TTAG reader Jim writes: “This is a really stupid prank to pull in America. It’s no wonder they filmed this in NYC. This kind of prank can get you killed by a regular citizen pretty much everywhere else in our country. In Europe, not so much, but if I were to encounter such a scene in my city, I can pretty much guarantee that my weapon would be drawn. Please note that this is NOT a social experiment study, as some folks have suggested, but rather a viral video to promote the new movie Dead Man Down, in which I believe a similar type of murder takes place.”
The vast majority of these people are complete cowards. Typical Americans these days sadly.
Typical NYC’ers. Don’t lump the rest of us in with those sorts.
In today’s NYC verion of 1984, supressing the second ammendment BOLSTERS the first amendment. If these “artists” were afraid of getting shot (or even kicked in the face by G) how could they express themselves?
I’ll bet most of them were waiting for Mayor Bloomberg to show up and tell them what to do. All hail the Great Nanny State!
I don’t suppose this plan is approved:
1) don’t call police
2) shoot intruder until dead
3) put corpse into chipper shredder or firepit
4) fertilize garden
5) Clean house
6) go back to normal
Going on the idea that most criminals are human flotsam and won’t be missed by anyone.
Also I hear ADT is going to change it’s policy and when the perp trips your alarm, rather than letting loose with a siren and ringing ADT, the alarm just lets loose 2 shotgun blasts into the air….cause that stops crime, dontcha know. Maybe if we just go around and loose shotgun blasts into the air, everywhere we go, we can eliminate crime?
If you want an AR-15, get an AR-15. If you want an AR-10, get an AR-10. If you have true, no BS fiscal constraints and still want both this might be an option if they work out reliability issues.
Otherwise, nut-up and get both. Can’t go wrong with an MRP and MWS combo and you won’t spend time converting each time you need to switch. Dedicated long range power and fast 5.56 handling both on tap the moment you need them. If you’re in a state that allows it, a 5.11 double rifle case also does the trick for vehicle carry.
I’m not sure I’m buying the explanation here. DoD has their own contractor operated plants to produce ammo so I’m not buying that they are the source of the shortage. Non-military agencies however must buy commercial. Anyone else think that the fed is limiting our supply and driving up prices by buying billions of rounds that they don’t really need through DHS?
My first instinct might be to draw and shoot to stop the attack with a clear shot, but in Kentucky, it could be assault/manslaughter to do so.
Kentucky law allows a “reasonable belief” of a threat to life or limb(*) when defending oneself, but requires absolute correctness when defending a third party. In this case, even if it looks like the guy is being choked, he really isn’t, and the law provides no defense.
I don’t think an honorable person just walks away, and if you are facing a career criminal or professional, you’ve magically become the next target. IMHO, doing nothing is not a good option. I just can’t imagine I’m walking away from this one without trying to do something.
I’d rather face a judge for assault in this case than face a family after not helping in a real murder case.
(*) You can also prevent rape or sodomy. So, when your attacker threatens to shove something in parts of you where the sun doesn’t shine, and you believe him and are reasonable in doing so, the “lethal force” genie is out of the bottle.
I just wish their shipping rates were so ridiculously high!
I am hesitant for similar reasons to buy a brand new model from manufacturers i’ve heard of, let alone a make with which i have no experience.
Join the rally at Capitol in Hartford on march 11, 2013 @10:00AM
I dont understand the point of waiting periods. If a background check takes ten minutes, what is the point days to follow? Im not saying it is supposed to make sense, though I guess before computers and the internet it did.
OK, I’ll take an anger management course – God knows I need one after all the nonsense going on – as long as all politicians take an IQ test before taking office.
Goshdarnit, anonymous, you beat me to it – good for you.
Does the time spent waiting on back orders count towards the three-day waiting period?
People like her really don’t give a shit either way. To show accountability they need to look like they’re doing something–something about anything. Gun control just happens to be the easiest train to ride right now.
Sounds like a backdoor to adjudicating ammo buyers as being mentally ill. State mandated anger management would, of course, be added to a database which would then be referenced during background checks. As this is remediation for a genuine psychological issue, you would essentially be voluntarily committing yourself if you buy ammo, as far as the graders are concerned.
Yes, the legislation is offensive and discriminatory. All that is beside the point. This is a creative new approach to achieve the antis’ agenda without directly being about firearms.
I doubt this thing could pass, but I won’t hold my breath.
Mr. Ernest Tews’s line of thinking is disgusting and offensive to anyone who has bothered to study the Constitution, but I’m afraid it is also very common.
Leave it to a freakin’ hipster wearing jeans 5x too small for his doughy frame to wip out his iPhone to snap a few pics for his instatwit page rather than getting his hands dirty and stopping a potential murder in progress. Talk about the neutering of America. God bless New York.
A prime example of why we NEED constitutional carry. In some parts of this country ain’t nobody gonna come to your aid when you’re in trouble.
To answer your final question…no.
The thing about trying to limit or restrict ammo purchases is that responsible, hobbyist gun owners tend to go through way more ammunition on a way more regular basis than someone who:
– Buys a gun to commit a crime, or
– Works in law enforcement (but is not a hobbyist gun owner)
“I would add the idea that any new owner of a weapon must also go through the training a police officer takes for carrying a weapon, and the new owner should be re-qualified at least as often as a police officer.”
So, by NYPD standards I have to be able to hit innocent bystanders when shooting at a “target” about 10 feet from me. Got it.
