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Government’s Failures Will Make Biden’s Gun Control Efforts Much Harder

Joe Biden

President-elect Joe Biden pulls down his protective face mask to answer questions from reporters. (Kevin Lamarque/Pool via AP)

In states with secure gun rights, owners tend to be non-political and dedicated to recreation and self-defense, the study found. But restrictive laws prompt people to become resistant and to view their firearms as hedges against the state.

“The result is a few million people who are convinced that any genuine firearm violence prevention effort is the first step in a scheme to take away all of their rights and disenfranchise them,” groused Claire Boine, one of the BU researchers.

We saw the results just a few years ago in terms of massive noncompliance with “assault weapon” registration laws in Connecticut and New York. “Empire State gun owners are largely ignoring one of the signature elements of the watershed legislation,” the New York Daily News observed in 2015.

At the national level, if Biden blows the dust off the various proposals for bans, registration requirements, and other restrictions advocated by his party, he’s going to infuriate a great many Americans who view firearms as protection against threats to their liberty. That’s not new of course—prohibitions have always provoked anger and resistance. This time, however, many of the alienated gun owners scoffing at the law would be voters on whom the new president and his allies rely.

Government fell on its face in 2020 and left many Americans to arm themselves for self-protection amidst political turmoil and failing institutions. With a record number of guns in the hands of an increasingly diverse cross-section of the population, gun control just isn’t a serious policy proposal.

— J.D. Tuccille in Record Gun Sales and Diverse Ownership Mean Rocky Prospects for Restrictions

comments

  1. avatar jeff says:

    Serious or not it will happen, don’t fool yourself. The democrat party is anti-gun.

    1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

      Jeff,

      It is worse than that.

      This time, however, many of the alienated gun owners scoffing at [new civilian disarmament laws] would be voters on whom the new president and his allies rely.

      Apparently a substantial number of people are pinning their hopes on the notion that Democrats will ultimately back down because they need voters to vote for them.

      Newsflash: Democrats just proved in the 2020 general election that they can produce as many votes (via counterfeit ballots, ballots harvested without identity verification, and/or single legitimate ballots which Democrat poll workers feed through a voting machine hundreds of times) as they need to guarantee their desired election results. That being the case, why would Democrats give two $hits about voter sentiment? And the consequence: why would Democrats see any reason to back off on their civilian disarmament wet dream wish list?

      1. avatar Ing says:

        That is a legitimate worry. They may have decided that they no longer need voters’ permission to go about changing the world.

        Even if that’s not the case, they’ve done such a great job of destroying people’s faith in the voting process that they may need to start contemplating what happens when several million Americans decide they no longer need to wait for an election to remove certain politicians from office.

        1. avatar tsbhoa.p.jr says:

          like a nightingale.
          while stuck with 2yrs/ 4yrs there will be voting irregularities exposed during that time. of course, whether you ever hear about any of it, or safeguards being put in place is another t’ing.

        2. avatar Manse Jolly says:

          “….that they may need to start contemplating what happens when several million Americans decide they no longer need to wait for an election to remove certain politicians from office….”

          That is exactly what the political elite is doing right now. Yesterday they were made afraid and that fear is festering. They are suffering from all kinds of mental anguish and “what-if’s”.

          They are not used to fear, strangers to it because they have enjoyed the illusion of safety.

          And they will react by insuring this can never happen again by making sure the means to are taken away from everyone else. Strick Gun control attempts are coming probably on day1.

          Their fear will drive them toward no other direction.

        3. avatar Country Boy says:

          Winner Winner Chicken Dinner.

      2. avatar Ed says:

        uncommon_sense, you are 1000% right. The demorats could care less about voters. Once they pack the supreme court, it’s all over.

        1. avatar albert sand says:

          Oh Yeah that is fir sure , I agree .

      3. avatar GS650G says:

        Agreed. Dems are not interested in changing minds or converting voters. Now it’s red meat promises to their clan and a 50.1% majority rule.

        2020 proved you don’t need to pretend any longer. Just roll onto office and do what you want. None of them are going to pause and think about whether it’s constitutional or not. They think they have the moral authority and ethical prose to impose their will.

        Funny how 20 years ago the left accused the right of doing the same thing

        1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

          GS650G,

          2020 proved [Democrats] don’t need to pretend any longer. Just roll onto office and do what you want. None of them are going to pause and think about whether it’s constitutional or not. They think they have the moral authority and ethical [purpose] to impose their will.

          That there my friend is downright hyper-accurate and perhaps the largest problem that our nation faces at this point in time.

          And your simple, accurate, and poignant characterization reflects the sick mindset that is building against us: whether or not something is “good and right” or “bad and wrong” is a function of who does it rather than inherent, immutable, timeless standards of right and wrong.

          For example: call for a raucous mob to intimidate John Doe? That is good and right if the raucous mob are Democrats harassing a Republican — and a horrible wrong if the raucous mob are Republicans harassing a Democrat.

          Everyone scoffs at predictions of “re-education camps” coming soon to our nation. The very characteristic which I just described above virtually guarantees it. And note that many people are already trying to implement a “soft” version of re-education camps with recent concerted efforts at “cancel culture” — which of course is nothing other than trying to coerce, bully, and intimidate people into compliance with accepted Progressive principles.

