Irresponsible Gun Owner of the Day: Albany Police Officer Christian M. Mesley

.27 caliber fastener (courtesy

“A loaded handgun was reported missing last month by Albany police Officer Christian M. Mesley, who is a longtime firearms instructor for the department,” reports. “Mesley, formerly president of the Albany Police Officers Union and its umbrella union, Council 82, filed a report with the Bethlehem Police Department on April 10 saying he may have lost his gun two days earlier at an old quarry that’s used as an outdoor gun range by police officers . . . Mesley told Bethlehem police he recalled having the .27-caliber Glock pistol at about noon that Tuesday and couldn’t find the gun more than six hours later ‘when he went to locate the item.’ The firearm was loaded with 10 rounds of Speer Gold Dot Blazer 180 grain ammunition.” Yowzir! 180 grains out of a .27-caliber GLOCK? I reckon he was lucky to lose that gun. Even so . . . not cool.



  1. avatar Paul53 says:

    I always carry .9 caliber.

    1. avatar Jim says:

      Mine’s a 45 mm.

      1. avatar Gene says:

        My Rem 870 is a 12d.

        1. avatar Gunr says:

          My ex wife was a 36 D

  2. avatar RandallOfLegend says:

    I think they mean 270 GAP, a bottlenecked 40 S&W derivative. Gaston was tired of chambering a cartridge with Sig’s name on it.

  3. avatar Cookie says:

    27 cal Glock? Maybe a Glock 27?

    1. avatar Anon in CT says:

      Thank you Captain Obvious.

      Your room is ready now.

      1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        At the risk of making myself look foolish, I couldn’t figure it out. All I knew was there was no such thing as a .27 caliber Glock.

      2. All of these words are spelled correctly.

  4. avatar surlycmd says:

    I’m surprised it wasn’t a 27mm Glock brand Glock.

    1. avatar NYC2AZ says:

      I’d buy that for a dollar.

    1. avatar KCK says:

      What’s with the @’s showing up all of a sudden all over the place?
      Is that linking to twitter?

      1. avatar Marcus Aurelius says:

        For some reason TTAG seems to have lost the ability to reply to a specific comment on mobile devides, or maybe just android. So to respong to anonCT he had to start a new comment and point out who he was responding to and used ‘@’ to mean ‘at.’

        1. avatar Paranoid Android says:

          It’s the mobile site in general, there doesn’t appear to be a “reply” option for individual comments, only the article. That’s why I like the desktop site better and always switch to it.

  5. avatar Braenen says:

    Man… I need to upgrade. I have a .17 cal Glock.

    1. avatar True Patriot says:


      1. avatar Anon in CT says:


      2. avatar SteveInCO says:

        Why not? For months it was the only fricking ammo you could find plenty of.

        Now I know that SOMEONE makes a gun that shoots it; I did see an empty box of it at the range once.

    2. avatar IdahoPete says:

      Go for the .71 caliber – It only holds 3 rounds, but you generally only need one. 750 grains.

  6. avatar Desago says:

    Wow the advances in police force weaponry. I can only imagine the penetrating capability with 180 grain at .27 caliber. Besides the fact that it took him 6 hours to go “maybe I left my gun at the range, maybe I should go look for it.”

  7. Love my .762 caliber rifle.

  8. avatar ChrisF says:

    Now where did I put my 57 cal FNH……

  9. avatar Freeheel says:

    Someone from CCI better fire off a C&D letter to Speer super pronto…..

  10. avatar Pulatso says:

    At least he didn’t lose one of those 28mm FiveseveNs.

  11. avatar RockOnHellChild says:

    I want one of those .27 caliber Glock automatic pistols…

    Ten round, assault ghost, clipazine version, of course.

    1. avatar sagebrushracer says:

      and it includes a shoulder thing that goes up for free.

    2. avatar SteveInCO says:

      If it isn’t made of porcelain and costs more than I make in a month, I am NOT in.

      Oh, and it needs to be in the 40 watt range.

  12. avatar Frank Masotti says:

    No surprise another police officer is the irresponsible gun owner of the day. Again!

  13. avatar True Patriot says:

    Seeing how 180gr. Gold Dots only come in .40 s&w, and a Model 27 is 40 s&w, what was he drinking?

    1. avatar UpChuck.Liberals says:

      Drunk on power?

  14. avatar Ben says:

    Somebody should calculate how long a .27 cal bullet would need to be to reach 180 grains. Just for a laugh.

    1. avatar Tom in Oregon says:

      You read my mind!

    2. avatar RonO. says:

      The answer is (assuming a .277 bullet that is twice the length of a 90 grain .277 bullet, I know, it would be a bit shorter, but work with me here) … 1.702″.
      It would in fact be a bit shorter, what with an increased bearing surface, etc … but would have a Sectional Density of .335. Just a bit under a 650 grain 50 cal bullet.

    3. avatar Michael C says:

      A more interesting thought experiment would be to figure out what material the bullet would have to be made from to get a 180 grain bullet in a .27 caliber cartridge.

      1. avatar SteveInCO says:

        You would need a bullet with twice the specific gravity of lead to make a 90 grain bullet weigh 180 grains but be the same dimensions.

        Lead’s specific gravity is 11.9 (a lump of lead weighs 11.9 times as much as the same sized blob of water). So you will need something with an s.g. of 23.8.

        Depleted uranium comes in at 19.1 Tungsten and gold come in at 19.3. Platinum is 21.45. There are a few other things out there denser than tungsten, for example rhenium (21.02), plutonium (19.8), neptunium 20.45, iridium (22.56) and osmium (22.59) but nothing on earth exceeds 23.

