My Home Carry Epiphany


By Donald Frame

RF got my attention regarding the merits of home carry, so I decided to give it a go. I’ve been at it about a month, carrying more than 90% of the time at home. Here are the results so far: carrying at home is not as much of a pain as I had anticipated. Most of my carrying has been with largish pistols in various forms of pocket carry, and it’s not too bad. I’m not worried about printing around the house, so that’s one less concern. I haven’t found a great way to carry in comfortable pre-bedtime wear yet though. And I have no idea how to carry when I am a swimsuit. Maybe I need a P226 Navy Seal version with the waterproof small parts. Then I could lie on the bottom of the pool, securely anchored by the weight of the gun. But overall, home carry isn’t all that much trouble . . .

And enough things have happened around here to emphasize the wisdom of arming up. We’ve had two sort of half-hearted home invasions in my little neighborhood, and not long ago I decided a HVAC guy coming into the neighborhood was suspicious. I decided to follow and photograph. I can’t tell you why this particular guy raised my Spidey senses rather than any of the other legion of workman that lurk at the gate, waiting for someone like me to let them in. But follow I did.

That really pissed this one off though. He came to my passenger window and offered to kick my ass for me, and was generally not friendly. It was bad enough that I was starting to wonder if I would need to shoot the gun that was already in my hand. I drove away and called the number on the van from the safety of my garage, wanting to speak to his employer, but I got the same guy. He offered to kick my ass some more. My inner young man though about inviting him over for a contest, but my inner old man decided that was probably unwise.

Research after the fact turned out no evidence of a HVAC license I could track to the name on the vehicle. No one in the neighborhood had called for service. I was able to track down a criminal record with picture of my guy attached that showed felony convictions for simple assault and sexual assault on a child. On balance, I think he might have been up to no good. I still don’t know what made me follow this guy. I related all this to the police, who dutifully wrote it all down.

The big takeaway from home carry so far: carrying around the house has made me realize how vulnerable I am at any given moment. I’m not 22 any more, strong and mighty from summers in the oil field. I’m about 60 and a little gimpy. We live on an acre with a guest house. It’s easy to end up far from convenient firepower. All those guns in the safe only help me if I’m close to the safe. With the safe unlocked. With a suitable gun out of its storage baggie. And fully loaded.  So if you want to be prepared to repel boarders, carrying is the only practical alternative.

To wit: last week, I had a guy show up to cut our yard. He had the wrong yard, but I didn’t realize it. What I knew is that my wife came into my office and let me know there were two dudes in the driveway. Every ER doctor knows that nearly all the mayhem in the world is committed by “two dudes,” and now they were in my driveway.

So I went out into the driveway and visited with dude #1. Between his fractured English and my sickly Spanish, he explained himself and went on his way. I think he really was there by mistake, but who knows? It was better to be there with pistol on body than not.

That led to the second realization: walking out the door to convene with dude #1 made me think. The pistol you carry doesn’t mean you’re safe. If there is a fight, a gun doesn’t mean you’re going to win it. It doesn’t mean that even if you win, you will not suffer greatly as a result. There are no guarantees in this thing.

A normal distance to talk with strangers is just a few feet away. If your stranger turns into your opponent, and he’s good enough to do it without the customary bowing-up grace period of fair warning, you’ve got a real problem on your hands. You might have a real problem even if he does bow up and even if you do immediately get with the program. Guns are great, but they aren’t immunity from danger.

Home carry is working out well so far, though I’m sure there is more to learn. One lesson so far is that the main point of your handgun is having it handy. If it isn’t handy, it isn’t useful. The second lesson is that a continuous level of alertness is required to achieve optimum safety, which is not “safe” in the absolute sense. There is no absolute in this. This is why they say “be careful out there.”


  1. avatar MD says:

    Interesting article. I think home carry is a good idea. Good luck with it.

    One note of caution though – following the HVAC guy doesn’t sound like a wonderful idea to me. Didn’t George Zimmerman get into hot water following someone in his community who looked suspicious? As always, you got to make your own decisions based on your circumstances.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “One note of caution though – following the HVAC guy doesn’t sound like a wonderful idea to me.”

      He was in his vehicle, and stayed there.

