone tell me why police would need an undetectable knife???”

      I’ll take a guess, for an undercover cop who might get wanded…

      1. avatar strych9 says:

        OK, I’ll play. Such a thought brings up what should be an obvious point and that, in turn, brings up the point that Cuomo is still a moron.

        Assume for a moment that the law had it’s desired and promised outcome. OK, now ONLY cops and mil have such knives.

        A magnetometer won’t find it but a proper pat-down will. Magnetometers cost money, pat-downs cost a few minutes at most. So, the BG’s don’t bother buying a magnetometer, instead they opt for the better and cheaper option, especially since they know that there are weapons on this planet that the wand/walk through won’t catch so they go with the pat down.

        When they find one of these knives on an undercover cop, how does that cop talk himself out of getting murdered on the spot when they know that him having this means he’s either a cop or military and either way is not the friend of theirs that he claimed to be?

        Either the law doesn’t work and the knives are still available to non-cops/mil and Cuomo is a moron OR he’s thinking that only cops/mil will have them, ostenibly for undercover operations, and if caught with them will be instantly outed as a cop and killed and now Cuomo is a moron advocating policies that get UC investigators killed and, if it saves one life, right?

        No matter how you cut it on this one Cuomo’s a dipshit.

  12. avatar Gun and knife aficionado says:

    Next logical step will be concealable knives (pocket knives) those darn 2.5 in folding knives are too concealable, so knives will have to have a blade minimum length of 7 in and a max of 12 in, with a rubber safety edge around the blade. Blades shall be carried on the belt or drop leg sheath. Think of those long frosting spatulas bakers use.

    You’ll have to get a license to carry it outside your home of course, and fees from said license process will go to fund research into smart knives that can only be unsheathed by the registered owner.

    God forbid soft, non fiberous foods or items are cut by an un-licensed New Yorker. 😂

    1. avatar Dani in WA says:

      Next step is making a fist!

  13. avatar strych9 says:

    If penetrating the thin sheet metal on a car is the new test for what should and shouldn’t be banned a whole lot of things are going to be illegal.

  14. avatar Nanashi says:

    I’m interested in buying such a knife now. Any recommendations?

    1. avatar Nanashi says:

      Should clarify I’m interested in a carryable one. I’ve got good kitchen knifes.

      1. avatar Texican says:

        Cold Steel Brand. All that I buy or carry. Something for everyone and lots of options on non-metallic knives. And Cuomo is a certifiable idiot!

        1. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

          drive chinese cars too?

      2. avatar strych9 says:

        Stone River Gear makes ceramic knives in hunting, folding and fixed “combat” styles.

        Boker also makes a few folders in ceramic.

        After that there are other companies about which I know only the name. Go to a website like BladeHQ and just search for “ceramic”.

        As for others, outside of dive knives I don’t know much about Ti “carry” knives and less about carbon fiber other than that it works to some extent.

      3. avatar frank speak says:

        well you could try the “credit card knife”…just don’t keep it in your wallet…that’s what got me in trouble…used the standard adage “I forgot that it was there”….which was true in this case…

        1. avatar Mark N. says:

          Happened to me too. Pointless little gimmick, but I stuck it in my wallet, and it was detected. Funny, can’t remember now where that was.

    2. avatar MikeJH121 says:

      I know Co’s like Cold Steel makes nylon daggers and such. I have some. Carry no metal will cut and do stabby things. Thet also make Kraton Poly blades like Karambits single and double edged just go to Amaz-on and try Cold Steel non metal knives.

      1. avatar frank speak says:

        they also come concealed in things like comb and brush handles….

    3. avatar Hank says:

      I’ve got some pretty good dive knives made of titanium. Never tried them in a metal detector though so I couldn’t really recommend any.

      1. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

        Well I recently purchased a brand spankin’ new titanium hip and I’ve been told I can now expect to be thoroughly groped whenever I attempt to fly on a commercial airline, so while I’ve never actually tested out the theory, I’m still prepared to declare BS on that one.

        1. avatar No One Special says:

          I can tell you from experience because I have a pretty large chunk of titanium in my left leg that it won’t set off even airport metal detectors.

        2. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

          Well that still won’t make me detest flying any more than I did before.

    4. avatar J.D. Fowlerton says:

      I’ve got one of the VZ G10 daggers and got my father one in carbon fiber. No real cutting edge to speak of so basically just for thrusting but it is super light and easy to hide; I keep mine on my phone arm band when I go jogging strapped along the inside of my upper arm so it’s not very visible.

    5. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

      can you throw multiple punches? i can repeatedly go thru clam buckets with these.
      https://sobtacticalshop.com/category/punchers/
      get one for each cheek.

  15. avatar Ralph says:

    But did Giv. Mussolini get the trains running on time?

