According to cbsnews.com, “Police were warned that the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter had threatened to kill his mother and students before the 2012 massacre, according to newly revealed FBI documents. The agency on Tuesday released more than 1,500 pages documents on the investigation into the mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 26 children and teachers dead.”
Click here to read the FBI docs. We’re poring through them now.
I want to know when the tipster talked to the police, exactly what was said, which police officers knew of the threat, whether or not and how they logged the tip, and what, if anything, they did about it.
Somehow I don’t think that information will emerge. The FBI docs are heavily redacted. The media seems just as disinterested in — and gullible about — the local police’s actions as it was in the killing’s immediate aftermath.
Meanwhile, that same mainstream media reports that Adam Lanza’s obsession with mass murder was no secret, at least to one interviewee . . .
An unidentified woman said she was in contact with Lanza for more than two years on a gaming website dedicated to the 1999 Columbine High School shootings. She told investigators that Lanza kept a “spreadsheet, meticulously documenting the details of hundreds of spree killings and mass murders”.
She described him as “depressed” and “isolated” and someone who viewed death as an “escape from his joyless existence.”
Make that two interviewees. chicagotribune.com quotes a different source who adds this crucial detail to the above account:
She said Lanza believed mass murders were a symptom of a broken society and may have believed he was “saving” children from the “harmful influences” of adults during the school shooting.
I wrote it back in the day, I’ll write again: Adam Lanza was an obviously and profoundly mentally ill teenager who was rejected and neglected by the mental health care system, the Newtown school system, his father, his mother and now we learn the police — all of whom knew of his condition. Many of whom knew Adam Lanza had access to firearms. At least one of whom knew he planned to murder his mother and kill innocent children.
And yet the “debate” following Sandy Hook focused on gun control. Go figure.
NPR guy crawled out of his cave and saw the sun for the first time only because he had nothing left to keep him in the cave.
LOL
If this is true, someone local to Sandy Hook needs their balls nailed to the wall!
“profoundly mentally ill” BUT NOT RETARDED ! His level of mental jacked-up-ness was obviously not a hindrance to him getting around (much less running circles around his parents, the FBI, and CT 50).
At least it’s not Blyat tech.
Another Shield, the model with a safety
It would be very interesting if Everyday Carry or TTAG would analyze what guns people post in order of popularity
AL was abused by the system the used by the system for gun laws.
You get another boring article.
A bit of info on Thunderbird:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XNWA_yZvWo
Soooo……once again, if this reporting is accurate, we have a street rat crazy guy who was–this is becoming a cliche–“known to police”, is that right? Surprise, surprise. I’l bet that somewhere in the documents we’ll find that nobody did anything because they were afraid of being called anti-retarded people.
Lanza sounds like a perfect example of what would be a good use of involuntary temporary commitment for evaluation, possibly long term commitment.
“But….but…..pre-crime!!!!!!!” Shut up.
He’s a whacked out, sociopathic, walking freak show, obsessed with death and murder, and now reportedly expressing homicidal intention and ideation. Lock him up until we’re reasonably certain he won’t mow down first graders, and 20 little kids would be in middle school today.
Or do nothing, and watch the demographic shifts in this country install a permanent, implacable, one party government antithetical to any exercise of firearms freedom.
A common occurrence: the former liberal, enlightened by the knowledge and narrative outside what NPR, CNN, et. all tell him to think.
A unicorn: a former conservative who decides to reject reality and facts and become liberal.
“The Mainstream Media Continues Its Cover-up” N O T _ A _ S H O C K
Hillary paying for Russia “Pee Pee” Dossier N O T _ A _ S H O C K
The POS MSM is evil (D)
Every problem we are forced to talk about is evil (D).
FBI / CT / Sandy Hook – ALL PART OF THE PROBLEM AND THE PROBLEM IS PART OF THEM
“doing noting makes all who knew complicit”
You’re right there. The other bit is our (sometimes kneejerk) reaction to being demonized and blamed for the evil other people do for so long.
For some gun stores this is just a logistic impossibility. There is one near my house that is very big for a gun store. They have 100’s of guns (both long guns and handguns). Putting aside the number of safes (or secure cabinets) and floorspace they would use, the time it would take to put all those guns away at closing, and take them back out at opening, would be well over two hours each day. It would not be worth the time and money.