      I would have recorded the threats he made in that confrontation and then gone to the cops.

      The chance of a conviction would be excellent.

      (I would have also recorded that video live to the cloud.)

      1. avatar MD says:

        Yes, the author stayed in his vehicle. However he still got into a verbal confrontation that was threatening enough for him to grab his gun.

        I prefer to avoid conflict. If that doesn’t work, I’ll attempt to de-escalate. And if that doesn’t work, I’ll use the appropriate level of force to resolve it. For me, if I was being verbally abused by an angry man while in my truck, I might simply drive away. If that wasn’t possible, I’d probably palm my pepper spray. A gun is my last choice. I’m not slamming the author, he did what seemed right to him at the time. I hope I would make different choices in that situation.

    2. avatar WuzNtMe says:

      If I even suspected that one of my neighbors was keeping an eye out for the rest of us I would buy that man a beer.
      As they say “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

      Stealing A/C compressors is a rampant problem where I live. I probably wouldn’t have thought twice about someone with an actual HVAC service vehicle. From reports I have read it’s usually just someone in a pickup, sometimes with a trailer.

  2. avatar Garrison Hall says:

    And if home carry doesn’t fit your comfort zone or shared habitat protocols, you can secret a gun in every room (or at lest the main rooms of your house). A weapon within easy reach at all times is better than no weapon or one locked away in a safe.

    1. avatar Sock Monkey says:

      I don’t quite understand the “home carry” talk, because having my gun on whenever I’m dressed just seems more convenient than arming/disarming every time I go in or out. So there’s no home carry; just carry. Of course, that assumes on-body carry.

      If guys are disarming when they come home, is that because they’re the sort of guys that dump their keys and wallet on the coffee table when they come home? I’ve never gotten that, either. Again, isn’t it just more convenient to leave the stuff in your pockets?

      1. avatar Sabrewolfe says:

        I’m of a like mind. My keys get hung up, but everything I EDC on my person stays put, whether at home or not. I’ve found it works better in general that way. No worries about forgetting something when you leave the house and no wondering where the nearest weapon is if SHTF while in the house. I look at it as applied KISS principle.

      2. avatar Dan A says:

        With you on that. I started “home carrying” when I stopped remembering to take my gun off when I came home. That was years ago. These days wearing a gun is synonymous with wearing pants. I guess there’s some folks who just don’t like wearing pants though, so maybe “home carry” might be tricky for them.

        1. avatar John in Ohio says:

          so maybe “home carry” might be tricky for them.

          No as much as one might think. A simple belt and old school holster works great. You get used to it over the years. 😀

      3. avatar The Trouble with Timbo says:

        Some of us live behind enemy lines and cannot carry outside like those of you in free America. Home carry for us means grabbing our pistol when we get home and then putting it away when we venture outside

  3. avatar Cuteandfuzzybunnies says:

    If two dudes show up unexpected at my home my wife or I will likely open carry. If I’m home my wife sill cover me as I investigste. I will not get working 10 feet of either dude. If they rush me I will shoot them. Honestly though open carry is s pretty good deterrent. Most criminals do NOT attack armed men unless cornered.

    1. avatar Grindstone says:

      Good way to let them know you have a gun and possibly more, that they could take when you’re not around to use it.

      1. avatar JR_in_NC says:

        Why would his carry gun be there when he’s not?

        1. avatar Grindstone says:

          Who said anything about a carry gun?

        2. avatar Gunr says:

          “Why would his gun be there when he’s not”,
          Yes, his carry gun would be with him, but carrying a gun in the open will probably give someone the impression that there are probably more where that came from.
          “To each his own” My philosophy is out of sight, out of mind

        3. avatar JR_in_NC says:

          “Who said anything about a carry gun?”

          He did. Heres’ the exact quote:

          “If two dudes show up unexpected at my home my wife or I will likely open carry.

          Emphasis added.

          Then you did…again…emphasis added:

          “Good way to let them know you have a gun and possibly more, that they could take when you’re not around to use it.

          Since he made reference to open carry at home, well, seems a reasonable guess that the “it” here refers to the gun he carries. {shrug}

          Yeah, he “may” have more guns, but then again, doing the statistics on household gun ownership, a blind guess any given home has a gun in it is not a bad guess either.