      4. avatar Mark Are says:

        This guy has the answer….get all of law enforcement on the side of the people and against the politicians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJqNQ0Nu_44&feature=emb_imp_woyt

    2. avatar Ark says:

      Yup. Respectability or credibility doesn’t matter to them. They don’t serve us. They don’t care what we think.

      1. avatar Victor Connolly says:

        Frankly, I doubt that most of the current generation of politicians, regardless of party affiliation, are genuinely (let alone consistently) interested in what their constituency thinks, once they’re elected to office.

  2. avatar Jim Warren says:

    Hide some of ’em, especially if they were private purchases or family inheritances.

    1. avatar Debbie W. says:

      Well jim you can tuck tail and run to hide your firearms which at that point hiding your firearms will double your time in prison or you can man up and treat any and all home invading dirtbags exactly the same.

      1. avatar Jim Warren says:

        I know you have problems with reading comprehension, but I said “some” not “all”. What they don’t know you have, they can’t take. Give them anything you did a 4473 on.

        1. avatar Sheeple says:

          You sound like a very compliant sheep. Baaah!

        2. avatar I Haz A Question says:

          Jim is absolutely correct, and any wise gun owner (ESPECIALLY in the current environment) would take measures to protect his/her gear and liberty. I would dare to say many here on TTAG have already done so, and perhaps long ago.

          I certainly have. We’ve seen a slow degradation of government’s support of our rights over the past decade, speeding up over the past year, and falling off the cliff this past week.

          The time is coming…

          ****
          “A Republic, madam, if you can keep it.”

          We may be losing the Republic before our very eyes.

        3. avatar Florida Kracker says:

          @JIM WARREN
          Spoke to my LGS about just that he took me to the back of his store and showed me files (4473) from 36 yrs of business and said here ya go lots of file boxes gonna take a while. Only your electronic filings are easy to find Cabelas ,Field and Stream ETC there are an awful lot of gun shops, mom and pops and pawn shops that have a paper trail instead of electronic filing. So it’s going to take an awful lot of agents and an awful lot of time to go through records in 50 states. I’ve been in gunshops from Florida to Pennsylvania all using paper forms it’s not a simple task by any means and it’s not online with easy access. Thats why they want us to register them save them the work
          Food for thought I guess.

        4. avatar Shushynboy says:

          The ATF will bypass much of the 4473 paper trails and just confiscate ammunition sales data from Cabela’s, Wal-Mart and every mom and pop shop that takes credit cards. They will track you down unless they run into too much trouble. What agent will risk their life for a government that wants to defund them?

      2. avatar The Crimson Pirate says:

        Hide the ones you don’t want to risk losing. To replace them, as i ave said many times, there are plenty of guns in cop cars…………

        1. avatar Montana Actual says:

          And stations.

    2. avatar Country Boy says:

      Hide some of them my ass…hell hide all of them and the ammo too.

      1. avatar albert sand says:

        YEP !

  3. avatar Fun Gunner says:

    Trump may not last until inauguration day. His cabinet is discussing removing him now via the 25th Amendment.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-cabinet-discussing-invoking-25th-amendment-capitol-riots-2021-1

    Sent from my iPhone

    1. avatar Dude says:

      “His cabinet is discussing”

      Where is the proof of this? It doesn’t say in your link. I’ve read multiple articles about it and it never says where this rumor originated. The closest I saw was a CNN article that mentioned State Department officials. Officials are not cabinet members. I doubt Pompeo is behind this. We all know the State Dept. and DOJ are full of Trump hating political operatives. This is probably just another strike while the iron is hot to smear Trump operation by the media using DC “anonymous sources.”

      1. avatar hawkeye says:

        Well gosh, if Canned Nonstop Nonsense says it, what more proof do you need? Aren’t they kinda like the EF Hutton of news media?

      2. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

        Yet just another of the many Leftards wet dream.

      3. avatar jimmy olsen says:

        its fake news. u think after the last 4 years people would realize 99% of what the news puts out is 100% BS.

        1. avatar Dude says:

          Oh I know it is. I was trying to find out where the rumor originated. It’s the same thing the media has been doing for the past 4 years. They’re coordinating with democrats and using anonymous sources in order to get the national conversation going in a particular direction. Trump still has the ability to declassify documents and create special counsels. They’re doing their best to deter him from taking any action over the next two weeks.

    2. avatar Debbie W. says:

      fun twerp..Why don’t you hop on your fun tricycle and pedal up to the White House and make a citizen’s arrest?
      It never fails…Some nitwit poops in the ears of useful idiots and thinking they have something the useful idiots run to regurgitate it…pathetic.

      1. avatar LastOfTheOldOnes says:

        Debbie, I so enjoy reading your posts! Your choice of words is outstanding… 🙂

        Boch IS a twerp, but the sad part is, he is only one of many, many millions.
        But, once Dementia Joe and CamelToe start hitting their pocketbooks, there will be wailing from the libtards, the like of which even God has never heard….

        1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

          As soon as Biden forgets what day it is, Commiela will hand out her pre-prepared laminated lists of mandates to all agencies, and the madness will ensue.