In addition, moving all those guns twice a day is going to end up with some cosmetically damaged. That’s going to cut down on the retail value of them.
On the other hand, I know of another gun store, that’s very small, where they lock every gun up in a safe at night. However, they probably have less than 30 guns out on display at any given time.
Thinking about the suggestion that the guns be cabled, wouldn’t be with the money or effort. A common cable through the trigger guards of long guns, isn’t going to be much of a deterent. Any thief, worth a damn, will have cased the place and brought bolt cutters to defeat that in short order.
One possible solution, for long guns, would be an in-rack locking system for each gun, similar to the systems police have in the cabs of their vehicles, for securing their long guns. Something like that would force the thief/thieves to have to defeat a lock for each gun they wanted to steal. If nothing else, it would reduce the number of guns that could be taken, given the time constraints of a burglary.
The rifle rack locks seem to be something effective and cost friendly. Still, the handguns apparently are the most attractive to thieves. Despite the cost, those should be inaccessible during non-business hours. Insurance companies should be clamoring for more security, or at least higher cost for liability and loss for those customers who fail to eliminate all but the most destructive attacks (explosives.
I own a Golden Boy .22 and I love it! I would like to get a larger caliber Henry, maybe I can win one!
Would really like to own a Henry, heard so much about them.
I would Love to own a Henry. I got a Henry Book, always looking through . I was in an accident over 10yrs ago and haddock to sell my Guns. I hope and Pray I Win This Wienchester . .
JS
At the current US annual murder rate, it will take approximately 1,000 years to reach the total murdered by Stalin during his reign.
I’ll take gun rights over tyranny any day.
Note also that the US is the second SAFEST country in the western hemisphere and yet has the least gun control (to my knowledge).
Not only is the US the 2nd safest country in the Western hemisphere, the US is the SAFEST afro-latin country in the entire world. We have more latin residents and citizens than many latin countries, and we have more African-Americans than some African countries have citizens.
Adam Lanza was the scum of the Earth, a piece of human excrement and a cancer on all mankind.
Come to think of it, he had all the makings of a TV anchor.
Who EDCs an old school P&S 35mm film camera? Is it a secret carrier for something else with the insides gutted?
Poor guy, got mugged by some inconvenient truths. Now none of his friends will talk to him any more. (Bonus?)
As for the rest of them, I wonder … If an NPR-ite has an opinion without visiting the woods, does it still stink?
TL:DR
UpinVT says: “TL:DR”
But still has the time and expends the effort to show everyone he/she is lazy.
Nothing is 100% secure. If people want to get in, they will. My father – who had some real time experience with the real deal in 1944 – reminded me that the entire German army couldn’t prevent General Eisenhower from breaking and entering the beaches of Normandy. You can slow down an intruder and make it harder for him, but you can never stop a determined thief – or liberator as the boys of the Big Red One were in those far off days
“Nothing is 100% secure. If people want to get in, they will.”
Taking a bit of a risk, here. Do you understand you just made the case for having no security atall?
If seriously enabled security is pointless (because determined people will still “get in”), and negligible security is pointless (because determined people will still “get in”), then “no security” is just as effective. Perhaps you’ve determine an optimal point between pointless and not so pointless.
Would love to owne one ! I always fantacyde of owning one after seeing the movie Winchester 73 when I was a kid
Damn wrong article:
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…In speaking about conspiracies…Has anyone heard anything new regarding the Las Vegas incident…? Maybe we should ask Sharon Watts…!?
Get USCCA, it’s better.
.357 Airweight is an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp. Even for a diehard Smith weenie like me, it’s just way too much cartridge in way too little gun.
“David Hemenway (not shown)”
That’s not ol’ Dave? Are you sure?
Okay, so open each class with “don’t kill yourself and don’t beat your wife.”
A basic class need not be anything more than “if you diddle this lever a bullet will fly out of this hole.”
That’s about as basic as basic can get but the way the mandatory requirement states keep piling on hours and hours of must-do time instructors are having to stretch the basics way past the point of usefulness and all too often way past the scope of the instructor and what you end up with a class of newbs leaving with a head full of bullshit.
You missed something about this bit
“Svigals + Partners designed the outside of the school to include a long walkway through a rain garden, intended to help the school ‘deter, detect and delay’ potential intruders.”
Even if no attacker(s) are smart enough to turn that into a killing field against first responders, it will significantly delay them.