BREAKING: Illinois Concealed Carry Amendatory Veto Overridden



On the last day before a federal court order to enact a workable concealed carry law would have, by default, allowed constitutional carry in the Land of Lincoln, the House and Senate took Governor Sockpuppet’s Pat Quinn’s amendatory veto and wished him a hearty ba fungul.

And with that, Illinois joins the rest of the nation by, at long last, recognizing the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution and putting in place at least some form of concealed carry.

Is it all it could be? Of course not. This is Illinois, we’re talking about. The most corrupt state in the nation. And with competition from locales like New Jersey, New York and California, that really means something.

But it’s a huge step forward, particularly for the downstate population who’s chafed under the iron-fisted control of Chicago for decades. It’s been a long time coming. Click here for the details of the approved legislation.


  1. OMG! There are already reports of numerous shootouts all over the state! Won’t anyone think of the children! Potatohead, Tiny Dancer and the Street Light Assassin were correct. It’s the Wild West!!!

    Illustrating Chicago’s Murders, Homicides, Violence and Idiocy at

    1. Holy crap, I just laughed out loud over this. 😀

      1. avatar pk in AZ says:

        + 100,000,000!

    2. avatar Lemming says:

      Any reports of cats and dogs sleeping together?

      1. avatar Mike Crognale says:

        “Women stampeded and cattle raped!”

    3. avatar Avid Reader says:

      I would love to have seen the looks on the faces of those three when it became obvious to them they would lose on this.

      The comment fields on Second City Cop’s blog will be entertaining for the next few days.

      1. avatar Robert Farago says:

        If you could monitor same and send us links I’d be much obliged. [email protected]

    4. avatar Pat says:

      Stupid effing ‘Sickago’ and its criminal political leaders are pulled (kicking and screaming) into the light of justice and common sense.

  2. avatar William Burke says:

    The sun will shine a little brighter in Chicago (and elsewhere in the Land of Lincoln).

    YEE HAW!!!

  3. avatar Jake says:

    Did you mean vaffanculo?

    1. avatar Alex says:

      Yes…either that or Vai a fare in culo or vai a fartelo mettere or numerous other colorful Italian phrases…

  4. avatar Mike H says:


    OTOH .. the Illinois State Police has 180 days to publish the application form and after that they have 90 days to accept/reject an application. Best case scenario for we Illini is a CCW license 9 months from today.

    1. avatar Mike Crognale says:

      I believe that the State Police have already been instructed by the Governor to slow walk the entire process as much as possible. I predict that the first license will not be issued until at least one year or more from today.

      1. avatar Mike H says:

        Probably true … time to fire up the lawyers (again).

      2. avatar JeffR says:

        Not that I am holding my breath but there is talk that the Illinois State Police may be doing the exact opposite. John Boch, who I believe comments on this blog from time-to-time, has commented on other sites that the State Police do not want to be seen as obstructionist and may make the applications available sooner than required. But, again, not holding my breath.

  5. avatar Accur81 says:

    Now, if CA could follow suit with “shall issue” concealed carry, that would really be something. I can’t imagine gangbangers in Engelwood want any concealed carry other than gangster style. Good for IL.

    1. avatar S.CROCK says:

      Kern county ca is one of the most gun friendly places I know of. They are shall issue.

      1. avatar Mark N. says:

        Among others. Sacramento, Shasta, Trinity, Butte, Tehama, Eldorado, and Fresno are all “virtual” shall issue, or more properly, counties where “self-defense” is sufficient “good cause” for issuance. I think Del Norte is also, but Humboldt is a bit more restrictive. I am sure there are others as well in the Central Valley; the problem is mostly the coast from Mendocino, south to Mexico.

        1. avatar Al Cohol says:

          Stanislaus and Tuolumne counties are pretty close to Shall Issue as well.

  6. avatar Clay W says:

    Happy for my home state. All my family is still in Illini Country even though I’m a buckeye now. Here’s to hoping they will honor my Ohio CCW someday. I know…baby steps.

  7. avatar Daniel Silverman says:

    Does the state preemption stand?
    There were some places like oh Chicago which passed last second AWB garbage.