          “He [she?] has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”

      2. avatar Fun Gunner says:

        Debbie, I posted a link to a news article and apparently triggered you into spouting insults. You fit right in here.

        The only tricycle I use is the landing gear on a Cessna, but thanks for the suggestion anyway.

    3. avatar Bigus Dickus says:

      If the government types really do want an armed civil insurrection the by all means remove the president.

      1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        Bigus Dickus,

        It would not surprise me for a nanosecond to learn that hundreds of politicians and government employees want an armed revolt in the U.S. — which they would use as justification to increase their budgets, staff, surveillance apparatus, and hardware. Of course we cannot forget their most coveted prize of all that they think they could acquire in an armed revolt: more control and restricting our rights even further.

        1. avatar Craig in IA says:

          “It would not surprise me for a nanosecond to learn that hundreds of politicians and government employees want an armed revolt in the U.S…”

          If you firmly believe this, and I’m not making judgment on your statement, it is obvious that great numbers of 2A supporters need to begin constructing a bridge to both military/guard members as well as LE personnel BELOW the command levels, for the most part. There needs to be an approach made to the ones that would be in charge of putting down actions of unrest and remind them that they will not always be in uniform. Some day they may want to continue exercising the rights and liberties currently “available” after they “disembark”. Should they actively participate in the disarming and trampling of the Second Amendment they will no longer have those options and will have to contend, as older, wiser civilians, with the boot from the current regime on their own necks.

          It’s not difficult to make the case for LE and service personnel to contemplate ignoring the unconstitutional orders which may be given them in the future during times of unrest. It’s also wise to point out that they should not constantly look through the eyes of a 20-something kid- learn to view the entire picture. As they are all volunteers and probably have more in common with 2A people than they do their Academy leaders (who generally have little in common with regular Americans any longer), I don’t think making this argument would be all that difficult with many of them. At least plant the seed, there is no law against that.

          I’m in personal contact with many in the LE field and I can’t think of any I know who would mindlessly follow orders that would deny people their rights. Your neighborhood may well be different, but what have you done to try to make inroads with any of the first level responders? We should celebrate and promote those, especially elected sheriffs who are already on record as stating they will not comply with unconstitional orders from “above”, and we should, in a non-theatening manner, put that same situation to all our sheriffs and any of our cop friends. If you have none I feel sorry for you. I hope you will have a similar and frank conversation with any family members you may have within the US military in ANY capacity .

          When times really get rough we expect our LE and military folks to follow their training, but exactly to whose training are we referring? The training we gave them while they were growing up by educating them on the process that became the greatest nation ever founded, or what some non-combat, polished “leader” orders, which is likely counter to everything they should’ve learned before they enlisted?

  4. avatar Andrew lias says:

    What is in question more than anything is the compliance we will see. My bet is low from individuals given the poor tract record of the government the last few years to decades.

  5. avatar D.B. Cooper says:

    Oh they are still coming for them alright, its one of the central planks of their party after all and we are talking about people who blatantly and now apparently without any recourse stole an election to accomplish their goals.

  6. avatar Shire-man says:

    Government has a knack for selectively enforcing based on your politics.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if more people from yesterdays office trespassing are locked up than three years worth of BLM/Antifa looting are arson.

    So don’t take governments unwillingness to go after lefties as an indication of how they’ll go after righties.
    They gunned down Finicum in the street. Sam Weaver in the back. Vivki in the head as she held her baby. Broiled children alive at Waco.

    If your politics aren’t right they’ll eagerly kill you.

    1. avatar muckraker says:

      This! ^

    2. avatar Scott says:

      Many of the protesters, who invaded the Capitol were actually ANTIFA as identified by both facial recognition software and recognizable tattoos. That was a false flag operation by ANTIFA!

      1. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        Scott,

        Let’s say it was an ANTIFA false-flag operation. There is an extremely high probability that it will not matter: deep-state government, legacy media, and Big Tech. will go to great lengths to suppress/hide the truth and saturate us with the desired false narrative.

        It is becoming ever more difficult to access the truth, and for good reason.

      2. avatar RxDoc says:

        Totally agree,Scott. As Antifa had promised earlier, they waited for the right time to infiltrate a couple of hundred Antifa provoking asshats to start an assault. Whether they were financed by the Soros/China controlled Dems, with or without CIA/FBI knowledge, or the coup driven DS Cabal, is still to be seen. Either way, it was planned, not a spur of the moment attack.

      3. avatar Plinker says:

        All other Trump or Republican rallies had a counter-protest in the neighborhood. This time, however, there was no counter-protest. I wonder where they were? Do you think they got a few flags and hats as new costumes? Of course they did. The same tactics were used as in Portland, Minneapolis, and Seattle. Will that ever be reported on CNN? Nope.

      4. avatar Miner49er says:

        So Ashli Babbit was an Antifa agent, who knew?

  7. avatar Dude says:

    Joe Manchin just became the most powerful member of Congress.

    1. avatar JP Ruiz says:

      Same with Tester.

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        As long as the Republican 50 include Romney and Toomey, they cancel out any help we might — MIGHT — receive from Manchin and Tester.

        1. avatar GS650G says:

          Toomey is a huge Rino. He disappointed a lot of people who supported him.

