Stupid is as stupid does, but ‘stupid’ does not begin to describe the two yoots who brought a family member’s handgun to San Francisco’s Balboa High School. And then posted a selfie with it from the boy’s bathroom . . .
Their selfie was of course spotted by another student, because that’s why you post things on Facebook.
The other student promptly dropped a dime on the Dysfunctional Duo, and I (for once) kind of understand why they got ratted out. Snitches may get stitches, after all, but the classmates of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris got killed. Luckily these two weren’t Klebold and Harris. They were just Dumb And Dumber.
From the San Francisco Appeal:
The 16-year-old boys posed for the photograph last Wednesday around noon at a boys’ bathroom at the school, located at 1000 Cayuga Ave. near the Balboa Park BART station, police spokesman Officer Albie Esparza said.
The next day, a student saw the picture posted on Facebook and told an administrator, according to district spokeswoman Gentle Blythe.
School officials called San Francisco police and the students’ families.
The students were detained and searched, but no weapons were found on them, Blythe said.
The pair admitted to committing the incident the day before and they were arrested, Blythe said.
The boys have been “cooperative and forthcoming” in the investigation, Esparza said. They were cited and released to their families.
According to Blythe, it was determined the gun belonged to a family member of one of the students and that it does not appear the students were planning on using the weapon for any purpose other than for the photograph.
Esparza said police searched the home of one of the boys and found a rifle, pellet gun and the handgun used in the photo. All three weapons were taken into custody.
The family did not know the boy had taken the weapon and no family members were arrested in connection with the incident, Esparza said.
The two students are facing mandatory expulsion following the incident and arrests, according to Blythe.
I think the real answer to this problem is right there in front of us. And I mean ‘right in front of your faces at this very instant’: TTAG. If more teenagers read The Truth About Guns, they’ll know not to do stupid shit like this.
We need to get TTAG into every public school in the country, now. For the children.
Massad Ayoob endorsed him: http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2014/03/14/we-pause-for-a-brief-announcement/
Glad to see some actual common sense about open carry.
“I am For Mandatory Firearms Safety Education for Children in our Public School System.”
Exactly.
“yes, these are specifically the people who got the right to OC even an unloaded gun taken away from us in California”
No, the people who took away your rights are the legislature in California, because people dared to stick up for their rights and make others uncomfortable.
I don’t open carry, in fact, I don’t own a handgun. But I believe in the constitution and the bill of rights. The constitution grants us liberty, not comfortable situations.
Don’t do something massa forgot was legal because massa might get offended and ban it.
Don’t take your high-capacity magazines to the range because massa forgot they were legal and might ban them.
The drunks were to blame for Prohibition.
It’s cowardly and dishonest to not place blame on the anti-gun legislators in CA who are itching to ban anything gun-related that they can get away with.
“All three weapons were taken into custody.”
err, this implies anthropomorphism. It shoul read “All three weapons were confiscated.”
He has my vote – speaking as an OFWG Benefactor member of the NRA. Sure sounds like “common sense gun laws” to me.
I preferred method of holstering.
I toss my gun in the air in a way that it gets a nice spin going. It will then fall down and perfectly land in my holster.
OTOH the ROs are not amused and typically send me to Dairy Queen.
Fingers crossed. I’m a Hoosier.
To 16V: A fellow student showed the picture to school admins and they called the police.
“School officials called San Francisco police and the students’ families.”
The school admins didn’t kidnap these boys and lock them in the basement to torture them. They followed the standard procedure. Your “red-handed requirement” argument has no legal grounds.
Unfortunately for your argument physical photos have been used against students, and digital photos are admissible in court. On top of that the two confessed everything to the authorities. The same would, and has in the past, happened without any photo evidence. When I was in high school someone I knew was busted for pot they had at their house based on a rumor that got to the administration. At no level do you have an argument.
Gun owners need to lock up their shit.