  16. avatar Kris says:

    This guy is an absolute Dick Head

  17. avatar Leighton Cavendish says:

    Pencil…pen…shoestring…
    anything can become a weapon in the right hands…
    heck…plastic casing on lots of things can be used as a makeshift blade…sometimes by accident…LOL
    and yet Kimber still makes guns in NYC…HMMMM

    1. avatar SoCalJack says:

      True. A tactical pen or any all metal pen like a Zebra F-701 can be used in self-defense if someone has you in a choke hold, just start stabbing him. Maybe carry one for left and one for right hand draw if in a no gun area, I.e. Federal building. The intent is to have what’s called a writing instrument.

    2. avatar edward kenway's ghost says:

      Old serial number Kimbers are sometimes considered better than the newer models. Not only the metal but the workmanship matters. Years ago I wouldn’t have even blinked about buying something “Made in USA” but the Progressives have convinced me boycotts should cut both ways.

  18. avatar FormerParatrooper says:

    Does this edict include obsidian knives or small pieces of it? Asking for a friend.

    I work in magnet field environments of 1.5T and above, my gp knife is non ferrous. I also on occasionan have to work in Manhattan. If I have the knife in my tools, am I still in violation of his Royal Majesties solemn proclamation? How about my brass hammer? Or about any of my non ferrous tools that easily used as a weapon?

    It sounds like he has solved all the pressing issues of NYC and has time for nonsensical legislation.

    1. avatar Geoff "Guns. Lots of guns." PR says:

      “I work in magnet field environments of 1.5T and above,…)

      1.5 Tesla? Older MRI gear?

      1. avatar FormerParatrooper says:

        Correct, MRI. I test and repair the faraday cage they are sited in. Fun stuff.

  19. avatar HP says:

    “Building home-made guns — the kind that don’t require a serial number or transfer via a FFL — has, of course, been legal and an American pastime since there was an America. Now, except for California and New York. We feel safer already.”

    Wait, what? The bill Cuomo signed outlaws 3D printed guns. It says nothing about milling out an 80% lower, which to my knowledge, is still completely legal in NY. Or does it? This is a confusing TTAG article.

  20. avatar GS650G says:

    New york has Ghost Rights. They pretend people have constitutional rights but they really don’t.

    1. avatar Petercat says:

      Ghosts retain the right to vote. Liberal ghosts.

      1. avatar MaddMaxx says:

        It would appear that while liberal ghosts retain the right to vote in New York, they will have to leave their knives at home (crypt/wherever) when they go to the polls… Thanks Gov.

  21. avatar HEGEMON says:

    Sharpened end of a toothbrush, does wonders in prison, are those outlawed too?

  22. avatar Walter says:

    WE Need to protest bed bath and Beyond for Carrying Dangerous weapons! The Ceramic and Titanium Kitchen Ware is Endagering The Safety of our People! and Their prices are too high! and what the hell are we talking about? pfft…

  23. avatar Shire-man says:

    I would like to know more about these covert police operations which require undetectable knives. At the very least which movies Cuomo saw this nonsense in.

  24. avatar Sian says:

    “Undetectable knives are meant to be used by trained members of our police and military forces for covert operations — not regular civilians attempting to sneak weapons past metal detectors,” Cuomo said.

    What the crap are NY police doing that they need undetectable knives?

    Is anyone in the media going to call him out on this?

    1. avatar Ton E says:

      “Is anyone in the media going to call him out on this?”

      Repeat that question back to yourself…….

  25. avatar Timothy Toroian says:

    He foorrggoott about SHARP STICKS!!! Just like the mayor of London. Just in case, this means I think he is absolutely ridiculous.

  26. avatar Joseph Malone says:

    I do martial arts. Why do they ban weapons to make them safe, like do they have no understanding of having their necks broke or being killed in other ways? I guess I am saying that it would be really easy to kill them without weapons. I feel uncomfortable around politicians that do not know what they are talking about. They do not understand violence but are supposed to keep me safe from it? They are not capable enough. They sound like children who have no ability to protect someone but make the claim that they do. Someone under their spell and looking to them for protection is scary. It means that they are someone who is weaker and less informed than them.

    It is just annoying that politicians are wimps who want to ban weapons because they are scared people want to hurt them for taking away their rights and freedoms and that somehow the thinking is that someone that determined would need weapons. So it seems they do not care about public safety but are trying to protect themselves from disgruntled voters. As such I think it would be pretty easy to beat them up. They come off as desperate to avoid the natural consequences of their actions while simultaneously acting guilty like they deserve it. Banning weapons so you do not have them but they do is to upset the balance of power. They can hurt you but you cannot hurt them. What jerks.

  27. avatar Cory C. says:

    Undetectable knives used by military and police for special operations? What a bunch of made up nonsense.

  28. avatar Ton e says:

    Sounds scary…..glad he banned it……

  29. avatar DaveL says:

    Wait, did they just outlaw disposable picnic cutlery?

    1. avatar Dustin C Brown says:

      Time to start investing in blunted sporks!!

  30. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

    ‘“Undetectable knives are meant to be used by trained members of our police and military forces for covert operations — not regular civilians attempting to sneak weapons past metal detectors,” Cuomo said.’