          Think you guys are worrying up a wet rope on this one…this “hidden danger” of home carry showing off to the BG’s your arsenal.

          Your mileage may vary, though. Carry on. Or not. Whatever.

      2. avatar WuzNtMe says:

        Drive by a really poor neighborhood some time and look at all the bars on the windows.
        Criminals will break into the poorest houses because they think there’s something they want inside no matter how unlikely. I really don’t understand the idea that someone is more likely to break into your home because they see you with one gun.
        When police are tasked with reducing crime in an area their first strategy is to increase patrols in that area. It’s a show of force. An intimidation tactic against criminals. I open carry around my house for the same reason. Sure, they know I have a gun but, they’re probably certain I also have a TV, a computer, etc. etc. At least they know I’m prepared and they might even wonder if I’m the only one on the block that is. If only my neighbors would also open carry, then we would have the perfect storm. Maybe these master thieves case my modest house and know when I’m gone, they aren’t intimidated by the ADT stickers and the barking dogs. They’re not worried about a neighbor calling the cops. BUT, they would also have to worry about the neighbors that are also armed.
        I just don’t think that the knowledge of a gun owner significantly factors into it for them…
        You wouldn’t hide the fact you have a security system…

        1. avatar Grindstone says:

          I really don’t understand the idea that someone is more likely to break into your home because they see you with one gun.

          Really? You can’t connect the dots between “owning a gun” and “chances of owning more than one gun plus related accessories such as ammo, mags, optics, etc”?

          At least they know I’m prepared and they might even wonder if I’m the only one on the block that is.

          Sure, you’re prepared when you’re around to defend your home.

          I just don’t think that the knowledge of a gun owner significantly factors into it for them…

          Study up more into how criminals choose their targets.

          You wouldn’t hide the fact you have a security system…

          Part of the instruction I posted above also involves knowing that criminals ignore those cute little signs you put in your garden. They look for wires on the windows, sensors, and cameras.
          Never underestimate your enemy. Never give them more information than you have to. Basic OPSEC stuff.

        2. avatar WuzNtMe says:

          Wow, you got really butthurt. You know people have opinions? If you don’t like me open carrying then you’re just going to be a sad little camper…
          Yes, I can connect the dots; you, not so much. Criminals don’t know any of that stuff is in any house. They’re going to look at my house and say “Damn, he might not have a $500 gun. Let’s pass this one up.”
          But, you think seeing one $500 item means there’s $1000’s inside and none of it is locked up.
          You’re the one contesting my opinion. You study and prove me wrong… While you’re at it, look up herd immunity and also try to explain why no data can be produced to suggest that people in states that can only open carry are uniquely targeted for burgleries..? You watch too much TV.
          If criminals (the kind that are going to break into a home for a TV and jewelry) plan so well then why do they break into ghetto houses…? Masterminds, I’m sure. The kind of criminals you’re thinking of aren’t coming after my $90k home even if it has a gun in it….

        3. avatar JR_in_NC says:

          “Study up more into how criminals choose their targets.”

          And you should as well, since you clearly don’t understand the process at all.

          Most crimes like burglary and street robbery are crimes of immediate opportunity, not big, planned events.

          Do you have some actual DATA supporting your hypothesis that criminals “see” a gun, associate it with a specific home and then specifically target THAT home?

          I’m guessing “no” and that this is just more Geezer Science like all the Open Carry gets you targeted nonsense.

        4. avatar Grindstone says:

          Good luck with that.

        5. avatar WuzNtMe says:

          Thanks, but I don’t need luck.

        6. avatar JR_in_NC says:

          “Good luck with that.”

          Cute. But that’s not data.

          I’m sticking with my initial guess…that you really have no idea if this is a real assumed risk or just a fantasy.

          By your logic, one would never let a BG see a gun, even in legit DGU’s, on the grounds of “OMG…Now He Knows I Has a Gun111!!!”

          Open carry, at home or elsewhere, is what it is. There is no real world data showing it creates all these bogeyman scenarios we too-often hear about.

    2. avatar PBK says:

      21 feet would be better than 10.

      1. avatar Danilushka says:

        Yes. Anyone heard of the Tueller Drill. You might want to look into it.
        It could save your life.