Coolness(looking cool) is overrated and sometimes dangerous for lots of things gun related:
-Blasting targets 10ft away with your AR; looks cool on your youtube channel, but not when I’m being showered with your F’ing brass.
-For some reason people at the range like SLAMMING the magazines when loading their AR’s. Just load the weapon damnit…you hit that thing any harder, the upper receiver is gonna fly apart from the lower.
-That speed reload drill? You know, the one where you flag everyone on the firing line and ends up with you accidently throwing your loaded pistol down range? Speed looks cool, but me having to dive for cover doesn’t. I dont appreciate that.
-To the person that thinks its “Ok” to walk onto a “hot” range to retrieve their target: Stop. Looked cool on Blackhawk Down, but that was a movie and they used blanks, ’nuff said.
striker-fire? sure. DA/SA? meh. Sequence should de-cock, thumb-check, and holster, making it next to impossible to discharge inadvertently. I use the same sequence for a striker-fired pistol, even though the thumb check is meaningless, but with that type of action, I’ll for sure look to see what I’m doing.
There are a few of us old farts who still train with and carry SA/DA heaters.
Before the daily whining about the contest gets started, can I make one humble request? I do most of my TTAGing during down time at the office. I don’t know why TTAG makes it through the “no weapons sites” filter, but it does. KYGUNCO does not….can future such contests be run through an intermediary like the P22 contest?
These things travel in packs. Whatever gun I had it would need to be multiple shot. A .470 double rifle might kill the first two piggies, but the third and fourth porker might do you in.
Would also want a heavy caliber side arm for back up. You know these thing not only can kill you, but they eat what they kill sometimes.
Does it come with the Short Reset Trigger or does it have to be installed like the other P226?
These two young men broke a lot of laws and will pay dearly for there immature acts. They could not legally possess this weapon under any circumstances due to their age. This means they stole it from the relative and that relative did not have it secured either in a safe or with a trigger lock. In San Francisco that is a felony. If the pistol had a standard capacity magazine; that would also qualify for further charges since San Francisco has a 10 round mag capacity law in place. In fact to even possess a standard capacity magazine is a crime. The family is at risk, as well.
All schools are responsible for the safety of the students (public and private) while on school grounds, school sponsored sporting events on campus and field trips. And yes they will and commonly do expel students for behavior that involves criminal activity both on campus and off. Once these two are released from custody, and that might be awhile, they will have a difficult time getting an education since no other schools are likely to want them. Maybe a trade school, I think one still exists in SF?
My 2 cents…
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a lot of the things understand nowadays!!
I really think at this point that even maybe opening the registry again is politically unpalatable.
What I would like to see, more realistically, is SBR/SBS and suppressors removed from the NFA.
SBRs, ironically, would probably be the most likely of those three things to happen. SBRs aren’t really politically mushy, while “sawed-off shotguns” and “assassins’ silencers” are definitely media hype items. Either one are still way more realistic than MGs ever being opened up again.
I’d like a GLOCK converter and an A2 trigger pack, but, sadly, it cannot be so. Not now, at least.
Hey POTG – your weekend humor here. I think we *might* all take ourselves a little seriously here at times, speaking only for myself, of course, we might remember the old saying
“walk a mile in my mocassins” and forgive young guys
when they make a typical young guy mistake- like that picture…
do you remember when you were young, dumb, and full of ***
(comment partially moderated- hey this is a family site!)
ANYWAY- a non-LEO friend sent this, and I thought y’all POTG might like it.
Caveat up front- I am not an LEO, either but I know a few of them,
who I universally find to be good guys/gals, and generally pro 2A. YMMV.
I have met one or two in my past life who were A$$holes, but that was probably because they were giving me a speeding ticket. (ask me about that time east of El Paso…)
And since my wife often reminds me I can be an A$$hole, (“yes dear”)*
I have to admit, I could be wrong.