  8. avatar doesky2 says:

    I forgot where I stored my guns.
    I’m just going to sit back, relax, and teach my kids some words and put the record player on.

  9. avatar former water walker says:

    So how long before the scum shuts down TTAG?!? After 3 years of “Trump is a roosian agent” to “we had a fair election with zero corruption”…shut up peon!

    1. avatar JP Ruiz says:

      My first thoughts this morning were about the internet and overall media. “The Squad”, through Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, flaunted “Disinformation Removal Laws”, aka,……Communist China Style Government Censorship of All Media.

      The FCC would be given authorization to ban IP Addresses and ISP Registrations, like this entire website; it would just vanish and no longer exist.

    2. avatar Dude says:

      Yes. This. We can only question certain topics. Who’s the wannabe authoritarian again?

      They won’t shut down TTAG. They’ll only shadow ban them on mainstream search engines and / or google will remove their ad revenue ability. Google has already been doing that to sites that participate in wrongthink. The other main social media sites will follow suit. Pretty soon, no new people will discover the site, and it will wither and die. That’s their goal anyway.

      1. avatar I Haz A Question says:

        This.

        As I prepared to watch the Senate session yesterday, I noticed that YouTube had filtered out all conservative channels. Only Yahoo, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, Washington Post, CNN, ABC, PBS, etc. My feed did not contain OAN, Newsmax, NTD, or even Fox. I had to go directly to their channels or websites.

        Big Tech has been given the keys to the kingdom.

    3. avatar Miner49er says:

      Have no concerns, there is no way the alphabet agencies would shut down TTAG, it is a much too useful source of information.

  10. avatar Gov. William J Le Petomane says:

    You shouldn’t expect people to take you for your word when you seize power through fraudulent elections.

    1. avatar Dude says:

      Where was George W. Bush telling the country to move on and accept the 2016 election since there was zero evidence of Trump colluding with Russia to steal the election? Hmm

      Why did we have to “investigate further just to make sure” then, but not now? These questions should be considered by every political affiliation.

      1. avatar hawkeye says:

        There can still be lawsuits, and perhaps criminal prosecutions, and state legislative action, even if President Harris, er I mean, Biden, is a done deal. I’m kinda wondering whether removing the pressure of becoming the guy who overturned a national election, may cause some judges to become more willing to look at the evidence and rule accordingly.

        Bill Whittle talks about the idea of being forced to hold the coat of the man who is openly molesting your child, and having to watch while he does it. That is a graphic but apt description of how at least half of America feels. We will never be able to “unsee” it, but perhaps some prosecutions, penalties, and legislative action will ease some of the pain.

        1. avatar Dude says:

          They still won’t allow any peaking behind the curtains. Someone might find something. And since when do we allow cheaters to audit themselves? Would the IRS let me do that if they accuse me of cheating?

          UNITED STATES v. THROCKMORTON. October Term, 1878

          “fraud vitiates contracts”

  11. avatar JP Ruiz says:

    Listening to the MSM Democrat Party Propaganda Politburo Scumbags this morning, the Democrat Agenda Items first on the docket are as follows.

    1). End the Senate Filibuster.
    2). Repeal the Trump Tax Cuts and Raise Taxes even more than what they Campaigned on.
    3). Paris Climate Accord and using the EPA to get some of that “Green-New-Deal” going.
    4). Reinstate the “Individual Mandate” of Obamacare.
    5). Amnesty and Open Borders
    6). COURT PACKING.

    Once they get #6, that’s when the transformation into the USNK (United States Of North Korea) begins. The CCP Democrat Party will then drop it’s drawers, and unload it’s collectively s***-packed rectum onto our Constitution and Bill Of Rights.

    1. avatar Anymouse says:

      It’s the breaking point if the Dems think 16k votes in one state means that they have a mandate reform the government to match their fantasies. They may have the legal power to do so, but that doesn’t mean 50% of the population will stand idly by. People accept it that their side loses sometimes. They won’t accept that they’ll never be allowed to win again.

  12. avatar TheUnspoken says:

    “I dunno, we just do some common sense, smart thing like requiring all citizens (except some preferred excluded ones) to register or turn in lawfully acquired property magazines or assault rifles, and those crazy right wing people refuse to comply or start complaining that we are infringing on the second amendment. Why don’t they just roll over and obey? We support the second amendment, we had a shotgun and hunted a couple times back in the old days, and no those mass shooter weapons of war must be removed from the street. Why don’t you agree with us again?”

    – some Democrat, according to the article

    1. avatar Victor Connolly says:

      “Why don’t they just roll over and obey?” Like this poor fool?

      https://youtu.be/n6Lyeeq17fY?t=13

  13. avatar Debbie W. says:

    Before he thinks of going full blown dictator democRat Jim Crow Gun Control joe needs to prove to 75,000,000 people the election was fair and square. Good luck with that.

    There is more than enough suspicion to conclude there are Rats and RINOs in the woodpile and they let that be known after they put on new underwear and returned to the White House.

    Just because there have been no arrests does not mean there was no election fraud. All this hurry up and get the swearing in done only adds to the suspicion. Whether or not Jim Crow Gun Control joe is accepted is how 75,000,000 disenfranchised voters feel about it.