Alos, unlike a lot of things that police are allowed to have that we can’t, I am pretty sure that anyone with enough scratch and access to a large supply of diesel can buy an MRAP for themselves. I don’t know if the military is selling any surplus, but if not I’d think Navistar could hook you up. It’s a truck with a lot of armor and structural upgrades.
Now the M2 .50 cal accessory package is another issue . . .
Guns don’t kill people, only people kill people! (with a noteworthy exception…)
“Get revenge”
Huh? Doesn’t getting revenge imply that one was previously wronged?
Robert, Robert, Robert… sigh. I see I have to teach you Deutschspraeche in addition to all manner of gun technica.
The proper nominative is “Das Vaterland,” because in German, compound nouns take the gender (der – masculine, die – feminine, das – neuter) of the last noun (or “root noun”) in the compound.
So while “Vater” (father) is “der” (masculine, as you’d expect), “Land” is neuter, or “das,” und so, “Vaterland” is a “das.”
Now, if this were a masculine noun, we’d have to get into the fact that “for” (or “fuer” in German) is an accusative preposition, which would make the definite article “den” (pronounced “dane”), but let’s not worry about that just now.
While we can argue that the Unemployed Watercolor Artist could have had a better linguist working on that neuter issue, making it a fem noun makes it lose all it’s punch…
unless we’re going to start talking about subtle references to Dear Leader’s Big Sister, who heads up the DHS. 😉
This is an even better story than the Mass. police dog using a crime gun to shoot at an occupied house. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/04/17182916-police-dog-searching-for-handgun-accidentally-pulls-trigger?lite
Obvious frame-up job. Everyone knows that shotguns kill more people than ARs, but NooOOOOooo – the “hunting” gun just points a finger at the evil Black Rifle and it gets the blame.
Let’s hope NBC doesn’t start hosting a car-related show or they’d have to drop it within five minutes when a drunk driver kills someone.
Oh, you mean it’s about corporate cowardice and agenda-driven insanity and nothing remotely logical? Never mind.
Something which gets lost in the CCW or Concealed Weapons permit debate are those like me. I am a former military (NOT retired) and former Police Officer (also NOT retired). I have 14 yrs street patrol duty experience. I have a contract on my head from a street gang, but because I did NOT retire as a police officer I had to apply for a Concealed Carry Permit. While I do not necessarily regret having to do so, I do wonder what happened in that split second from being a highly trained and respected police officer to civilian that suddenly relegated me to being a maniacal raging, untrustworthy, irresponsible, indiscrete, serial killer?
Would I, armed, run to the sound of the guns again? Well, did firehorses ever quit getting agitated when the fire bell rang? Only when they changed the bells to tickertapes or so I’m told.
How is this germane? Because, as a police officer in my state, there were no gun free zones for me! Now, I cannot visit my doctor (who belongs to the same gun club I do) without securing my firearm in my car. He cannot carry in his own office!
Schizophrenia in the form of “feel good” “look what I did for you, now vote for me” anti Seond Amendment laws!
Dumb!
And HOW do they have money for TANKS (any amount) What cuts?????, and as i said we have a government of lies, for lies , and lie about everything always , WHAT A pack of dirty, dirty RATS they are …. in fact real rats only want food , the D. C. rats want ALL your Bill of Rights… not just 2A , DRONES are a all out attack on your 4A rights … WAKE UP AMERICA !!! they hate the American way and people ……………WAKE UP ………DRONES are for killing you ,,, You … WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!
Mr. Potterfield and Midway just can’t seem to do no wrong. You and your company sir, are our friend. And yes, proud to have bought from you. Will continue to do so. THIS is what a real supporter of the 2nd Amendment looks like. NOT Cheap and dirty…
“We’ll have the feeding sorted in five to ten years. NBD.” Welcome to government contracting.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
I just received my first gun and started looking online for a good conceal holster. Once I found Crossbreed and starting researching, I have read NOTHING but good and outstanding reviews. I also have heard nothing but great things about Mark Craighead. I wish I had been able to meet him. It seems that would have been an honor. My deepest condolences to his family AND friends (many I imagine), and my God be with them all. He is now in good hands himself!
NO! This site was supposed to stay a (relative) secret! Geez can’t a guy get a line a little surplus every once in awhile…
I avoid New York (sorry folks – it’s a little crazy over there for an born-and-raised Ohioan), but that sounds patently awesome.
This is certainly true. My sister—who is white as a sheet, by the way—narrowly avoided being attacked by three men when they came to believe that she MIGHT have a gun in her purse (she did not). She reached in her purse to get her hand around a little (non-functional it turned out later) canister of pepper spray, and left it there—one of the guys says, “She’s got something in her purse!”, and they decided to go attack someone else.
Those guys sure as hell weren’t worried about pepper spray… not three men… all that would do is get you raped even harder. They had to play a game of “you bet your life” over the contents of my sister’s purse and they decided to take a pass.
That’s the reason I advise people to carry in their pocket, or if need be, purse… it lets you “brandish” without actually showing the gun. It lets you walk down the street with a gun in your hand if that’s how nervous about a situation you are. You’ll never get a gun out quicker than the one that is already in your hand.
Gun banners obviously never even bother to consider that the presence of firearms in people’s homes and/or purses and pockets is deterring crime. With an estimated per household rate of gun ownership over 50% one would have to assume that the effect is significant.
It seems to me that New York is a liberal paradise. Full of politically correct progressives surrounded by greed, violence and apathy. What a disgusting cesspool of human depravity! And the very people who deprive the populous of the guns needed to protect themselves, have their own armed security. Everyone else has the “security” of knowing they are protected by some of the toughest gun laws in the country.