  4. avatar Gary B says:

    We are the only house in the neighborhood with those wrought iron bars on the windows and doors, They were on the house when we bought it in 2008, we did not remove them. We have a working alarm that will indeed alert the local police, my wife tried it by mistake and just a couple of minutes later the police were here. Interesting conversation. (They were not mad as we had not and do not make a habit of testing them)

    That said I home carry. I use a small 380 in the front pocket with a holster, spare magazine in my support side pocket. That is intended to get me to my loaded and chambered AR.

    No I’m not paranoid, I just worry a little more than most.

    1. avatar Gunr says:

      You don’t worry more than me brother! It’s scary out there!

  5. avatar Gunr says:

    Interesting post, I’m wondering, do you open carry around the house, and out in your yard? Did you have your pistol on your side when you went out to talk to the dudes in your front yard?
    Myself, I prefer to carry concealed , all the times, but of course, that is a choice for each individual.
    I carry a small 22 magnum revolver in my front pocket, 24/7. This would also work well with a swim suit, as long as you don’t go swimming, but of course you could wrap it in a sandwich bag
    I wear heavier hardware when I’m going out and about.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “I carry a small 22 magnum revolver in my front pocket, 24/7. This would also work well with a swim suit, as long as you don’t go swimming,”

      Jeremy S mentioned in his review on the NAA Mini that he swam with his.

      Crimped ammo would be a good idea or clear nail polish to seal the ammo…

      1. avatar Gunr says:

        The problem that I see is that the area in the grip is going to fill up with water, and if it didn’t all drain out quickly, It could impede the action of the hammer spring, which would soften the blow of the hammer, to cause a light strike, and misfire!

        1. avatar Geoff PR says:

          That’s possible.

          You can always drill a few drain holes in the grips…

          That’s also an idea for any TTAGers who own NAA Minis to test and report their findings…

        2. avatar John in Ohio says:

          Drill a drain hole, perhaps? I have custom made stainless steel flat grips and now you’ve got me thinking…

          ETA: Apparently, Geoff PR and I are thinking alike. 😀

        3. avatar Gunr says:

          The holes might work, but I wouldn’t want to take a chance. I followed the NAA blog for a while, and it seems that the hammer spring is the weakest link in these little guns.
          NAA has probably one of the best warranty policies in the business, BUT, Not only would they be horrified to see a bunch of holes drilled in their frame, I’m sure that it would nullify any warranty you had.
          I tried cocking and firing (unloaded chamber) my mini mag, while it was inclosed in a sandwich bag. It worked pretty well, especially after I took the sandwich out of the bag.
          now I have to get the peanut butter out of the cylinders.

        4. avatar John in Ohio says:

          @Gunr: I was thinking more along the lines of a hole or two in the stainless grip panels and not the frame. Or, even a notch in the lower part of both panels.

          Took the sandwich out… 😀

        5. avatar Gunr says:

          John in Ohio,
          I got you now. Actually, you could just mill a cutout most of the way across the inside of the grips.
          Glad I didn’t try to live fire my mini in the enclosed sandwich bag. Powder residue and flash burns really screw up a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, to say nothing of a 1/4″ hole through the middle.

        6. avatar Geoff PR says:

          “Actually, you could just mill a cutout most of the way across the inside of the grips.”

          Now that is an *outstanding* good idea!


        7. avatar John in Ohio says:

          That is an excellent idea, Geoff PR and thank you, Gunr. Unfortunately, I don’t know if that would work with my flat grips. They fit flush.

  6. avatar Joel from PA says:

    I carry constantly at home….wife does not….numerous items hidden around for her if she runs into any room. Where we live we have no family that visits…couple friends that we work with and due to our jobs, we always know when someone is gonna stop by. Doorbell rings twice per year. Normally neighbor girls selling cookies….any sound and we are on alert…oh yes, and a ten pound yorkie -pit bull wanna be alarm system….we got this covered in central PA

    1. avatar tom says:

      I’m all for the Yorkie or any dog as a deterrent. Mine just happens to be a 100# bull mastiff mix. They can also give you that split second advantage to get to your EDC and phone.