    I suggest joe not upset people anymore than they already are…Those behind the election fraud are now those with blood on their hands and under their feet. Knowing that some in congress talked like finger pointing kids making excuses for breaking a neighbor’s window. Not looking good…joe.

    1. avatar GS650G says:

      That would be the smart strategy. But look who is taking over.

  14. avatar JB says:

    The Republicans Surrendered. It was a disgusting show of slobbering weakness. Pence was the keystone and he decided to abandon his President and half of America.

    Pence also set in motion a hot revolution by Patriotic Americans who will fight to the death to stop the Biden Communist regime from destroying America. The sooner the fight begins the sooner America can be cleansed of Communist Traitors and government rebuilt.

    To do nothing is to surrender. Surrendering means a total and complete communist takeover of America. Packed courts, 2 new Communist states will be added, A neutered 2nd Amendment and bans on all semiautomatic rifles, National gun registry, and thats in year 1.

    Open borders and open prisons come next. China will own America. Our children will be brainwashed into Marxism.

    These are things I will not accept. Half of Ameica wont accept it either.

    1. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

      “Pence was the keystone and he decided to abandon his President and half of America.”

      Pence’s spine melted away he is done in any form of conservative politics, perhaps his Leftard pals will welcome him with open arms.

      1. avatar Their inner circle says:

        Too many dinners at John Roberts house.

        1. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

          ROTFLMAO!

  15. avatar 2a sux sucks says:

    This is not going away because they will not do anything about the election fraud.you can only call people bigots, racists and Nazi for so long before they get pissed off. That’s what the Democrats have been calling us for 4 years and they are just as responsible as Trump

  16. avatar Ray R says:

    Biden can suck my fucking Conservative dick.

    1. avatar Green Mtn. Boy says:

      If not him ,I hear that is a speciality of Kami the Commie. hoe.

      1. avatar Victor Connolly says:

        Just ask Willy Brown… 😏

  17. avatar Brodirt says:

    Has government ever learned from its prior mistakes?
    We’ve had countless prohibitions that have cost the Govt a fortune, infringed on the citizenries freedoms, transferred wealth to organized crime and cost even more to undo and yet the Govt continues to propose them. FFS, the evidence of the failure of the AWB is plain to see and yet they continue.

  18. avatar possum says:

    20 January 2021, China smiles.

  19. avatar SK Skeeter says:

    I had an argument with a liberal member of my family. I told them about the planned registration via taxation by Biden.

    They asked me why I didn’t want the government to know what I had. I told them the same reason they didn’t want Donald Trump to know where all the guns were.

    They laughed, but I thought I saw a glimmer of light in there when I said that we don’t know who will take over after Joe leaves.

    I also said no matter how bad you think it is, it can always be worse.

  20. avatar Matt in Oklahoma says:

    It’ll be done same way as yesterday
    https://streamable.com/3uoocq

    1. avatar LastOfTheOldOnes says:

      Yes, it has begun and it will last until everyone of the current crop in power has been eliminated.

      It will be anarchy and destruction for a loooong time…. Get ready..
      Antifa and BLM were just a prelude.

      In the movie Dune, Mua-dib said “WE HAVE ENTERED THE TIME WHEN ALL WILL TURN AGINST US AND SEEK OUR LIVES”

      1. avatar Umm . . . says:

        I’ve always been partial to “We will kill until no Harkonnen breathes Arrakeen air,” myself.

        1. avatar LastOfTheOldOnes says:

          hEHEHEHEHEHEHE…..

          Another favorite: “We have worm sign the likes of which even GOD has never seen.”

        2. avatar Umm . . . says:

          “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer . . .”

        3. avatar Klaus Von Schmitto says:

          Before we’re through with them, Democrat will be a language spoken only in Hell.

        4. avatar Umm . . . says:

          Klaus,
          I salute your Halsey reference, Sir, and (as a Navy vet) hang my head in shame that I had to look it up😯

    2. avatar Roger J says:

      It ended attempts to break through those doors.

      1. avatar Dude says:

        Do democrats approve of this? So now shop owners get to do the same thing during a mostly peaceful “protest,” right? Or, are some people more equal than others?

        1. avatar Matt in Oklahoma says:

          You already know they are now more equal. You see it in the link

      2. avatar Miner49er says:

        So the protesters violently smashed their way into the building, and were assaulting the last door before the legislative chamber.
        That looks like a federal protective service agent, as the last line of defense using lethal force.

        And you’re saying she was an Antifa agent, wow.

        I can tell you that no FPS agent is going to let those violent insurrectionists into the room with the Congress people.

        If she had only ceased her attempts to gain unauthorized entry into the restricted area and complied with the agents instructions, she would still be alive.

  21. avatar beaky says:

    the law says your AR 15 lower is the “firearm”. if and when simply strip your guns down, hand in the lower. Now is the time to stash an unregistered lower in your closet

  22. avatar Ralph says:

    Basement Joe and the Bus Stop Ho must be crapping in their panties after the Capitol protest. Those two insurrectionists thought that they owned the streets through the “mostly peaceful” arsonists of BLM and Antifa. Now they know that people on the right are ready, willing and able to fight back.

    The fear will either scare them off or energize them to disarm people before they can organize a defense. Either way, there will be a reckoning.