(I am not sure about the latter – there was that one time back in 2003 but oh well…)
Any way, here you go:
Southern cops have a way with words
These are actual comments made by South Carolina Troopers that were taken off their car videos:
1. “You know, stop lights don’t come any redder than the one you just went through.”
2. “Relax, the handcuffs are tight because they’re new. They’ll stretch after you wear them a while.”
3. “If you take your hands off the car, I’ll make your birth certificate a worthless document.” (My Favorite)
4. “If you run, you’ll only go to jail tired.”
5. “Can you run faster than 1200 feet per second? Because that’s the speed of the bullet that’ll be chasing you.” (LOVE IT)
6. “You don’t know how fast you were going? I guess that means I can write anything I want to on the ticket, huh?”
7. “Yes, sir, you can talk to the shift supervisor, but I don’t think it will help. Oh, did I mention that I’m the shift supervisor?”
8. “Warning! You want a warning? O.K, I’m warning you not to do that again or I’ll give you another ticket.”
9. “The answer to this last question will determine whether you are drunk or not. Was MickeMouse a cat or a dog?”
10. “Fair? You want me to be fair? Listen, fair is a place where you go to ride on rides, eat cotton candy and corn dogs and step in monkey poop.”
11. “Yeah, we have a quota. Two more tickets and my wife gets a toaster oven.”
12. “In God we trust; all others we run through NCIC.”(National Crime Information Center )
13. “Just how big were those ‘two beers’ you say you had?”
14. “No sir, we don’t have quotas anymore. We used to, but now we’re allowed to write as many tickets as we can.”
15. “I’m glad to hear that the Chief (of Police) is a personal friend of yours. So you know someone who can post your bail.”
AND THE WINNER IS….
16. “You didn’t think we give pretty women tickets? You’re right, we don’t. Sign here.”
No doubt people would buy them, if the market were open to new production for civilian sales. People already rent them, after all.
Overall, yes, full auto is silly and, yes, is a range toy novelty. But that’s assuming ongoing civil society, and not the backstop to tyranny scenario the 2A contemplates. Then again, if one is in violent conflict against the government, you wouldn’t seek approval for these weapons. You’d just alter your existing semi. For that G26, you can just replace the slide cover plate with a highly illegal conversion kit. Simple as changing a light bulb. Machining parts to convert AR’s and AK’s likewise would not be all that difficult.
In civil, lawful society, I just think we have many and larger firearms fish to fry, than select fire weapons availability and playing down at the range. I know, it’s our right and this is b.s. infringement. I get it. That doesn’t mean it’s a high priority.
My AK slidefire is the best 300 USD toy I’ve purchased and I can rock it. That said, I would prefer true, cheap full auto.
There was a previous comment that seems to have vanished … I was planning on responding to it, in agreement with it …
The basic point of the WSJ article was that boys are rewarded for trying to “take charge,” while girls are dismissed as being “bossy” if they try to do exactly the same thing. It has nothing to do with girls/women being bossed around by others.
In effect, TTAG appears to be trying to reinforce this stereotype by labeling a woman who is assertive (completely wrong with her position, but still assertive) as being “bossy.”
I would argue that calling Shannon Watts “bossy” isn’t as appropriate as calling her a bully, since she attempts to demonize gun owners and shut down any attempts at rational debate. “Bossy” is – per the WSJ article – a word that has been historically used to attempt to dismiss the leadership efforts of a female that someone doesn’t like. And that’s exactly what TTAG is doing here.
I’d stick with calling her a “bully” instead. More appropriate, IMO, especially since she’s trying to use that term against peacefully marching gun owners.
hhhmm normalization of gun ownership, say it aint so!
Watching Shannon R Watts have a hissy fit melt down = priceless…
Just Sayin….
if machine guns were made legal that would be awesome. i would try to buy as many semi auto ak’s and ar’s as i could. they would start rivaling the .22 ar look a likes in price.
No caption–just cue music: Battle Without Honor or Humanity