  7. avatar Cody says:

    I think I’ve home carried for the better part of a decade now. If you generally wear pants around the house, and pocket carry (I either tote a .32 seecamp or .22 mag NAA sidewinder), it’s just something you do and kind of forget about.

  8. avatar FedUp says:

    Yesterday I heard a LOT of gunfire from the house behind mine.
    It sounded like fun to me, so I tightened the drawstring on the swim trunks I was wearing, stuffed a Remora clad 1911 in them, and walked over to the neighbor’s house to see what they were up to. Had a nice chat with the neighbor’s son in law about his AR15, which was the source of all the racket. Since the shooting was already over, and pistols weren’t the toys of the day, I didn’t have any use for a pantsload of 1911. It did stay in place the whole time I was there, and while walking the 1/4 mile round trip between our houses.

    So, you can pack a full sized pistol in a swim suit, if you aren’t planning on actually getting in the chlorine laden water with it.

    BTW, a Remora holster is pretty versatile, but I cannot comfortably wear one for an entire day with nearly 3lb of pistol and ammo in it. If I wear it outside my undershirt it moves around too much throughout the day, and against my bare skin it irritates after several hours.
    It is great for figuring out exactly how much cant you want when you buy a real belt mounted IWB holster, and it’s OK for carrying a large pistol for an hour or two.
    I bet the Remora’s drawbacks would be a lot less important if I had a LCP380 or similar.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “So, you can pack a full sized pistol in a swim suit, if you aren’t planning on actually getting in the chlorine laden water with it.”

      A Glock would be just fine in swimming pool water.

      If you had the Glock Maritime Spring Cups installed and used waterproofed ball ammo you could fire it underwater.

      (Your miles may vary, etc.)

  9. avatar JackieO says:

    I have come to the fold later than some. Beginning in my late 50’s and am now 60. 35 years as a bricklayer has made me somewhat tough, but when asked by an LEO acquaintance at the club, why the epiphany to full carry I responded that I am not as tough as I used to think I was.

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      I hear ya.

      Every time I crash my bike nowadays it’s painfully obvious I don’t bounce nearly as good as I did when I was 20…


      1. avatar Stinkeye says:

        Have you tried not crashing? 😉

        1. avatar Geoff PR says:

          Stinkeye, sometimes you have to be aware of your general surroundings along with what’s immediately in front of you…


    2. avatar Former Water Walker says:

      Yep it’s my birthday today and I’m older than you. All kinds of problems.Getting old was a major reason I got into guns 5years ago. I was very large,very strong and intimidating .NOT anymore. BTW I use a fanny pack if I carry at home-you can put a large gun in it with zero printing or just throw it in your pocket. And being an OFWG I don’t give a damn being hip/stylish. I ALWAYS have a pepper blaster and a knife on me…

  10. avatar JWM says:

    I started to home carry when a series of violent home invasions happened in our area. A 62yo woman was shot in one. Suddenly, having a shotgun next to the bed, upstairs, did not feel so reassurring. Now, jframe in pocket and shotgun upstairs and downstairs.

  11. avatar TheOtherDavid says:

    No, I don’t usually tool up like this routinely – I’m trying out some different carry methods on a round-the-house day.

    But I have a 45 XDS appendix carry IWB, a Nano 9mm on support side IWB back hip for support-hand draw if needed, and an LCP 380 tucked inside a holster shirt. 2 mags of 45 in one front pants pocket, 2 mags of 9 in the other. Being a Glock guy forever it’s a revelation to carry these pistols, with the opportunity to stash single-stack mags in your pocket. Glock mags look like, well, Glock mags in your pocket (and, yes, I’m glad to see you).

    Weight isn’t a big issue but I threw some suspenders on over my t-shirt under my somewhat loose shortsleeve striped shirt just for a little extra support. Pants half-down is not a particularly sought-after fashion statement in this neighborhood. As far as concealed carry compromise, someone would really have to stare, and know what they were looking for, to notice anything.

    Maybe it’s because I carry any time I’m not in bed or the shower, but I don’t even think about it or notice it any more, any more than I would be of my glasses or my wristwatch.