    1. avatar Dude says:

      BLM: Six months of protesting. They take out Foot Locker, Walgreens, Best Buy, and Wendy’s.

      A few Trump supporters protest in one day: They take the Capitol Building. The Senate is evacuated.

      If only they would have chanted the approved message and burned, looted, and spray painted their approved messages, Kamala would be telling us how important it is for them to be heard, and that it’s time for this country to, “Have a conversation.”

      1. avatar Ralph says:

        DC Metro police say that four protesters are dead. One, an Air Force veteran, was shot by the cops. Three others died of a “medical emergency.”

        Well, I guess that being capped by a cop is a medical emergency with a capital E.

        1. avatar Dude says:

          Died of a medical emergency? When isn’t it a medical emergency? That sounds like code for “we don’t want to talk about it.”

  23. avatar Anon says:

    Dan,
    I disagree. They will come for them. The MSM and Democrats and others will use the riot in Washington, DC as an excuse. Witness the attack on firearm braces.

    The attack will be to stop any checks and money you receive til you give them up. That is one of the reasons to eliminate money. They won’t send the police…..do you want to pay your mortgage, taxes, food and medical? Give them up or we will stop the flow of money to your bank account.

    The other attack will be on ammunition companies.

    Good luck

    1. avatar UpInArms says:

      ” The MSM and Democrats and others will use the riot in Washington, DC as an excuse ”

      The demonrats made it pretty clear a long time ago that they don’t need any excuses. Their arrogance and contempt for the people crossed that line already. They’re at the point now where they believe they can just do whatever the f**k they want to do. Hopefully yesterday’s patriot action put a dent in that notion.

      On a personal note, the image of Nancy Pelosi running down an escape tunnel in terror for her life has been putting a smile on my face all day. I can just hear those little high-heels going clickety-click with Chuck Shumer right behind her. “I don’t have to outrun them, Nancy… I only have to outrun you.”

  24. avatar 2aguy says:

    They don’t care to pretend anymore…..they have the votes, they are going to pass every single gun control law they have wanted for decades and the newly packed, democrat party Supreme Court will all make it legal…………..and those who might say that Joe Manchin of Virginia says he won’t go along with that? LOL……..Democrats to joe…if you don’t vote to pack the court, you lose all of your committees, your district loses all the pork, you lose all money from the DNC, we will primary you, and every indiscretion from Kindergarten to today will be leaked to the press with permission to use it to destroy you…..Does anyone think manchin has a spine?

  25. avatar Miner49er says:

    Things are really looking rough for Donald Trump, even the Chinese communist party is pulling his handler and cutting him loose:

    “Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao, the wife of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), is resigning in the wake of Trump supporters breaching the U.S. Capitol Wednesday.

    “Yesterday, our country experienced a traumatic and entirely avoidable event as supporters of the President stormed the Capitol building following a rally he addressed,” Chao wrote in a statement. “As I’m sure is the case with many of you, it has deeply troubled me in a way that I simply cannot set aside.”

    I’m guessing they’ll keep Ivanka and Jared on the payroll, they still have some useful life left in them.

    1. avatar Anymouse says:

      You think Chao is a CCP handler? What kind of racist f*ck are you? I see no comments from you about Biden’s CCP connections. What are your beliefs? What do you stand for?

      1. avatar Miner49er says:

        Elaine‘s family runs $1 billion shipping industry out of Communist China, that’s a matter of public record and they have contributed millions to Mitch‘s campaigns.

        What evidence do you have that Joe Biden has any criminal connection to China whatsoever?

        1. avatar UpInArms says:

          ” What evidence do you have that Joe Biden has any criminal connection to China whatsoever? ”

          Hunter Biden. ‘Nuf said.

        2. avatar Miner49er says:

          Your vague answer means you have no evidence and are embarrassed to admit the deficit.

          Certainly you have some document or source you can cite to support your vague hunter Biden claims, right?

          Or is it just more empty speech from Trump supporters?

        3. avatar UpInArms says:

          ” Your vague answer ”

          Only vague to you, wanker boy. Maybe this is the year mommy will let you out of the basement and wear some long pants.

        4. avatar Miner49er says:

          More vague bullshit and you attacked me personally.

          You have no evidence, just hatred and bigotry.

    2. avatar LastOfTheOldOnes says:

      “Things are really looking rough for Donald Trump”
      and the 75,000,000 people that voted for him.

      Discarding 75,000,000 deplorables with guns as if they are trash is a quite insane and retarded thing to do.

      Bu then, Libtards are not known for their logical prowess, and will be shocked, I say shocked, by the coming amounts of angry responses from the formerly silent majority. We are sick of your patronizing snickers, and these snickers will be wiped off all your faces. 🙂

      1. avatar Miner49er says:

        No one is discarding 75 million deplorable‘s, they just voted for the wrong candidate and lost the election.

        Y’all had your day in court, over five dozen cases before local, state, federal district, federal appeals and supreme court and you prevailed in zero cases.

        And now, at trumps exhortation, his supporters committed a violent attack upon the United States capital during a joint session of Congress deliberating our presidential election. This was an intentional conspiracy to disrupt the normal process of government and the peaceful transition of power as directed by the United States Constitution.