    1. avatar drewtam says:

      Total preemption only for pistols. Any rifle regulation up to 10 days from today is considered “grandfathered” in.

    2. avatar Dave357 says:

      As far as I know: (a) pre-emption for handguns stands, (b) the existing local AWB’s as well as any that get passed in the next 10 days will stand, but no new AWB’s can be passed after that.

    3. avatar lkli47 says:

      Preemption on handguns, handgun magazines, and handgun accessories remain; home-rule municipalities have another 10 days to pass assault weapons bans or other restrictions on firearms not covered by the concealed carry law.

      Though it will likely have to be hashed out in court, Illinois residents in municipalities such as Chicago may face a scenario where an AR pistol w/ a 30 round magazine is legal, but an AR rifle the same would be illegal

  8. avatar Dave357 says:

    Illinois is not simply joining the rest of the nation, it’s ahead of a number of other States now by becoming a “shall issue” State, if they can keep it.

  9. avatar Daniel Raidt says:

    The will of the Sane people of Illinois has been heard !

  10. avatar Steve O says:

    It’s about damned time. Does anyone know if they will honor any other States permits? Curious about the reciprocity….if any.

    1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

      other state carriers can CCW in their cars while driving thru the People’s Republik or even leave them loaded in their car (ie, in a glove box or arm rest). YOU CANNOT CARRY CONCEALED ON ANY OTHER STATE PERMIT OUTSIDE THE VEHICLE (other than to immediately place the weapon in the trunk). To CCW in IL will require an IL permit, 16 hrs, and $300. the only good thing is I can now drive to Michigan from STL without having to unload at the bridge.

      1. avatar Steve O says:

        Exactly what I wanted to know, the only time I am forced to pass through Illinois is while driving to Missouri to see friends and family.

      2. avatar uncommon_sense says:

        But exactly when does the law become effective? In other words when can non-residents (who have concealed carry licenses) carry their loaded handguns in their cars while driving through Illinois without threat of arrest?

        1. avatar drewtam says:

          It is effective immediately. Now. Today. “Upon adoption”.

        2. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

          yes – effective right now.

        3. avatar uncommon_sense says:

          effective today for non-residents — excellent!

          Thank you gentlemen.

        4. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

          check out and they have a break down of the bill .. . . . .

        5. avatar Brock says:

          I live in NWI and the only reason I go into IL is to pick people up from Midway. This is great freaking news.

  11. avatar scott says:

    Sadly, no reciprocity.

  12. avatar Larry says:

    As a NY’er in a county that does not issue full carry unless you’re wealthy or well connected, I’m a little jealous of IL.

    1. avatar sota says:

      As a NJ’an who finds it fucking reprehensible that NJ is on any list that states it issues carry permits to anyone (re: it don’t unless you “know” someone. there is no “just cause” that’ll ever get you one.) I’m very jealous.

    2. avatar Gtfoxy says:

      Good to see the original state of libertyless making it so only Rich and privelidged have constitutional rights, as it should be. [Sarc]

  13. avatar scott says:

    Plus, knowing the workings of my state, I am not holding my breath, waiting for a permit. Hopefully by 2015…

  14. avatar Aharon says:

    Rumor has it that right now the White House’s official servants, led by Uncle Joe, are seated in the Beer Garden angrily drinking beers that have gone flat and snarfing down stale pretzels. And it’s only Tuesday.

    1. avatar pk in AZ says:


  15. avatar niceguns says:

    Hey everyone, the Illinois Democrats are rejoicing right now. Let us never forget that this is all political posturing, we need to stay focused and remember, “DEMOCRATS MUST ALL BE ELIMINATED FROM OFFICE”


    1. avatar kneelie says:

      Eliminate both the Democrats and the Republicans,
      then I can rejoice.

      1. avatar Sheeples college says:

        All republicans? How about Ted Cruz? Him to?
        At least I can say that we don’t have to pick and choose Democrats they are all female pansies

  16. avatar A.J. says:

    Wow maybe I wont have to move out of IL!? Well it took me 60 days to get a FOID so not holding my breath. Now lets move on to the 100 BILLLLLION in pension debt. k

    1. avatar chuckb says:

      When I applied for my FOID in 2009 people were saying that it could take up to six months to get it. I received mine in 10 days.
      A bigger concern for me is the privacy of this info. Madigan tried to force the state police to release the names and addresses of FOID holders to the press. She failed on that one. But I don’t think I’d want to have my name in a CCW list when she (or the next one) succeeds.