    Hmmmmm….shower carry – maybe a heavy Ziplock style closure built into a waterproof Smart Carry / Thunderwear style holster…or a roll-top like you see on waterproof bags, although that would slow down presentation of the firearm. You could have skin-color-matching flesh-tone on one side, for concealment in the shower (you never want to give an advantage to an attacker, even while bathing. Speed, surprise, violence of action, right?), and an FDE camo pattern on the other side if you’re dirty and grimy in the woods while appearing in an episode of “Naked And Afraid.” Sort of a combat loincloth.

    Stick a ballistic plate in the front and we’re ready to go!

    1. avatar GreatPlainsSower says:

      “or a roll-top like you see on waterproof bags, although that would slow down presentation of the firearm.”

      Mine is a Taurus 44mag in a clear land nav bag like you suggest. To speed up the presentation I have it hung upside down so when I unsnap the clip the gun is in my hand within a moments notice of my door getting kicked in. I can unclip with my eyes closed to simulate soap in them, and the weight of the stainless 44 helps.

  12. avatar PeterC says:

    I’ve carried since I was 15. I always have at least one of several .380’s in my pocket, and a number of other larger guns stashed around the house and in the car. It’s no big deal.

    1. avatar S.CROCK says:

      I am curious did your parents know or care that you were carrying? Also was it to kill a snake in a rural country area or was it to not get mugged in the city?

      1. avatar PeterC says:

        It was in the early 1950s, when parents pretty much left you to your own devices if you weren’t burning the house down. I lived in a nice suburb outside of Boston. My carrying was precipitated by a number of young Hibernian gentlemen whose priest told them that I, personally, had killed Christ. They announced their intention to exact revenge, and I purchased a Model 1917 Colt revolver from a friend. My prospective attackers then decided to find other things to occupy their time.

  13. avatar Rick in NH says:

    I pack around the house, when walking the dog, and around town. Our dog was attacked by a pit bull (still in the neighborhood today) on a Sunday evening last year. $1300+ in vet bills was the result. The only thing that saved us was a stun gun flashlight I was carrying, I was hesitant to kill someone’s pet, but if the situation escalated….

    We have also surprised people walking on the road. One turned around and walked into the woods as we exited our driveway when walking the dog. The first question my wife asked was “Are you packing?”

    I hope to never draw my gun in anger, but I refuse to roll over if confronted by a self defense situation.

  14. avatar Mark N. says:

    If that guy had been for real, he would not have gotten in your face, but been polite and asked what he could do for you–or you could do for him (i.e.,”Do you know where so and so lives?”).

    I carry a lightweight 7+1 9mm in my front pocket very comfortably all day. More comfortable than an OWB holster even , which wouldn’t matter to anyone except my wife, since I work out of my house. Two spare mags and a loaded .45 in the desk drawer (with its own spare). I think I’ve got it covered for my neighborhood.

    1. avatar FedUp says:

      Can’t figure out why some criminal types, like Trayvon and the mystery HVAC man, try so hard to make themselves memorable. I thought it was the burglar’s job to blend into the background. If Travyon had just scooted off to dad’s home when he knew GZ had spotted him, nobody, not even the local cops, would have ever known his name.

      1. avatar Mister Fleas says:

        Entitlement mentality is one possible reason. Some criminals literally feel entitled to break the law and prey upon innocent people. That and they are idiots. For example, one young idiotic criminal here a long time ago kept breaking into an elderly woman’s home. She eventually learned the identity of the burglar and called the police on him. Shortly afterwards, he was seen carrying around a screwdriver in each hand. When asked why he was carrying a screwdriver in each hand, he said he was “going to kill that ****” that rightfully turned him in to the police.

        He literally felt entitled to commit multiple felonies, and was dumb about it too.

        With Trayvon though, he had a ghetto mindset. Zimmerman dissed him, and he reacted as someone with a ghetto mentality would he react. He physically attacked the person that “insulted” him.

        For more on this, I urge you and everyone else to reach the first item in this link. It was written by a former police detective:

      2. avatar Stinkeye says:

        Quite a high percentage of criminals, it turns out, are not intellectually gifted. Many, in fact, are completely stupid. That’s why they spend their time committing crimes instead of curing cancer or unlocking the secrets of cold fusion.

      3. avatar neiowa says:

        Drugs and the immediate “need” for more. Just remember pot is not a gateway (all the potheads say so).