        Your conspiracy was conducted in order to perpetuate the illegal and unconstitutional continued occupation of the office of the presidency by Donald Trump, after his loss in the national election, as certified by the 50 state legislatures.

        It is sedition, baby. Bank on it.

  26. avatar Hannibal says:

    there may have been non-compliance with state assault weapon bans but that didn’t stop them

    There won’t be a door to door confiscation. But being turned into an (unindicted) criminal is not a good thing.

  27. avatar SQWRLZ says:

    Good to see another cross-posting from Reason.com’s very pro-2A “2Chill” (Tuccille).

  28. avatar Miner49er says:

    “Gaetz was more specific Wednesday night when he cited, on the House floor — and to loud boos from his Democratic colleagues — an article from the Washington Times, which has since been removed from their website. The article said that a facial recognition firm, XRVision, “claims Antifa infiltrated Trump protesters who stormed Capitol.”

    The Florida congressman began by saying he didn’t “know if the reports are true” but went on to cite the Washington Times article, saying it contained “compelling evidence” that Antifa had infiltrated the Trump-supporting rioters’ ranks.”

    More disinformation.

  29. avatar UpInArms says:

    Here’s a look at a near-perfect analysis of what went on yesterday. Oddly enough, Counter Punch is a left-of-left website so it’s a bit surprising to see this much wisdom packed in to a short article. But… y’all can judge for yourselves…

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/07/smash-and-grab-politics/

  30. avatar Miner49er says:

    Now we learn that the insurrectionists killed a Capitol police officer, federal law mandates the death penalty for cop killers so that should prove entertaining for you capital punishment enthusiasts.

    Here’s another perspective to the orderly protests at the United States Capitol:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Esu1U6QE3A

  31. avatar Miner49er says:

    President Trump remains laser focused on his most important priorities, his intense concentration allows him to avoid being distracted by the violent insurrection at the United States Capitol and keep the most important issues top of mind:

    “Just one day after his supporters rioted inside the U.S. Capitol, President Donald Trump went back to business. And by business, we mean golf.

    POTUS awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to 3 professional golfers on Thursday — retired stars Annika Sorenstam and Gary Player, as well as Babe Didrikson Zaharias, who died in 1956.

    The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the nation’s highest civilian honor … which the White House describes as an award given to those “who have made especially meritorious contributions to the security or national interests of the United States, to world peace, or to cultural or other significant public or private endeavors.”

    Player and Sorenstam were slated to receive the award back in March … but the event was pushed due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

    The ceremony is normally open to the press … but not this time around.

    Of course, that most likely has to do with the events that transpired in D.C. on Wednesday … with hundreds of pro-Trump supporters invading the Capitol Building.“

    In other news, Nero fiddles while Rome burns.

  32. avatar Alan says:

    Elected Things have been known to respond to pressure from constituents. Of course, exerting the referenced pressure might even require taking some time from viewing the sporting extravaganza of the moment. Gun owners, there are millions thereof, have to make up their minds about what is more important. It’s that simple.

  33. avatar Miner49er says:

    This should prove very interesting, I suspect many in President Biden’s DOJ will be eager to investigate these crimes thoroughly and present evidence to a grand jury.

    “DC Police has 81 rioters in custody, with more expected to be charged as authorities continue to identify and search for suspects. They are from states all over the country including Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Alabama and Oregon.
    Acting US attorney for DC Michael Sherwin said ‘all options are on the table’ for charges against the rioters as he revealed prosecutors planned to file 15 federal cases for crimes including unauthorized access and theft of property. He said 40 other cases have already been charged in a District of Columbia superior court. The first few defendants charged in the chaos appeared in DC Superior Court on Thursday.
    The FBI and DC Police have released photos of members of the violent Trump mob wanted on federal charges for storming the US Capitol.
    Former FBI Deputy Assistant Director Danny Coulson : “The attack on Capitol was instigator-generated. It didn’t just happen. There were people there that came to do it and generated it and caused this horrible mayhem.”

  34. avatar Look at (phantom0288) online Italy was involved in the steal!!! says:

    New Italian confirmation of hack into our election!!!% look it up!!!

    1. avatar Miner49er says:

      You are right, there’s no use in trying to hide it anymore, we have been caught with our hands in the cookie jar! I am so ashamed…

      “BREAKING: 🚨Italy and Obama are guilty of rigging the election. @SidneyPowell1 evidence dropping about Italy’s part in stealing the election for @JoeBiden

      I’ve listened to an audio tape whereby the entire process was laid out. @POTUS is aware.

      SteelKRAKEN! Ann Vandersteel
      @annvandersteel
      This is the piece needed to deliver hard evidence on how votes were changed. Affidavits are key

      Our State Dept interfered. Many govt agencies interfered. This is bonafide proof Obama is involved. #treason“

      Ciao!

  35. avatar Victor Connolly says:

    “…if Biden blows the dust off the various proposals for bans, registration requirements, and other restrictions…” You mean WHEN ‘progressive’ congressional Democrats (along with Kamala Harris) DEMAND that Dementia Joe blows the dust of the aforementioned, right? SMH

  36. avatar FB says:

    They now have every means to destroy the constitution period. I can guarantee by the end of January, they will sign the Assult Weapons Ban. On top of that, they will expand on semi-auto weapons.
    Now that they have a death grip on the House and Senate, they will continue to cheat the elections and stay in power. In 2024, Harris will be re-elected as president.
    I was never concerned during the Obama presidency. Today I have never been so concerned.