        And by the way all the things I listed would be ridiculous to use for bullets for all sorts of different reasons. (Plutonium and neptunium are radioactive and expensive, almost all the others are hard enough to wreck your barrel, and expensive. Tungsten is just hard, though it can be used as a bullet core in a sabot or as shot. Gold would probably work well physically–it’s soft enough not to destroy your barrel rifling and/or cause an overpressure–but is (duh!) expensive.

        By the way, raw platinum nuggets HAVE been used as shot! That was before there was really a market for the stuff, in Russia in the early 1800s. The stuff was lying around on the ground here and there and not good for anything, so why not?

      2. avatar IdahoPete says:

        Unobtanium. Duh.

    4. avatar Ronaldo Ignacio says:

      My .27 cal semi-automatic Cobra fires a 2-1/2″ long steel penetrating projectile. Don’t know how many grains it weighs.

  15. avatar woody from ny says:

    The timesunion is my paper, I live and work in the Albany area. The timesunion is rabidly anti gun so it’s no surprise to anyone around here they would screw something up that’s so basic too gun ownership.

  16. avatar Ronaldo_Ignacio says:

    I have hundreds of those .27 caliber rounds on ten round clips for my semi-automatic Cobra…

    You can get a permit from the Fire Dept in NYC for them.

  17. avatar BoLo says:

    Must of been those new 6.8mm Remington GAP rounds I’ve been hearing about……………

  18. avatar archangel187 says:

    So much hubbub over one Mesley gun…

  19. avatar Zachary marrs says:

    Crap, not the .27 caliber vs. .9mm debate

    1. avatar Freeheel says:

      I see what you did there……

    2. avatar SteveInCO says:

      I flatly refuse to carry any caliber that doesn’t start with a .1 (i.e., the .10 mm), and the rest of you are pussies for thinking anything else can be adequate.

  20. avatar scooter says:

    I carry a .27 ‘cuz they don’t make a .28.

    1. avatar Freeheel says:

      Y’all are killing it.

  21. avatar harperusuck says:

    @true patriot….no, WIN MAG!

  22. avatar Zachary marrs says:


  23. avatar Kevin says:

    I think Mr. Farago needs to reread the article that he references here. It doesn’t say .27 caliber, it says “a .40-caliber Glock 27”.

    1. avatar SteveInCO says:

      I’d have to guess they got tired of being jeered at and edited it.

  24. avatar Greg in Allston says:

    Say what?

  25. avatar SamEnderby says:

    Does anyone know if the glock is rated for .27-caliber plus P?

  26. avatar Esteban says:

    I usually use a plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

  27. avatar DumbLefties says:

    Why do ladies with testicles have to be so dumb? .27 caliber…yay! Almost as cool as the new .380 Glock. Maybe they’ll make babies and we’ll have factory pink Glocks FINALLY! Go My Little Pony! YAY

  28. avatar Zachary marrs says:

    Kevin; they edited the article

  29. avatar Jared says:

    I don’t get it. It’s obviously a Glock 27. I mean the bullet weight is even correct. How on earth does this make him the irresponsible gun owner of the day?
    Sure he lost a gun, but really?

    Blame the writer of the article, not the officer for the caliber stupidity.

  30. avatar Petition For Redress says:

    Jared: the irresponsible award goes to the cop, and firearms instructor, who LOST a firearm, and didn’t even notice it was missing for 6 hours. It’s not awarded because the article was faulty.

  31. avatar stokeslawyer says:

    He is not irresponsible, how dare you. I searched the range myself and the only Glock I found was a .40 S&W. Whoever stole this officer’s gun was a professional, they were so thorough that they even picked up all of his .27 brass. It was like that gun was never there.

  32. avatar DaveL says:

    They do, apparently, make .27 caliber bullets in 180 grain. For .270 Weatherby. Now, making a handgun that will shoot it… well, does “Sons of Guns” have anything going on?

  33. avatar Alan Longnecker says:

    I can’t keep up with the Glock model numbers, but I think the Glock 27 is the extended barrel, over-sized grip version of their sub-compact .40.

  34. avatar Kurt says:

    Sounds like this was most likely a written report and the glock being reported as a model 22 which most officers carry and the second 2 looked kind of like a 7 as they often can. Someone read it and though it would make for a good story especially if it were a .27 caliber instead of .27 model or the truth of it being a model 22.
    Real stories PLEASE!!!

  35. avatar IdahoPete says:

    Why is that I never seem to be around at the local gravel pit after the PD firearms instructor has visited? Or never seem to use the bathroom in the courthouse right after a plainclothes cop has left his service auto on the TP dispenser? Poor timing …

  36. avatar HKfanTN says:

    Can someone calculate the number of clips there are in 10 rounds of 180 grain .27 caliber?

  37. avatar rooster says:

    That .27 cal Glock cartridge in the picture looks like it has lipstick on its mouth.

  38. avatar T.Miller says:

    Im a 30/32 myself. Should be a 30/30 but my left leg is slightly longer than my right. Since they dont make a 30/31 Im stuck. Shoot! Anyone seen my belt? Its about ya long, black, SOE brand, has a gun attached to it. Last seen 6 hours ago in a fitting room at Sears. I really liked that belt. Sure gonna miss it. No worries on the weapon. Its completely insured. But those damn SOE belts can take up to 8 weeks to get! DangNabit!

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