  15. avatar John in Ohio says:

    I’m glad that you saw the light and moreso that you chose to write about it. Thank you and carry on.

  16. avatar racer88 says:

    Every ER doctor knows that nearly all the mayhem in the world is committed by “two dudes,

    I laughed at the “two dudes” reference as it relates to ERs.

    In the Navy, we called it “Two Dudes Syndrome.” Every sailor that came back to the ship having had his ass kicked… lacerations, facial bone fractures, contusions, broken / missing teeth, etc… had a story that usually began with, “I was just _______ (minding my own business, on my way to help at the soup kitchen, coming back from choir practice), and I WASN’T DRINKING…. and these TWO DUDES jumped me.

    I had one guy tell me that THIRTY DUDES jumped him. I told him he was lucky to be alive. 🙂

  17. avatar Jerryboy says:

    I’ve HC’ed off an on over the years, I currently don’t most of the time but I think I’ll start again, soon as I can find my damn pocket holster!

  18. avatar Gregolas says:

    Excellent thoughts Dan. My home carry has become more consistent recently. After a week at my house and then two weeks at my Parents’ house in FL with contractors going in and out and open/unlocked doors all day, home carry became second nature. Fanny pack carry allows me to work at the same time too.

  19. avatar bob says:

    I answer the door in a mankini with my 1911 in a shoulder holster, no issues yet.

  20. avatar Ralph says:

    In my home, I wouldn’t be caught dead without a snubby in my pocket.

    Wait — that didn’t come out exactly right. . . .

    1. avatar Geoff PR says:

      “Wait — that didn’t come out exactly right. . . .”

      See your doctor…


  21. avatar Johnny B Goode says:

    Get a belly band holster. The belly band works with your swim suit or even buck naked. If you really want to drown yourself with that Sig 226 a belly band will hold your gun securely until someone drags you out of the pool and removes the Sig from your body.

  22. avatar mike leffler says:

    A buddy of mine recently told me I was paranoid because I home-carry my LCP. I responded appropriatley with “you are an idiot.”

  23. avatar Chris M. says:

    I live on a gravel road on the edge of town. In fact, my property IS the edge of town. The road is a mile long and is a sort of shortcut between two bends of a loop in the county blacktop. Counting my home, there are fewer than a dozen houses on that road. With that in mind …

    I came home from work one day in 2007. The headline on the paper lying on an end table announced “Stabbing Victim in Critical Condition.” I figured it was another lovers quarrel between the local assistant county prosecutor and one of his lover boys and paid it no mind until my wife asked, “Did you see the address on that stabbing?” Huh? So I took a look. It was one of four Section 8 HUD houses just down the road, houses noted for, let us say, unregistered pharmaceutical entrepreneurship.

    Three men had knocked on the front door of one of those houses. When the occupant didn’t respond, they kicked the door in, dragged him out of the bedroom in which he was hiding, and stabbed him repeatedly in the back of the head, neck, and kidneys. He was left lying in a pool of blood in the road. Luckily, a neighbor had called the sheriff and the deputies got there in time to transport him the two miles to the local hospital. I shrugged it off as a dispute over pharmaceutical prices or quality.

    Two weeks later, the assailants were arrested and it turned out to be a simple case of mistaken identity. One of them had a lady friend who’s boyfriend tended to beat her and this guy decided to “teach the boyfriend a lesson.” The only problem was that he got the wrong address and stabbed a totally innocent stranger. When I read that I realized that they could just as easily have chosen MY house by mistake. I could have been the victim of a home invasion for no reason other than someone else’s mistake. Ever since, if I’m dressed, I’m armed; if I’m not dressed, there’s a gun within arm’s reach.

    That paid off last August when I heard a loud bang and man’s angry voice come from the front of the house. I went to investigate and found a large (6’4″, 250 lbs. according to the jailer) man lying just inside my back door which was wide open. It looked like he’d leaned his shoulder on it and fell when it popped open. By the time I had my cordless phone in hand, he’d mostly stood up, leaning towards the kitchen where I was standing. As I called 911 with one hand, I pointed my handgun at him with the other and told him that if he too one more step the decision was already made to shoot; just lie down and await Deputy Dan. He did and by that time the deputy was in my carport (neighbor had seen the man trying to get in and already called the cops.) I was on crutches following surgery and in no shape to take on a large, healthy assailant. If he’d taken one more step towards me I’d have fired. But if I’d not routinely been packing inside my home, I’d have been helpless.