  17. avatar jwm says:

    Hell has apparently frozen over. The grabbers are not a bright bunch. They pushed the 68 GCA and the push back on that brought shall issue to nearly the whole country. They pushed on AWBs and now scarey black rifles are a hot selling item. They keep pushing and we may wind up with constitutional carry nationwide.

    They just don’t get it. They push, we get energized and push back 4x as hard. Thank God for gun lovers that the opposition is composed of people like double biden joe, barry, mikeybnumbers and hmmmmmmmm. No talent at all.

  18. avatar AznMike says:

    Nice! Once I eventually get my WI ccw license, I can save up and get one for Ill. Do I need a FOID card or anything or can I just sign up for a class after I move to Chicago. Only considering Chicago since they have a lot of really good arch firms down there and it’s still close to home.

  19. avatar FirearmSafe says:

    Don’t forget about Maryland as one of those tyrannical states. And we can’t even ask for a recall…

  20. avatar todd says:

    I am a current ccw holder in the state of Michigan I travel to Illinois quite a bit for work and personal. With concealed carry effective immediately, can I now carry concealed in Illinois today without threat of arrest?

    1. avatar Mike H says:

      No. You can apply for a non resident CCW.

      1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

        you can carry concealed in your car on a non-resident permit only. step out and there is a problem. it is silly.

    2. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

      out of state permits are good to go to carry loaded in the car only. check out – they have a breakdown of the new law.

      1. avatar PeterZ in West Tennessee says:

        If they do it is buried deep. There is no obvious link to it on that page.

    3. avatar CentralIL says:

      I believe you can now carry in your vehicle but not outside of it. (Which IL residents will not be able to do until permits are issued.)

      There is no reciprocity. As the law stands now, you will need to get an IL permit to carry here.

  21. avatar Gtfoxy says:

    Honestly I was Hoping they would have drug their feet and Constitutional carry been in-place. Then, as people wised up, the non gang-to-gang related shootings begin to fizzle.

  22. avatar KCK says:

    I post this every time for people to compare
    From State 49 Wisconsin
    Governor signs bill June 8, 2011
    146 days later, Nov 1, 2011
    Permit #1 issued to our Attorney General.
    $50 now reduced to $43
    What a difference a line of latitude makes.
    About 365 days and 250 dollars

    1. avatar KCK says:

      $150 for in state
      $300 for me if I wanted one.

  23. avatar A says:

    I am sure we are all aware but every chicago gang murder from this day forward will be squarely placed on the shoulders of this bill.

    1. avatar Avid Reader says:

      They tend to conveniently forget that the gang shootings are generally by people who a) probably didn’t get their heater legally and b) probably don’t have a FOID card. . .

      1. avatar Dirk Diggler says:

        one of the actual arguments made from the floor of the senate was gang bangers would use new initiates who didn’t have records to get ccw’s to then carry legally. Of course, this ignores the significant anti-gang association legislation in IL that makes being around gang bangers a potential disqualifier. . . . . SMH at the people who get elected

  24. avatar RKflorida says:

    Homicides will definitely go up for awhile and the liberals will go nuts with “I Told You So”. However, that will only be for awhile as the trash is taken out. Once some of the trash is removed, the rate will drop dramatically.

  25. avatar BigTex says:

    Y’all underestimate Louisiana. Crooked as a dog’s hind leg.

  26. avatar Chuck in IL says:

    Get away from C(r)ook county and IL isn’t very corrupt. Not like NJ or LA were corruption exists in every precinct.
    Kudos to Rep Phelps (D, yes D), Todd Vandermyde and the countless folks who made this happen, including you and me!

  27. avatar kneelie says:

    This should demonstrate that CCW reduces crime. It is going to be a great next couple of years for IL

  28. avatar Goochy777 says:

    This was a long time coming, thanks to all those who made this possible, can’t wait to see what governor Quinn is going to carry…… lol, what fools…..

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