    Which brings up the logical question of why the police and military forces are trying to sneak weapons past metal detectors…

    1. avatar Ton E says:

      Thats G14 classified…..

      1. avatar SoBe says:

        As I said, but for my fear of repercussions from organized medicine for my deviations from “evidenced medicine,” my more than thirty years of experience [probably more experience at this point than most of the members of my organized colleagues] (and still very actively practicing) in facial trauma lead me to agree. Not all doctors are ignorant Libertard Commucrats. I came here from a Communist country, but my father (God bless his soul) deemed none of his children would be educated by Communists.

  31. avatar Sgt preston says:

    Cuomo has joined the land of wacky Libtards willing to outlaw everything to keep people “safe” . Wonder when he will outlaw sex because some have had strokes while having sex.

    1. Actually, makes me wonder why he has not banned “safe sex” after all the ultraconservative religious groups have banned all but reproductive sex, and the gun banning leftist liberals worship at the altar of Roe v Wade.
      They have no problem with the murder of children yet always turn everything they oppose into an argument, “what about the children?” More unborn children die due to their policies than born children die to fire arms. Where is the outrage? Really, why is no one upset?

      1. avatar Dave G. says:

        @Hannibal and the Elephants:
        “More unborn children die due to their policies than born children die (due) to fire arms. Where is the outrage? Really, why is no one upset?”

        There is plenty of outrage out there because of abortion (including by yours truly). But nothing will be done about it, because a large majority of voters just don’t give a shit. It’s just one more symptom of a sick society engendered by a permissive liberal state-run (monopolistic) education system.

    2. avatar No One Special says:

      Who was it that said anyone that would trade freedom for safety doesn’t deserves either one?

    3. Yeah, I expect him to outlaw erections, next….after all, think of the damage they can do to a woman.

      1. avatar barnbwt says:

        Life begins at arousal.

  32. avatar AlanInFL says:

    I guess besides ceramic tool. The rubber training knives I guess is also banned.

  33. avatar Sean G./The Rookie says:

    Hrm, does this mean Wolverine is illegal in New York now?

  34. avatar WhiteDevil says:

    These motherfuckers need to be executed. Like, as in, yesterday. Yeah, I said it, and I mean it. These scum of the earth are human pieces of shit attempting to control your life and tell you what you can do, and “punish” you if you fight back. As though, they have any authority to dictate what another human being does or bring judgment against another human being for their actions. They need to be routed out and destroyed. Wholesale.

    1. avatar John says:

      That’s the whole idea behind the liberal agenda, CONTROL! These excrement demo-commie-craps want to control every single aspect of our lives, because they think they are so much better at running our lives than we mere peons are.

  35. avatar barnbwt says:

    Peak sharpened toofbrush

  36. avatar Marcus says:

    Oh thank God I’m scared to death about being murdered by a ghost, I’ve seen way too many horror movies to wish that on anyone.

  37. avatar Brian Emmert says:

    Taking lessons from the Mayor of London, England now is he? The insane taking of or making items illegal because it can hurt someone is bull. I am more scared of not being able to defend myself against empty headed politicians and you know they are there.

  38. avatar Richard Coon says:

    When are they going to outlaw all blunt instruments?????

    1. avatar Pg2 says:

      The same Governor just signed a mandatory vaccine bill for school kids. He selectively likes some pointy objects, always for the greater good, like gun control and now knife control.

      1. avatar No One Special says:

        Did you not get that this is not a free for all discussion. Do you have anything to offer on the subject at hand? Lastly and finally vaccinations have been saving lives long before you decided they are bad. Just stop!

        1. avatar Pg2 says:

          Did you get the memo that you don’t get to decide What I post here? And no, vaccines have not saved lives. There is ZERO evidence based proof the risks of vaccines outweigh the benefits.

  39. avatar NavyPO2 says:

    The Demoncrats are at it again! Ban this, Ban that, Ban this, Ban that, Ban this, Ban that, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. avatar BusyBeef says:

    If you can’t detect it, how are you going to enforce it?

    1. avatar barnbwt says:

      Quiet, you!

  41. avatar Zakkova says:

    Cuomo is a dumb ass motherfucker with shit for brains.

    1. avatar John says:

      LOL! That is perfectly stated, and I couldn’t agree more. I believe a large percentage of ignorant libtards do have shit for brains!

  42. avatar Pg2 says:

    If the benefits outweigh the risks, then it’s good public policy. Even without actual proof of the benefits outweighing the risks…..many here agree with this pbilosophy when it’s comes to vaccines. So you will lose your gun rights as you cling to these hypocritical statist opinions because public opinion, despite lack of proof, is going to overwhelm gun rights.

    1. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

      3strikes on one post and you’re OUT.
      oh, that’s what that key does…

  43. avatar GluteusMaximus says:

    Thank god, those cavemen with their flint knives were a menace.

  44. avatar Mr no says:

    Maybe they should ban el douche and fuck NYC mom

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