    1. avatar Mister Fleas says:


  24. avatar Randy says:

    What kind of pussy feels the need to wear a gun in the house? And what kind of HVAC criminal puts his phone number on the side of his van and then answers the phone when you dial him? I foresee the author doing some prison time shortly after he shoots some kids father who is just in the neighborhood to mow someone’s lawn. The author sounds like every homeowners worst nightmare of a neighbor. Before I’m labelled a gun hater; I’ll say that I was ARA & RBA national champion 2005-2006. I’m an enthusiast in the purest sense of the word.

    1. avatar Danilushka says:

      See the post right above for the answer.As the famous saying goes, “where you stand depends on where you sit” or in this case, live.

    2. avatar Jason says:

      Not a gun hater necessarily, just a troll with a serious case of self righteousness, and enough arrogance to believe that your trophy means anything outside of that competition.

      Why carry at home? Statistically it’s where 100% of home invasions occur. While I’m sure you’re Chuck Norris’s younger cousin, not everyone is willing to gamble the lives of their family on their ability to win a brawl with assailants of unknown capability, equipment, and numbers. If you’re ok with that, then by all means keep your guns in a safe until it’s time to go to your matches.

    3. avatar neiowa says:

      And no one needs anything except a single shot .22LR target rifle tor the ARA & RBA shoot?

      So where is your fancy pants 10lb Anschultz .22? I mean right now/you need in the next 5 seconds to defend your child’s life.

      1. avatar Jason says:

        I find it particularly interesting that the matches mentioned were won by different people.

  25. avatar Danilushka says:

    !0 feet is not a safe distance to confront someone. 21 is the minimum and just barely safe if you are a fast draw.

  26. avatar Jonnyboy says:

    “And I have no idea how to carry when I am a swimsuit.”
    “…how to carry when I am a swimsuit.”
    “…when I am a swimsuit.”
    “…I am a swimsuit.”


  27. avatar Jim Bullock says:

    This right here is one of the core reasons, behind all the noise, why the anti-citizens having guns folks are, well, anti that:

    “The big takeaway from home carry so far: carrying around the house has made me realize how vulnerable I am at any given moment.”

    They are deep in a river in Egypt about how vulnerable we all are. We exist on sufferance – the agreement to treat each other decently.

    They also want some big daddy, mama, gender non-specific, semi-anthropomorphized, responsible but not accountable entity in the sky to make it all safe for them. Here’s the truth. You may get whacked in the head at any time. It’s unlikely, but at any given time, it may happen. The whacking may come from falling space junk, some bad guy free of forbearance toward anyone else, non-human instigated meteors, or, yes, your own biology whacking you in the head. You deal with these contingencies or choose to accept the risks as is. That or you are willfully a child.

    They are P O-ed because your carrying a gun yanks them out of the sound slumber in their crib.

  28. avatar Fuque says:

    Maybe im one of the few out there.. But home carry would never work for me… I’m mowing the lawn, working on irrigation, digging in the dirt.. planting my garden, weeding, painting the house, reroofing, working on plumbing, so Im crammed under a sink. all those things a guy has to do to keep up on house maintenance stuff… I keep nothing in my pockets when im working around my place. Wallet, phone, keys, p3at, all on the table if I gotta run to the hardware store, or whereever.

    1. avatar John in Ohio says:

      We have a farm. I do stuff like that and I’m armed while doing it. The only exception might be while under something like sink, tractor, truck, etc. Even then, the handgun is right next to me and an NAA mini is in the watch pocket of my jeans. (ETA: I guess I am technically armed with the NAA.) When I’m in one of the barns with a concrete floor, using a creeper makes it easy to keep the holstered gun on.

      Roofing, painting, anything standing up or sitting down is always while armed.

  29. The wife has been in our house for 31 years and we have been together for 16 years. We have noticed that the neighborhood has been changing. I have been carrying for the last 20 years and the wife for about 12. We both have been home carrying now for about the last 3 years. As I said the neighborhood has been changing. Better safe than sorry!

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