    1. avatar FB says:

      Assault Weapons Ban rather

    2. avatar Miner49er says:

      You are so right!

      Apparently, Switzerland is not the only country that played a major role in the international hacking operation against the US election.

      In the latest article published on this blog, the Swiss-American author and researcher Neal Slutz has explained how Switzerland has had a fundamental part in the international coup against Trump.

      Switzerland has recently bought the sole rights of Scytl, the company tied to Dominion Voting System which, according to several statistical analyses, had switched hundreds of thousands of votes from Trump to Biden.

      Switzerland perfectly knew about the structural flaws of Scytl but it failed to warn the Trump administration about the technical malfunctioning of this software.

      However, there is another country that could have had an even more crucial role in this story and that country is Italy.

      So Italy and Switzerland know about vote fraud perpetrated on Americans but American media doesn’t cover it? Well what did you expect? The coup is happening in America.

      Here is another version of the story. An employee (Viking helmet guy) of the 8th largest global defense contractor, Leonardo da Vinci SpA, provided a shocking deposition detailing his role in the most elaborate criminal act affecting a US 2020 Presidential election.

  37. avatar Connor H says:

    Neither Trump nor Biden is fit to hold office, neither is a friend of the 2nd amendment, and the Rs in congress havent prioritized pro gun legislation in over a decade.
    Please don’t make sweeping generalizations about ALL liberals as if they were a monolithic group with the same beliefs. All liberals don’t want to take your guns and “destroy the constitution”; liberal elites, on the other hand, and specifically the gun control PACs (Giffords, Everytown; MFOL, etc.) do in fact want to take your guns. Presenting factual statistics and arguing the data is our best argument; going full blown tinfoil hat “stop the steal” mode is counterproductive to advancing 2A rights.
    Hell, half of Republicans support an AWB; Dems are in the 80% range, but that math tells us that more than 1 in 4 people who oppose an AWB are Dems.
    We are losing the messaging war. Please do not alienate those who may agree with and support our cause before things even get heated. Hearts and minds, guys.

    -A concerned young liberal 2A advocate

    1. avatar Miner49er says:

      You’re wasting your time, these people are a lost cause, filled with unreasoning hatred.

      America gave Trump and his supporters a chance, and now we have the full measure of their profanity and violence.

      Don’t worry, sane and reasonable American citizens will keep their 2A rights.

      But the Trump supporters who participated in and supported their Insurrection and violent attacks upon the government of the United States of America will lose their rights and suffer the consequences of their betrayal of the constitution.

      Your bullshit Q&Anon is nowhere to be seen, but that sound you hear is the FBI setting up a perimeter around your nest.

    2. avatar Victor Connolly says:

      “All liberals don’t want to take your guns and “destroy the constitution…” TRUTH. As evidenced by the following ‘left-of-center’ (or relatively liberal) gun rights groups:

      http://www.pinkpistols.org/
      https://theliberalgunclub.com/
      https://socialistra.org/
      https://naaga.co/
      http://jpfo.org/

      Unfortunately, the aforementioned organizations have neither the membership numbers (let alone the resources) needed to exert the level of influence that the NRA, or even GOA (at least historically) have been able to. Furthermore, it doesn’t help that the majority of voters under the age of 30 (especially in urban and ‘progressive’ enclaves like California) keep reflexively voting for the same arrogant, condescending, ‘hoplophobic’ hypocrites every election cycle.

  38. avatar We need “America First Party” 80+ million supporters and more will vote by paper in person only! says:

    The old regime is useless! We need another way! Just like Lincoln did in his day!!!%

  39. avatar Mark Are says:

    We The People need to realize that those who enforce the laws are typically middle class working people who take on the job of law enforcement. They aren’t rich, they aren’t living in million dollar homes and their job is to enforce laws. What if we the people could get them on OUR side by teaching them about natural law and what their job SHOULD be in lieu of what it is. What if we could get them to realize that their job should be PEACE OFFICERS as they were years ago and not blindly following edicts of psychopathic control freak politicians that want to shove their edicts down our throats? What if we could convince these officers nation wide that there can only be a CRIME if there is a VICTIM and they ALL refused to “enforce” anything but laws that deal with VICTIMS? Well, the idea is growing and I think we can make it work and if THEY refuse to enforce these unconstitutional, ungodly EDICTS made by psychopathic control freaks, we will be in a land of free people again. Why not check out this video and see what you think…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJqNQ0Nu_44&feature=emb_imp_woyt

  40. avatar Alan says:

    “Government fell on its face in 2020 and left many Americans to arm themselves for self-protection amidst political turmoil and failing institutions. With a record number of guns in the hands of an increasingly diverse cross-section of the population, gun control just isn’t a serious policy proposal.”

    The above comment excerpted from the article notwithstanding, the usual gun control proposals, some new ones in addition, will be offered and they will be pushed.

  41. avatar Charlie Noble says:

    Overly-simplistic bullshit.

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